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Are you going to give the Ryzen a chance or are you going to stick with Intel?

I really like my CPU cooler which goes with intel. I have heard that Noctua will send you parts for an upgrade though.

You know whats going to happen...The new Ryzen is going to come out...it's going to outperform Intel on a performance per dollar scale...and then Intel will come out with something a bit better...it never fails.

I have no brand dedication though. I want the best for my budget...so if the new Ryzen is dope...I will get it.

It's all about the 4k performance for me.
 
I really like my CPU cooler which goes with intel. I have heard that Noctua will send you parts for an upgrade though.

You know whats going to happen...The new Ryzen is going to come out...it's going to outperform Intel on a performance per dollar scale...and then Intel will come out with something a bit better...it never fails.

I have no brand dedication though. I want the best for my budget...so if the new Ryzen is dope...I will get it.

It's all about the 4k performance for me.

Cool.

I don't game on my computers. I mainly do weather stuff on my server and I am using the AMD FX-8350.

I do a lot of distributing computing through programming, so my processors are dedicated per script running.

I had to do some research on the AMD vs Intel on performance, but it all came down to budget and AMD won that battle easily for me.

I think in gaming, I would choose my processor based on the power of my video card. Video cards now of days are insanely powerful.
 
Might have to go that route since my overpriced macbooks are having problems. Ain't about to piss away any more money on these underspec'd pieces of shit. Got a powerful windows desktop I built and will just pickup a signature edition windows laptop.

Bruh, don't get me started on Apple and that shit.

I couldn't do nothing but shake my head when I was laptop shopping and seen how overpriced they were for the half ass specs you get.
 
Brand name for the ease of use and someone to cuss out when you got problems.

Build your own if you confident enough to do the research and put the parts together.

Give ryzen a chance. Intel if you into gaming and need that edge.
 
The school I teach at is subscribed to the Linux magazine and they provide bootdisc on each issue they release. I got a stack of those disc.

How long have you been running Peppermint?

Do you like it?

I use to run opensuse, but it was an old version. When I decided to upgrade I just went full Mint.

I have been running Linux for about 15 years i dual boot with win 7
 
:lol:

Im on windows 7 as well, but I dual boot with windows 10.

I actually still prefer 7.

Windows 10 upgrades either make some programs unusable or uninstalls key programs all together.

What you posted is big time overkill for your use though.

You should be able to find something in the 800 or less range easily.

I game.....so.....

I have an i7 4790K, lots of hard drive space (like 6 or 7 gigs), EVGA 2080 ti Ultra Gaming card, NH-D14 Noctua CPU cooler, Thermltake Core X71 case with additional fans,WinTV-quadHD hauppauge tv tuner card, Blue ray burner (cant remember brand), EVGA SuperNOVA 850 B2 Power Supply (This was a backup....I actually have an EVGA SuperNOVA 1050 GS, 80+ GOLD...but it needs to be RMAed), ASUS Z-97 Pro-Gamer Motherboard, Gigabyte BlueTooth/Wifi Expansion card, a PEXUSB3S44V Startech USB 3.0 Card (for VR) and 16 gigs of ADATA RAM.

I am upgrading this bitch soon. I am waiting for Intel to go to the next level. The new cpus of today are not really leaps and bounds ahead of what I bought 3-4 years ago. I game at 4k and there is not much performance difference between the mid-high range cpus of today versus yesterday.

waiting for the "Game Changer"........a cpu that increases my 4k gaming performance by like 20-25 fps......consistently

Until then....Im happy to just keep upgrading my video card as time moves on........

If you have the pro or education version of windows 10 you can completely prevent it from updating. I feel sorry for people who have their PC fucked up by an "update".

Also, if you are gaming at 4k with a 4790k, no cpu will give you better frame rates. At high resolutions like 1440p or 4k, the bottleneck will be your gpu. It's really only when you go down to around 1080p and below where the load on your cpu increases.
 
Bruh, don't get me started on Apple and that shit.

I couldn't do nothing but shake my head when I was laptop shopping and seen how overpriced they were for the half ass specs you get.
That shit is crazy. Never the fuck again. Apple can go fuck themselves. Prices are fucking insulting. I got 3 fucking macs and that's it for me. I just can't justify wasting money on this shit.

And Windows 10 been smooth as shit for me. I just use a user account instead of the default administrator for additional protection. I usually put linux on my windows laptops so I can switch between and pretend to have some kind of privacy. :eek:
 
Bruh, don't get me started on Apple and that shit.

I couldn't do nothing but shake my head when I was laptop shopping and seen how overpriced they were for the half ass specs you get.
For regular usage MacBooks are extremely overpriced but if you do graphic design, video editing, music production or DJing then MacBooks are a must have mainly cuz of the software for them. Since Apple keeps their environment locked, the applications are coded better & use the resources much more efficiently with less likelihood of crashing. I can't justify owning a Mac for any other reason
 
For regular usage MacBooks are extremely overpriced but if you do graphic design, video editing, music production or DJing then MacBooks are a must have mainly cuz of the software for them. Since Apple keeps their environment locked, the applications are coded better & use the resources much more efficiently with less likelihood of crashing. I can't justify owning a Mac for any other reason

I heard people say this (the highlighted part) before and I’m just not sure how much merit that really has. I’ve done all that stuff fairly efficiently with minimum issues on windows desktops.

However, I’m no professional either, so I don’t know the levels that people can go to when it comes to photo/video editing, music production and DJing.

If Windows 10 wasn’t such a disaster, I say Macs are pointless machines for their ridiculous prices regardless of what your doing on the computer. But Windows has managed to create an operating system that is so shitty that they keep Macs more relevant that ever before.
 
For regular usage MacBooks are extremely overpriced but if you do graphic design, video editing, music production or DJing then MacBooks are a must have mainly cuz of the software for them. Since Apple keeps their environment locked, the applications are coded better & use the resources much more efficiently with less likelihood of crashing. I can't justify owning a Mac for any other reason


This is a old way of thinking, macs are no longer the go to computers for production. A windows laptop will work and perform just as well for half the cost. Since Apple came out with the bullshit macbook pro with no sd slots and usb ports people in video and music production have been switching. Final Cut pro is so gutted that adobe premiere and opensource alternatives like Davinci resolve are the go to options for video editing, and those apps will perform in some cases better on windows than vice versa.
 
I heard people say this (the highlighted part) before and I’m just not sure how much merit that really has. I’ve done all that stuff fairly efficiently with minimum issues on windows desktops.

However, I’m no professional either, so I don’t know the levels that people can go to when it comes to photo/video editing, music production and DJing.

If Windows 10 wasn’t such a disaster, I say Macs are pointless machines for their ridiculous prices regardless of what your doing on the computer. But Windows has managed to create an operating system that is so shitty that they keep Macs more relevant that ever before.
I was skeptical a while back to til I ran a test with my friend using a music production app called Reason. It has a demo that allows you to see all the different instruments and modules that could be applied to a song. I was able to run 4 simultaneous instances on a Macbook with an Intel dual-core processor & 8GB RAM while my friend had a 4 core Intel processor with 16GB RAM and could only run 2 simultaneous instances before redlining. I have a 2015 Macbook that I use for DJing and run Serato DJ on it. When I first started using Serato, I had a Windows based laptop. It was a ridiculous hassle having to constantly find drivers and deal with apps running in the background eating away at my resources even though it was a clean Windows install from scratch. I've had no issues since going to MacOS and using Serato.
 
This is a old way of thinking, macs are no longer the go to computers for production. A windows laptop will work and perform just as well for half the cost. Since Apple came out with the bullshit macbook pro with no sd slots and usb ports people in video and music production have been switching. Final Cut pro is so gutted that adobe premiere and opensource alternatives like Davinci resolve are the go to options for video editing, and those apps will perform in some cases better on windows than vice versa.
I haven't used any of the new MacBook Pros so I don't know how they are compared to previous models but I definitely agree that Apple removing the ability to mod RAM & HDD is on some bullshit. I can't co-sign them for that but I still believe MacBooks have the edge for performance mainly cuz of how the software is coded for them. You don't need a new macbook to get the same level of performance that you would need on a higher end Windows laptop just because of the way it uses the resources. Too many variables interfere with the performance on Windows PCs. I got my 2015 with a 1TB SSD HDD & 16GB RAM off craigslist for under $700 so I'm good. I won't need any type of upgrade for the forseeable future.
 
I was skeptical a while back to til I ran a test with my friend using a music production app called Reason. It has a demo that allows you to see all the different instruments and modules that could be applied to a song. I was able to run 4 simultaneous instances on a Macbook with an Intel dual-core processor & 8GB RAM while my friend had a 4 core Intel processor with 16GB RAM and could only run 2 simultaneous instances before redlining. I have a 2015 Macbook that I use for DJing and run Serato DJ on it. When I first started using Serato, I had a Windows based laptop. It was a ridiculous hassle having to constantly find drivers and deal with apps running in the background eating away at my resources even though it was a clean Windows install from scratch. I've had no issues since going to MacOS and using Serato.

Right. Which sounds like more and operating system issue versus a specification thing.

When I transitioned to Linux, there was an immediate difference in performance and efficiency in how my programs ran.

Windows just have too much shit running in the background and too many things in the background that uses processing resources.

So I can see how a computer with less specifications would run a program better on Mac versus windows.

I’m really disappoint that Microsoft went so far away from Windows 7.

I got 16 gigs of RAM and a 7th generation i7 processor running Windows 7 on an HP pro book. This is by far He most efficient computer I have ever owned for what I use it for, which is mainly for video editing and processing, beat making and screen recording.
 
That is a mediocre video card for a desktop computer at that price.

not really. the price on it is pretty much spot on. that's how much we would sell a build like that for. compare it against other pc companies easily sell it for a few hundred bucks more all day
 
Right. Which sounds like more and operating system issue versus a specification thing.

When I transitioned to Linux, there was an immediate difference in performance and efficiency in how my programs ran.

Windows just have too much shit running in the background and too many things in the background that uses processing resources.

So I can see how a computer with less specifications would run a program better on Mac versus windows.

I’m really disappoint that Microsoft went so far away from Windows 7.

I got 16 gigs of RAM and a 7th generation i7 processor running Windows 7 on an HP pro book. This is by far He most efficient computer I have ever owned for what I use it for, which is mainly for video editing and processing, beat making and screen recording.
Exactly. That's why you can get an older MacBook and still be good to go. Up til this past winter, I was running on a 2011 MacBook and had no issues whatsoever. I upgraded mainly so I could get the latest MacOS build and future proof myself for newer releases of Serato. Anyone buying a brand new MacBook is either delusional that they're getting a better buy than an older model or clout chasing to floss having the "latest and greatest"
 
for the price and performance though:

https://www.raptortechpcs.com/shop/...700-radeon-rx-580-16gb-1tb-ssd-gaming-system/

Processor: AMD Ryzen 7 2700 Processor
CPU Cooling: AMD Wraith Cooler
Motherboard: ASRock Fatal1ty B450 Gaming-ITX/ac AM4 mITX AMD Motherboard
Ram: 16GB 2 x 8GB DDR4-3000 PC4-24000 CL16 Dual Channel Desktop Memory
Graphics: Radeon RX 580 8GB GDDR5 PCIe Video Card
Solid State Drive: RaptorTech 1TB 3D TLC NAND SATA III 6GB/s 2.5" Internal Solid State Drive
Power Supply: 650 Watt 80 Plus Bronze ATX Modular Power Supply

raijintekmini.jpg
 
This is a really great deal if you are into gaming and don't wanna build yourself

https://slickdeals.net/f/13037284-d...gtx-1080-16gb-ddr4-989-free-s-h?src=frontpage

$989

Specs

  • Intel Core i7-8700 Processor (8th Generation)
  • 256GB PCIe M.2 NVMe Class 40 Solid State Drive + 2TB Hard Drive (7200 RPM)
  • 16GB DDR4 Memory (2X8GB) 2666MHz
  • NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 8GB GPU (This card is worth between 300 to 400 dollars alone)
  • 8X Ultra Slim DVD+/-RW Drive
  • Alienware 460W Multi-GPU Approved Power Supply w/ High Performance Liquid Cooling
  • Windows 10 Home (64-Bit)
  • 8033263.thumb
I have this exact same PC but mine came with a GTX 1070 instead of a 1080 and mine had a 1 TB hard drive instead of 2 TB HD (I upgrade to 2 TB later). I got it for 1199 (new) just over a year ago. The liquid cooler on here is a nice option, but the CPU is not one you can overclock out the box, so if that's an need this probably isn't the machine for you. This is also certified reconditioned so I assume that means if something's wrong you can get a replacement from Dell.

The 256 GB PCI SSD is not really a standard SSD. It's an 256 GB Intel Optane drive which works in RAID mode with the mechanical disk to give it NEAR SSD performance. It works pretty well actually. Much better than 7600 RPM mechanical drive alone and definitely cheaper than a 2 TB SSD alone.
 
not really. the price on it is pretty much spot on. that's how much we would sell a build like that for. compare it against other pc companies easily sell it for a few hundred bucks more all day

we can agree to disagree. i have a asus gaming laptop with better specs than that at a lower price.

and i can find a similarly equipped computer for less than that price.

but to address the op that computer is overkill for his needs. he can easily half that price for what he is trying to do. and if he is good with his hand he can pay 30% of that price.
 
for the price and performance though:

https://www.raptortechpcs.com/shop/...700-radeon-rx-580-16gb-1tb-ssd-gaming-system/

Processor: AMD Ryzen 7 2700 Processor
CPU Cooling: AMD Wraith Cooler
Motherboard: ASRock Fatal1ty B450 Gaming-ITX/ac AM4 mITX AMD Motherboard
Ram: 16GB 2 x 8GB DDR4-3000 PC4-24000 CL16 Dual Channel Desktop Memory
Graphics: Radeon RX 580 8GB GDDR5 PCIe Video Card
Solid State Drive: RaptorTech 1TB 3D TLC NAND SATA III 6GB/s 2.5" Internal Solid State Drive
Power Supply: 650 Watt 80 Plus Bronze ATX Modular Power Supply

raijintekmini.jpg

this computer is 200 bux less than the op and equally as useful for joe 6 pack. it also has a better video card. if it comes with monitor even better even if the user has no immediate need for it.

the issues are that hideous case, keyboard and mouse.

if that is your site then you know better....
 
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I saw a video of linus tech tips running macOS on a virtual machine in linux. I'm going to try that out. I've already run macOS in a VM in windows and since Windows doesn't support gpu pass through, it was sluggish as hell. All I want is Final Cut Pro, but I don't want to buy a mac just for that.
 
I saw a video of linus tech tips running macOS on a virtual machine in linux. I'm going to try that out. I've already run macOS in a VM in windows and since Windows doesn't support gpu pass through, it was sluggish as hell. All I want is Final Cut Pro, but I don't want to buy a mac just for that.


I saw that one, it would be easier to just create a hackintosh.

 
I saw that one, it would be easier to just create a hackintosh.



I'm going to try that as well and compare. I've tried hackintoshes a while back and it was a headache to get everything working. I'm wondering if running it in a VM will make some things easier since Linux will be the one figuring everything out and handing it to macOS.
 
I saw a video of linus tech tips running macOS on a virtual machine in linux. I'm going to try that out. I've already run macOS in a VM in windows and since Windows doesn't support gpu pass through, it was sluggish as hell. All I want is Final Cut Pro, but I don't want to buy a mac just for that.
You can find macbooks on craigslist for good prices and sometimes stumble across crackhead prices. The good thing I like about Macbooks & MacOS is that you can get very good performance out of 5+ year old models
 
You can find macbooks on craigslist for good prices and sometimes stumble across crackhead prices. The good thing I like about Macbooks & MacOS is that you can get very good performance out of 5+ year old models

That'll probably be the route I go if the hackintosh/VM doesn't work out. I already have an overclocked 14 core CPU (core i9 7940x) so I was hoping to use that since it should greatly outperform a mobile quad core, plus there'd be no additional cost.
 
I saw that one, it would be easier to just create a hackintosh.


That VM crap is way harder than going to Tonymac’s site, going to the buyers guide and outing together a hackingtosh.

Also, there’s another great site dedicated to dell systems running hackintosh, it’s called OSXLatitude, I have a dell laptop and a desktop running my hack with no issues.

I’ve also built hackintoshes using Tonymacs guide, gigabyte boards are the safest, rx580 video cards for easy install, Nvidia is no longer supported on the latest os (Mojave)
 
this computer is 200 bux less than the op and equally as useful for joe 6 pack. it also has a better video card. if it comes with monitor even better even if the user has no immediate need for it.

the issues are that hideous case, keyboard and mouse.

if that is your site then you know better....

that hideous case is one of the most popular selling mini itx cases on the market right now, lol
 
for the price and performance though:

https://www.raptortechpcs.com/shop/...700-radeon-rx-580-16gb-1tb-ssd-gaming-system/

Processor: AMD Ryzen 7 2700 Processor
CPU Cooling: AMD Wraith Cooler
Motherboard: ASRock Fatal1ty B450 Gaming-ITX/ac AM4 mITX AMD Motherboard
Ram: 16GB 2 x 8GB DDR4-3000 PC4-24000 CL16 Dual Channel Desktop Memory
Graphics: Radeon RX 580 8GB GDDR5 PCIe Video Card
Solid State Drive: RaptorTech 1TB 3D TLC NAND SATA III 6GB/s 2.5" Internal Solid State Drive
Power Supply: 650 Watt 80 Plus Bronze ATX Modular Power Supply

raijintekmini.jpg

Don is this your site? I was going to reach out to you this weekend.

Glad you saw the thread!
 
This is a really great deal if you are into gaming and don't wanna build yourself

https://slickdeals.net/f/13037284-d...gtx-1080-16gb-ddr4-989-free-s-h?src=frontpage

$989

Specs

  • Intel Core i7-8700 Processor (8th Generation)
  • 256GB PCIe M.2 NVMe Class 40 Solid State Drive + 2TB Hard Drive (7200 RPM)
  • 16GB DDR4 Memory (2X8GB) 2666MHz
  • NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 8GB GPU (This card is worth between 300 to 400 dollars alone)
  • 8X Ultra Slim DVD+/-RW Drive
  • Alienware 460W Multi-GPU Approved Power Supply w/ High Performance Liquid Cooling
  • Windows 10 Home (64-Bit)
  • 8033263.thumb
I have this exact same PC but mine came with a GTX 1070 instead of a 1080 and mine had a 1 TB hard drive instead of 2 TB HD (I upgrade to 2 TB later). I got it for 1199 (new) just over a year ago. The liquid cooler on here is a nice option, but the CPU is not one you can overclock out the box, so if that's an need this probably isn't the machine for you. This is also certified reconditioned so I assume that means if something's wrong you can get a replacement from Dell.

The 256 GB PCI SSD is not really a standard SSD. It's an 256 GB Intel Optane drive which works in RAID mode with the mechanical disk to give it NEAR SSD performance. It works pretty well actually. Much better than 7600 RPM mechanical drive alone and definitely cheaper than a 2 TB SSD alone.

I like this one. Of course the deal is over though lol.

This is basically what I am looking for.
 
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