R. Kelly charged with 10 counts of aggravated criminal sexual abuse [UPDATE: GUILTY OF RACKETEERING]

one side is about getting it together
the other side is about its never our fault
that's the problem lol

especially with r kelly
no dude goes to an r kelly concert without his girl wanting to go or a group of girls wanting to go or going to meet women
none lol

the woman that bailed him out owns a daycare.

I’m was speaking of double standards in general.

But yeah, with R Kelly this shit is different as fuck. The cynical side of me is pleased to see this. It shows how humans will support and justify things that seems so immoral.

I’m more interested in why is the support so heavy. It almost seems rebellious for whatever reason.
 
I’m was speaking of double standards in general.

But yeah, with R Kelly this shit is different as fuck. The cynical side of me is pleased to see this. It shows how humans will support and justify things that seems so immoral.

I’m more interested in why is the support so heavy. It almost seems rebellious for whatever reason.

My problem with this case is this. when they talk about it they point the finger at black men and say well we don't care about black women because we support our Kelly when in reality we don't support Kelly at all we just don't we don't go out of our way to condemn him but we don't support him and we never have. And then they ignore the fact that women are the ones who have supported him all these years despite the claims and evidence to the contrary of him being a good person so it's like how are you going to blame black men for this shit and totally absolve the black women whose are like I don't really care what he did I love his music because that's pretty much his entire demographic and fan base. So what's really going on here how does that work you know like even now like a woman bails him out of jail no one will say shit about it though but if it had been a man that bail him out of jail see that's why black men don't love black women very interesting.
 
My problem with this case is this. when they talk about it they point the finger at black men and say well we don't care about black women because we support our Kelly when in reality we don't support Kelly at all we just don't we don't go out of our way to condemn him but we don't support him and we never have. And then they ignore the fact that women are the ones who have supported him all these years despite the claims and evidence to the contrary of him being a good person so it's like how are you going to blame black men for this shit and totally absolve the black women whose are like I don't really care what he did I love his music because that's pretty much his entire demographic and fan base. So what's really going on here how does that work you know like even now like a woman bails him out of jail no one will say shit about it though but if it had been a man that bail him out of jail see that's why black men don't love black women very interesting.

That bold part is funny to me. I’ve heard that often. I don’t have an issue with respecting the art, but I know for many that’s just a diet way of saying they support him.

Many of them even points their fingers at the victims and the family. Which I agree, many folks should go down for this, especially that was trying to exploit their daughters for gains.

But all this is 100% on Robert’s dumbass.

My wife loves his music, but show knows if she want to enjoy his music, she can’t listen to it around me because I’m going to be talking big shit the entire time.
 
I'ma have to disagree with the good doctor on this one. The parents gotta eat a some of this blame sandwich.

I agree. What I meant by “100% on Robert” was that regardless of the parents exploiting their children to a predator, ultimately Robert still made the decisions to have sex with these girls. That what I meant by 100% on Robert. It was the decision to go through with it.

The overall big picture, I agree the blame is shared between Robert and the parents.
 
I pray for you Chicago niggas 5 times daily

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you just named mad shit "we" could have done... What you mean to say is ' It wasn't worth it to you'

Again with the "we" shit. Da fuck am I supposed to do about someone doing shit in Chicago or Atlanta or westbumblewhereverthefuck? So if you had a chance would you have taken some of your boys and rolled up on Kelz and enacted some vigilante justice? Nah, I don't think you would have. You went from "fuck everybody who wanna see Kelz locked up." to "Black People didn't do nothing! We are so weak/lost" to "stop letting White people tell you what to think/do!" to "there's bigger things than R. Kelly." You sound like a groupie in denial.
 
That bold part is funny to me. I’ve heard that often. I don’t have an issue with respecting the art, but I know for many that’s just a diet way of saying they support him.

Many of them even points their fingers at the victims and the family. Which I agree, many folks should go down for this, especially that was trying to exploit their daughters for gains.

But all this is 100% on Robert’s dumbass.

My wife loves his music, but show knows if she want to enjoy his music, she can’t listen to it around me because I’m going to be talking big shit the entire time.

You can't separated in this instance because the music he makes he's singing to little girls so how can you draw a line in the sand and say well the artist different from the person when the person is using the art to do the deviant thing that it is being questioned and condemned?
 
You can't separated in this instance because the music he makes he's singing to little girls so how can you draw a line in the sand and say well the artist different from the person when the person is using the art to do the deviant thing that it is being questioned and condemned?

It’s not my place to judge how a person see or use art though. Knowing who he was before all this, his music was good RnB to me. Knowing who he is since everything came to light, his music sounds drastically different to me. I can’t listen to it anymore.

Perspective of art regardless of the intentions of the creator is up to the individuals that interprets it. Serial killers make art in how they kill people. I may be morally disgusted with it, but I can see the art as well. And there levels that people can take it I would rather just not know about.

If a person want to be disgusted with Robert’s actions, but also want to continue to listen to his music, then they can take that up with their god and explain it to him.

Personally, I can’t listen to his music anymore. If others want to, then that’s on them.
 
It’s not my place to judge how a person see or use art though. Knowing who he was before all this, his music was good RnB to me. Knowing who he is since everything came to light, his music sounds drastically different to me. I can’t listen to it anymore.

Perspective of art regardless of the intentions of the creator is up to the individuals that interprets it. Serial killers make art in how they kill people. I may be morally disgusted with it, but I can see the art as well. And there levels that people can take it I would rather just not know about.

If a person want to be disgusted with Robert’s actions, but also want to continue to listen to his music, then they can take that up with their god and explain it to him.

Personally, I can’t listen to his music anymore. If others want to, then that’s on them.

But it's not up for judgement lol
It's fact.
He wrote Aaliyah words
He sung to little girls
He called himself the pied Piper lol
It's not an abstract judgement thing in this case
Specifically with him it's verfiable fact
 
But it's not up for judgement lol
It's fact.
He wrote Aaliyah words
He sung to little girls
He called himself the pied Piper lol
It's not an abstract judgement thing in this case
Specifically with him it's verfiable fact

I’m not disagreeing.

I’m specifically speaking about people’s choice to continue to listen to his music. Knowing those facts and still choosing to listen is a moral decision for that individual.
 
You're trying to clown people for being happy that a predator may finally be getting his ass locked up. Is that how they do it in The Chi? Long as it doesn't affect you right?


Not clowning anyone....all I'm saying is most arent fighting a real battle. I sympathize with real victims of sexual assault.. abuse etc. Men and Women. But Women (e.g, R Kelly and Bill Cosby accusers) and Men (e.g, Terry Crews) who ride waves and act like they relate to REAl victims... just so they can collect money or build clout....are disgusting. Do u get it?
 
Cosby accusers riding waves cuz they were drugged, and he admitted it.
You are trying to justify pedophilia with a childs admiration of a real life idol to them.
Your next excuse was the 14 yo old was built like an 18 yo. and she probably seduced him.
FOH with that.
This fuck nigga prey on children, no fucking excuses.



Not clowning anyone....all I'm saying is most arent fighting a real battle. I sympathize with real victims of sexual assault.. abuse etc. Men and Women. But Women (e.g, R Kelly and Bill Cosby accusers) and Men (e.g, Terry Crews) who ride waves and act like they relate to REAl victims... just so they can collect money or build clout....are disgusting. Do u get it?
 


Can we jail jewish people for biting and sucking bloody baby dicks during their circumcision? Or yall just want black sex offenders that break the law?
 
Where is the outrage for american Khazar (Jewish) that practice metzitzah b'peh?

Yall know how common this is among jewish americans? Why yall not upset with that? Oh.....is it cuz they white?
 
https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/r-kelly-charged-bond-lifetime/

Valencia Love and Robert Sylvester Kelly — or, by his better known singing name, R. Kelly — don’t yet have a long-term friendship. Yet within a few months of meeting the R&B singer, Love posted $100,000 to help Kelly win his freedom from Cook County Jail after he spent three nights in custody.

Love was a fan of Kelly’s music when she met the 52-year-old singer on the cruise in September, according to Don Russell, one of Kelly’s close friends. Over the weekend, she called members of Kelly’s inner-circle and told them she wanted to help when she saw he wasn’t able to make bail.

She wanted Rob to have a chance at justice, and she thought he’d have a better chance outside of jail than inside,” Russell said.

On court paperwork, Love describes herself as a “friend” of Kelly’s as she shelled out $25,000 for each of the four cases — all with a different alleged victim — in which Kelly is accused of aggravated sexual abuse.

Although she put down six figures to get Kelly out of jail, Love’s own finances have been rocky, court records show.

She filed for bankruptcy in 2015, saying she couldn’t pay $2,700 in parking tickets. She told the court she was a teacher at a South Side day care where she’d worked for seven years.

But in 2017, she and her former husband came into a windfall. Each got about $1.1 million in a legal settlement from a wrongful-death lawsuit they filed against the former Children’s Medical Hospital in Chicago, court records show. Their daughter had died in 2010 during a heart procedure at the hospital, according to the records.


Love, 47, of southwest suburban Romeoville, is a corporate officer of the day care where she was a teacher, according to the Illinois Secretary of State’s office. She also is listed in secretary of state records as a manager of a restaurant, Love on the Blu, in south suburban Blue Island.

Several attempts to reach Love for comment were unsuccessful.

Love’s personal finances might not even be an issue in her obtaining bail for Kelly, based on what she told WLS-Channel 7.

She was quoted as saying, “It was his own money. I just posted bail for him,” adding that Kelly is a “good friend of mine.”
 
https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/r-kelly-charged-bond-lifetime/

Valencia Love and Robert Sylvester Kelly — or, by his better known singing name, R. Kelly — don’t yet have a long-term friendship. Yet within a few months of meeting the R&B singer, Love posted $100,000 to help Kelly win his freedom from Cook County Jail after he spent three nights in custody.

Love was a fan of Kelly’s music when she met the 52-year-old singer on the cruise in September, according to Don Russell, one of Kelly’s close friends. Over the weekend, she called members of Kelly’s inner-circle and told them she wanted to help when she saw he wasn’t able to make bail.

She wanted Rob to have a chance at justice, and she thought he’d have a better chance outside of jail than inside,” Russell said.

On court paperwork, Love describes herself as a “friend” of Kelly’s as she shelled out $25,000 for each of the four cases — all with a different alleged victim — in which Kelly is accused of aggravated sexual abuse.

Although she put down six figures to get Kelly out of jail, Love’s own finances have been rocky, court records show.

She filed for bankruptcy in 2015, saying she couldn’t pay $2,700 in parking tickets. She told the court she was a teacher at a South Side day care where she’d worked for seven years.

But in 2017, she and her former husband came into a windfall. Each got about $1.1 million in a legal settlement from a wrongful-death lawsuit they filed against the former Children’s Medical Hospital in Chicago, court records show. Their daughter had died in 2010 during a heart procedure at the hospital, according to the records.


Love, 47, of southwest suburban Romeoville, is a corporate officer of the day care where she was a teacher, according to the Illinois Secretary of State’s office. She also is listed in secretary of state records as a manager of a restaurant, Love on the Blu, in south suburban Blue Island.

Several attempts to reach Love for comment were unsuccessful.

Love’s personal finances might not even be an issue in her obtaining bail for Kelly, based on what she told WLS-Channel 7.

She was quoted as saying, “It was his own money. I just posted bail for him,” adding that Kelly is a “good friend of mine.”

Yikes, that lady has been through some shit.
 
You can't separated in this instance because the music he makes he's singing to little girls so how can you draw a line in the sand and say well the artist different from the person when the person is using the art to do the deviant thing that it is being questioned and condemned?


idk who, he's singing to. It's art, it's subjective, so when i listen to it, it's bout who ever I prefer in that moment. Your reaching a good bit lolss. TBH, O steal and always have stolen R. Kelliy's music. So I don't honestly support him, or and R&B financially.
I do support his lifestyle on the terms that those girls wanted to have sex, their parents didn't mind, and so one was hurt (maybe emotionally). The fact is under age people have sex all the time. It is legal to marry a 14 year old in this country still ..
If people truly cared, and weren't being controlled by the media they would ask for equal statutory punishment, the abolishment of under aged marriage, and harsher sentences for people who purger rape allegations.

Aside from that Imma take this for what it is, a witch hunt, an excuse to feign justice in this rape climate. Let all the sicko white insane rapists go, and arrest anyone black.
 
idk who, he's singing to. It's art, it's subjective, so when i listen to it, it's bout who ever I prefer in that moment. Your reaching a good bit lolss. TBH, O steal and always have stolen R. Kelliy's music. So I don't honestly support him, or and R&B financially.
I do support his lifestyle on the terms that those girls wanted to have sex, their parents didn't mind, and so one was hurt (maybe emotionally). The fact is under age people have sex all the time. It is legal to marry a 14 year old in this country still ..
If people truly cared, and weren't being controlled by the media they would ask for equal statutory punishment, the abolishment of under aged marriage, and harsher sentences for people who purger rape allegations.

Aside from that Imma take this for what it is, a witch hunt, an excuse to feign justice in this rape climate. Let all the sicko white insane rapists go, and arrest anyone black.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion. However, just like most FB and IG comments on the issue, you sound uninformed, but trying to be woke at the same time. To other like minded folks, they are going to cosign what you say. For people that can actually do research, you are going to look like a person that can't do a google search.
 
https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/r-kelly-charged-bond-lifetime/

Valencia Love and Robert Sylvester Kelly — or, by his better known singing name, R. Kelly — don’t yet have a long-term friendship. Yet within a few months of meeting the R&B singer, Love posted $100,000 to help Kelly win his freedom from Cook County Jail after he spent three nights in custody.

Love was a fan of Kelly’s music when she met the 52-year-old singer on the cruise in September, according to Don Russell, one of Kelly’s close friends. Over the weekend, she called members of Kelly’s inner-circle and told them she wanted to help when she saw he wasn’t able to make bail.

She wanted Rob to have a chance at justice, and she thought he’d have a better chance outside of jail than inside,” Russell said.

On court paperwork, Love describes herself as a “friend” of Kelly’s as she shelled out $25,000 for each of the four cases — all with a different alleged victim — in which Kelly is accused of aggravated sexual abuse.

Although she put down six figures to get Kelly out of jail, Love’s own finances have been rocky, court records show.

She filed for bankruptcy in 2015, saying she couldn’t pay $2,700 in parking tickets. She told the court she was a teacher at a South Side day care where she’d worked for seven years.

But in 2017, she and her former husband came into a windfall. Each got about $1.1 million in a legal settlement from a wrongful-death lawsuit they filed against the former Children’s Medical Hospital in Chicago, court records show. Their daughter had died in 2010 during a heart procedure at the hospital, according to the records.


Love, 47, of southwest suburban Romeoville, is a corporate officer of the day care where she was a teacher, according to the Illinois Secretary of State’s office. She also is listed in secretary of state records as a manager of a restaurant, Love on the Blu, in south suburban Blue Island.

Several attempts to reach Love for comment were unsuccessful.

Love’s personal finances might not even be an issue in her obtaining bail for Kelly, based on what she told WLS-Channel 7.

She was quoted as saying, “It was his own money. I just posted bail for him,” adding that Kelly is a “good friend of mine.”


they are going in on her hard too
 
idk who, he's singing to. It's art, it's subjective, so when i listen to it, it's bout who ever I prefer in that moment. Your reaching a good bit lolss. TBH, O steal and always have stolen R. Kelliy's music. So I don't honestly support him, or and R&B financially.
I do support his lifestyle on the terms that those girls wanted to have sex, their parents didn't mind, and so one was hurt (maybe emotionally). The fact is under age people have sex all the time. It is legal to marry a 14 year old in this country still ..
If people truly cared, and weren't being controlled by the media they would ask for equal statutory punishment, the abolishment of under aged marriage, and harsher sentences for people who purger rape allegations.

Aside from that Imma take this for what it is, a witch hunt, an excuse to feign justice in this rape climate. Let all the sicko white insane rapists go, and arrest anyone black.




Way to dive off the cliff man.


Listen he sung to and about and recorded the songs about and around underage women
He wrote the songs sung by underage women (age ain't nothing but a number?)
So yeah
No wiggle room


And your stance on underage sex is troubling to say the bare minimum
Hopefully you're not within 100 feet of a school or park
 
Not clowning anyone....all I'm saying is most arent fighting a real battle. I sympathize with real victims of sexual assault.. abuse etc. Men and Women. But Women (e.g, R Kelly and Bill Cosby accusers) and Men (e.g, Terry Crews) who ride waves and act like they relate to REAl victims... just so they can collect money or build clout....are disgusting. Do u get it?

Uh huh.

Cosby accusers riding waves cuz they were drugged, and he admitted it.
You are trying to justify pedophilia with a childs admiration of a real life idol to them.
Your next excuse was the 14 yo old was built like an 18 yo. and she probably seduced him.
FOH with that.
This fuck nigga prey on children, no fucking excuses.

Did you honestly say this shit? A Yes or No will suffice.

idk who, he's singing to. It's art, it's subjective, so when i listen to it, it's bout who ever I prefer in that moment. Your reaching a good bit lolss. TBH, O steal and always have stolen R. Kelliy's music. So I don't honestly support him, or and R&B financially.
I do support his lifestyle on the terms that those girls wanted to have sex, their parents didn't mind, and so one was hurt (maybe emotionally). The fact is under age people have sex all the time. It is legal to marry a 14 year old in this country still ..

Yeah underage people have sex all the time...with each other you smartdumb nigga.
 
How yaw knw that 14 year old pussy saying isnt a fetish?

A role play type shit



How do Yaw Knw?

- said by FEMALE coworker
 
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Uh huh.



Did you honestly say this shit? A Yes or No will suffice.



Yeah underage people have sex all the time...with each other you smartdumb nigga.


Your a little slow today I see ,I'm obviously not talking about with other young people. It's an R. Kelly thread... Did you forget where you are posting at?
 
Way to dive off the cliff man.


Listen he sung to and about and recorded the songs about and around underage women
He wrote the songs sung by underage women (age ain't nothing but a number?)
So yeah
No wiggle room


And your stance on underage sex is troubling to say the bare minimum
Hopefully you're not within 100 feet of a school or park


It's becauseI am around children that I understand more of what they do than any of you. I would hope you never have children, you'd probably only confuse the shit out of them.Don't take it negatively though, most African Americans fuck up their kids. :)
 
Everyone is entitled to their opinion. However, just like most FB and IG comments on the issue, you sound uninformed, but trying to be woke at the same time. To other like minded folks, they are going to cosign what you say. For people that can actually do research, you are going to look like a person that can't do a google search.


Ok, uninformed about what? What's an opinion? Keep in mind that I see these things play out all day everyday.
That being said I would love to be get any new info I don't already have BGLR
 
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