Central Heating & Air Unit $$$$$$$$$$ & more in 2020

[2nd 1st Time]

Mine went out gotta have it it’s the middle of winter that mofo set me back $6700.00 for 1600 sq ft house & installers said that was a deal anyway In 2020 government made it mandatory to go to a more environmentally friendly Freon so any leak or repair to any units that require Freon you will have to get a new unit after 2020 now you up on thang so start save no now $$$

 

[g0nbad real bad]

Average price for 5 ton installed around here is about $5,000. Had to get one for my house and moms in the last couple years.. New heat pumps come with R-410A its cheaper than the old R22.

 

[MisterT]

A lot of R22 which was the go-to refrigerant for most residential cooling units. There are laws ending them manufacture of R22 but most repair outlets have enough on hand to last for a few years. As long as some is available, it can be used, and it never spoils. I just recently sold a 30 pound tank of R12 and they stopped the manufacture of that 20 years ago. I would not recommend buying a new unit that operated on R22, but even if you did, you'd find adequate supplies for at least a few years and once you couldn't there is refrigerant R453A which is touted as a drop-in replacement. You could just evacuate the unit of the remaining R22 and fill with the new juice. Even the oil can remain. Also 6700 dollars is ridiculously expensive for a new furnace and AC unit for a 1600 sq, ft, house. Even for an expensive brand such as Carrier you'd be 0ne to two thousand too high.

 

[MisterT]

Average price for 5 ton installed around here is about $5,000. Had to get one for my house and moms in the last couple years.. New heat pumps come with R-410A its cheaper than the old R22.

That's why he paid far too much. A five ton unit is WAYYY too big for a 1600 sq. ft. house under any conditions! Closer to 3 tons would be about right for his house.

 

[eatcake]

Just went off on the deep end myself 3 1/2 ton with a 16 SEER rating with an air scrubber along with air purification 7,000.00 they got there at 9 and gone by 3...well worth it to me...both carrier in and out

 

[doggish_098]

So mine went out a few years ago had it replaced through the program at my utility company basically adding the cost of it to my bill over time in monthly installments. Anyone within a month or two something went wrong with it simple repair nothing major. Don’t you know after that they never charged me for it

 

[trstar]

This is a great post

 

[Texas Catdaddy]

Dodged a bullet, cleaned the flame sensor .....

 

[doe moe]

My unit is 16 years old. (Crib built in 2003) House is 1600 sqft.

So far heat is going strong. However, AC is not cooling as effectively. I may have to replace this year.

Lots of good info in this thread!

Those that recently replaced unit how old was it before failing?

 

[2nd 1st Time]

That's why he paid far too much. A five ton unit is WAYYY too big for a 1600 sq. ft. house under any conditions! Closer to 3 tons would be about right for his house.

It’s a Bryant 2.5

My unit is 16 years old. (Crib built in 2003) House is 1600 sqft.

So far heat is going strong. However, AC is not cooling as effectively. I may have to replace this year.

Lots of good info in this thread!

Those that recently replaced unit how old was it before failing?

mine was 13 yrs go ahead replace it newer ones use less electricity or gas to run & blow out more air & heat

 

[Famous1]

My unit is 16 years old. (Crib built in 2003) House is 1600 sqft.

So far heat is going strong. However, AC is not cooling as effectively. I may have to replace this year.

Lots of good info in this thread!

Those that recently replaced unit how old was it before failing?

AHS.
American Home Shield my brother...thank me later.

 

[jagu]

Just went off on the deep end myself 3 1/2 ton with a 16 SEER rating with an air scrubber along with air purification 7,000.00 they got there at 9 and gone by 3...well worth it to me...both carrier in and out

I'm building a new full custom home this year and I have told the builder that he must install Carrier or nothing.

 

[Famous1]

I'm building a new full custom home this year and I have told the builder that he must install Carrier or nothing.

Have you had your house pre tested?
Trane, Lennox , and Carrier arevthe top brands and they all have different traits that make them work better in certain situations. Have an A/C company that installs all three come out and do some testing and go over the results with them...... wit yo cocky ass...

 

[eatcake]

I 1st considered Trane ....however what sold me on the Carrier units was the parts were universal and that the Trane you might have to wait for a part to get in whenever its in need of repair

 

[jagu]

Have you had your house pre tested?
Trane, Lennox , and Carrier arevthe top brands and they all have different traits that make them work better in certain situations. Have an A/C company that installs all three come out and do some testing and go over the results with them...... wit yo cocky ass...

I'm using an architect and a real licensed builder who knows what to do. A graduate of GA Tech, not an apprentice of yours.
My current AC is Carrier and it's 15 years old with no problem. I always stay with what works.
I have researched the 2 stage Carrier and that's what I'm getting if it's okay with you.

 

[killagram]

Mine went out gotta have it it’s the middle of winter that mofo set me back $6700.00 for 1600 sq ft house & installers said that was a deal anyway In 2020 government made it mandatory to go to a more environmentally friendly Freon so any leak or repair to any units that require Freon you will have to get a new unit after 2020 now you up on thang so start save no now $$$

Average price for 5 ton installed around here is about $5,000. Had to get one for my house and moms in the last couple years.. New heat pumps come with R-410A its cheaper than the old R22.

A lot of R22 which was the go-to refrigerant for most residential cooling units. There are laws ending them manufacture of R22 but most repair outlets have enough on hand to last for a few years. As long as some is available, it can be used, and it never spoils. I just recently sold a 30 pound tank of R12 and they stopped the manufacture of that 20 years ago. I would not recommend buying a new unit that operated on R22, but even if you did, you'd find adequate supplies for at least a few years and once you couldn't there is refrigerant R453A which is touted as a drop-in replacement. You could just evacuate the unit of the remaining R22 and fill with the new juice. Even the oil can remain. Also 6700 dollars is ridiculously expensive for a new furnace and AC unit for a 1600 sq, ft, house. Even for an expensive brand such as Carrier you'd be 0ne to two thousand too high.

That's why he paid far too much. A five ton unit is WAYYY too big for a 1600 sq. ft. house under any conditions! Closer to 3 tons would be about right for his house.

Just went off on the deep end myself 3 1/2 ton with a 16 SEER rating with an air scrubber along with air purification 7,000.00 they got there at 9 and gone by 3...well worth it to me...both carrier in and out

So mine went out a few years ago had it replaced through the program at my utility company basically adding the cost of it to my bill over time in monthly installments. Anyone within a month or two something went wrong with it simple repair nothing major. Don’t you know after that they never charged me for it

It’s a Bryant 2.5

mine was 13 yrs go ahead replace it newer ones use less electricity or gas to run & blow out more air & heat

Have you had your house pre tested?
Trane, Lennox , and Carrier arevthe top brands and they all have different traits that make them work better in certain situations. Have an A/C company that installs all three come out and do some testing and go over the results with them...... wit yo cocky ass...

I'm using an architect and a real licensed builder who knows what to do. A graduate of GA Tech, not an apprentice of yours.
My current AC is Carrier and it's 15 years old with no problem. I always stay with what works.
I have researched the 2 stage Carrier and that's what I'm getting if it's okay with you.

I'm the muffuckin man around these parts..you getting fucked if you spent that much...I do 2.5 Ton GOODMAN upflow gas furnaces with matching condenser outside with copper line set change out from r22 to 410a freon...all Fuckin day 3600.00 and I'm gone in 3 hours.. I have done 12 in a day with my crew...brah

 

[Muttley]

bump

 

[killagram]

I'm using an architect and a real licensed builder who knows what to do. A graduate of GA Tech, not an apprentice of yours.
My current AC is Carrier and it's 15 years old with no problem. I always stay with what works.
I have researched the 2 stage Carrier and that's what I'm getting if it's okay with you.

Carrier is good shit..a good Hvac system should last 19 years..on the low side...I install Lennox..cause I'm a vendor...but GOODMAN is my go to..I have seen GOODMAN go for 24 years with average maintenance.. brah

 

[killagram]

I 1st considered Trane ....however what sold me on the Carrier units was the parts were universal and that the Trane you might have to wait for a part to get in whenever its in need of repair

Trane has a bad problem with orifices right now...brah

 

[doe moe]

I'm the muffuckin man around these parts..you getting fucked if you spent that much...I do 2.5 Ton GOODMAN upflow gas furnaces with matching condenser outside with copper line set change out from r22 to 410a freon...all Fuckin day 3600.00 and I'm gone in 3 hours.. I have done 12 in a day with my crew...brah

 

[EPDC]

We installed a whole new AC unit two years ago. Our home is two stories, 2400 square feet. Came out to $7600.

 

[killagram]

Mine went out gotta have it it’s the middle of winter that mofo set me back $6700.00 for 1600 sq ft house & installers said that was a deal anyway In 2020 government made it mandatory to go to a more environmentally friendly Freon so any leak or repair to any units that require Freon you will have to get a new unit after 2020 now you up on thang so start save no now $$$

Actually r22 been out the pic on the equipment side for years...shit is bad. Cause when it goes...u gotta change out the acoil and the line set..brah

 

[doe moe]

We installed a whole new AC unit two years ago. Our home is two stories, 2400 square feet. Came out to $7600.

Did they replace the ductwork as well?

 

[EPDC]

Did they replace the ductwork as well?

Yes

 

[killagram]

Trust me...we do big shit round here..after the pump down...it's over...let me guess...u then seen some CACS show up and take all day..huh? We have wired electrically brand new houses 2576 sq.feet 3 in a day...we don't fuck around...brah

 

[killagram]

Did they replace the ductwork as well?

You don't have to...if it's hard piping all the way... shit last forever...if it's flex..it's gonna collapse..brah

 

[EPDC]

My unit is 16 years old. (Crib built in 2003) House is 1600 sqft.

So far heat is going strong. However, AC is not cooling as effectively. I may have to replace this year.

Lots of good info in this thread!

Those that recently replaced unit how old was it before failing?

Mine failed after 16 years. Our home was built in 2001, we replaced it in 2017.

We live in Florida and the AC is used daily.

 

[killagram]

Did they replace the ductwork as well?

And that was a good price..I can't do a job for that..brah

 

[killagram]

Mine failed after 16 years. Our home was built in 2001, we replaced it in 2017.

We live in Florida and the AC is used daily.

How much maintenance did you do? How many time did u clean the acoil? How many times did u clean the condenser coils? Did you have a line drier on it..brah?

 

[killagram]

Brother Killagram, when replacing an HVAC unit do you recommend replacing the ductwork?

If under 20 years old...naw..but if over and have flex piping yes

 

[killagram]

Did they replace the ductwork as well?

Let me let you in on a lil secret..go to your nearest 5 star apartment complex..find one of them lil kniccas riding in a golf cart.. yall call em maintenance men..I call em shawts... befriend him..he's dam good at replacing units and stealing em from his job...for the low...hes a licensed refrigeration man..brah

 

[EPDC]

How much maintenance did you do? How many time did u clean the acoil? How many times did u clean the condenser coils? Did you have a line drier on it..brah?

Honestly didn’t do any with the one that failed. We bought the house/moved in June 2016. The AC died on us about a year later, May 2017.

The new one we have had it maintained once so far, and every few months we pour white vinegar down the AC drain pipe to clean it out.

We got a ten year warranty on our joint. Trying to make sure it lasts.

 

[killagram]

Honestly didn’t do any with the one that failed. We bought the house/moved in June 2016. The AC died on us about a year later, May 2017.

The new one we have had it maintained once so far, and every few months we pour white vinegar down the AC drain pipe to clean it out.

We got a ten year warranty on our joint. Trying to make sure it lasts.

Vinegar and the drain ain't givin u mo life...go to lowes and buy a coil cleaner for condenser and acoil..let me know..I can help guide u through it brah

 

[EPDC]

Vinegar and the drain ain't givin u mo life...go to lowes and buy a coil cleaner for condenser and acoil..let me know..I can help guide u through it brah

Thanks man, will do. Shit sucks to lose AC in the middle of May in FL. Not trying to go through that again.

 

[eatcake]

man American Home Shield aint worth a fuck ......have a claim on your shyt heating or A/C if you did no preventive maint on your units (and in a lotta cases even if you did ) THEY WILL NOT pay you are much better off ho0oking up with a HVAC company and get a warranty Maint plan thru them