AFRIKA 2.0 ! HUGE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE DIASPORA RIGHT NOW

[mangobob79]

THIS WILL BE THE BIGGEST TRADIN BLOCK IN THE WORLD !! DONT LET CRACKAS ,ASIANS & COONS STRIP U OF UR BIRTH & BLOOD RIGHT AGAIN!!

JUST TELLING ALL MY DOWN FOR THE FAMILY BRUHS WHO ARE FORWARD THINKING !
GET INVOLVED ! ITS GONNA BE BIGGER THAN U CAN IMAGINE!
IM INVOLVED WITH A FEW UNITS DOING 'ECONOMIC TOURS" FRO THE DIASPORA !
GET INVOLVED BROTHERS ! GET INVOLVED !

African Free Trade Takes Effect Now One of the Largest Trading Blocks
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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...battle-over-trade-africa-moves-to-ban-tariffs
What Trade War? Africa Sidesteps Tariffs, Starts Free-Trade Pact
By
Prinesha Naidoo

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Africa, largely ignored in a U.S.-China trade war that could roil economies worldwide, is quietly piecing together the world’s largest free-trade zone.



The African Continental Free Trade Area comes into force on paper on Thursday after the required 22 countries ratified the deal a month ago. Once it’s passed by all 55 nations recognized as part of the African Union, it would cover a market of 1.2 billion people, with a combined gross domestic product of $2.5 trillion.



The potential benefits are obvious, if the usual hurdles of nationalism and protectionism don’t yet stand in the way.



The deal would help the continent move away from mainly exporting commodities to build manufacturing capacity and industrialize, said Jakkie Cilliers, head of African Futures and Innovation at the Pretoria-based Institute for Security Studies. Boosting intra-regional trade would spur the construction of roads and railways, reducing the infrastructure gap in Africa, he said.



World’s Largest Free-Trade Zone
Countries joining the African Continental Free Trade Area

Source: African Union



Trade between African countries is at 15%, compared with 20% in Latin America and 58% in Asia, according to the African Export-Import Bank. This could increase by 52% by 2022 and can more than double within the first decade after implementing the deal, the Cairo-based lender said in a report last year.


After four years of talks, the mechanics of the agreement will be negotiated in phases and it should be fully in operation by 2030. Non-trade barriers, such as delays at ports, and politics, would have to be navigated before the plan to remove tariffs on 90% of goods can be realized. Negotiators will also have to convince economies reliant on these levies for revenue to let them go.

“This is a technocratic agreement,” said Ronak Gopaldas, a London-based director at Signal Risk, which advises companies in Africa. “It’s aspirational in nature and while the direction is positive, translating what has been agreed by the technocrats and the policy makers into stuff that has a material impact on the ease and the cost of doing business and fosters more integrated markets” will remain challenging, he said.

One hurdle to integration is Nigeria. The country that vies with South Africa for the title of Africa’s biggest economy, hasn’t signed up yet. Now re-elected, President Muhammadu Buhari is reviewing an impact-assessment report.

Analysts including Tshepidi Moremong, the head of Africa coverage at FirstRand Group Ltd.’s Rand Merchant Bank, say the deal could still face opposition from oligopolies making “super profits” in the West African nation. Nigeria is one of three countries, including Benin and Eritrea, that hasn’t signed the deal. Twenty-two nations, including South Africa, have ratified the text, the next step after signing.

The trade pact’s implementation could also be scuppered if leaders seeking re-election put sovereign interests ahead of the continent, Moremong said.

“In each of our countries, there are proper issues that one needs to deal with and where people need to see that the government is focused on their day-to-day issues,” she said. “Opening up a market for the people from other parts of the continent to freely come and do commerce and trade in your country is going to take a lot.”

— With assistance by Jeremy Diamond

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The Largest Free Trade Deal in Nearly a Quarter-Century Seeks to Make Africa a Single Market
http://fortune.com/2019/05/25/africa-free-trade-agreement/




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[Uncontainable_Spirit]

I really hope that this works.

 

[Nzinga]

Nigeria which has "Africa's largest economy" refused to join

 

[Nzinga]

I really hope that this works.

It cannot fail...what we need is a common defense against the rapacity of China and the West.

 

[Nzinga]

They should call it the Muamar Gaddafi Trade Pact.

 

[ORIGINAL NATION]

We should be doing stuff like that right here in America. At the grass roots level and at all levels. This is what Marcus Garvey tried to do over here was build a black economy. Farrakhan tried to do it with the clean n fresh products. If I get the right amount of money I am going to do it or go broke trying.

 

[Nzinga]

This post was targeted towards Black Americans, hypothetically offering them
an opportunity to participate in what is said to be a big new opportunity. The
answer: silence... of course, where it comes to spending their own money, that
is always the answer, as it is always their right. But you cannot have it both
ways. When we decide to take Chinese money, you cannot say anything. He
who refuses to sow, refuses to reap; he who refuses to sow forfeits his say.

 

[Nzinga]

Nigeria has refused to participate in this, and after much research and reflection, I have a
better understanding of the Nigerian position. Before this, Africa signed a "trade deal"
with Europe, that was designed, and is guaranteed to screw us. The Europeans used it
to prize open our markets, in which they are dumping their subsidised agriculture and
killing ours. As always with Europeans, there is no gain for Africans in their schemes.
Africa needs tariffs to prospect its weak and nascent economies, but the Europeans want
to keep plundering us. It is to this Nigeria is said to have objected. By signing the African
trade deal, Nigeria would cede the ability to protect the local economy to African officials
in Addis Ababa. I recently watched a very spirited debate, between a Nigerian economist
and an Indian/Pakistani. The coolie was giddy at this so called trade pact, while the
Nigerian was opposed. The coolie spoke with an English accent, and might be the agent
of the foreign interest which stand to gain from the scheme. He kept saying "we" when
alluding to his association with the project....

 

[yureeka9]

I like this plan! But what about those puppet African leaders that still like the taste of kissing European ass? They will have to get permission from their white masters and that's when crackas will make sure all the major decisions are in their best interest.

 

[Nzinga]

I like this plan! But what about those puppet African leaders that still like the taste of kissing European ass? They will have to get permission from their white masters and that's when crackas will make sure all the major decisions are in their best interest.

If you were in their shoes, you would find the world rigged against you, and as the leader
of a little African country, you would find your self jiving the same way....This is being
promoted as a way to strengthen Africa, and therefore to mitigate the behaviour you
condemn.

That is just half of the purpose of this thread.... I see that you want to criticise, but still
do not want to contribute... Should we be disallowing your opinion to be heard?

 

[Megatron X]

How specifically does Ados benefit? It talks about trade, invest, etc. but how do black Americans benefit? Or is it just another scheme to get black Americans money? Cause so far Africa hasn’t showed me no reason to give my money to them. They haven’t showed any worthiness.

Since African nations took part in the slave trade they should give free land to ados to govern themselves. Ados should invest in Ados. Cause I don’t see none of these African nations condemning the treatment of US black American in America the UN. My money doesn’t go away freely.

 

[Dr.Porn]

How specifically does Ados benefit? It talks about trade, invest, etc. but how do black Americans benefit? Or is it just another scheme to get black Americans money? Cause so far Africa hasn’t showed me no reason to give my money to them. They haven’t showed any worthiness.

Since African nations took part in the slave trade they should give free land to ados to govern themselves. Ados should invest in Ados. Cause I don’t see none of these African nations condemning the treatment of US black American in America the UN. My money doesn’t go away freely.

Ghana has extended an invitation to ADOS. I'm not completely clear on the fine print but I think Ghana has the largest population of repatriated ADOS on the continent. Not everyone on the continent is a scammer. Find a trustworthy Ghanaian here and put a plan together to visit and come up with a plan.

 

[ORIGINAL NATION]

How specifically does Ados benefit? It talks about trade, invest, etc. but how do black Americans benefit? Or is it just another scheme to get black Americans money? Cause so far Africa hasn’t showed me no reason to give my money to them. They haven’t showed any worthiness.

Since African nations took part in the slave trade they should give free land to ados to govern themselves. Ados should invest in Ados. Cause I don’t see none of these African nations condemning the treatment of US black American in America the UN. My money doesn’t go away freely.

Just got to stay focused. I have invested and lost before it is not like a little money will be the end of the world. Here in the city I live in I was the only one I know of that bought a distributors kit for the clean n fresh products for the power program. The program did not work because of lack of participation. I actually thought like they thought this should really work. We had a chance to build our own black economy.
After all the things I have tried to do I am starting all over again with worn out tools and lack of proof of work or anything else

 

[Nzinga]

How specifically does Ados benefit? It talks about trade, invest, etc. but how do black Americans benefit?.

You invest, if the scheme profits, you reap the profits. I did not start this
thread and am merely playing devil's advocate

Or is it just another scheme to get black Americans money? .

when was the first scheme to get black American money? We have never
got a penny of black American money. So please stop it.

Cause so far Africa hasn’t showed me no reason to give my money to them.

.

We do not need black American money. We are awash in the foreign
money of the Chinese and others etc. We also have more money of
our own than black Americans have. If we let black Americans invest
in Africa, we are doing them a favour. The point at which black American
money could have afforded any African assets was passed 15 years ago,

. They haven’t showed any worthiness.

.

And the worthiness of black Americans has been shown when, and is what?

Since African nations took part in the slave trade they should give free land to ados to govern themselves.

You accuse us of "another scheme" to steal your money, and then you turn
around and demand free land. You have made the point I was trying to
highlight to the person who started this thread.

Let me dispel the bullshit about free land. There will be no free land
given to anyone. You and I were born in this or the land century; neither
one of us sold the other; what we owe each other is absolutely zero.

We do not need black American money......................................... and if
it were ever availed, it would evidently come with unacceptable derision
and imprecations.... We have enough money an expertise coming into
Africa, and our continent is experiencing higher growth than America or
Europe..

It is amazing and sad, that you would intimate that Africans should give
you land. You have said that you are not of African descent, and that you
are a Moor.... but evidently, when you think there might be something
for you to gain, you find the absent African roots. No bro, stay Moor.

Cause I don’t see none of these African nations condemning the treatment of US black American in America the UN.

This open for debate... but that is for another day

. My money doesn’t go away freely.

What money do you have? The average American is almost $10, 000 dollars
in debt. If there was to be any black American investment in Africa, we Africans
would be doing you a big favour because we can get more investment and
expertise from other places.

 

[yureeka9]

If you were in their shoes, you would find the world rigged against you, and as the leader
of a little African country, you would find your self jiving the same way....This is being
promoted as a way to strengthen Africa, and therefore to mitigate the behaviour you
condemn.

That is just half of the purpose of this thread.... I see that you want to criticise, but still
do not want to contribute... Should we be disallowing your opinion to be heard?

When people post opinion pieces like that, one of the purposes is to solicit comments. If the OP can't take the good with the bad then they shouldn't post news. That being said, my comment is solidly on the side of self determination for Africa. I like to think that's the side that's in their best interest. I'm not here to bring down their efforts. I'm hear to comment on the possible pitfalls of a plan like this. Africa should be grateful for my input and glad that I'm watching their flanks. Every comment that's not gushing with praise isn't an attempt to supplant. Sometimes an objective opinion can be helpful.

 

[Nzinga]

When people post opinion pieces like that, one of the purposes is to solicit comments. If the OP can't take the good with the bad then they shouldn't post news. That being said, my comment is solidly on the side of self determination for Africa. I like to think that's the side that's in their best interest. I'm not here to bring down their efforts. I'm hear to comment on the possible pitfalls of a plan like this. Africa should be grateful for my input and glad that I'm watching their flanks. Every comment that's not gushing with praise isn't an attempt to supplant. Sometimes an objective opinion can be helpful.

"Be grateful for your input? why? Sounds a tad bit arrogant if you ask me. Whatever it is
that you think you are seeing, don't you think we see it too, especially if we are living it......
But there is always that possibility that when you are viewing things from an unfamiliar
and rather great distance, your vision is not as clear as you might think. I would never
presume to see and understand your situation better than you do. If I had the interest
you claim to have, it would behoove me to consult with the people the situation afflicts,
attain a clearer understanding, and then proffer such unsolicited opining as you did...

The Africa you may now vilify fought military war against the same European whose
asses you are now accusing us of eating. At the time, they occupied and physically ruled
our lands. We defeated them, and yes they still pull strings from where there are. We are
under no illusion that our war against the is over, but we have come a long way from the
days when there were less than 10 universities in black Africa to this day when we have more
3,000 and still growing. ...

 

[Nzinga]

Capitalism is capitalism. If the Chinks come in, they own the shit; if cacs come in,
they own the shit; if black Americans could come, they would own the shit. In the
long run we would be owned. With this being said, I'd rather be owned by another
black man, than by either a chink or a cac. Having said this, I am not giving anything
to the Chink or the Cac free; nor am I giving anything to the black American free...
With the latter, we can definitely engage in a conversation to facilitate more favourable
terms. If black Americans were to be interested in joining in, I believe this is the only
understanding that would serve them well...

If black Americans could bring skills, capital, and proof that they were not acting in
agency of cacs... We could avail natural resources at the lowest possible costs; forego
taxes for 10 years, avail electricity, the internet and provide good roads. We would
work with them to provide their executives good accomodation, and provide facilities
for them to bring technology from the US to benefit the race. This win-win arrangement
would neither be publicised nor availed to coolies, cacs and chinks. If those others got
incentives, they would be inferior to those given to a black person...

Black Americans who wanted to work in Africa would get immediate citizenship upon
arrival, the right to vote, and an entitlement to all the benefits of citizenship enjoyed
by a native on the spot.

 

[slewdem100]

Don't trust free trade agreements in general..usually seems like a good deal for the rich while the poor get scraps....need to learn more about this particular deal from different more progressive perspectives (especially progressive Africans)...can be a good thing in terms of African unity in theory

 

[Nzinga]

Don't trust free trade agreements in general..usually seems like a good deal for the rich while the poor get scraps....need to learn more about this particular deal from different more progressive perspectives (especially progressive Africans)...can be a good thing in terms of African unity in theory

22 African countries have signed this thing... but I will have more to say
when I learn more about it.

 

[three-fifths]

if ONE white person is involved in this or any other non-white enterprises, then fuck it.

 

[Nzinga]

if ONE white person is involved in this or any other non-white enterprises, then fuck it.

The Berber and Arabs in North Africa are in it... The Boers in South Africa are happy
about it. All of this is nothing but a beautiful new world for them. It has its benefits
but it also has a lot of peril. Africa could be opening itself up for others to pick it off.
If there are zero tariffs, and then an Italian company sets shop Somalia, and starts
monopolising the shoe market, there would have been no benefit. This thing has to
come with a strong protectionist regime to serve its purpose. It must be open to
Africans and to no one else. The only exception should be black people in the diaspora,
but under close scrutiny to ensure they are not acting as trojan horses for cac schemes

 

[yureeka9]

"Be grateful for your input? why? Sounds a tad bit arrogant if you ask me. Whatever it is
that you think you are seeing, don't you think we see it too, especially if we are living it......
But there is always that possibility that when you are viewing things from an unfamiliar
and rather great distance, your vision is not as clear as you might think. I would never
presume to see and understand your situation better than you do. If I had the interest
you claim to have, it would behoove me to consult with the people the situation afflicts,
attain a clearer understanding, and then proffer such unsolicited opining as you did...

The Africa you may now vilify fought military war against the same European whose
asses you are now accusing us of eating. At the time, they occupied and physically ruled
our lands. We defeated them, and yes they still pull strings from where there are. We are
under no illusion that our war against the is over, but we have come a long way from the
days when there were less than 10 universities in black Africa to this day when we have more
3,000 and still growing. ...

Sounds good to me. I did say I was just giving an opinion. Not trying to claim expert status and not arrogant. Just giving an opinion. Everyone has opinions about things they have limited knowledge about. That opinion is always subject to change as more information becomes available. Yep, this is YOUR fight. Not mine. I'm just wishing you and yours well.

 

[mangobob79]

The Berber and Arabs in North Africa are in it... The Boers in South Africa are happy
about it. All of this is nothing but a beautiful new world for them. It has its benefits
but it also has a lot of peril. Africa could be opening itself up for others to pick it off.
If there are zero tariffs, and then an Italian company sets shop Somalia, and starts
monopolising the shoe market, there would have been no benefit. This thing has to
come with a strong protectionist regime to serve its purpose. It must be open to
Africans and to no one else. The only exception should be black people in the diaspora,
but under close scrutiny to ensure they are not acting as trojan horses for cac schemes

this ^^^

 

[mangobob79]

When people post opinion pieces like that, one of the purposes is to solicit comments. If the OP can't take the good with the bad then they shouldn't post news. That being said, my comment is solidly on the side of self determination for Africa. I like to think that's the side that's in their best interest. I'm not here to bring down their efforts. I'm hear to comment on the possible pitfalls of a plan like this. Africa should be grateful for my input and glad that I'm watching their flanks. Every comment that's not gushing with praise isn't an attempt to supplant. Sometimes an objective opinion can be helpful.

just driving convo with the fam and sharing stuff that those who might b interested in researching more and getting in the game

 

[Nzinga]

Sounds good to me. I did say I was just giving an opinion. Not trying to claim expert status and not arrogant. Just giving an opinion. Everyone has opinions about things they have limited knowledge about. That opinion is always subject to change as more information becomes available. Yep, this is YOUR fight. Not mine. I'm just wishing you and yours well.

Fair enough...but your opinion is appreciated