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Ain't NOBODY coming to save this nigga either lmaaaaao

Alex
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Proportional to doesn't mean equal to. It means proportional to. Its a great way to explain the pull between two masses without using a constant like G. But it doesn't define what the gravitational pull between those two masses is until you use the constant G. And you're right, G is a constant and never zero. But you can never define gravitational force without using G. Please calculate gravitational force for me without using G. Or calculate gravity for me without using acceleration. It would be more interesting to talk about how G was derived and not just plugging numbers into that equation so that we can come to a conclusion to see if a planet needs to move or not for there to be a gravitational force.

Please reread what I said:

Newton’s original equation was F α (m1*m2)/r^2.

“α” means “proportional to” but they were NOT equal to each other. That’s where the gravitational constant G came into play because it was the constant difference between the two proportions. By including G into the equation both the Gravitational force (F) and G(m1*m2)/r^2 are now equal to each other.

What I said in my original response was what you said in your first 5 sentences here.

Then you say "But you can never define gravitational force without using G."

Which I agree here, however when we peddle back to when you said :

If there is no movemement by the sun or Earth, then there is no gravitational pull created by them.

But then you agreed that "G is a constant and never zero".

That is a contraindication to your argument, bro. It actually is a huge hole in your argument. Because G being zero is the only way that Gravitation Force can be zero.

But do we really want to talk about how G was derived even after I just showed that G was a very small number that bares little significance? I pretty sure no rotation of any such is considered in the calculation of G. If it was, then G would be a much high number.
 
@4 Dimensional

He didn't expect rambling from you

Dyyyyyyying

I'm ready to math any and all concepts right now.

My man seems to hanging on this Gravitational Constant for dear life to get this movement thing to be true.

We at talking about the derivation of G now (possibly). :dunno:

Ain't NOBODY coming to save this nigga either lmaaaaao

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Hell naw. The math has been unleashed now.

They thinking about them algebra classes like

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Not arguing not concepts without equations. Fuck that.
 
Bro

Nothing in the universe is not in constant motion.

Everything

EVERYTHING

Is moving at all times.

you mind fuckin me bruh....

the article clearly says... a massive black holes in the center of galaxies stay put...

and again.. I know everything in the universe on a quatum level everything is in motion..

but everything does not move on its own accord like massive black holes.

stop the jedi mind tricks with the semantics..

so you are saying this quote is false correct?

"The really massive black holes at the centers of galaxies will stay there unless something catastrophic happens, like a direct collision between two galaxies."

if so then we will have to agree to disagree there you city slicker....
 

Boy that tesseract damn near made me spit my drink out

you mind fuckin me bruh....

the article clearly says... a massive black holes in the center of galaxies stay put...

and again.. I know everything in the universe on a quatum level everything is in motion..

but everything does not move on its own accord like massive black holes.

stop the jedi mind tricks with the semantics..

so you are saying this quote is false correct?

"The really massive black holes at the centers of galaxies will stay there unless something catastrophic happens, like a direct collision between two galaxies."

if so then we will have to agree to disagree there you city slicker....

That article means relative to their galaxies or spontaneous movement bro

They are still within their galaxies while also hurtling through space at a few hundred thousand mph
 
you are so much cooler when you master your anger..

you still wrong about the massive black holes in the center of galaxies tho... they do not move.. unless triggered by something.

A: Black holes can indeed move through space. The really massive black holes at the centers of galaxies will stay there unless something catastrophic happens, like a direct collision between two galaxies.

The much smaller black holes formed from the explosions of stars can move fairly quickly because they receive a kick from the explosion. See, for example:

http://chandra.harvard.edu/blog/node/326
All galaxies are moving.

Why do you keep typing that.

We have images of galaxies colliding.
 
It's like a cup in a cup holder in a speeding car.

To the cup, the cupholder is not moving.

But the car is the galaxy... its hauling ass.

They will continue in the harmony indefinitely or until acted upon by another force i.e. crash.

The black holes are all also GROWING. So you CAN NOT grown and remain in the same place. Its impossible.

So in every sense of the word the black holes are moving... through space as the galaxy transits, growing in size as it consumes more mass.

That quote points to the movment of the black hole in relation to its surrounding galaxy.
And yes its false since the black holes are all growing

you mind fuckin me bruh....

the article clearly says... a massive black holes in the center of galaxies stay put...

and again.. I know everything in the universe on a quatum level everything is in motion..

but everything does not move on its own accord like massive black holes.

stop the jedi mind tricks with the semantics..

so you are saying this quote is false correct?

"The really massive black holes at the centers of galaxies will stay there unless something catastrophic happens, like a direct collision between two galaxies."

if so then we will have to agree to disagree there you city slicker....
 
It's like a cup in a cup holder in a speeding car.

To the cup, the cupholder is not moving.

But the car is the galaxy... its hauling ass.

They will continue in the harmony indefinitely or until acted upon by another force i.e. crash.

The black holes are all also GROWING. So you CAN NOT grown and remain in the same place. Its impossible.

So in every sense of the word the black holes are moving... through space as the galaxy transits, growing in size as it consumes more mass.

That quote points to the movment of the black hole in relation to its surrounding galaxy.
And yes its false since the black holes are all growing
But it's Wikipedia!
 
It's like a cup in a cup holder in a speeding car.

To the cup, the cupholder is not moving.

But the car is the galaxy... its hauling ass.

They will continue in the harmony indefinitely or until acted upon by another force i.e. crash.

The black holes are all also GROWING. So you CAN NOT grown and remain in the same place. Its impossible.

So in every sense of the word the black holes are moving... through space as the galaxy transits, growing in size as it consumes more mass.

That quote points to the movment of the black hole in relation to its surrounding galaxy.
And yes its false since the black holes are all growing

in comparison to planets are massive black holes in the center of galaxies stationary??
 
Please reread what I said:



What I said in my original response was what you said in your first 5 sentences here.

Then you say "But you can never define gravitational force without using G."

Which I agree here, however when we peddle back to when you said :



But then you agreed that "G is a constant and never zero".

That is a contraindication to your argument, bro. It actually is a huge hole in your argument. Because G being zero is the only way that Gravitation Force can be zero.

But do we really want to talk about how G was derived even after I just showed that G was a very small number that bares little significance? I pretty sure no rotation of any such is considered in the calculation of G. If it was, then G would be a much high number.

You don't understand at all. When did I ever said that G was zero or that a planet didn't move? I've been saying the exact opposite. And what rotation are you talking about? Now you're sounding like your boy. You're all over the place.

Also, if there is no mass, there is no gravitational force either. It's why you need both. Not just one. This is something you should know.

The fact is you don't know the difference between the property of matter and something that is created such as gravitational force. Someone who claims to know about science should know the difference. So you ramble on about things no one talked about as if they make some kind of point in the argument. Dont change the subject. Lets deal directly with this. Lets use the equation you posted. Show how G was derived.
 
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Pretty soon ain't nobody going anywhere if they don't clean this bullshit up, the CAC is the dirtiest motherfucker in the universe, like Trump always worried about winning and fuck the future.

How you winning and killing your future at the same time. :smh:

I would say it ain't Rocket Science except it is.

INNER SPACE DEBRI CRITICALLY OUT OF CONTROL :smh:
 
You have no reply to what I answered, do you? You're like that special kid that needs someone else to come and save you.
Man if you don't shut yo dumb ass up lol don't get mad because the rest of the actual smart people came in the thread And told your buckethead ass the same shit I did.

You trying to repurpose a fucking fundamental equation of physics when EVERYBODY telling you you got it fucked up.

And you know what you haven't done? Supply the equation to support your cockamamie position that I've asked you for like half a dozen times now. Surprise Surprise.

The Council hath spoken.
 
in comparison to planets are massive black holes in the center of galaxies stationary??
Motion being relative, that's kind of weird to answer. Plus stars orbit the black holes, and planets orbit those stars.

If we use the solar system as an analog, that would be like asking if the sun was stationary to somebody on an asteroid. So I guess in that sense yes, if you discount for a moment that both of you are speeding yalls asses off through space.
 
You don't understand at all. When did I ever said that G was zero or that a planet didn't move? I've been saying the exact opposite. And what rotation are you talking about? Now you're sounding like your boy. You're all over the place.

Also, if there is no mass, there is no gravitational force either. It's why you need both. Not just one. This is something you should know.

The fact is you don't know the difference between the property of matter and something that is created such as gravitational force. Someone who claims to know about science should know the difference. So you ramble on about things no one talked about as if they make some kind of point in the argument. Dont change the subject. Lets deal directly with this. Lets use the equation you posted. Show how G was derived.

Youre getting hung up on words and not understanding the mathematical concepts I have presented to you.

If there is no movemement by the sun or Earth, then there is no gravitational pull created by them.

^^ that’s what you said. We’ve asked you to show proof or the equation to support that claim and you haven’t done it.

I specifically said in order for your statement to be true that G would have to be zero because everything has a mass and mass can’t be zero. I never in any response to you said that you said G was zero. I never said that. I was simply presenting a mathematical explainations of how that equation works.

What in the gravitational force equation has movement? You said G because G has a Newton as a unit which includes m/s^2 as you said below.

So the gravitational force is proportional to mass and a gravitational constant G. That graviational constant contains a meters/ seconds2 term as part of its units. So you are literally multiplying a mass times a movement to get a gravitaional pull. The gravitational constant was also derived from the motion of planets. Without the gravitational constant G that was derived from the motion of planets, and contains an acceleration term, there would be no equation for gravitational pull.

You telling me I don’t understand, but I’m pretty sure that acceleration does not act on it’s own, so what is causing the acceleration if MASS is being multiplied by acceleration? @sammyjax done explained this to you once but you keep dodging this question.

Since you have in your mind that you know what up, derive G. Show us how G was derived then show us where there is movement within that derivation.
 
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Hold up... this thread dropped two days ago and we are already on 12 fucking pages...

Holy shit..

What did I miss in here?

Why wasn’t I summoned....

Is there some Flat earth tomfoolery going on

It ain’t too late to join in. Lots of fuckery going on.

Man if you don't shut yo dumb ass up lol don't get mad because the rest of the actual smart people came in the thread And told your buckethead ass the same shit I did.

You trying to repurpose a fucking fundamental equation of physics when EVERYBODY telling you you got it fucked up.

And you know what you haven't done? Supply the equation to support your cockamamie position that I've asked you for like half a dozen times now. Surprise Surprise.

The Council hath spoken.

Im baffled right now. I swear to goodness if I didn’t understand something I would admit it. I really would. You know I’m humble that way.

But this shit here, man. All we are asking is the equation to show that movement causes gravity and now he wants to know the derivation of G. Bruh, that is REACHING.
 
Youre getting hung up on words and not understanding the mathematical concepts I have presented to you.



^^ that’s what you said. We’ve asked you to show proof or the equation to support that claim and you haven’t done it.

I specifically said in order for your statement to be true that G would have to be zero because everything has a mass and mass can’t be zero. I never in any response to you said that you said G was zero. I never said that. I was simply presenting a mathematical explainations of how that equation works.

What in the gravitational force equation has movement? You said G because G has a Newton as a unit which includes m/s^2 as you said below.



You telling me I don’t understand, but I’m pretty sure that acceleration does not act on it’s on, so what is causing the acceleration of MASS is being multiplied by acceleration? @sammyjax done explained this to you once but you keep dodging this question.

Since you have in your mind that you know what up, derive G. Show us how G was derived then show us where there is movement within that derivation.

The tap dancing deserves a Tony
 
It ain’t too late to join in. Lots of fuckery going on.



Im baffled right now. I swear to goodness if I didn’t understand something I would admit it. I really would. You know I’m humble that way.

But this shit here, man. All we are asking is the equation to show that movement causes gravity and now he wants to know the derivation of G. Bruh, that is REACHING.
I think it's just that dude learned that shit wrong a long time ago, never had it tested, and it has become one of his closely held science beliefs. It's probably just hard to let go something you've been looking at wrong forever. I'm trying to give him the benefit of the doubt.

But it's the arrogance that gets me lol like nigga...all these people telling you you got it fucked up and you just fold your arms instead of being like okay let me reevaluate this a bit.

Crazy.
 
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