Adult children are costing many parents their retirement savings

Nothing wrong with staying home but you can’t be home and be on your ass.. gotta get out there and diversify them bonds.. If you can’t do that then as a parent don’t pay for shit.. however don’t kick them on the street either...
I don't have kids, but there are multiple ways of doing this shit.

I left home at eighteen, join the military and have been on my own ever since. My brother is two years younger than me oh, and it's still living with my mother at 40 years old. He's working, but he smokes most of his money away and still doesn't have a car (he and my mom share a car)

I agree that you can't just put your kid out. I also agree that you can't let them stay home and do nothing either.

I have a friend who lets her kids stay at home as long as they're in school. They pay her rent, lights and food. The money designated for rent she puts in an account that she will give to them when they're ready to move out.

She tells them that her home is not a motel. Do not be bringing your hoes or dudes (she has son and daughter) up in my house to fuck. There's no fucking in this house except by me. If the person you're fucking can't afford a room you probably shouldn't be fucking them.

In my opinion, that's good parenting
 
He's working, but he smokes most of his money away and still doesn't have a car (he and my mom share a car)

Dont get me started on how many pot head ass kids I deal with that smoke more than they work. I see so many damn kids falling the fuck off because they stay smoking all day and not showing up for shit...then cry about they can't pay their rent. Fool you smoked up all your rent
 
All I can say is my grown son has trouble balancing his needs and wants. This generation grew up with participation trophies and I told him his whole life that was some bullshit. They want the fabulous life they see in the media and don't care about the future. Sadly he's learning valuable lessons he should have learned earlier but women tend to enable kids, and when you have others in the family thinking they are helping by giving him handouts you're simply delaying the inevitable.

Grown men have scars. You learn from them, they're valuable. They give you strength. I can't imagine trying to compete in this world at 30 with a silver spoon in my mouth.
 
Making excuses? I teach these knuckleheads.

The problems a lot of these kids are facing is a lot deeper than what is on the surface.

And if you unwillingly to see or discuss underlying issues this generation is faced with, then all we are basically saying is "pull your bootstraps up."

I got students that don't even have computer in their home. So then what?
I got students that can't read well. So then what?
I got students that do not have basic critical thinking skills. So then what?
I got students that got the personality of a slug.
I got students that can't communicate well.
I got students that don't even have an email address.
I got students that come from abusive homes.
I got students that live in their car.
I got students that are traumatized (PTSD).
I got students that are former drug addicts.

Are these excuses? Granted, many overcome, but their problems are bigger than their inabilities to "pull their bootstraps up."

Selling candles online. I get that was an example, but that was a shitty example to make your point.



Honestly, I can't take this discussion with you serious anymore.

That's why you should discuss this with meee!!! :cheers:
 
You know what's worst than that? Telling your 22 year old he can go to school for FREE like I did because I already put in work and I'll either get him a car or help him get one but he has to go to school and/ or work. Or both. Ain't heard from that MF since. Told his ass you ain't hanging out in my house playing Xbox/PS4 (like me) thinking you retired too bruh. That ain't happening. I don't give a fuck if you is my seed nigga. Oh well

Damn I feel you on that.

I got a young son right now. A baby exactly. And I'm constantly thinking about the ways to raise him. I just dont want him to be a lazy ass or be a follower in where he can get involved with the wrong crowd.
 
Making excuses? I teach these knuckleheads.

The problems a lot of these kids are facing is a lot deeper than what is on the surface.

And if you unwillingly to see or discuss underlying issues this generation is faced with, then all we are basically saying is "pull your bootstraps up."

I got students that don't even have computer in their home. So then what?
I got students that can't read well. So then what?
I got students that do not have basic critical thinking skills. So then what?
I got students that got the personality of a slug.
I got students that can't communicate well.
I got students that don't even have an email address.
I got students that come from abusive homes.
I got students that live in their car.
I got students that are traumatized (PTSD).
I got students that are former drug addicts.

Are these excuses? Granted, many overcome, but their problems are bigger than their inabilities to "pull their bootstraps up."

Selling candles online. I get that was an example, but that was a shitty example to make your point.



Honestly, I can't take this discussion with you serious anymore.
Yeah these issues Millennials are facing are so unique....

Cuz no one had cars or ptsd or former drug addicts or illiterate. That all started in the year 2000.
 
Not unique, but a different time period.

You acting like shit is still the same when it isn’t.
it is a different time.
Yes. And it is easier.

You have dudes willing to give money away to women selling nudes on snap chat premium. You have these women that can find sugar daddy sites. You have people that are broke looking to rent a room in their house out to someone and you can also rent your house out to someone. Shit you can rent your house out to 5 people and split up the rent.
 
cbs tried to put a blackface on this with their racist propaganda... But if you read between the lines this is more of a cac thing... Bunch of xbox live cacs ordering uber eats borrowing their parents car bullshitting in college while staying in their parents basement or attic... We know cacs are lazy as shit..parents give them credit cards and cacs splurge for days leaving their parents with the bills...Johnny and his spoil brat sister becky juss drinking their Starbucks coffee every morning trying to find themselves in the world
I used to work with a degenerate, alcoholic white boy few years back. You described him damn near perfectly. In his 30's didn't have shit in his name, no bank account, nothing.
 
I’m glad I was born when I was born this new generation I don’t know how to break it to them but they better get their act together or else. That white privilege when it’s comes to jobs is getting weak
 
I don't have kids, but there are multiple ways of doing this shit.

I left home at eighteen, join the military and have been on my own ever since. My brother is two years younger than me oh, and it's still living with my mother at 40 years old. He's working, but he smokes most of his money away and still doesn't have a car (he and my mom share a car)

I agree that you can't just put your kid out. I also agree that you can't let them stay home and do nothing either.

I have a friend who lets her kids stay at home as long as they're in school. They pay her rent, lights and food. The money designated for rent she puts in an account that she will give to them when they're ready to move out.

She tells them that her home is not a motel. Do not be bringing your hoes or dudes (she has son and daughter) up in my house to fuck. There's no fucking in this house except by me. If the person you're fucking can't afford a room you probably shouldn't be fucking them.

In my opinion, that's good parenting

There are just entirely too many good reasons to implement a national service like this now...2 years of some type of national service, peace corps, Military...it's too easy..The israelis do it...i think it's required in China as well...
 
You know how many former military dudes I seen out on their ass? Don't get it twisted, its a good opportunity if you play it right.

Fam need to link up and get money together. Dude I know helped his sons buy a couple homes, put them in their name, and they all worked on it and flipped it. That's the type of shit I'm on.
 
Yes it was. Bruh, nothing is much more different than it was when I grew up. In fact these kids have more ways to make money with the internet now.

If kids are struggling to make it according to how it’s put in this thread, then it’s obvious something is different.

Obviously traditional upbringing that most of us are accustom to is no longer working the same way. So something is different.
 
Yes it was. Bruh, nothing is much more different than it was when I grew up. In fact these kids have more ways to make money with the internet now.
It costs more to live now, lets be real. Even my 68 year old mother says that shit all the time, so yes it is different. To your other point, there are lots of ways to get money now. I agree with that.
 
If kids are struggling to make it according to how it’s put in this thread, then it’s obvious something is different.

Obviously traditional upbringing that most of us are accustom to is no longer working the same way. So something is different.
Social media and phones/ devices
 
I blame both. Yes there's an unfair system but you have a lot of entitled young people walking around. I argue all the time online with this dude who's 26, a college dropout lives at home with his parents and complains about "the system" all the time. You 26, live at home with your mom, and it's everyone else's fault you ain't balling? Foh

∆∆∆∆∆ .....
 
If kids are struggling to make it according to how it’s put in this thread, then it’s obvious something is different.

Obviously traditional upbringing that most of us are accustom to is no longer working the same way. So something is different.
They made these kids into pussies, followers, and drug attics... Remember the term buddah head ? If somebody smoked like 3-4 times a week you was looked as a druggie... Now these nigs smoke 3-4 times a day... Smoking and drinking was some weekend occasional s hit now these nigs drink pints and 5ths everyday... Getting puss Y was the epitome of a great day now these fag nigs rather hang with other dudes and avoid pussy... Pussy is way easier to get, so many money options out here, the tech is out of this world, so much info and network possibilities now, these kids are blowing it... These kids literally got cheatcodes out here and failing... I couldn't imagine having all this stuff at my fingertips at 18 yrs old... These kids can pick and choose the hours they want to work with some of these options out here... Deliver food to cacs whenever we want and make like 20 hr
 
They made these kids into pussies, followers, and drug attics... Remember the term buddah head ? If somebody smoked like 3-4 times a week you was looked as a druggie... Now these nigs smoke 3-4 times a day... Smoking and drinking was some weekend occasional s hit now these nigs drink pints and 5ths everyday... Getting puss Y was the epitome of a great day now these fag nigs rather hang with other dudes and avoid pussy... Pussy is way easier to get, so many money options out here, the tech is out of this world, so much info and network possibilities now, these kids are blowing it... These kids literally got cheatcodes out here and failing... I couldn't imagine having all this stuff at my fingertips at 18 yrs old... These kids can pick and choose the hours they want to work with some of these options out here... Deliver food to cacs whenever we want and make like 20 hr

The pussy life...brah
 
They made these kids into pussies, followers, and drug attics... Remember the term buddah head ? If somebody smoked like 3-4 times a week you was looked as a druggie... Now these nigs smoke 3-4 times a day... Smoking and drinking was some weekend occasional s hit now these nigs drink pints and 5ths everyday... Getting puss Y was the epitome of a great day now these fag nigs rather hang with other dudes and avoid pussy... Pussy is way easier to get, so many money options out here, the tech is out of this world, so much info and network possibilities now, these kids are blowing it... These kids literally got cheatcodes out here and failing... I couldn't imagine having all this stuff at my fingertips at 18 yrs old... These kids can pick and choose the hours they want to work with some of these options out here... Deliver food to cacs whenever we want and make like 20 hr

20/hr lol!

I made $95 in 3 hours during the game. A bit higher than normal, but not much
 
I'm thankful my eldest son has a good head on his shoulders. When he first moved out, he was having a hard time financially and was a hard head.

Wifey and I would assist him as best as possible when he needed money for rent, food etc.. at the same time wifey was trying to convince me to let him come back home...nope! Fire hardens steel.

Now, hes doing well for himself and his understanding of the world has drastically changed for the better. What I love about him is his honesty, he thanks me for being there for him but also being hard on as him as well.
 
IMO nobody is really to blame for this.

Parents teach their kids to succeed the best way they know how. The problem is those ways don't work the same way anymore.

Getting a college degree was a great way to find a leg up back when less than 20% of people had one. Now that nearly half of all adults have at least a bachelor's it doesn't mean as much. Especially now that the cost of school is way higher than it used to be.

Working your way through a company used to be a good way to get a leg up. Very few companies function that way anymore, especially now that union membership is at an all-time low. generally speaking, when a company sees that you're good at working a counter, sweeping a floor, or stuffing envelopes they tend to keep you there.

At this point getting a trade or starting a business is the best way to make a life for yourself. The problem is that most parents don't have any experience to pass on. School certainly don't teach or encourage these lessons either.

What you're left with is a generation of young adults who have jumped through all of life's hoops only to find more hoops. once they've gone through this madness long enough it's no wonder that some of them become disillusioned and unambitious.

As for the parents, it's hard to prepare your kids for hard times when you grew up during America's greatest prosperity.
 
teach your seed a skill as a back up plan and you can avoid a lot

of headaches..

my boys seed had a big ass wedding and paid for the whole thing himself...

good plumbers with people skills and a good rep have no shortage of money..

my boy is so proud of his son.... got his own house car and family and workin on buyin his parent a home all before the ripe ol age of thirty..
 
IMO nobody is really to blame for this.

Parents teach their kids to succeed the best way they know how. The problem is those ways don't work the same way anymore.

Getting a college degree was a great way to find a leg up back when less than 20% of people had one. Now that nearly half of all adults have at least a bachelor's it doesn't mean as much. Especially now that the cost of school is way higher than it used to be.

Working your way through a company used to be a good way to get a leg up. Very few companies function that way anymore, especially now that union membership is at an all-time low. generally speaking, when a company sees that you're good at working a counter, sweeping a floor, or stuffing envelopes they tend to keep you there.

At this point getting a trade or starting a business is the best way to make a life for yourself. The problem is that most parents don't have any experience to pass on. School certainly don't teach or encourage these lessons either.

What you're left with is a generation of young adults who have jumped through all of life's hoops only to find more hoops. once they've gone through this madness long enough it's no wonder that some of them become disillusioned and unambitious.

As for the parents, it's hard to prepare your kids for hard times when you grew up during America's greatest prosperity.

Yea this makes sense to a degree.

It's not really black or white anymore in regards to career paths. You really have to teach kids about multiple streams of income and the value of money/resources at an early age.
 
I'm thankful my eldest son has a good head on his shoulders. When he first moved out, he was having a hard time financially and was a hard head.

Wifey and I would assist him as best as possible when he needed money for rent, food etc.. at the same time wifey was trying to convince me to let him come back home...nope! Fire hardens steel.

Now, hes doing well for himself and his understanding of the world has drastically changed for the better. What I love about him is his honesty, he thanks me for being there for him but also being hard on as him as well.
I did the same thing with my Pops. I didn't realize what he was trying to do until I was around 23-24. I apologized for being a hard headed teen and thanked him for what he tried to teach me earlier. I use that experience to tell my teenager that he won't "GET IT" until he is older, but the life lessons I am beating him over the head with is for his benefit.
 
teach your seed a skill as a back up plan and you can avoid a lot

of headaches..

my boys seed had a big ass wedding and paid for the whole thing himself...

good plumbers with people skills and a good rep have no shortage of money..

my boy is so proud of his son.... got his own house car and family and workin on buyin his parent a home all before the ripe ol age of thirty..

I'm proud of my daughter too. She's in community college getting her sign language interpreter certificate. Takes 2-3 years and costs less than $20k. Family and I have chipped in to help so her loans will be minimal if any.

It's not prestigious, but it is a field with high demand. Also one that's relatively easy to freelance.
 
Where do I start...?

Student loans and college are the first issue. Broke ass kids coming out more in debt with no job for the BS degrees they are getting. Colleges offer too many degrees that don’t pay shit or won’t be useable in the future. Lazy kids are going to college and choosing easy degrees that, once again, are worthless. Students default on then loans so the parents pay them ontop of their own bills. Lot of parents mortgaged the home for dumbass kids who dropped out, took a shit major, or want to take a year off to find themselves.

Secondly, we all should know if our seeds are college material. Face it, you know you have a lazy, dumb or hoe ass child before you co-sign for all them loans.

My good friend is all fucked up. Her husband died just as both kids were starting college. She got a good job but she pays all the bills, has student loans for both kids, both life at home because they went to college in town. Fast forward, the son graduates and moves overseas with his Asian girlfriend and doesn’t take a job in his field. Next, her daughter decides she wants her masters. Another 80k at least. One job, mortgage, two kids and countless loans. All from trying to do the right thing.

Robots will do most job in 10 years or less.

Lastly, I’m never having kids.
 
This is why I'm glad I became a Mooshlum. If you tried to stay at home with your parents past age 25, you would be labeled as a dushty and trifling nigga and FOI would catch you schlippin and beats your ass! Then you'd gets tossed out of the temple and ya mom and pops would be waiting for you when you got home with your shit packed in the yard. Ya mom would call you a trifling lazy fuck nigga and ya daddy would schlap you, and would haveto go back to the temple of Allah and beg them not to kick him out of FOI if you turn out to be a bum misrepresenting the teaching of the Honorable Elijah Muhammad :smh:

It was for this reason that I lefts home at 18 fresh outta high school, and wents right to college at U of M, two weeks after graduation.

Nigga please.

It’s some trifling ass NOI niggas too. Don’t get it twisted. I personally know some NOI mu’fuckas who talk all that black power shit and won’t even bother to get on Indeed and cop a gig to feed their seeds.
 
You know what's worst than that? Telling your 22 year old he can go to school for FREE like I did because I already put in work and I'll either get him a car or help him get one but he has to go to school and/ or work. Or both. Ain't heard from that MF since. Told his ass you ain't hanging out in my house playing Xbox/PS4 (like me) thinking you retired too bruh. That ain't happening. I don't give a fuck if you is my seed nigga. Oh well

Ain't en mad atcha bruh .....
 
Nigga please.

It’s some trifling ass NOI niggas too. Don’t get it twisted. I personally know some NOI mu’fuckas who talk all that black power shit and won’t even bother to get on Indeed and cop a gig to feed their seeds.

We kicked them MFS out. They are never again allowed back into the temple.

There are no lazy FOI! :smh:
Nobody fucks with FOI. We got FOI that are straight up killas! :yes:
 
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