2019 Might be a rough year (GM shutting down five plants and more)

Wharever mod merged these 2 threads your judgement is wrong.

Plant closings and particular car models being discontinued are two totally different things.

This action just destroyed to totally different threads.
 
No one disagreed about the future of autos. However to ignore the tariff issue is just being tone deaf and a cult follower.:smh:

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/t...e-global-auto-industry-says-moodys-2018-06-25

Agree.

Ford recently announced plant closures and reduction of certain brands. Chrysler will follow soon.

Other industries are gonna follow cuz of Trumps stupidity with these tariffs.

Harley Davidson announced earlier this year they are shutting down plants. That company Carrier Trump praises during the 2016 campaign announced its relocating operations out of the US.
 
They using Explorers and Tahoe’s now

Our supervisory personnel roll in Caprice's.

If you don't know, that is the one you want at the muncipal auction!

https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&sou...aw1cLjr4bYdm9BoZLDa1obKe&ust=1543455611526749

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Americans like our space

the sedan isnt the problem its the engines

give us a sedan with an efficient engine and we’ll buy it

No truer words written in this thread...

My VW passat diesel would get me from MD to SC on 3/4 of a tank and pulls from 100 to 130 before I ran out of road and had to lift.

There are no true 5 passenger (160lbs and up) American sedans anymore.
 
No truer words written in this thread...

My VW passat diesel would get me from MD to SC on 3/4 of a tank and pulls from 100 to 130 before I ran out of road and had to lift.

There are no true 5 passenger (160lbs and up) American sedans anymore.
Kia
 
Agree.

Ford recently announced plant closures and reduction of certain brands. Chrysler will follow soon.

Other industries are gonna follow cuz of Trumps stupidity with these tariffs.

Harley Davidson announced earlier this year they are shutting down plants. That company Carrier Trump praises during the 2016 campaign announced its relocating operations out of the US.

Chrysler stopped making the 200 a couple model years back. And they are phasing out the 300... Chrysler will be just minivans and people movers. What is left for Dodge as a brand? ( 2 Cha cars....) Ram is technically its own brand now and FCA is trying to make Jeep a global powerhouse in the crossover, hybrid and full electric market.


Now Trump wanna talk tough and "take back" the subsidies given to GM... Bitch please....

At no point in time will this narcissistic pinhead ever apologize or humbly accept any of the blame like any true leader of the people. Fuck him
 
No one's car sales are doing well. Ford is killing almost all of their car lineup and Honda's significantly scaled back production of the Accord.

But you have to acknowledge that increasing losses due to Trump's tariffs has accelerated this trend.

As a 9.5 Gen Accord coupe owner... Honda fucked up the design and direction of the 10th Gen Accord. Getting rid of the V6 option hurt higher trim sales, making it butt fucking ugly hurt sales across the board. But... They boosted the resale value of my V6 manual coupe. So I guess I should say thank you.:dunno:
 

Shits are unreliable as fuck, it’s why police departments move toward Tahoe’s and explorers now
 
Shits are unreliable as fuck, it’s why police departments move toward Tahoe’s and explorers now

Patrol rolls in Tahoe’s...

One of my Batt chiefs has a black Tahoe with the pursuit package that nobody wanted ... You talking about want... Thats a bad muthafucka though.
 
Patrol rolls in Tahoe’s...

One of my Batt chiefs has a black Tahoe with the pursuit package that nobody wanted ... You talking about want... Thats a bad muthafucka though.
Tahoe is a very good car is very good gas mileage on the highway to believe it or not as you know I had a 2003 kept it until earlier this year when the transmission went out in all the little stuff I had to give it up and went to a Kia. Don’t get me wrong I miss my Tahoe but I am saving so much money on gas right now with the Kia
 
Watch it sucka this has nothing to do with Trump.

Like GM said people are just not buying passenger cars anymore like they once did, so instead of wasting money making them and not selling them they have decided to discontinue them instead.


It has everything to do with Trump, Trump fucked up last year with this woman & others.

GM didn't lose any money on car sales in general. They hit all their numbers when it come to the final dollar so far.

Their profit will still be 10+ billion come end of the year!

They just wanna build outside of the US & cut the fat. This is all.

She gone fuck Trump in the process!!!
 
Tahoe is a very good car is very good gas mileage on the highway to believe it or not as you know I had a 2003 kept it until earlier this year when the transmission went out in all the little stuff I had to give it up and went to a Kia. Don’t get me wrong I miss my Tahoe but I am saving so much money on gas right now with the Kia


I would buy a Traverse, bigger in every way & better on gas....
 
It has everything to do with Trump, Trump fucked up last year with this woman & others.

GM didn't lose any money on car sales in general. They hit all their numbers when it come to the final dollar so far.

Their profit will still be 10+ billion come end of the year!

They just wanna build outside of the US & cut the fat. This is all.

She gone fuck Trump in the process!!!
You are wrong. GM have been having problems selling their sedan cars for awhile now. People rather by their crossovers and suv's than their sedan cars. This issue has nothing to do with Trump.
 
You are wrong. GM have been having problems selling their sedan cars for awhile now. People rather by their crossovers and suv's than their sedan cars. This issue has nothing to do with Trump.


They're not closing plants cause they're not selling cars. They're doing it cause they want to build outside the US. GMK is doing much better & is a bigger profit margin. If it was the case, they would just re-tool the plants like they did at mine when they brought the Camaro back to the US. This strictly "we're going to get out of the US" move. They changed over the lines while we were still in the plant! It took all of 4 months to do this.

They did a similar move with the Encore & Envision. Most cars are on the same platform. It isn't hard. She is simply pushing her weight, they're moving people at the VEC, which makes no sense if it's cause of those cars not selling. They have a few plants in mind where the new cars will be built.

They set themselves up for this long ago. This is about the future & more profits. Which can't be made in the US. I've seen this a few times being here. As this goes along, it will become clear.

They been had this plan laid out a few ways, they was going to build the Blazer there, but no....She is focusing on where Trump stumped!

I took these at the VEC this summer.. A Retool at Lordstown would've been done before the new year






THEY CAN JUST RETOOL THE PLANT!

Another thing, cars never was a big portion of GM sales, they can't compete with Toyota & Honda in this segment. Now Kia & Hyundai are whooping their ass too.

China is now GM's largest market, that's where they wanna build cars.
 
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They're not closing plants cause they're not selling cars. They're doing it cause they want to build outside the US. GMK is doing much better & is a bigger profit margin. If it was the case, they would just re-tool the plants like they did at mine when they brought the Camaro back to the US. This strictly "we're going to get out of the US" move. They changed over the lines while we were still in the plant! It took all of 4 months to do this.

They did a similar move with the Encore & Envision. Most cars are on the same platform. It isn't hard. She is simply pushing her weight, they're moving people at the VEC, which makes no sense if it's cause of those cars not selling. They have a few plants in mind where the new cars will be built.

They set themselves up for this long ago. This is about the future & more profits. Which can't be made in the US. I've seen this a few times being here. As this goes along, it will become clear.

They been had this plan laid out a few ways, they was going to build the Blazer there, but no....She is focusing on where Trump stumped!

I took these at the VEC this summer.. A Retool at Lordstown would've been done before the new year






THEY CAN JUST RETOOL THE PLANT!

Another thing, cars never was a big portion of GM sales, they can't compete with Toyota & Honda in this segment. Now Kia & Hyundai are whooping their ass too.

China is now GM's largest market, that's where they wanna build cars.
It's still not a Trump issue he does not own the company.
 
It's still not a Trump issue he does not own the company.

His policies effect the profits / margins of all the US automakers and effect the market for potential car buyers.....

Aye, you know what... I just realized why you like Mr Drumpf so much

You can't admit admit when you're wrong and clearly on the wrong side of an issue, just like him...

Its cool... I know a lot of the time you're trolling.... And when I have time.... I'll troll right there with against you.
 
His policies effect the profits / margins of all the US automakers and effect the market for potential car buyers.....

Aye, you know what... I just realized why you like Mr Drumpf so much

You can't admit admit when you're wrong and clearly on the wrong side of an issue, just like him...

Its cool... I know a lot of the time you're trolling.... And when I have time.... I'll troll right there with against you.
I disagree. You are not examining all factors for this decrease in sedan car sales.

Alot more people aren't driving sedan cars anymore period. They are becoming a thing of the past. They are buying crossovers and suv's instead.

Maybe you need to get updated with today's time cause you seem behind.
 
His policies effect the profits / margins of all the US automakers and effect the market for potential car buyers.....

Aye, you know what... I just realized why you like Mr Drumpf so much

You can't admit admit when you're wrong and clearly on the wrong side of an issue, just like him...

Its cool... I know a lot of the time you're trolling.... And when I have time.... I'll troll right there with against you.
Yup, as the cost of raw materials rise, companies pass the buck to the consumer. They not eating that shit by themselves. People aren't getting paid more, so they have to go cheaper. What's cheaper??? Shit that isn't made here... I work for a tire distributor. Had to raise prices 15-17%. We're doing it in stages, but people noticed RIGHT AWAY. We're always slower in the winter time, but my biggest accounts went from 3-4 hundred units a month, to a bit over half that. Shit hit October 1st. Shit isn't a good look and will not have Trump's desired effect. We slangin the shit out of those POS Chinese tires though. National brands??? Not so much.
 
Simps drinking that union koolaid. All the non union plants thriving. They ain’t figured it out that they all in this together. Sign a contract that says lay-off and the heads still get paid. The reps get #1 seniority and get paid during a strike.
 
Simps drinking that union koolaid. All the non union plants thriving. They ain’t figured it out that they all in this together. Sign a contract that says lay-off and the heads still get paid. The reps get #1 seniority and get paid during a strike.
No they are not they are getting paid less then the union as plants with minimum benefits troll
 
No they are not they are getting paid less then the union as plants with minimum benefits troll
Yep still drinking the koolaid. GM plant in Spring Hill TN makes about the same as the Nissan plant in Smyrna if you go to Glassdoor. I have a partner that started at GM and went to Nissan and did not go back when they reopened. He gets a discount lease thru Nissan with a 36000 year mileage. For the past ten years sprinhill has been shut down 4 years only had bonuses 3 years. Nissan has never laid off and they have paid out everyone of those 10 years regardless of performance. Stop letting the man fool you. Do the math who has made the most money.
 
Yep still drinking the koolaid. GM plant in Spring Hill TN makes about the same as the Nissan plant in Smyrna if you go to Glassdoor. I have a partner that started at GM and went to Nissan and did not go back when they reopened. He gets a discount lease thru Nissan with a 36000 year mileage. For the past ten years sprinhill has been shut down 4 years only had bonuses 3 years. Nissan has never laid off and they have paid out everyone of those 10 years regardless of performance. Stop letting the man fool you. Do the math who has made the most money.
I want to see proof other than that you are bullshit
 
I want to see proof other than that you are bullshit
It’s on the internet, did you not know GM shut down for four years. You don’t know how to use glass door. The lease car program is well known and what proof do you have except what white people tell you. Union Stewart always fooling simple people. If GM was so great the Nissan and GM plants are 45 miles away and they have lost workers to Nissan and two union drives. Workers live next to each other. No mystery on Pay I got friends in both plants.

Look at union membership. Union plants are leaving and plants like BMW and Volvo Toyota Mazda Nissan are growing. Turn on the TV Ford and GM are cutting the work Force and blaming it on cars and the foreign plants are building new ones in America. Total of 25000 plus workers are being let go. I mean you can’t be that stupid.
 
It’s on the internet, did you not know GM shut down for four years. You don’t know how to use glass door. The lease car program is well known and what proof do you have except what white people tell you. Union Stewart always fooling simple people. If GM was so great the Nissan and GM plants are 45 miles away and they have lost workers to Nissan and two union drives. Workers live next to each other. No mystery on Pay I got friends in both plants.

Look at union membership. Union plants are leaving and plants like BMW and Volvo Toyota Mazda Nissan are growing. Turn on the TV Ford and GM are cutting the work Force and blaming it on cars and the foreign plants are building new ones in America. Total of 25000 plus workers are being let go. I mean you can’t be that stupid.
You still don’t have proof
 
I thought calling a another grown man your "play person" was for girls and women.
It's not. Where I'm from "play cousin" is used alot. My mom and Drake mom called each other that in the 70's when they were growing up together and still say it now. It then got passed down to me and drake. But me and drake just call each other cousin but since we aren't blood cousins I just tell people we "play cousins" just to be more exact.

If you want a definition of "play cousin". It's a person that's close to someone like family but just not blood related.
 
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