Wtf Vince. Seriously out of touch.
But that New Day/Wyatt feud should have went on longer. Could have shown that New Day are goofy but can go hard against anyone when pushed. And the Xavier trance thing could have led to somethin . Perhaps a temporary breakup just for that feud. Who knows.
 
listening to jon moxley interview.
suprise, suprise his breaking point came doing all that dumb goofy shit after turning Seth.

anyone not named Vince knew that shit was trash. Also listened to the corner roundtable Kaz yesterday. He confirmed all the writers are writing for an audience of one, Vince.

all the issues they are dealing start and end with him. He loves goofy shit, he loves brock, he love white blondes, he doesn't care about tag teams, thinks all black wrestlers should be R-Truth types, and doesn't get the appeal of wrestlers like Finn/Nak/Rusev/Casero etc
 
listening to jon moxley interview.
suprise, suprise his breaking point came doing all that dumb goofy shit after turning Seth.

anyone not named Vince knew that shit was trash. Also listened to the corner roundtable Kaz yesterday. He confirmed all the writers are writing for an audience of one, Vince.

It's always been like this so for the most part. Vince actually did listen to the audience from say 83-88, but started believing his own hype which started to suck in 89. The 90's he was stuck too until Bischoff and NWO put a hurt on him and he had to listen to guys like Austin and HBK although in many ways Bret Hart's resistance was justified long term.

The signs were there when Austin first walked out in 2002 that Vince was starting to lose touch again. For the most part what Austin was frustrated with has come to fruition years later.
 
I've only listened to some of it. We all know what the problem is. To quote Nasir, "It ain't hard to tell." WWE has the best diverse roster right now than it has ever had and they have fucked it up beyond belief.
 
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I hate they wasted truth all these years

I think about that shit all the time when he got that one push, when he smoking the cigarettes and shit. He should've got the title after that.

To this day, I still say, not sayonara, but "Sah-rah-nara, bye!"




This and the fake Mark Henry retirement promo are my two favorite promos ever. He should've got the title after that, too.
 
honestly i am more entertained listening to wrestling podcasts, reading dirtsheets and posting here than i am watching WWE product
i can still do Smackdown cause of Daniel Bryan, Kofi, KO, Ziggler and a few others
but i am starting to lose interest there as well

tempted to restart my subscription though for the NXT PPV
but suprisingly it has very little buzz and maybe suffering from the overall WWE malaise & AEW success

Yeah, I think I might check out Jericho and Austin's podcasts if I figure out where to find them.
 
Meltzer or someone reported that Triple H is growing more and more frustrated with the main roster product. He has a vision for his "NXT kids" and they get called up with no vision or booking plan for them. WWE will continue to be stale until 1 or 2 things happen. AEW starts kicking their ass in ratings or Vince kicks the bucket.

Just like Cornette's run in OVW, send them up as polish wrestlers then get put in comedic gimmicks (ex. Matt Morgan)
 
listening to jon moxley interview.
suprise, suprise his breaking point came doing all that dumb goofy shit after turning Seth.

anyone not named Vince knew that shit was trash. Also listened to the corner roundtable Kaz yesterday. He confirmed all the writers are writing for an audience of one, Vince.

all the issues they are dealing start and end with him. He loves goofy shit, he loves brock, he love white blondes, he doesn't care about tag teams, thinks all black wrestlers should be R-Truth types, and doesn't get the appeal of wrestlers like Finn/Nak/Rusev/Casero etc
 
Rusev and Lana are on that list for sure. He would be a monster anywhere else. If I had to make a list of potential folks:
Sasha Banks
Braun Strowman
Shinsuke
EC3
Sami Zayn
Kevin Owens
The Revival
Luke Harper
Bobby Roode
American Alpha
Shit most of the girls
I also think that other folks are staying since they are given stuff to do currently. Kofi's reign is definitely going to keep New Day around (as well as the merch). Usos and Naomi possibly. Bayley for sure. Samoa Joe also.
 
Rusev and Lana are on that list for sure. He would be a monster anywhere else. If I had to make a list of potential folks:
Sasha Banks
Braun Strowman
Shinsuke
EC3
Sami Zayn
Kevin Owens
The Revival
Luke Harper
Bobby Roode
American Alpha
Shit most of the girls
I also think that other folks are staying since they are given stuff to do currently. Kofi's reign is definitely going to keep New Day around (as well as the merch). Usos and Naomi possibly. Bayley for sure. Samoa Joe also.

Funny you say that, I think Naomi is on that list.

I think it's...

Sasha Banks
Lio Rush
Rusev
Lana
Naomi (the Usos probably want out too but just signed recently, so they stuck...probably watching what happens with Sasha Banks)
The Revival
The Ascension
Randy Orton
EC3
Luke Harper
Tyler Breeze
 
Funny you say that, I think Naomi is on that list.

I think it's...

Sasha Banks
Lio Rush
Rusev
Lana
Naomi (the Usos probably want out too but just signed recently, so they stuck...probably watching what happens with Sasha Banks)
The Revival
The Ascension
Randy Orton
EC3
Luke Harper
Tyler Breeze
Figured Lio was already on his way out. Tyler and Ascension are good choices. But yea I see her as stuck because of her husband.
 
If I had to make a list of wrestlers who are definitely gone once their deals are up....
  • Sasha Banks
  • Lio Rush
  • Rusev
  • Lana
  • The Revival
  • Luke Harper
This would be it.

The Ascension, Naomi & Usos, Randy Orton, EC3, Tyler Breeze are not going to be leave.

Orton, Usos (and Naomi by extension) are WWE lifers.

The Ascension, although jobbers, are well paid jobbers that won't get over elsewhere.

EC3 and Tyler Breeze may do well in AEW, but I doubt they would make as much in AEW and I just don't see them making the jump.

Hell, AEW already has EC3 in MJF.

Rusev, Harper and The Revival would be big gets for AEW.
 
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