is Nipsey Hussle this generation's Tupac??
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So you hardly ever heard of pac before his death?
There are kids today across America who never lived on the same earth as Tupac who love him. (Probably across the world but I'm only speaking on what I know.)
His musical legacy keeps him alive.
I don't see evidence that Nipsey left a real musical legacy, let alone anything comparable to Tupac.
He's nowhere near the Tupac level. Don't forget Tupac died over TWENTY YEARS AGO-- The general public is not going to remember Nipsey with the same intensity. It's not a shot at Nipsey to say that this isn't even close.
His musical legacy keeps him alive.
I don't see evidence that Nipsey left a real musical legacy, let alone anything comparable to Tupac.
He's nowhere near the Tupac level. Don't forget Tupac died over TWENTY YEARS AGO-- The general public is not going to remember Nipsey with the same intensity. It's not a shot at Nipsey to say that this isn't even close.
To this generation its possible.
PAC was thug life until he died. Yeah he talked a little about niccas doing better, but he didn't put that into action as far as I know.....but his music was banging and is still banging today....I know a dozen songs word for word
I couldn't tell you even one song that Nip sang.....narry a one, but his action in the community was stellar...from stores to technology...he was doing it big.
Completely different people......
I couldn't tell you even one song that Nip sang.....narry a one, but his action in the community was stellar...from stores to technology...he was doing it big.
Completely different people......
Peace,
I’m sorry to say it but Nipsey was a much better human being than Pac. As much as he was/is loved and worshipped, Pac was a walking contradiction and displayed symptoms of bipolar illness.
I’m sorry to say it but Nipsey was a much better human being than Pac. As much as he was/is loved and worshipped, Pac was a walking contradiction and displayed symptoms of bipolar illness.
No he's the seed that pac planted because he actually was doing positive things in his community and for his people but he was chopped down;Jay-z is turning into the next faze of all of that with the legal team to help us,charity and setting up a trust for Nip's kids.
Pac wanted to do this stuff but he was young,immature and unsure of how but he spoke of it and put it out there for other's to watch listen and learn what not to do.
Pac wanted to do this stuff but he was young,immature and unsure of how but he spoke of it and put it out there for other's to watch listen and learn what not to do.
I would say no...
however,
Where I fuck with Nipsey at is where everyone else on the board does.
He put his city/neighborhood on.
I have never seen an artist that was COOL with every other rapper
from EVERY COAST!
business minded, woke, educated.
maybe not lyrical as BIG/Pac.
but he put his money back in the hood.
I just start paying attention to him about 3 weeks ago.
He was deep and knew a lot.
Such a loss.
however,
Where I fuck with Nipsey at is where everyone else on the board does.
He put his city/neighborhood on.
I have never seen an artist that was COOL with every other rapper
from EVERY COAST!
business minded, woke, educated.
maybe not lyrical as BIG/Pac.
but he put his money back in the hood.
I just start paying attention to him about 3 weeks ago.
He was deep and knew a lot.
Such a loss.
In terms of musical talent it is not close.
In terms of trying to use gang culture as a platform to uplift black folk, I would say yes. Pac died at 25 and even then he had events and talking points to try and bring a moral code to gang culture; To decrease the violence.
Imagine if he was 33 and had a chance to implement his plan of action into something more tangible. Imaging if THUG LIFE was a political movement with the power to shape the national conversation.
I see Pac as being more of an activist with a broader message and reach than a single hood (crenshaw) but in terms of providing a means of overcoming the effects of klan culture, it is similar.
In terms of trying to use gang culture as a platform to uplift black folk, I would say yes. Pac died at 25 and even then he had events and talking points to try and bring a moral code to gang culture; To decrease the violence.
Imagine if he was 33 and had a chance to implement his plan of action into something more tangible. Imaging if THUG LIFE was a political movement with the power to shape the national conversation.
I see Pac as being more of an activist with a broader message and reach than a single hood (crenshaw) but in terms of providing a means of overcoming the effects of klan culture, it is similar.
Completely unfair to say because Nipsey at 25 had not accomplished a vast majority of what he set out to do and still hadn't at 33
So to judge someone and their works at 25 as opposed to someone who unfortunately got to live to be 33 does a disservice
Nipsey simply had more time and still not enough time as did 2pac.
Im from L.A. I was 16-17 when 2pac died and im 40 and Nipsey just passed. I was hurt by the Pac passing because the West coast image he showed. I dont feel like I was connected to Pac as I was to Nipsey. I never met Nipsey but I have worked at a few events that he was connected with. I dont know about people who are not from here but it's a difference between Pac and Nipsey. Nipsey is in the hood Crenshaw/Slauson. The GQ pictures show you. I feel when Nipsey passed EVERYONE feels it. Like an earthquake it rocked all of us. Its not just the music. Its the person he was and the doors he opened for so many people. Its a common goal we have together is grow up and build in our hood for the next ones up. Nip did that and show how you can start with a table on the corner to have your OWN strip mall on the corner you started on. Its a plan and he did that shit and that will live on....#TMC
Nip got bangerz dont sleep
Nip got bangerz dont sleep
Unpopular opinion here:
Nipsey Hussle is legit about that life.
Pac was not about that life like Nipsey.
I simply cannot see you going to Art School, working as a ballet dancer, being a background dancer for DU and all of a sudden you're a street thug.
That said, Pac's legacy and impact will reverberate far longer than Nipsey's will.
Nipsey Hussle is legit about that life.
Pac was not about that life like Nipsey.
I simply cannot see you going to Art School, working as a ballet dancer, being a background dancer for DU and all of a sudden you're a street thug.
That said, Pac's legacy and impact will reverberate far longer than Nipsey's will.
Amen
Peace,
Pac courted death man. Cats like that don’t live long. It’s a fantasy to suggest that someone with that temperament would have evolved into something else over time. He never planned that for himself. He was too busy chasing oblivion.
Pac courted death man. Cats like that don’t live long. It’s a fantasy to suggest that someone with that temperament would have evolved into something else over time. He never planned that for himself. He was too busy chasing oblivion.
Erm is bigger than pac because of his business savvy
This generation will compare him to pac and you can feel the sadness in the city.
Everywhere, every station I can’t get away from it. On top of my phone blowing up.
Erm is a legend not only because of the music. But because he was literally buying back the block and spoke of positivity and unity
This generation will compare him to pac and you can feel the sadness in the city.
Everywhere, every station I can’t get away from it. On top of my phone blowing up.
Erm is a legend not only because of the music. But because he was literally buying back the block and spoke of positivity and unity
Too dam old to speak on how the kiddies feel. It's like when pac died and asking our parents about 2pac. Older folks literally had no fucks to give.
If people in their teens and early 20s feel Nipsey was that big, he was that big. In 20 years, they will still be bumping his music and rappers will keep him alive like they did pac and biggie.
If people in their teens and early 20s feel Nipsey was that big, he was that big. In 20 years, they will still be bumping his music and rappers will keep him alive like they did pac and biggie.
I understand Tupac's failings and being a walking contradiction but, as Spirit lays out, wasn't Tupac the studio gangster and Nipsey really gang-affiliated?
I don't know Nipsey's life-- I see what people could point at to show he was more mature than 25 year old Tupac but one thing that's bothering me about the glorification of Nipsey is it seems at 33 he had not distanced himself from that life. (Again, I don't know him well enough to cast stones but that's how it seems from what I'm learning.) Nipsey can't both be the one who was "about that life" at 33 and also the more mature one overall. The difference between 33 and 25 is a third of a lifetime.
The kids can't name his top five songs. His appeal seems to be more persona than music. I'm not gonna say nobody is going to bump his music in 20 years-- I still bump Canibus from 20+ years ago-- but it will be like that, a remaining remnant of memories from true fans, not anything close to Tupac.
Tupac will have new fans in 10 years. His enduring appeal is incredible. He's the rap MJ, either one. Almost nobody can match that. It's really a crazy comparison.
Gotta keep in mind Nip was a grown man in his mid 30s when he lost his life.. Pac was a kid in his early 20s still figuring shit out.
Yes and no.
Music talent is not on the same playing field but the mindset is.
His death has canonized him to a greater level than he could have ever imagined when he was alive.
The emotional and communal connection we're all feeling has not been felt since Pac as this a man who was of the people, by the the people and for the people.
Music talent is not on the same playing field but the mindset is.
His death has canonized him to a greater level than he could have ever imagined when he was alive.
The emotional and communal connection we're all feeling has not been felt since Pac as this a man who was of the people, by the the people and for the people.
situation kinda reminds of Pac's rise ..
hardly ever heard of dude before death, now he been lionized as some kinda revolutionary
Seriously.
Is this supposed to be some kind of joke...?
I mean, I'm not particularly familiar with the late Mr. Hustle, but why would you compare him to Tupac at all?
- Two different men.
- Two different types of rappers.
- Two different approaches to life and their craft/art.
Clearly, 'Pac was more reckless and more prone to scandal of the two of them.
While Nipsey seemed to understand the importance of building a Black owned business in his own community.
The fact that both brothers died tragically as victims of gun violence does NOT mean their lives are even remotely comparable.
Peace,
Yeah brother I get that. But I’ve always believed that Pac never planned on living long. It seems like he truly wanted to die and was going to burn down everything around him until he got his wish. It reminds me of a quote from The Godfather (the book):
There are men in this world who go about demanding to be killed. They argue in gambling games; they jump out of their cars in a rage if someone so much as scratches their fender. These people wander through the streets calling out "Kill me, kill me."
To me that describes Pac definitively. He needed help and he never got it because we were too busy idolizing him.
Yeah brother I get that. But I’ve always believed that Pac never planned on living long. It seems like he truly wanted to die and was going to burn down everything around him until he got his wish. It reminds me of a quote from The Godfather (the book):
There are men in this world who go about demanding to be killed. They argue in gambling games; they jump out of their cars in a rage if someone so much as scratches their fender. These people wander through the streets calling out "Kill me, kill me."
To me that describes Pac definitively. He needed help and he never got it because we were too busy idolizing him.
You can't say pac's legacy will have a longer impact... only time will tell
The fact that Nipsey actually opened business and has a physical legacy giving people in his community jobs has far more of a impact than just listening to pac
Pac bigger artist, nipsey bigger community representative... Two will be remembered for two diff things
Tupac was was one the most interviewed filmed photographed musical artists while he was still alive.
He CONTINUES to influence generations of fans.
It is unfair to compare the two.
Nip was a trailblazer.
What he did for the community created not only a blueprint but a system that would be sustainable after his death.
They both inspired not only their fans and communities
But fellow artists to be more civic minded.
They BOTH are legends.
No need to rank them.
Better time spent dismissing and removing these trash influencers and vultures of the hip hop culture
He CONTINUES to influence generations of fans.
It is unfair to compare the two.
Nip was a trailblazer.
What he did for the community created not only a blueprint but a system that would be sustainable after his death.
They both inspired not only their fans and communities
But fellow artists to be more civic minded.
They BOTH are legends.
No need to rank them.
Better time spent dismissing and removing these trash influencers and vultures of the hip hop culture
Not sure I quite agree w the parent part of this. Part of the allure of PAC was that people from 8 to 80 knew who he was.
He did movies w Janet Jackson, his Moms was a Black Panther plus the Dear Mama and Brenda joint gave him universal appeal.
Then he did the I fu@e# your wife joint on some thug ish. I’m not sure anyone other than Prince had that type of appeal.
And actually a lot of people at my job ain’t know who Prince was.
They were similar w Nip being ahead of his time as far as building wealth and community unity.
The key is to today’s teens, the bar is so low that..........
Carry on......
OP must have not been alive when Tupac was alive or was only a baby....
That may or may not be the case.. But it doesnt equate to him being a lesser human being. Certainly not a "much better human". That was beyond harsh brother. Especially when we consider the principles Tupac espoused served to motivate and inspire this brother among millions of others.
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