The Primitive Black nation of America in 1832 by Professor Constantine Rafinesque

apparently a lot of his work can be found in harvard...

just more proof this information is well known throughout,

established academia, and is purposely kept away from our children

so we can stay lost in the columbus discovered america and we were only slaves in this country myth....

the truth is slowly seeping out....

Bullshit homie, true we were here before cacs but the vast majority came on slave ships.
Regardless how the fuck we got here. The real question is how to deal with the cac. A lot of this Black native American vs Slave trade talk is a distraction. Usually bought up by negroes scared to deal with the white man and women and the reality we face as a black African people.
 
Bullshit homie, true we were here before cacs but the vast majority came on slave ships.
Regardless how the fuck we got here. The real question is how to deal with the cac. A lot of this Black native American vs Slave trade talk is a distraction. Usually bought up by negroes scared to deal with the white man and women and the reality we face as a black African people.

I feel that latter part of your statement... but not the former...

the question nobody answered yet was where did all the slave ships go..

native american/negro were interchangable...

why was the seminole war KNOWN as the "negro" war..??

If they were not one and the same people.... dont allow them to mind fuck you bruh...

there is a reason for them to keep pushing that slave narrative...

it will absolve them of the trillions they owe us for overstaying their welcome...

just think for a minute.. the same muthafuckas trying to convince you that some italian loser discovered america when there were people already here...

and to top it off.. he NEVER even set foot in what is known as america today..

yet the same people who pushed that whole atlantic slave trade narrative are the same muthafuckas STILL teaching our children some italian cat discovered america..

but the asshole thought he was in india...

which is why they called the "black" natives INDIAN....

the folks they try to pass off as indian thier look came from the chinese that crossed the strait and mixed their genes with the "black" natives already here...

you do know LATIN and SPANISH were taught to europeans by so called "negros" right

but you believe what you will... just know our official history has yet to be told...

but its been sold and bought...

that official slave trade narrative is just a authentic as the movie roots was..

which was sold to us as being a true story at first..

facts!!
 
Bullshit homie, true we were here before cacs but the vast majority came on slave ships.
Regardless how the fuck we got here. The real question is how to deal with the cac. A lot of this Black native American vs Slave trade talk is a distraction. Usually bought up by negroes scared to deal with the white man and women and the reality we face as a black African people.

This.
 
The link for the Garden of Eden doesn't lead anywhere. However, I do know what you speak of. The most damaging thing is black people thinking the The Bible (which is just a word for the books) is of white European nature due to the ruling class back in the day depicting the images to look like them. Some of us actually want to know the real truth and some of us ironically want to stay ignorant because it means remaining in a state of mind that doesn't mean to act upon the action of powers that we have.

I once had a discussion with a German scientist and he straight up told me blacks are ignorant to their power and that things have been deliberately reversed. He said it was blacks who gave the cave man knowledge (spirituality) out of the schools of Africa. It clearly shows you this in the Bible. Moses was a pharaoh learned in the high science before being cast out by the Egyptian lineage. This is why he struggled so hard finding God and came back with a different knowledge above what he was taught under the Egyptians. The same source as you said that mankind could do what Jesus did and more(who also tells you this too in the same books). There is some semblance of knowledge being shown in that Black Panthers movie.

I've had white people(the German and also from Hungary) telling me the Garden of Eden was in Africa which I already knew, but it was their arrogance that surprised me as they found it funny how blacks followed a corrupted version of spirituality which if they studied more would see the sleight of hand. The evolution story as noted in that video in the other post is one race's way of trying to figure out where they came from although history shows us. It goes back to humans not having trust in certain history or knowledge. For instance this video below.

Stuff like this I always second guess because it leaves out the intellect and spirituality of man. It doesn't delve into things like the pyramids and those civilizations for a reason. The reason I mentioned already that a German scientist had explained. It's a missing key deliberately.

What was scary I was told this YEARS ago and had knowledge, but what sealed it for me was a show on the history channel soon after having the conversation with the German. I posted part of it in another thread. The lineage and Garden of Eden roots leads back to the Lemba tribe. This was on actual television, but didn't make too much waves for obvious reasons as it turns things upside down.
https://mjbi.org/2017/09/26/lemba-jewish-tribe/

I'm not sold completely on all of this information in the video below, but I do take in how the records of the oral tradition stayed in tact with what is being shown in the books. It shows that it's for the most part correct and not tampered with.


So the most important thing to take from this imo is that blacks had the lineage and knowledge of the books BEFORE the slave trade system in America which then smashes the idea that blacks were forced to learn the bible which some blacks use to ignore the teachings in the book. I stated above already that learned whites have told me that whites (cave man) got spirituality from the schools of Africa which leads right back to things like the Lemba tribe and the break in lineage with pharaoh through Moses who led people out of the region.

It has a lot to do with Rome and how they used spirituality and twisted things along with most likely destroying records to make it hard for some people to believe Yeshua actually lived. I don't know why some rely on the lack of records they have when they were executing people who threatened them to erase them. Josephus the historian is always used either for or against the existence of the movement, but again he was apart of the same system. They obviously couldn't quell the people's belief in the Messiah and decided to use it. It's sort of like how Dr King has now become apart of the government with his message, but we don't hear from that same government certain things King was actually saying to help rise his people. History repeats itself.

The problem I have with Elijah Muhammad and Farrakhan is they also kind of use people's plight to make themselves gods among people especially in the 60's when blacks felt very disenfranchised. The message to be like God is a good one, but my issue is when they try to act like they are beyond reproach or aren't fallible. I get this vibe they are using tactics like Hitler (I AM NOT SAYING THEY ARE HITLER) to get people to follow them. With that said they are at least in deed helping certain people who would be astray which is very good. Wanting to be like God is good, but it's another thing when one wants to be God over people. This is how we got into all of this mess to begin with.

https://www.patreon.com/user?alert=2 It was suppose to lead to my patron page. I just tried it and it went there click on this one and see what it does. But I was checking out some of this you posted again. The stuff on my patron page actually came from blacks all over Africa and the middle east by word of mouth from generation to generation. In the beginning it was only blacks here. It is the origin of life and humanity. But in the beginning it was nothing primitive about it. Some where along the way history had been erased and then rewrote.
When I was in Germany I was surprised when I went by one of the German churches and they had a picture of a snake curdled around a mushroom talking to Eve who was sitting on top of the mushroom. And Adam was standing there telling her not to talk to the snake. I asked them about that and they was saying that it was drugs that took them from the garden. The drug they named was marijuana and they had a drawing on the ceiling showing them smoking a joint. The blacks that have still been trying to keep the truth alive say we only ate raw fruits and vegetables and the foods out of the bee hive. Raw fruits and vegetables have phytonutrients that science discovered so many years ago. Processed food was not used back then. There are secrets to eternal life. But only the black race can lead the way back to this. This present world is temporary overcoming it will be eternal. The first people did not have a word for death because no one was dying. Blacks would probably be so shocked if they could make whites show what they are hiding that has not been destroyed yet like what is hid in areas like area 51. The mothership was said to control the other ufo's and it was blacks that have remained the same since millions of years ago. Some they would do some serious killing before they allow the masses to witness any of this. The whites that did not know what was already going on were shocked also but once they found out they had to either be killed or be sworn to secrecy also.
https://www.patreon.com/user?alert=2 Also when you click on the link you have to click on continue reading on the part Garden Of Eden (TRUE STORY OF GENESIS)
 
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https://www.patreon.com/user?alert=2 It was suppose to lead to my patron page. I just tried it and it went there click on this one and see what it does. But I was checking out some of this you posted again. The stuff on my patron page actually came from blacks all over Africa and the middle east by word of mouth from generation to generation. In the beginning it was only blacks here. It is the origin of life and humanity. But in the beginning it was nothing primitive about it. Some where along the way history had been erased and then rewrote.
When I was in Germany I was surprised when I went by one of the German churches and they had a picture of a snake curdled around a mushroom talking to Eve who was sitting on top of the mushroom. And Adam was standing there telling her not to talk to the snake. I asked them about that and they was saying that it was drugs that took them from the garden. The drug they named was marijuana and they had a drawing on the ceiling showing them smoking a joint. The blacks that have still been trying to keep the truth alive say we only ate raw fruits and vegetables and the foods out of the bee hive. Raw fruits and vegetables have phytonutrients that science discovered so many years ago. Processed food was not used back then. There are secrets to eternal life. But only the black race can lead the way back to this. This present world is temporary overcoming it will be eternal. The first people did not have a word for death because no one was dying. Blacks would probably be so shocked if they could make whites show what they are hiding that has not been destroyed yet like what is hid in areas like area 51. The mothership was said to control the other ufo's and it was blacks that have remained the same since millions of years ago. Some they would do some serious killing before they allow the masses to witness any of this. The whites that did not know what was already going on were shocked also but once they found out they had to either be killed or be sworn to secrecy also.
https://www.patreon.com/user?alert=2 Also when you click on the link you have to click on continue reading on the part Garden Of Eden (TRUE STORY OF GENESIS)

Now I seen that interview with Ice Cube talking about a Mothership, but he didn't go into detail with Sway. I know Farrakhan speaks about this mothership too. I talked about Mars and colonization and why it interests me is that suppose just as we plan to send humans to Mars to start life there that sort of thing could very well be what has us here on earth.

The original man knew the origins obviously, but lost over time with prophets giving hints and knowledge of the origin. Just off coincidence alone it is fascinating it took a black woman to create the math for America to land on the moon.




It is also crazy that this man says they were black people on the moon. I don't know if this is true or not, but it should be noted he didn't try to say it was white people if he wanted to tell a lie. Maybe he was just mistaken, but it is weird just enough.


Then we could look at the history of moon and humans fascination with it or adding it to spirituality.
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Then the moon being represented in hieroglyphics and pyramids being set up across the world way back in time (as if we set up stations on Mars for radio signals etc) and this is all very metaphysical it would seem.
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Some may just scoff at this or end up getting mixed in conspiracy theories screaming illuminati, but then you have to ask yourself why did the American forefathers end up creating things to mimic the original civilizations if people believe they were just primitive?
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Now I seen that interview with Ice Cube talking about a Mothership, but he didn't go into detail with Sway. I know Farrakhan speaks about this mothership too. I talked about Mars and colonization and why it interests me is that suppose just as we plan to send humans to Mars to start life there that sort of thing could very well be what has us here on earth.

The original man knew the origins obviously, but lost over time with prophets giving hints and knowledge of the origin. Just off coincidence alone it is fascinating it took a black woman to create the math for America to land on the moon.




It is also crazy that this man says they were black people on the moon. I don't know if this is true or not, but it should be noted he didn't try to say it was white people if he wanted to tell a lie. Maybe he was just mistaken, but it is weird just enough.


Then we could look at the history of moon and humans fascination with it or adding it to spirituality.
ancient-egyptian-symbols-14-728.jpg



star-david-moon-palestine-israel-450w-734639851.jpg


Then the moon being represented in hieroglyphics and pyramids being set up across the world way back in time (as if we set up stations on Mars for radio signals etc) and this is all very metaphysical it would seem.
1010815_10152419857863471_2977043379092622517_n.jpg


Some may just scoff at this or end up getting mixed in conspiracy theories screaming illuminati, but then you have to ask yourself why did the American forefathers end up creating things to mimic the original civilizations if people believe they were just primitive?
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Where is the interview where Ice Cube spoke about the mothership? With these space programs the main things is that they are secretly investigating what is and was really here and where some things may still be hiding. There is a war going on and they are secretly trying to destroy things that the public can still come into contact with. Just like in Jonestown Jim was not allowing any help to come to those people from being freed from him. They are not allowing us any help from being freed from a white reality and white controlled. It has been told that they already have space paramilitaries complete with rank, and weapons. What the fuck are they attacking that we do not know about? In Israel anytime a ufo is spotted there is always fighter jets in the area trying to destroy it. Same as Puerto Rico and the rest of the Bermuda triangle. There really is war going on that is kept secret from the public. Ronald Reagan was a president that was deep into what ever they got going on. He was the one that put military bases on alert to be sent to South Africa to fight to help Botha genocide the blacks of South Africa. And he spoke several times about times about nations uniting to help fight a force outside of this white reality or empire. It was while he was in office that this so called star wars was mainly being worked on. They put some kind of space station out there to help with a outer space base for killing off any real help to black power.
 
Now I seen that interview with Ice Cube talking about a Mothership, but he didn't go into detail with Sway. I know Farrakhan speaks about this mothership too. I talked about Mars and colonization and why it interests me is that suppose just as we plan to send humans to Mars to start life there that sort of thing could very well be what has us here on earth.

The original man knew the origins obviously, but lost over time with prophets giving hints and knowledge of the origin. Just off coincidence alone it is fascinating it took a black woman to create the math for America to land on the moon.




It is also crazy that this man says they were black people on the moon. I don't know if this is true or not, but it should be noted he didn't try to say it was white people if he wanted to tell a lie. Maybe he was just mistaken, but it is weird just enough.


Then we could look at the history of moon and humans fascination with it or adding it to spirituality.
ancient-egyptian-symbols-14-728.jpg



star-david-moon-palestine-israel-450w-734639851.jpg


Then the moon being represented in hieroglyphics and pyramids being set up across the world way back in time (as if we set up stations on Mars for radio signals etc) and this is all very metaphysical it would seem.
1010815_10152419857863471_2977043379092622517_n.jpg


Some may just scoff at this or end up getting mixed in conspiracy theories screaming illuminati, but then you have to ask yourself why did the American forefathers end up creating things to mimic the original civilizations if people believe they were just primitive?
Dollar%20bill_0.JPG


Then the moon being represented in hieroglyphics and pyramids being set up across the world way back in time (as if we set up stations on Mars for radio signals etc) and this is all very metaphysical it would seem.
1010815_10152419857863471_2977043379092622517_n.jpg


Some may just scoff at this or end up getting mixed in conspiracy theories screaming illuminati, but then you have to ask yourself why did the American forefathers end up creating things to mimic the original civilizations if people believe they were just primitive?
Dollar%20bill_0.JPG

Yes that mimic has a reason. They say that they hid the truth but also that they practice the truth in secrecy. I was watching one documentary where it was stating and saying Queen Elizabeth eats vegan in private but meat in front of the public. But the Rothschild actually interbreed to keep the money in the blood line. Some would say this is sick but where did we learn family life and how to look at it a certain way. It was implanted by whites. Whites that rule do not live like whites that are ruled. I could say a lot about it but people would not understand where I am coming from especially if they have an artificial mind and do not know it or recognize it.
 
Where is the interview where Ice Cube spoke about the mothership? With these space programs the main things is that they are secretly investigating what is and was really here and where some things may still be hiding. There is a war going on and they are secretly trying to destroy things that the public can still come into contact with. Just like in Jonestown Jim was not allowing any help to come to those people from being freed from him. They are not allowing us any help from being freed from a white reality and white controlled. It has been told that they already have space paramilitaries complete with rank, and weapons. What the fuck are they attacking that we do not know about? In Israel anytime a ufo is spotted there is always fighter jets in the area trying to destroy it. Same as Puerto Rico and the rest of the Bermuda triangle. There really is war going on that is kept secret from the public. Ronald Reagan was a president that was deep into what ever they got going on. He was the one that put military bases on alert to be sent to South Africa to fight to help Botha genocide the blacks of South Africa. And he spoke several times about times about nations uniting to help fight a force outside of this white reality or empire. It was while he was in office that this so called star wars was mainly being worked on. They put some kind of space station out there to help with a outer space base for killing off any real help to black power.

Interesting posts being made under that Ice Cube Video that I think relates to what you are saying!!
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afrikan people are a direct kin to a powerful ancient race that founded the earth about 200,00 years ago along with its slowly evolving native hominids(caucasians). These people are referred to in many different cultures, Greek mythology, Norse mythology, but the most accurate is Egyptian(Khemtian) mythology it could even be referred to as history if you wanna take it there. Sumerians refer to them as Annunaki, but what an afrikan sage might call them is something different that I know nothing of. Also the game Assassins creed the video game even has a fiction story that they have fun with on there that’s quite interesting in their “game universe” they call them The Isu. To make it simple think of Thor and the asgardians, but all dark with dreads, and braids picture Wakanda on steroids lol
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Timestamp from 6:14
 
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I believe this dude got some of the truth thru. Maybe it was by mistake or they were not paying attention that he been talking. I know he been briefed about what not to say. He must have forgot that he was not suppose to say about this. There are some that know this and they will not open their mouth about it. They not only threaten them with unemployment or imprisonment or death but they threaten to kill their family if they talk. I was surprised to see this little bit get thru.
 
I tried to check some of that out about the Annunaki. A lot of things can be a certain way but the story usually boils down to who is telling or passing the story on. Like 911 officially they are saying Bin Laden did it but we that are not part of the made up story kind of know what really happened. For around 6 thousand years our enemy has been the ones passing on things officially.
 
Interesting posts being made under that Ice Cube Video that I think relates to what you are saying!!
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afrikan people are a direct kin to a powerful ancient race that founded the earth about 200,00 years ago along with its slowly evolving native hominids(caucasians). These people are referred to in many different cultures, Greek mythology, Norse mythology, but the most accurate is Egyptian(Khemtian) mythology it could even be referred to as history if you wanna take it there. Sumerians refer to them as Annunaki, but what an afrikan sage might call them is something different that I know nothing of. Also the game Assassins creed the video game even has a fiction story that they have fun with on there that’s quite interesting in their “game universe” they call them The Isu. To make it simple think of Thor and the asgardians, but all dark with dreads, and braids picture Wakanda on steroids lol
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Timestamp from 6:14

I believe Ice Cube got that from Elijah Muhammad. What he said about Adam and Eve is part of what I have been trying to prove and present to the world. He was talking about the version that whites made popular and official. The real garden of eden is when there was only blacks, the time before other races were grafted from us. But after the take over of the white race (devils) there was suppose to be a secret weapon within me (the mothership connection). It would be totally amazing if we can compare the world or earth after 6 thousand years of demons ruling it to blacks unchanged from over millions of years ago. This type of awakening is one where we could never be deceived again. Even the devil race of whites could never even brainwash themselves again.
Guess I will take that cd and listen to it tomorrow while I go out of town see what Ice Cube got in that cd. I was told it was hot.
 
Interesting. What's your take on consciousness and also if we have past lives or resurrection or reincarnation?



 
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https://www.nps.gov/ethnography/aah/aaheritage/lowCountry_furthRdg1.htm

Many of these early slaves were American Indians, mostly Algonquian-speakers of coastal Virginia and North Carolina. By the 1680s, English settlers routinely kidnapped Native American women and children in the coastal plains of North Carolina and Virginia. This Native American slave trade involved a number of colonies, including Virginia, Carolina, Pennsylvania, Massachusetts, Jamaica, Barbados, St. Kitts, and Nevis. So many Indian slaves were traded to Pennsylvania that a law was passed in 1705 forbidding the importation of Carolina Indian slaves. This was done in part because many of the slaves were Tuscarora who were aligned militarily with the Iroquois Confederacy, which threatened to intervene to stop the trade.


From 1680 to 1715, the English sold thousands of Indians into slavery, some as far away as the Caribbean. Indian slavery, however, had many problems, not the least of which were Indian attacks, and by 1720, most colonies in North America had abandoned it for African slavery. In 1670, Virginia passed a law defining slavery as a lifelong inheritable “racial” status. After the passage of this law many “black Indians” found themselves classified as black and forced into slavery.


In the fields and homes of colonial plantations, mutually enslaved African Americans and American Indians forged their first intimate relations. In spite of a later tendency in the Southern colonies to differentiate the African slave from the Indian, chattel slavery was built on a preexisting system of Indian slavery. Even though the arrival of Africans in 1619 began to change the face of slavery in North America from “tawny” Indian to “blackamoor” African, Indian slaves were exported throughout the Caribbean often in trade for Africans. As the 18th century dawned the slave trade in American Indians was so serious that it eclipsed the trade for furs and skins and had become the primary source of commerce between the English and the South Carolina colonials (Minges 2002:454).


During this transitional period, Africans and Americans Indians shared the common experience of enslavement. They worked together, lived together in communal quarters, produced collective recipes for food, shared herbal remedies, myths and legends and in the end they intermarried. Africans had a disproportionate numbers of males in their population while Native American women and children were disproportionately enslaved. American Indians males were shipped to the Caribbean, died in wars or of European diseases. As traditional societies in the Southeast were primarily matrilineal, African males who married American Indians women often became members of the wife’s clan and of her nation

The 1740 slave codes of South Carolina served to blur the distinction between African, American Indian and the children of their intermarriage, declaring: All negroes and Indians, (free Indians in amity with this government, and negroes, mulattoes, and mustezoses, who are now free, excepted) mullatoes and mustezoes who are now, or shall hereafter be in this province, and all their issue and offspring…shall be and they are hereby declared to be, and remain hereafter absolute slaves (Hurd 1862:303 as cited in Minges 2002:455)
 
I just want to say in this discussion,

I don't advocate the theory that black people are 98% African-American. But it really makes no difference to me. They stole our bodies, livelihood and land from America to Africa. The common denominator is the caste system of the albino mind, White on top, Black on the bottom. So yeah, it should be no surprise that blacks were in America first, then came the honkies doing what they do, enslaving, raping, pillaging and displacing dark-skinned people. It's about the skin color and phenotype.

Native Americans and Blacks were enslaving each other too, tribal warfare, but it wasn't on the basis of color until the white man arrived.

It's interesting to learn that many of us may have native American roots, but it still makes no difference in the context of where we are currently. It's not like exposing the fact that we have native Ancestry is going to make cacs cut us a check.
 
My kind of thread!

Architecture of the Ancient Americas
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Cliff dwelling in Mesa Verde National Park, Colorado, USA (left) ( CC BY-SA 4.0 ). Bandiagara Escarpment, Mali (right) ( CC BY-SA 2.0 )

The cliff dwellings of the American southwest share a striking similarity with those that can be found in west Africa.

The Mali empire, or groups within their realm, are responsible for the creation of the cliff dwellings that can be found in west Africa, and the Anasazi are known to have created many of the cliff dwellings found in the American southwest. However, with just the pictures alone, it’s unlikely someone could tell which ruins belonged where. The style of construction is essentially identical, as is the locations chosen and the materials used. Much of the American ruins—Palatki, for instance—are also believed to have been founded during the period of the Mali empire where records indicate trips across the Atlantic were taking place.

Additionally, Malian script and petroglyphs have not only been found throughout the surrounding region but also at the sites of these cliff dwellings. [Look to the work of Anthropologist and Linguist Dr. Clyde Winters for a thorough survey and analysis of west African script and petroglyphs in the American southwest].
 
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