Central Heating & Air Unit $$$$$$$$$$ & more in 2020

Make sure you post y'all denied claims stories from Choice and American Home Shield .....they will fix some little shyt but believe me they aint about to replace no 10 year furnace or a/c unit with a brand new unit cause you been paying them monthly .......pure rip off artist

U got dam right....brah
 
This. I'm reading how cats getting fucked with no vaseline paying $5000 to $6000 for hvacs smh.

I got 4 properties and I've replaced hvacs in all of them. The most I ever paid was $3400 including labor. And honestly I could have got that job done under $3k if I wasn't in a rush to get it done.

Imma brang em til the light...brah
 
Is it gas or electric? They bullshittin u..I charge a flat rate of 275.00 for hot water heater install only...the only code change is the pan and TP valve have to be separate drains...not on same 3/4 inch line...brah...it only takes 1 hour after u drain the bitch to install...Draining might take 45 mins...I usually hook up a garden hose and run it down the driveway and haul ass for them 45 mins drain time...brah
Thanks man...I figured as much.
It's a 40 gal short gas water heater.
It's in the garage on a stand and the exhaust bends right into the exterior wall to the outside.
The first dude was like, we can get rid of the stand and get you the tall one. But we gotta install an expansion tank. They gave me a total of over 2800.
The second plumber was like, they don't sell the short ones anymore but the stand is mandatory to meet code. A tall is too tall for our garage on top of the stand so to adjust the exhaust pipe and add the tank, it will still run over $3000. Then he tried to sell me on a tankless for over 5k.
I'm like...come on man...

Granted I've seen shorts in big box stores for around 5 or 600.

I'm gonna call some indenpendent plumbers in a few. I would do it myself but the way this one, the exhaust pipe seems too big and they have it fit all the way down over the exhaust on the tank. Granted, this has worked fine for almost 20 years but not sure if I would be able to do the same with a new tank.
 
Did mine the same way.... had to put like $1000 down and then the rest over the course of the next year added on to my gas bill. As soon as that was paid off this past spring, I did the same thing for my water heater. Can't wait til that year is up too so I can be done with the extra $$$ on the bill.



So mine went out a few years ago had it replaced through the program at my utility company basically adding the cost of it to my bill over time in monthly installments. Anyone within a month or two something went wrong with it simple repair nothing major. Don’t you know after that they never charged me for it
 
Make sure you post y'all denied claims stories from Choice and American Home Shield .....they will fix some little shyt but believe me they aint about to replace no 10 year furnace or a/c unit with a brand new unit cause you been paying them monthly .......pure rip off artist

Them nukkas ain't gon come back and tell you that, bleethat .....
 
I had been thinking about getting an AHS warranty a few years back, knowing that my furnace,Central Air and Water heater were all approaching 18 years, but never went through with it. Glad I didn't if they're shady.
My sister has a home warranty (I think AHS but not sure) though, and although she hasn't had to do those items yet, she did have an issue where lots of pipes in her house sprung leaks... water coming through the ceiling/walls, etc. Turns out the builder that build her development 30 years ago used bad materials. Anyway, her warranty program has so far worked with her on the cost of getting them replaced. They paid for the plumbing portion (but not for the carpentry and painters to make everything like new after the walls had to be ripped open).


Make sure you post y'all denied claims stories from Choice and American Home Shield .....they will fix some little shyt but believe me they aint about to replace no 10 year furnace or a/c unit with a brand new unit cause you been paying them monthly .......pure rip off artist
 
Thanks man...I figured as much.
It's a 40 gal short gas water heater.
It's in the garage on a stand and the exhaust bends right into the exterior wall to the outside.
The first dude was like, we can get rid of the stand and get you the tall one. But we gotta install an expansion tank. They gave me a total of over 2800.
The second plumber was like, they don't sell the short ones anymore but the stand is mandatory to meet code. A tall is too tall for our garage on top of the stand so to adjust the exhaust pipe and add the tank, it will still run over $3000. Then he tried to sell me on a tankless for over 5k.
I'm like...come on man...

Granted I've seen shorts in big box stores for around 5 or 600.

I'm gonna call some indenpendent plumbers in a few. I would do it myself but the way this one, the exhaust pipe seems too big and they have it fit all the way down over the exhaust on the tank. Granted, this has worked fine for almost 20 years but not sure if I would be able to do the same with a new tank.

U can reduce and extend the gas flue pipes..dont let em fuck u...ride around to new Construction sites or your local lowes or home depot..hang around the plumbing isle for 30 minutes...meet u a plumber..you will know he the truth if he dirty...or got coveralls on...get his number...brah
 
My HVAC died on me about a month and a half ago. I was told the compressor was failing so while it will still run, it's not getting the proper pressure needed to properly cool my home. Of course the warranty expired a year ago so I was SOL. I decided to get a home warranty service which kicked in last week Monday. I'm now debating whether it's too soon to call in a service request to have them look at my HVAC to repair it or if I should try to ride it out a little bit longer so it doesn't look suspicious. I purchased a portable ac unit to keep in my home office in the meantime.
 
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My HVAC died on me about a month and a half ago. I was told the condenser was failing so while it will still run, it's not getting the proper pressure needed to properly cool my home. Of course the warranty expired a year ago so I was SOL. I decided to get a home warranty service which kicked in last week Monday. I'm now debating whether it's too soon to call in a service request to have them look at my HVAC to repair it or if I should try to ride it out a little bit longer so it doesn't look suspicious. I purchased a portable ac unit to keep in my home office in the meantime.
if you can wait, I would wait until about mid-august. Although, with the home warranties I don't think they are quite like insurance where you will be penalized for using it. The bigger issue is if there is a cutoff amount as to how much they will spend for repairs on a particular item.
 
if you can wait, I would wait until about mid-august. Although, with the home warranties I don't think they are quite like insurance where you will be penalized for using it. The bigger issue is if there is a cutoff amount as to how much they will spend for repairs on a particular item.
Yeah I'm hoping that won't be the case for me getting my HVAC fixed
 
This right here will save you a lot of headaches, use this when spring starts and again in the Fall. Depends on your system stay on top of changing your in home filter. Those with a Split System which is AC unit outside and Heating inside usually in the attic, most people never check the attic unit cause spiders, mice, birds and sometimes bats will fuck that unit up(one small hole can cost you major$$$$$) Alot of HVAC techs are scam artist they will break out the gauges and R-22(depending on your system) only to break out the $7 coil cleaner but charge you $100 to $1000. Stay on top of warranties here is a good site that explains a lot. https://www.pickhvac.com/hvac-warranty-guide/
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My HVAC died on me about a month and a half ago. I was told the compressor was failing so while it will still run, it's not getting the proper pressure needed to properly cool my home. Of course the warranty expired a year ago so I was SOL. I decided to get a home warranty service which kicked in last week Monday. I'm now debating whether it's too soon to call in a service request to have them look at my HVAC to repair it or if I should try to ride it out a little bit longer so it doesn't look suspicious. I purchased a portable ac unit to keep in my home office in the meantime.

They lyin brah.. compressor either run or it don't..check your capacitor on the outside unit...if your compressor ain't making a loud humming noise or kicking breaker...fuck them...change the capacitor first.. brah
 
They lyin brah.. compressor either run or it don't..check your capacitor on the outside unit...if your compressor ain't making a loud humming noise or kicking breaker...fuck them...change the capacitor first.. brah
What tipped me off that something was wrong was when I came home & heard a loud grinding sound like metal on metal. When the tech came he didn't think it was the compressor either & tried the capacitor but that didn't do it. Then when he checked the pressure it was well off from where it should be which lead him to believe it was the compressor starting to fail. I didn't purchase anything from the hvac tech & his company never called me back to givee any options so I was like fuck em & went the rout route of getting a home warranty. Ironically I haven't heard the grinding noise since.
 
What tipped me off that something was wrong was when I came home & heard a loud grinding sound like metal on metal. When the tech came he didn't think it was the compressor either & tried the capacitor but that didn't do it. Then when he checked the pressure it was well off from where it should be which lead him to believe it was the compressor starting to fail. I didn't purchase anything from the hvac tech & his company never called me back to givee any options so I was like fuck em & went the rout route of getting a home warranty. Ironically I haven't heard the grinding noise since.

Compressor gone.. brah...I suggest find a maintenance man at a local apartment complex...and finnesse him.. brah
 
This. I'm reading how cats getting fucked with no vaseline paying $5000 to $6000 for hvacs smh.

I got 4 properties and I've replaced hvacs in all of them. The most I ever paid was $3400 including labor. And honestly I could have got that job done under $3k if I wasn't in a rush to get it done.

What market do you live in?
What components were you replacing?
What brand are you using?
What refrigerant system are you using?
What’s the SEER value you’re replacing it with?
How many tons is the system?

This all plays a factor in what your total cost will be?

If you live in a low cost state and slapping in a 1-ton Goodman heatpump using the existing lineset and pump pad, and some marginal no name air handler. Yep, $3500 is about right.
 
That's why he paid far too much. A five ton unit is WAYYY too big for a 1600 sq. ft. house under any conditions! Closer to 3 tons would be about right for his house.
The more tonage, the more efficient the heating and cooling...saves money in long run
 
Drain pan lines, and the other one that drips, ive had algae buildup in that hoe. Dry one gets bugs and shit

Easily solved. Mix about a quart of water bleach solution 3 parts water / 1 part bleach.

About once every 2 weeks slowly pour a 1/2 cup down the line. Increase or decrease frequency depending on how humid your environment is.

Keep the jug in your mechanical closet.

My lines have largely been spotless using this method and I’ve never had a condensate line back up.
 
What market do you live in?
What components were you replacing?
What brand are you using?
What refrigerant system are you using?
What’s the SEER value you’re replacing it with?
How many tons is the system?

This all plays a factor in what your total cost will be?

If you live in a low cost state and slapping in a 1-ton Goodman heatpump using the existing lineset and pump pad, and some marginal no name air handler. Yep, $3500 is about right.

Shit...I'm a state licensed guy. I can do 3 ton Goodman inside and out for 3500..In 2 hours...I make 1200.00..brah
 
The more tonage, the more efficient the heating and cooling...saves money in long run
Nope.
Get a system tonnage sized appropriately for your home.
Going larger is only wasted energy and not more efficient.

Efficiency is derived from the size and number of coils in the loop (surface area), compressor size and variable speed fans.
 
What market do you live in?
What components were you replacing?
What brand are you using?
What refrigerant system are you using?
What’s the SEER value you’re replacing it with?
How many tons is the system?

This all plays a factor in what your total cost will be?

If you live in a low cost state and slapping in a 1-ton Goodman heatpump using the existing lineset and pump pad, and some marginal no name air handler. Yep, $3500 is about right.

They don't make a 1 ton..only 1.5 tons..brah
 
Shit...I'm a state licensed guy. I can do 3 ton Goodman inside and out for 3500..In 2 hours...I make 1200.00..brah
What state?
Again, there are differences in every state’s regulations on top of the Federal capture and disposal laws.

Goodman is like the Honda Civic of heatpumps.
Installers like to sell them to the uninitiated because the profit margins are pretty healthy for such a high volume unit.

Be we are the iniated, aren’t we Bruce?
 
The more tonage, the more efficient the heating and cooling...saves money in long run

Nope.
Get a system tonnage sized appropriately for your home.
Going larger is only wasted energy and not more efficient.

Efficiency is derived from the size and number of coils in the loop (surface area), compressor size and variable speed fans.

I always add a extra ton to all my homes I do..the unit lasts longer cause it cools and heats quicker... therefore saving money in the long run...100 degrees weather ain't no joke.. brah
 
What state?
Again, there are differences in every state’s regulations on top of the Federal capture and disposal laws.

Goodman is like the Honda Civic of heatpumps.
Installers like to sell them to the uninitiated because the profit margins are pretty healthy for such a high volume unit.

Be we are the iniated, aren’t we Bruce?

Mississippi...I like Goodman just because the parts are readily available late nights and Saturday...I can get they shit back up and running in no time..I also can get the Trane now. Brah
 
I always add a extra ton to all my homes I do..the unit lasts longer cause it cools and heats quicker... therefore saving money in the long run...100 degrees weather ain't no joke.. brah

It may heat and cool quicker, but it also uses more electricity (larger compressor) and more refrigerant.

But if you are running a time / value formula, and where you see yourself hitting the crossover point before the usable life of the unit is mechanically done, your upsizing strategy would work.
 
I caution again using straight bleach only because over time uncut bleach has been known to interact with certain pipe joints cements and slowly weaken them, leading to pinhole leaks.

I thank he using garden hose pipe...not PVC..brah
 
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