Taraji P. Henson Sparks Outrage After Comparing R. Kelly To Harvey Weinstein

[playahaitian]

Some good points made here. If you go after corruption, there's gonna be fallout and collateral damage. The other option would be to just let bad shit continue.

NEVER that...

just create a system where victims have a voice

and the ACCUSED are PROSECUTED and JUDGED and SENTENCES JUSTLY.

and law enforcement at all levels are HELD responsible

cause in ALL this talk?

For some reason the REAL people HIRED ELECTED AND PAID

by US to protect these victims?

Are NOT doing they job apparently.

Where child services?

Where the police?

Where the DA?

 

[gene cisco]

Fuck does Harvey have to do with R Kelly? When the Harvey shit went down, people were bitching about POWER. That he used his POWER to exploit poor, innocent white women to get pussy. R Kelly preyed underage girls. Harvey had dingbats coming to his hotel room at 1am to discuss business. His current trial is a fucking joke. A girl who fucked with him for years accusing him of sexual assault.

Harvey is a creep. R Kelly did criminal shit. Big difference. Talking about dumb ass white women who put themselves in stupid positions vs black children. Anyone making the comparison between R Kelly and Harvey needs their asses kicked.

 

[woodchuck]

The real question is why did so many Black folks take this long to hold him accountable?

This is the part that baffles me. Dude was up for an NAACP Image award, even though the public was aware of that video's existence! WTF?!

 

[respiration]

NEVER that...

just create a system where victims have a voice

and the ACCUSED are PROSECUTED and JUDGED and SENTENCES JUSTLY.

and law enforcement at all levels are HELD responsible

cause in ALL this talk?

For some reason the REAL people HIRED ELECTED AND PAID

by US to protect these victims?

Are NOT doing they job apparently.

Where child services?

Where the police?

Where the DA?

True.

I lost respect for a LOT of entertainers as well that continued to mess with R. Kelly even when the piss tape was common knowledge.

I'm a Christian and lost the most respect for gospel artists like Kim Burrell and Kirk Franklin.

All of the above were among his enablers.

Also, I had forgotten about those celebrities that spoke out in defense of Harvey Weinstein. Thanks for pointing that out.

 

[respiration]

This is the part that baffles me. Dude was up for an NAACP Image award, even though the public was aware of that video's existence! WTF?!

I guess he was the pied piper to more than just kids.

 

[playahaitian]

What I'm saying is, I look at it kinda like the Black Lives Matter movement. Just because you got a few coons saying, "what about black on black crime?" doesn't mean Black folks as a whole are hypocritical.

I'm sure that most of our Sistas who are vocally anti-R. Kelly aren't attending his concerts.

That documentary is the most high profile expose of him to date. It's no surprise that it's getting the reaction that it is. Is that a bad thing? Shouldn't his feet be held to the fire? I agree it should have been before now. But a good number of his fans and his industry contemporaries continued to support him even when everyone knew he peed in an underage girl's face. The real question is why did so many Black folks take this long to hold him accountable?

Of COURSE WE NEED TO PUNISH and REMOVE THESE PREDATORS!

but I think the problem comes in ESPECIALLY in BLACK COMMUNITIES...

finger pointing and bullsh*t lazy generalization

When rappers say hoe and bitch in their music

all of a sudden they calling ALL BLACK WOMEN HOE and BITCH.

Black women started saying ALL MEN are DOGS

When this R. Kelly thing happens

EVERYONE is to blame.... everyone ELSE.

But the SAME people pointing fingers bought records went to concert danced laughed at the Chappelle skit and watched the pee video...

but NOW?

YOU ALL ARE GUILTY.

Its DANGEROUS and it continues,

EVERY BLACK MAN doesn't have TOXIC MASCULINITY or is a DEAD BEST DAD or a DOG

EVERY BLACK WOMAN is NOT a bitch hoe or groupie or LYING about being raped or beat up or is young and HOT IN THE PANTS

BUT

if you go on your FAVORITE website or social media platform?

based on the algorithms they are using AGAINST US ABOUT US?

Well that is EXACTLY what you would think.

and again these garbage stereotypes existed WAY BEFORE the internet...but it has gotten WORSE.

So because generalizations like these have SOME truth?

they are dangerous because they CAN fuel reasonable rational people to speak to an audience you is NOT trying to hear LOGIC when they are EMOTIONAL

They DEFENDING R. Kelly etc because they DO NOT want ADMIT what they REFUSED to accept for DECADES

 

[Silencer]

Again, that's why I said "those" women, meaning the ones that were screaming for him.

Oh, gotcha.

Yeah there are always gonna be idiots out there. Like those maga bitches talking about "Trump can grab my snatch".

 

[woodchuck]

Oh, gotcha.

Yeah there are always gonna be idiots out there. Like those maga bitches talking about "Trump can grab my snatch".

Or when a rapper shoots somebody, and people run around with a "Free (insert rapper here) t-shirt. I don't want that asshole walking the streets!

 

[respiration]

Of COURSE WE NEED TO PUNISH and REMOVE THESE PREDATORS!

but I think the problem comes in ESPECIALLY in BLACK COMMUNITIES...

finger pointing and bullsh*t lazy generalization

When rappers say hoe and bitch in their music

all of a sudden they calling ALL BLACK WOMEN HOE and BITCH.

Black women started saying ALL MEN are DOGS

When this R. Kelly thing happens

EVERYONE is to blame.... everyone ELSE.

But the SAME people pointing fingers bought records went to concert danced laughed at the Chappelle skit and watched the pee video...

but NOW?

YOU ALL ARE GUILTY.

Its DANGEROUS and it continues,

EVERY BLACK MAN doesn't have TOXIC MASCULINITY or is a DEAD BEST DAD or a DOG

EVERY BLACK WOMAN is NOT a bitch hoe or groupie or LYING about being raped or beat up or is young and HOT IN THE PANTS

BUT

if you go on your FAVORITE website or social media platform?

based on the algorithms they are using AGAINST US ABOUT US?

Well that is EXACTLY what you would think.

and again these garbage stereotypes existed WAY BEFORE the internet...but it has gotten WORSE.

So because generalizations like these have SOME truth?

they are dangerous because they CAN fuel reasonable rational people to speak to an audience you is NOT trying to hear LOGIC when they are EMOTIONAL

They DEFENDING R. Kelly etc because they DO NOT want ADMIT what they REFUSED to accept for DECADES

Damn

 

[xxxbishopxxx]

If it makes any difference to any of ya'll, Brian Singer is back in the news.

https://variety.com/2019/biz/news/bryan-singer-allegations-sex-underage-boys-1203115090/

I will say i find it interesting that as of now, he is attached to a new project.

 

[MistaPhantastic]

Yes, certainly that is another option.

Dude is grimy. Period.

You and I might disagree on this. From where I sit, he's getting attention he has long deserved.

It never should have been old. We as a community should have dealt with it long before now.

Oh no, I agree. I was saying "fuck R. Kelly" back then. Now, I just don't (and won't) care. Aaliyah is gone; other chick is grown and its in the past. I refuse to care about it now that they need a distraction for Agent Orange.

 

[ansatsusha_gouki]

True.

I lost respect for a LOT of entertainers as well that continued to mess with R. Kelly even when the piss tape was common knowledge.

I'm a Christian and lost the most respect for gospel artists like Kim Burrell and Kirk Franklin.

All of the above were among his enablers.

Also, I had forgotten about those celebrities that spoke out in defense of Harvey Weinstein. Thanks for pointing that out.

This is,why I called Lady Gaga's outrage bullshit because she did a song with him in 2013 yet want to act innocent like she didnt know this case.

 

[ViCiouS]

https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2019/01/new-bryan-singer-allegations

How come when someone points out the hypocrisy between white folks vs black folks,it means we're letting someone from the black community off the hook....Nobody isnt saying R Kelly should be off the hook(even though you have pieces of shits defending him),we're saying instead if trying to make black men the face of everything, why not use that same energy on white people....

https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2019/01/new-bryan-singer-allegations
Last year,you had a white actress accused of sleeping with an underage kid. Hell,you had Lena Dunham write a book talking how she inappropriately touch her little sister and that got swept under by the media. Don't let start on how many white men like the 7th Heaven dad,Roman Polanski,Bryan Singer, and Elvis were swept under the rug yet folks want to use black men as the face of sexual assault and pedophilia.
https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2019/01/new-bryan-singer-allegations
If,you gonna go after black men,you better go after them all...

https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2019/01/new-bryan-singer-allegations
https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2019/01/new-bryan-singer-allegations

Bryan Singer,Woody Allen and Roman Polanski are still producing movies and getting praised despite being known pedophiles....Women still follow Lena Dunham and Asia Argento and the north of them continue to get movie roles despite their history of pedophilia...

https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2019/01/new-bryan-singer-allegations
https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2019/01/new-bryan-singer-allegations
I have no problem with folks getting angry and not supporting R. Kelly because I'm on that side of the fence(I was never a fan before the accusations)but,if folks want go after him they should go after all these other folks the same way that's all I'm saying...

https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2019/01/new-bryan-singer-allegations

Bryan Singer Accused of Sexually Abusing Numerous Underage Boys ...
Vanity Fair-6 hours ago
Bohemian Rhapsody Director Bryan Singer Accused of Sexually ...
PEOPLE.com-6 hours ago

Bryan Singer Hit With New Allegations of Sexual Abuse and ...
Vulture-6 hours ago

 

[playahaitian]

I guess he was the pied piper to more than just kids.

^^^^

BOOM

 

[ViCiouS]

And if Weinstein wasn’t muted I don’t know who was then. That man was richer and more powerful than Kelly and owned the second largest studio in America... now they are bankrupt.

You definitely don't know who was...
Weinstein still has his money and access to power - wait till you see the fuckery that going to happen when his trial starts to move forward

Harvey Weinstein's public excoriation in media and social media and real life negates the argument of Bill Cosby and R. Kelly getting undue attention.

bullshit - you either blind or brainwashed
too many of y'all sleep walking

I KNOW that you have absolutely no clue the extent of what Weinstein is accused of
why?
because the media isn't interested in reporting it - outside of a select few famous names.
and now -you never hear people repeat how he is accused of performing at least 2 or 3 home invasion / break ins followed by rape in at least 2 different countries

REALLY fucking compare the reporting and media bias on Weinstein Singer et al - vs Cosby and even Kelly
The media paid WAY more attention to RKelly trial than Woody Allen's divorce and multiple pedo accusations that surfaced in the court

Just let me know when any of these white guys get a dedicated 2 year pageant of victims with media using documented perjurers and well known liars on primetime tv news and tabloids etc - to keep pushing a predator narrative towards a white face

or when any of these guys get anything even close to an emotionally manipulative 6 part documentary targeting them
Most any of those dudes get is a 10 to 20 minute segment on 20/20 Dateline - shit PBS with a limited budget gives more time and reporting

Have we seen a special with every 'alleged' victim of Weinstein on a stage or at a single photo shoot yet?

okay...simple question

WHAT DO YOU DO ABOUT A CRIMINAL IN YOUR MIDSTS WHO HAS GOTTEN AWAY WITH THEIR CRIMES? AS A COMMUNITY?

ostracize them and anyone that chooses to rock with them

but money talks and morals walk

Fuck does Harvey have to do with R Kelly? When the Harvey shit went down, people were bitching about POWER. That he used his POWER to exploit poor, innocent white women to get pussy. R Kelly preyed underage girls. Harvey had dingbats coming to his hotel room at 1am to discuss business. His current trial is a fucking joke. A girl who fucked with him for years accusing him of sexual assault.

Harvey is a creep. R Kelly did criminal shit. Big difference. Talking about dumb ass white women who put themselves in stupid positions vs black children. Anyone making the comparison between R Kelly and Harvey needs their asses kicked.

perfect example of the social ignorance I was writing about earlier - most of y'all are uninformed as to the extent of Weinstein's accusations- because media was never interested in reporting or putting a white face to the crimes he is accused of. - Worse "they" choose to go after him with a bullshit case instead of the real stuff
And by indicting him in NYC it delays the UK and France from asking for extradition to face real prosecution of rape and other crimes in those countries

They love to go all in with true or unfounded info for a dark face but are socially responsible on reporting on whitey

best way to avoid media reporting on your crime?
be a white rapist or run a pedofile sex ring

This is the part that baffles me. Dude was up for an NAACP Image award, even though the public was aware of that video's existence! WTF?!

Happy People= $
$ = open legs at NAACP, UNCF etc

If it makes any difference to any of ya'll, Brian Singer is back in the news.

https://variety.com/2019/biz/news/bryan-singer-allegations-sex-underage-boys-1203115090/

I will say i find it interesting that as of now, he is attached to a new project.

in the last 10 years thus guy was kicked off of a project for accusations of pedo - minimum reporting no TV
got back with the XMen project
got kicked off Xmen for more pedo accusation - minimum reporting no TV
then got the Queen project - now might win an oscar
and now has even MORE pedo accusations

but @respiration - doesn't see there being any difference or bias in how this stuff is being covered / reported on

 

[xxxbishopxxx]

Surprised no one brought up Victor Siva...powder and Jeepers Creepers.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-pedophile-director-embraced-by-hollywood

 

[xxxbishopxxx]

You definitely don't know who was...
Weinstein still has his money and access to power - wait till you see the fuckery that going to happen when his trial starts to move forward
bullshit - you either blind or brainwashed
too many of y'all sleep walking

I KNOW that you have absolutely no clue the extent of what Weinstein is accused of
why?
because the media isn't interested in reporting it - outside of a select few famous names.
and now -you never hear people repeat how he is accused of performing at least 2 or 3 home invasion / break ins followed by rape in at least 2 different countries

REALLY fucking compare the reporting and media bias on Weinstein Singer et al - vs Cosby and even Kelly
The media paid WAY more attention to RKelly trial than Woody Allen's divorce and multiple pedo accusations that surfaced in the court

Just let me know when any of these white guys get a dedicated 2 year pageant of victims with media using documented perjurers and well known liars on primetime tv news and tabloids etc - to keep pushing a predator narrative towards a white face

or when any of these guys get anything even close to an emotionally manipulative 6 part documentary targeting them
Most any of those dudes get is a 10 to 20 minute segment on 20/20 Dateline - shit PBS with a limited budget gives more time and reporting

Have we seen a special with every 'alleged' victim of Weinstein on a stage or at a single photo shoot yet?


ostracize them and anyone that chooses to rock with them

but money talks and morals walk


perfect example of the social ignorance I was writing about earlier - most of y'all are uninformed as to the extent of Weinstein's accusations- because media was never interested in reporting or putting a white face to the crimes he is accused of. - Worse "they" choose to go after him with a bullshit case instead of the real stuff
And by indicting him in NYC it delays the UK and France from asking for extradition to face real prosecution of rape and other crimes in those countries

They love to go all in with true or unfounded info for a dark face but are socially responsible on reporting on whitey

best way to avoid media reporting on your crime?
be a white rapist or run a pedofile sex ring

Happy People= $
$ = open legs at NAACP, UNCF etc
in the last 10 years thus guy was kicked off of a project for accusations of pedo - minimum reporting no TV
got back with the XMen project
got kicked off Xmen for more pedo accusation - minimum reporting no TV
then got the Queen project - now might win an oscar
and now has even MORE pedo accusations

but @respiration - doesn't see there being any difference or bias in how this stuff is being covered / reported on

As of now, he is close or attached to the Red Sonja reboot.

 

[tallblacknyc]

You definitely don't know who was...
Weinstein still has his money and access to power - wait till you see the fuckery that going to happen when his trial starts to move forward
bullshit - you either blind or brainwashed
too many of y'all sleep walking

I KNOW that you have absolutely no clue the extent of what Weinstein is accused of
why?
because the media isn't interested in reporting it - outside of a select few famous names.
and now -you never hear people repeat how he is accused of performing at least 2 or 3 home invasion / break ins followed by rape in at least 2 different countries

REALLY fucking compare the reporting and media bias on Weinstein Singer et al - vs Cosby and even Kelly
The media paid WAY more attention to RKelly trial than Woody Allen's divorce and multiple pedo accusations that surfaced in the court

Just let me know when any of these white guys get a dedicated 2 year pageant of victims with media using documented perjurers and well known liars on primetime tv news and tabloids etc - to keep pushing a predator narrative towards a white face

or when any of these guys get anything even close to an emotionally manipulative 6 part documentary targeting them
Most any of those dudes get is a 10 to 20 minute segment on 20/20 Dateline - shit PBS with a limited budget gives more time and reporting

Have we seen a special with every 'alleged' victim of Weinstein on a stage or at a single photo shoot yet?


ostracize them and anyone that chooses to rock with them

but money talks and morals walk


perfect example of the social ignorance I was writing about earlier - most of y'all are uninformed as to the extent of Weinstein's accusations- because media was never interested in reporting or putting a white face to the crimes he is accused of. - Worse "they" choose to go after him with a bullshit case instead of the real stuff
And by indicting him in NYC it delays the UK and France from asking for extradition to face real prosecution of rape and other crimes in those countries

They love to go all in with true or unfounded info for a dark face but are socially responsible on reporting on whitey

best way to avoid media reporting on your crime?
be a white rapist or run a pedofile sex ring

Happy People= $
$ = open legs at NAACP, UNCF etc
in the last 10 years thus guy was kicked off of a project for accusations of pedo - minimum reporting no TV
got back with the XMen project
got kicked off Xmen for more pedo accusation - minimum reporting no TV
then got the Queen project - now might win an oscar
and now has even MORE pedo accusations

but @respiration - doesn't see there being any difference or bias in how this stuff is being covered / reported on

s hit boyfucker singer was getting called a pedo back when the movie apt pupil was being made...nig got at least 23 yrs of boy rape under his belt yet he juss won an award a few weeks ago

 

[keone]

So right on time.

Thank you!

This is a really deep statement that could really stir the pot. You are correct. I'll just leave it at that.

i mean in the bill cosby thread i said cool they got bill now put the same energy behind weinstein and someone told me dont deflect to the white man ahha.

[/Q
look at this shit here smh fuck this bitch

Put this shit on a T shirt.

UOTE]

 

[ansatsusha_gouki]

Bryan Singer Accused of Sexually Abusing Numerous Underage Boys ...
Vanity Fair-6 hours ago
Bohemian Rhapsody Director Bryan Singer Accused of Sexually ...
PEOPLE.com-6 hours ago

Bryan Singer Hit With New Allegations of Sexual Abuse and ...
Vulture-6 hours ago

I find it hard to believe Rami Malek didn't know about Bryan Singer's accusations...Lets see,how the media deal with Bryan Singer's third accusation...I didnt even know,he was accused all the way in 1997....lol..

 

[keone]

You definitely don't know who was...
Weinstein still has his money and access to power - wait till you see the fuckery that going to happen when his trial starts to move forward
bullshit - you either blind or brainwashed
too many of y'all sleep walking

I KNOW that you have absolutely no clue the extent of what Weinstein is accused of
why?
because the media isn't interested in reporting it - outside of a select few famous names.
and now -you never hear people repeat how he is accused of performing at least 2 or 3 home invasion / break ins followed by rape in at least 2 different countries

REALLY fucking compare the reporting and media bias on Weinstein Singer et al - vs Cosby and even Kelly
The media paid WAY more attention to RKelly trial than Woody Allen's divorce and multiple pedo accusations that surfaced in the court

Just let me know when any of these white guys get a dedicated 2 year pageant of victims with media using documented perjurers and well known liars on primetime tv news and tabloids etc - to keep pushing a predator narrative towards a white face

or when any of these guys get anything even close to an emotionally manipulative 6 part documentary targeting them
Most any of those dudes get is a 10 to 20 minute segment on 20/20 Dateline - shit PBS with a limited budget gives more time and reporting

Have we seen a special with every 'alleged' victim of Weinstein on a stage or at a single photo shoot yet?


ostracize them and anyone that chooses to rock with them

but money talks and morals walk


perfect example of the social ignorance I was writing about earlier - most of y'all are uninformed as to the extent of Weinstein's accusations- because media was never interested in reporting or putting a white face to the crimes he is accused of. - Worse "they" choose to go after him with a bullshit case instead of the real stuff
And by indicting him in NYC it delays the UK and France from asking for extradition to face real prosecution of rape and other crimes in those countries

They love to go all in with true or unfounded info for a dark face but are socially responsible on reporting on whitey

best way to avoid media reporting on your crime?
be a white rapist or run a pedofile sex ring

Happy People= $
$ = open legs at NAACP, UNCF etc
in the last 10 years thus guy was kicked off of a project for accusations of pedo - minimum reporting no TV
got back with the XMen project
got kicked off Xmen for more pedo accusation - minimum reporting no TV
then got the Queen project - now might win an oscar
and now has even MORE pedo accusations

but @respiration - doesn't see there being any difference or bias in how this stuff is being covered / reported on

thank you, people act like they dont know how the game is played. if weinstein get of or comes out he is going to be back in business.
my cousin told me something about a banker who fucked people out of their money. they kicked him out of his own bank.
he went to a rich buddy of his started a company through his son and he is running it and it was legal.
he is rich again.

 

[keone]

I find it hard to believe Rami Malek didn't know about Bryan Singer's accusations...Lets see,how the media deal with Bryan Singer's third accusation...I didnt even know,he was accused all the way in 1997....lol..

bryant singer story comes and goes. dude had a documentary out on him hollywood was trying to dead it.
i think a boy even committed suicide in his case. dude has crazy pictures out and nobody cared.
did you see his shit on lifetime channel?

 

[keone]

Who did we throw under the bus?

See we let peeps like R Kelly slide for decades... and who paid the price for that? Young black girls.

We gotta police ourselves regardless of what cacs be doing.

nobody is saying we shouldnt police ourselves.
shitt bill cosby was sleeping with white women and he got the same treatment.
look how hard that cac comedian went on cosby but as soon as harvey shit came out he was silent.

 

[ViCiouS]

thank you, people act like they dont know how the game is played. if weinstein get of or comes out he is going to be back in business.
my cousin told me something about a banker who fucked people out of their money. they kicked him out of his own bank.
he went to a rich buddy of his started a company through his son and he is running it and it was legal.
he is rich again.

A Savings and Loan Bailout, and Bush's Son Jeb - The New York Times
The Bush family and the S&L (Savings and Loan) Scandal

 

[ViCiouS]

Who did we throw under the bus?

See we let peeps like R Kelly slide for decades... and who paid the price for that? Young black girls.

We gotta police ourselves regardless of what cacs be doing.

fuck anything you want to say about our community policing itself - thats the gospel of sheep and lemmings - "WE" didn't let Kelly slide

Be very clear about it - Jews (music industry) and young (at the time) urban women profited off or supported Kelly for decades
I can't look at my church or my neighbors or my elders as blame worthy -
but I can look at the entertainment industry and the parents of these victims and
sycophants surrounding Kelly - I can look at all the women that said idgaf when the sex tape dropped -
I can point a finger directly at BET and every sponsor behind Kelly tours and shows ....

as for the young black girls- I 've accepted a while ago a simple fact

some people were born and given parents that just ain't shit....

 

[militantmidget]

Yup she is right that's what we inclusief @tallblacknyc was saying

That's why white people get away with shit cause their own people be silent putting them in hall of fame or giving them awards

But we will throw our own under the bus
But white people will grill us but leave their own people alone

Mooney spoke on it alot

Oh and we only throw our own under the bus when we're told to by them people. Lifetime (aka it's the man's fault channel) said R Kelly is the bad guy so social media in turn follows along. But no one talks about how 90% of the ppl in that documentary was SMILING with the nigga when them checks was clearing.

Once the money got low, niggas got crocodile tears talking about how wrong R Kelly was. BITCH/NIGGA you was right there with the nigga while he was doing the crime!

R Kelly ain't shit. I'm not denying that. But this fake outrage is only directed at R Kelly while saying everyone else was a victim. It's alot of complicit ppl in this shit.

Sparkle
Sparkle's parents
Aaliyah's parents
Security
Band members
Managers
Parents of these girls
Record Company (who kept him signed after that Aaliyah btw)
ALOTTA music artists/producers that seen how he got down in the studio and on tours
R Kelly Wife (Mrs. I was in the house seeing these young girls but I didn't know what was goin on)

U mad at R Kelly?...cool. Be mad at all the above too.

 

[militantmidget]

A Savings and Loan Bailout, and Bush's Son Jeb - The New York Times
The Bush family and the S&L (Savings and Loan) Scandal

Donald Sterling made 2.1 Billion dollars for being a racist...nuff said

 

[jack walsh13]

Cause you look man enough for the job

 

[geechiedan]

Oh and we only throw our own under the bus when we're told to by them people. Lifetime (aka it's the man's fault channel) said R Kelly is the bad guy so social media in turn follows along. But no one talks about how 90% of the ppl in that documentary was SMILING with the nigga when them checks was clearing.

Once the money got low, niggas got crocodile tears talking about how wrong R Kelly was. BITCH/NIGGA you was right there with the nigga while he was doing the crime!

R Kelly ain't shit. I'm not denying that. But this fake outrage is only directed at R Kelly while saying everyone else was a victim. It's alot of complicit ppl in this shit.

Sparkle
Sparkle's parents
Aaliyah's parents
Security
Band members
Managers
Parents of these girls
Record Company (who kept him signed after that Aaliyah btw)
ALOTTA music artists/producers that seen how he got down in the studio and on tours
R Kelly Wife (Mrs. I was in the house seeing these young girls but I didn't know what was goin on)

U mad at R Kelly?...cool. Be mad at all the above too.

well if she's the kid in question then you can't be mad at her because kids do stupid shit and make stupid decisions..thats why adults have to advocate for them. Everyone else on that list is complicit AF and should get called out for that shit I agree.

 

[AllUniverse17]

fuck anything you want to say about our community policing itself - thats the gospel of sheep and lemmings - "WE" didn't let Kelly slide

Be very clear about it - Jews (music industry) and young (at the time) urban women profited off or supported Kelly for decades
I can't look at my church or my neighbors or my elders as blame worthy -
but I can look at the entertainment industry and the parents of these victims and
sycophants surrounding Kelly - I can look at all the women that said idgaf when the sex tape dropped -
I can point a finger directly at BET and every sponsor behind Kelly tours and shows ....

as for the young black girls- I 've accepted a while ago a simple fact

some people were born and given parents that just ain't shit....

Im not into this passing the buck shit you on right now.

You can look at all the women who said idgaf when the tape dropped but you somehow CANT look at the men who said the EXACT same thing?

Do you believe that we should be there for our women or dont you?

And by the way, you know why sponsors and music execs stayed supporting him? Its because all of his FANS stayed by his side, buying his music and going to shows, knowing what he was doing. Thats not just women, its men too.

 

[militantmidget]

well if she's the kid in question then you can't be mad at her because kids do stupid shit and make stupid decisions..thats why adults have to advocate for them. Everyone else on that list is complicit AF and should get called out for that shit I agree.

I'm paraphrasing here but, Sparkle on the breakfast club said R Kelly told her parents he wanted to beat off cuz their daughter (Sparkle was 14-15 at the time) was so beautiful.

What niggas you know that wouldn't beat up/kill a nigga for saying that to their daughter IN FRONT OF THEM?

Sparkle kept working with R Kelly after that.

Sparkle left her husband from public announcement to get with R Kelly. R Kelly was the lead singer for public announcement. The bitch was out there fucking her husband's band mate.

Not only that, but she introduced her NIECE to R Kelly (the same nigga she slept with, did music with).

But Sparkle is the victim?!

Sparkle knew the nigga R Kelly liked young girls. She just thought as long as it wasn't her family, them girls was fair game. She was with all that shit as long as them hit records kept coming.

Some people will knowingly smile with you and your demons as long as that paper is right. Soon as the money get low, niggas get on TV and talk shit about the guy they was in the video with (Sparkle in the video singing with this nigga).

 

[gene cisco]

You definitely don't know who was...
Weinstein still has his money and access to power - wait till you see the fuckery that going to happen when his trial starts to move forward
bullshit - you either blind or brainwashed
too many of y'all sleep walking

I KNOW that you have absolutely no clue the extent of what Weinstein is accused of
why?
because the media isn't interested in reporting it - outside of a select few famous names.
and now -you never hear people repeat how he is accused of performing at least 2 or 3 home invasion / break ins followed by rape in at least 2 different countries

REALLY fucking compare the reporting and media bias on Weinstein Singer et al - vs Cosby and even Kelly
The media paid WAY more attention to RKelly trial than Woody Allen's divorce and multiple pedo accusations that surfaced in the court

Just let me know when any of these white guys get a dedicated 2 year pageant of victims with media using documented perjurers and well known liars on primetime tv news and tabloids etc - to keep pushing a predator narrative towards a white face

or when any of these guys get anything even close to an emotionally manipulative 6 part documentary targeting them
Most any of those dudes get is a 10 to 20 minute segment on 20/20 Dateline - shit PBS with a limited budget gives more time and reporting

Have we seen a special with every 'alleged' victim of Weinstein on a stage or at a single photo shoot yet?


ostracize them and anyone that chooses to rock with them

but money talks and morals walk


perfect example of the social ignorance I was writing about earlier - most of y'all are uninformed as to the extent of Weinstein's accusations- because media was never interested in reporting or putting a white face to the crimes he is accused of. - Worse "they" choose to go after him with a bullshit case instead of the real stuff
And by indicting him in NYC it delays the UK and France from asking for extradition to face real prosecution of rape and other crimes in those countries

They love to go all in with true or unfounded info for a dark face but are socially responsible on reporting on whitey

best way to avoid media reporting on your crime?
be a white rapist or run a pedofile sex ring

Happy People= $
$ = open legs at NAACP, UNCF etc
in the last 10 years thus guy was kicked off of a project for accusations of pedo - minimum reporting no TV
got back with the XMen project
got kicked off Xmen for more pedo accusation - minimum reporting no TV
then got the Queen project - now might win an oscar
and now has even MORE pedo accusations

but @respiration - doesn't see there being any difference or bias in how this stuff is being covered / reported on

You're correct. I only seen the bullshit stories from stupid cac bitches about Harvey. Mostly, it was white women having the personal responsibility. The one black women also came with some bullshit. She went to his bedroom alone because she didn't want to argue in front of his child.

So they trying to save white men from being the face of this while at the same time they treat white women as babies? Come on now. They are passing laws as we speak to further empower white women. Basically, they will be able to go back years And who do you think they will be accusing 9 times out of 10? Cac men.

 

[ViCiouS]

You can look at all the women who said idgaf when the tape dropped but you somehow CANT look at the men who said the EXACT same thing?

in my social travels since that tape came out and various other shit was rumored about Best of Both Worlds Tour - no matter barber shop, mechanic / garage bars / parties, work / water cooler, bbq, church events, planes buses and trains, whatever /where ever

I didn't meet a man who said idgaf about Kelly - not one

cont...

And by the way, you know why sponsors and music execs stayed supporting him? Its because all of his FANS stayed by his side, buying his music and going to shows, knowing what he was doing. Thats not just women, its men too.

the ONLY men I ever came across that said idgaf re: Kelly
were in the music industry and they were directly making money off of Kelly
or they were gay
or both

Do you believe that we should be there for our women or dont you?

1. what kind of estrogen fueled question is this? by what logic did you get to this question based on my last post?
2. In any case -how are we supposed to support women when they don't even support themselves?
even after the doc -I'm seeing a strong corp of women aggressively defending Kelly

Pay attention to the podcasts radio this week etc and you'll notice a softening in tone this week because they are getting real smoke from large numbers of black women (or you will be hearing about how forgiving the women in our community are etc etc)

Im not into this passing the buck shit you on right now.

be honest - set aside the pc propaganda - what demo overwhelmingly watches BET?
what demo keeps buying his music and is in his shows?

Do you imagine the part our community buying NBA tickets are also lining up to buy Kelly concert tickets?
In your imagination can you see the elder big hat sunday crowd at church buying his concert tickets and posters?
Are you going in to barber shops for almost 2 decades now hearing men of all ages going hard defending Kelly or empathizing with his plight?

the answer to all of the above is hell fucking no...
(in my hood the barbers I know would invite you leave after you said some bullshit about supporting RKelly - only people that could get a pass on that would be women in there for a line up or eyebrows)

But the first thing out of you is we need better policing of this as a community, followed by a litany of feminist talking points

 

[ViCiouS]

The one black women also came with some bullshit. She went to his bedroom alone because she didn't want to argue in front of his child.

that story stinks to high heaven -
I'm willing to bet money Lupita sucked n fucked Harv to get put on....

 

[gene cisco]

that story stinks to high heaven -
I'm willing to bet money Lupita sucked n fucked Harv to get put on....

Most of the stories defy logic. I remember one when he was banging on the hotel door after midnight and they opened it. White women come up with the strangest shit, so it surprised me when Lupita came up with the whitest excuse for going to the bedroom. And then when she said she met up with him again.