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Future has more hits than Nas

thismybgolname said:
Mask Off
Low Life
Stick talk
Where ya at
Turn on the lights
You da baddest
Fuck up some commas
Jump man
March Madness
Honest
Feds did a sweep
Blow a bag
Rich sex
Blood on the money
Digital dash
Itchin

List goes on and on.

He has way more content than Nas for this to even be up for discussion.

Either way Nas is losing the argument.
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Slow down, bruh. :smh:
You might wanna re-think the red part. :dunno::rolleyes:

TimRock said:
The World is Yours
One Love
Life's a bitch
It ain't hard to tell
Street dreams
Affirmative action


What are Future's?

And let's not forget Nas was the only non Wu member on OB4CL, classic album and the song was great.
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Assist. Salute.

Here's a few more Nas joints to add to your list....

Nas Is Like
N.Y. State of Mind
It Ain't Hard to Tell
Made You Look
Lifes a Bitch
The World Is Yours
One Love
Rewind
The Message
Ether
If I Ruled the World (with Lauryn Hill)
One Mic
Get Down
I Gave You Power
Doo Rags
Last Real Nigga Alive
Take It in Blood
Blaze a 50
Hate Me Now (with Puff Daddy)
Represent
Nasty
Deja Vu
Queens Get the Money
Black President
Surviving the Times
You Wouldn't Understand
Got Ur Self A Gun
I Can
Bridging the Gap
Halftime
Daughters
Shootouts
Thief's Theme
You’re Da Man
Memory Lane
Bye Baby
Less Than An Hour (Theme From Rush Hour 3)
Street Dreams (Remix with R. Kelly)
Grand Finale (with DMX)
Letter to the King (with The Game)
We Major (with Kanye West)
Don’t Get Carried Away (with Busta Rhymes)
Triple Beam Dreams (with Rick Ross)
Wrote My Way Out (with Lin-Manuel Miranda)
Classic (with DJ Premier, Rakim, Kanye West)
It’s Mine (with Mobb Deep)
Success (with Jay-Z)
Nas Album Done (with DK Khaled)
Da Bridge 2001 (with Marley Marl)
Carter IV Outro (with Lil Wayne)
In Between Us (with Scarface)
Let Nas Down (Remix with J. Cole)
Calm Down (with Tragedy Khadafi)
How Ya Livin’ (with AZ)
Rich and Black (with Raekwon)
Thugz Mansion (with Tupac, J. Phoenix)
Back To the Grill (with MC Serch)
Eye for a Eye (with Mobb Deep)
John Blaze (with Fat Joe, Big Pun, Jadakiss & Raekwon)
Mo Money, Mo Murder (with AZ)
Fast Life (with Kool G Rap)
Verbal Intercourse (with Raekwon)
Live At the Barbeque (with Main Source)
Cherry Wine (with Amy Winehouse)
Fried Chicken (with Busta Rhymes)
Accident Murderers (with Rick Ross)
As We Enter (with Damian Marley)
Black Republican (with Jay-Z)
Hero (with Keri Hilson)
Hip Hop is Dead (with Will.I.AM)
Patience (with Damian Marley)
Executive Decision (with The Firm)
Phone Tap (with The Firm)
Affirmative Action (with The Firm)


Nas also dropped 7 consecutive Platinum albums :yes:

Illmatic (1994)
It Was Written (1996)
I Am… (1999)
Nastradamus (1999)
Stillmatic (2001)
God’s Son (2002)
Street’s Disciple (2004)
 
That's like saying Karl Malone is better than Jordan cause he has more career points. Whoever would listen or agree with a corny half kracka about the culture is suspect. And his current album might be one of Nas' best.
 
grownazzblakman said:
Slow down, bruh. :smh:
You might wanna re-think this. :rolleyes:



Assist. Salute.

Here's a few joints to add to your list....

Nas Is Like
N.Y. State of Mind
It Ain't Hard to Tell
Made You Look
Lifes a Bitch
The World Is Yours
One Love
Rewind
The Message
Ether
If I Ruled the World (with Lauryn Hill)
One Mic
Get Down
I Gave You Power
Doo Rags
Last Real Nigga Alive
Take It in Blood
Blaze a 50
Hate Me Now (with Puff Daddy)
Represent
Nasty
Deja Vu
Queens Get the Money
Black President
Surviving the Times
You Wouldn't Understand
Got Ur Self A Gun
I Can
Bridging the Gap
Halftime
Daughters
Shootouts
Thief's Theme
You’re Da Man
Memory Lane
Bye Baby
Less Than An Hour (Theme From Rush Hour 3)
Street Dreams (Remix with R. Kelly)
Grand Finale (with DMX)
Letter to the King (with The Game)
We Major (with Kanye West)
Don’t Get Carried Away (with Busta Rhymes)
Triple Beam Dreams (with Rick Ross)
Wrote My Way Out (with Lin-Manuel Miranda)
Classic (with DJ Premier, Rakim, Kanye West)
It’s Mine (with Mobb Deep)
Success (with Jay-Z)
Nas Album Done (with DK Khaled)
Da Bridge 2001 (with Marley Marl)
Carter IV Outro (with Lil Wayne)
In Between Us (with Scarface)
Let Nas Down (Remix with J. Cole)
Calm Down (with Tragedy Khadafi)
How Ya Livin’ (with AZ)
Rich and Black (with Raekwon)
Thugz Mansion (with Tupac, J. Phoenix)
Back To the Grill (with MC Serch)
Eye for a Eye (with Mobb Deep)
John Blaze (with Fat Joe, Big Pun, Jadakiss & Raekwon)
Mo Money, Mo Murder (with AZ)
Fast Life (with Kool G Rap)
Verbal Intercourse (with Raekwon)
Live At the Barbeque (with Main Source)
Cherry Wine (with Amy Winehouse)
Fried Chicken (with Busta Rhymes)
Accident Murderers (with Rick Ross)
As We Enter (with Damian Marley)
Black Republican (with Jay-Z)
Hero (with Keri Hilson)
Hip Hop is Dead (with Will.I.AM)
Patience (with Damian Marley)
Executive Decision (with The Firm)
Phone Tap (with The Firm)
Affirmative Action (with The Firm)


Nas also dropped 7x consecutive Platinum albums :yes:

Illmatic (1994)
It Was Written (1996)
I Am… (1999)
Nastradamus (1999)
Stillmatic (2001)
God’s Son (2002)
Street’s Disciple (2004)
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Hell of a list but I don't recall the majority of those being hits.
 
thismybgolname said:
Hell of a list but I don't recall the majority of those being hits.
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Well, that depends on what your definition of a 'hit' is based on. :dunno:

- Radio Spins? Sales? Replay Value?
- Popularity when it first came out? Remixes by other Artists?
- Billboard Hot 100 Position? Billboard Hot 100 Longevity? A Classic Track? Live Performances? Tours?
- Views on YouTube? Streaming Services that were not available back in the 1990's?
- Social Media "sharing" stats that were not available back in the 1990's?
- MTV popularity? BET popularity? Various Music Countdown Show Position?
- Singles that get added into an Artist's "Greatest Hits" Compilation?
- Popularity Overseas / or International sales numbers?

Are you only judging hits by (first month) Sales numbers alone... in the USA only... just in a specific region? :dunno:
Or do you include a whole year's worth of sales ? :dunno:
Or sales that span across several years later? :dunno:
If it is ONLY a hit in the South... but not on the West Coast... does that make it a hit record? or Nah? :dunno:
How many Sales does it take.... to make it a hit? :dunno: And 'where' do those sales have to be? Only in America? Do international sales count? or Nah? :dunno:
 
ViCiouS said:
:clown
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I forgot the NY fitted is a must with the durag and timbs.

"Ayo son you heard that new Nas" - Said no one outside of NY and surrounding areas.




grownazzblakman said:
Well, that depends on what your definition of a 'hit' is based on. :dunno:

- Radio Spins? Sales? Replay Value?
- Popularity when it first came out? Remixes by other Artists?
- Billboard Hot 100 Position? Billboard Hot 100 Longevity? A Classic Track? Live Performances? Tours?
- Views on YouTube? Streaming Services that were not available back in the 1990's?
- Social Media "sharing" stats that were not available back in the 1990's?
- MTV popularity? BET popularity? Various Music Countdown Show Position?
- Singles that get added into an Artist's "Greatest Hits" Compilation?
- Popularity Overseas / or International sales numbers?

Are you only judging hits by (first month) Sales numbers alone... in the USA only... just in a specific region? :dunno:
Or do you include a whole year's worth of sales ? :dunno:
Or sales that span across several years later? :dunno:
If it is ONLY a hit in the South... but not on the West Coast... does that make it a hit record? or Nah? :dunno:
How many Sales does it take.... to make it a hit? :dunno: And 'where' do those sales have to be? Only in America? Do international sales count? or Nah? :dunno:
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Good question because all of this is subjective since there is no real cut definition of what makes a hit.

I'd say replay value and radio spins but even that is skewed because of technology.

I would've included sales but we've moved away from album sales the past generation so that would be skewed towards older artists.

A hit to me is a song that is played nationwide on repeat, on every urban or hip hop station.

There have been multiple years where Future songs were being played back to back.

Switch from one station and hear the tail end or the start of another Future song.

Nas has never had a run where he had songs being played on multiple radio stations at the same time.

Go to a party and turn on Nas, shit is going to empty out besides a few New Yorkers getting hype off a few songs.

Go to a party and turn Future on, shit is a party.
 
thismybgolname said:
There have been multiple years where Future songs were being played back to back.

Switch from one station and hear the tail end or the start of another Future song.

Nas has never had a run where he had songs being played on multiple radio stations at the same time.

Go to a party and turn on Nas, shit is going to empty out besides a few New Yorkers getting hype off a few songs.

Go to a party and turn Future on, shit is a party.
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Yo, I hear ya. :yes:

Because in the mid-90's. when Dr. Dre was one of THE HOTTEST producers in Hip-Hop... Nas was a part of 'The Firm" signed to Dr. Dre's label Aftermath Records.... so we all know they never played any of Dr. Dre's beats on Multiple Radio Stations around the entire USA. :smh:

You dead right about that.

Because despite all his success and starting his own record label.... Dr. Dre NEVER got no "radio burn".... outside of Compton. :rolleyes:
And definitely NEVER on the East Coast. :dunno:

Dre produced their WHOLE ALBUM. So you know it was 'mad local'. And never got played on MULTIPLE radio stations. :rolleyes:



Sshhheeeiiiitt.... You know your stuff.

Because there's absolutely NO WAY that Nas could ever spit on a Dr. Dre Track.... with B-REAL of Cypress Hill.... and KRS-ONE.... and it could get played on both the West Coast AND the East Coast radio stations at the same time. :smh: That's crazy. That could never happen. :hmm: Because like I said earlier... NOBODY liked Dr. Dre's beats. :smh:



So it makes complete sense that when Nas dropped a track like "Got yourself a Gun".... which peaked at #2 on the Bilboard Top 100 Hip-Hop List.... that it rose that high simply because it was only played on ONE SINGLE radio station. Not Multiple.





Nah, he never had a point in his career when his music was heard on MANY different radio stations across the USA.

I hear ya, playa. :rolleyes: You called it. :yes:
 
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grownazzblakman said:
Yo, I hear ya. :yes:

Because in the mid-90's. when Dr. Dre was one of THE HOTTEST producers in Hip-Hop... Nas was a part of 'The Firm" signed to Dr. Dre's label Aftermath Records.... so we all know they never played any of Dr. Dre's beats on Multiple Radio Stations around the entire USA. :smh:

You dead right about that.

Because despite all his success and starting his own record label.... Dr. Dre NEVER got no "radio burn".... outside of Compton. :rolleyes:
And definitely NEVER on the East Coast. :dunno:

Dre produced their WHOLE ALBUM. So you know it was 'mad local'. And never got played on MULTIPLE radio stations. :rolleyes:



Sshhheeeiiiitt.... You know your stuff.

Because there's absolutely NO WAY that Nas could ever spit on a Dr. Dre Track.... with B-REAL of Cypress Hill.... and KRS-ONE.... and it could get played on both the West Coast AND the East Coast radio stations at the same time. :smh: That's crazy. That could never happen. :hmm: Because like I said earlier... NOBODY liked Dr. Dre's beats. :smh:



So it makes complete sense that when Nas dropped a track like "Got yourself a Gun".... which peaked at #2 on the Bilboard Top 100 Hip-Hop List.... that it rose that high simply because it was only played on ONE SINGLE radio station. Not Multiple.



Nah, he never had a point in his career when his music was heard on MANY different radio stations across the USA.

I hear ya, playa. :rolleyes: You called it. :yes:
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I don't ever recall hearing multiple songs with Nas being played at the same time.

I'm referring to you change from one radio station and you hear a Future song. Turn to another station and you're hearing the same song you just changed the station from. Turn to another station and you're hearing another Future song.


You bring up the top 100 hip hop list, I posted those links earlier in the thread.

Nas -
RANKED BY PERFORMANCE ON CHART

2 TOP 10 HITS 22 SONGS


Future -
RANKED BY PERFORMANCE ON CHART

2 TOP 10 HITS 89 SONGS
 
This is what happens when you value the beat over the lyrics. Saying that, I like Future. Sometimes I don’t know what he is talking about nonetheless I still dig Future.
 
thismybgolname said:
I don't ever recall hearing multiple songs with Nas being played at the same time.

I'm referring to you change from one radio station and you hear a Future song. Turn to another station and you're hearing the same song you just changed the station from. Turn to another station and you're hearing another Future song.


You bring up the top 100 hip hop list, I posted those links earlier in the thread.

Nas -
RANKED BY PERFORMANCE ON CHART

2 TOP 10 HITS 22 SONGS


Future -
RANKED BY PERFORMANCE ON CHART

2 TOP 10 HITS 89 SONGS
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#1 - First of all, the radio is VERY different now than it was back in the 1990s.
The Radio PLAYS THE SAME SHIT ALL DAY LONG, nowadays. :yes:

Today, they only play like 5 different artists.... Plus all the artists who SOUND JUST LIKE THEM.

There was much more DIVERSITY on the radio back in the 1990s.

For every Nas track, you had PLENTY of other groups like... De La Soul, Tribe Called Quest, Outkast, Bone Thugs, E-40, Scarface, Snoop Dogg, Wu-Tang, Jay-Z, Eminem, Ice Cube, Biggie, Souls of Mischief, Common, 2 Live Crew, Tupac, Trick Daddy, Master P, The Roots, Jazzy Jeff & The Fresh Prince, The Fugees, Public Enemy.... and all kinds of VARIOUS rap groups who got ALOT of radio airplay also.

Because Hip-hop was DIVERSE. :yes: You didn't hear 10 songs IN A ROW that ALL sound alike, like they do nowadays. :hmm:

Today, they only play like 5 different artists on the radio.... Plus every rapper who SOUNDS JUST LIKE THEM.
If they play a Future track on the radio... they follow it up with....
  • Desiinger.
  • 2 Chainz.
  • Gucci Mane.
  • Juicy J.
  • Migos.
  • Young Thug.
  • 6LACK.
  • Chief Keef.
  • Lil Uzi Vert.
  • Plus DOZENS of others who sound just like him. :hmm:
#2 - Second of all... Isn't Future a PRODUCER? Doesn't he make beats also? :hmm:

So all the songs you are constantly hearing back to back.... are songs he either raps on.. or a beat he made for somebody else, correct? :hmm:
Which proves what I just wrote. Read #1 again.

Nas doesn't make beats. :smh: And he STILL managed to get significant airplay, compared to Future.

Knock it off. :hmm:

You should compare Future's HITS to people like Kanye West, or Dr. Dre.... since they all rap & make beats for OTHER artists. :yes: That's a more level playing field.
 
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grownazzblakman said:
#1 - First of all, the radio is VERY different now than it was back in the 1990s.
The Radio PLAYS THE SAME SHIT ALL DAY LONG, nowadays. :yes:

Today, they only play like 5 different artists.... Plus all the artists who SOUND JUST LIKE THEM.

There was much more DIVERSITY on the radio back in the 1990s.

For every Nas track, you had PLENTY of other groups like... De La Soul, Tribe Called Quest, Outkast, Bone Thugs, E-40, Scarface, Wu-Tang, Jay-Z, Eminem, Ice Cube, Souls of Mischief, Common, 2 Live Crew, Trick Daddy, Master P, Public Enemy.... and kinds of other rappers who got ALOT of radio airplay also.

Because Hip-hop was DIVERSE. :yes: You didn't hear 10 songs IN A ROW that ALL sound alike, like they do nowadays.
:hmm:




Today, they only play like 5 different artists on the radio.... Plus every rapper who SOUNDS JUST LIKE THEM.
If they play a Future track on the radio... they follow it up with....
  • Desiinger.
  • 2 Chainz.
  • Gucci Mane.
  • Juicy J.
  • Migos.
  • Young Thug.
  • 6LACK.
  • Chief Keef.
  • Lil Uzi Vert.
  • Plus DOZENS of others who sound just like him. :hmm:
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Not doing to disagree with that.

With that being said, having your song being played on the radio nonstop, brain washing folks, makes songs into hits.

Future has had the benefit of new age media.


grownazzblakman said:
#2 - Second of all... Isn't Future a PRODUCER? Doesn't he make beats also? :hmm:

So all the songs you are constantly hearing back to back.... are songs he either raps on.. or a beat he made for somebody else, correct? :hmm:
Which proves what I just wrote. Read #1 again.

Future doesn't make beats or produce.


Nas doesn't make beats. :smh: And he STILL managed to get significant airplay, compared to Future.

Knock it off. :hmm:

You should compare Future's HITS to people like Kanye West, or Dr. Dre.... since they all rap & make beats for OTHER artists. :yes: That's a more level playing field.
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Future doesn't make beats or produce.
 
thismybgolname said:
Future doesn't make beats or produce.
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You sure about that? :hmm:

Future
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Future_(rapper)

Nayvadius DeMun Wilburn (born November 20, 1983), known professionally as Future, is an American rapper, singer, songwriter, and record producer. Born and raised in Atlanta, Georgia, Wilburn first became involved in music as part of the Dungeon Family collective, where he was nicknamed "the Future".


Kanye West
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kanye_West

Kanye Omari West (born June 8, 1977) is an American rapper, singer, songwriter, record producer, entrepreneur, and fashion designer.


Nas
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nas_(rapper)

Nasir bin Olu Dara Jones (born September 14, 1973), known professionally as Nas (/nɑːz/), is an American rapper, songwriter, entrepreneur and investor.
 
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“Hit” album is a loaded term. Are we saying an album is successful because of sales? We’ve been over this being a terrible argument because Hammer and Vanilla Ice technically are in possession of two of the “hottest” albums ever. I’m a huge Nas fan and I will be quick to admit some albums are fire, some ehhh, and some I don’t like at all. The target demographic is completely different, and that’s all there’s to it. Future ain’t the go-to guy for lyrical content. Nothing wrong with that. Before anyone attempts to say that Nas has some lyrical duds...sure. But take two of his “b-sides” like “Purple” and “Live Nigga Rap” and those two tracks kill anything on Future’s catalogue.
 
grownazzblakman said:
You sure about that? :hmm:

Future
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Future_(rapper)

Nayvadius DeMun Wilburn (born November 20, 1983), known professionally as Future, is an American rapper, singer, songwriter, and record producer. Born and raised in Atlanta, Georgia, Wilburn first became involved in music as part of the Dungeon Family collective, where he was nicknamed "the Future".


Kanye West
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kanye_West

Kanye Omari West (born June 8, 1977) is an American rapper, singer, songwriter, record producer, entrepreneur, and fashion designer.


Nas
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nas_(rapper)

Nasir bin Olu Dara Jones (born September 14, 1973), known professionally as Nas (/nɑːz/), is an American rapper, songwriter, entrepreneur and investor.
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I don't believe your wiki source is accurate.

I've never heard of Future making beats or producing until you made your post.

This nigga ain't no producer.

2004[edit]
Ludacris - The Red Light District
2011[edit]
Future – Pluto 3D
  • 01. "The Future Is Now"
2013[edit]
Rihanna - Unapologetic
Ciara - Ciara
French Montana - Excuse My French
  • 04. "Paranoid" (written only)
2014[edit]
Keyshia Cole – Point of No Return
  • 08. "New Nu" (written and vocal produced)
2017[edit]
Meek Mill - Wins & Losses
  • 07. "We Ball" (produced with Wheezy)
 
EchoCrash said:
“Hit” album is a loaded term. Are we saying an album is successful because of sales? We’ve been over this being a terrible argument because Hammer and Vanilla Ice technically are in possession of two of the “hottest” albums ever. I’m a huge Nas fan and I will be quick to admit some albums are fire, some ehhh, and some I don’t like at all. The target demographic is completely different, and that’s all there’s to it. Future ain’t the go-to guy for lyrical content. Nothing wrong with that. Before anyone attempts to say that Nas has some lyrical duds...sure. But take two of his “b-sides” like “Purple” and “Live Nigga Rap” and those two tracks kill anything on Future’s catalogue.
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This. And quiet was kept, and I fuck with Future, but when he can visualize a track and a moment or a series of moments the way Nas has done in songs like “I Gave You Power” or “Blaze A 50”, Future gets in the same ballpark.

In fairness, Future has made some dope ass music for this current generation of hip hop but I don’t know that his music will be generational. 20 years from now folks with still talking about Nas; can’t say I think they’ll be talking about Future.
 
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