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I just wanted to focus on the created part.

None of the rest of it mattered.

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I got you bro. It’s literally the 2nd equation you learn in class besides Newton’s 2nd law.

Folk love to talk about concepts but never shows the math to back anything up.

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That nigga ain't gon understand this shit man

Apparently he teaches 6th grade also

I always say if they understood this fundamental equation, these threads wouldn't even happen
 
That nigga ain't gon understand this shit man

Apparently he teaches 6th grade also

And this my issue with these threads. It reminded me how you constantly asked for the math, but folks want to talk about this stuff like these laws of physics were derived out of thin air.

EVERY physical concept has math to back it up because physics and astronomy needs math to in order to explain. If the math doesn’t math sense, then the concept is not used in physics.
 
And this my issue with these threads. It reminded me how you constantly asked for the math, but folks want to talk about this stuff like these laws of physics were derived out of thin air.

EVERY physical concept has math to back it up because physics and astronomy needs math to in order to explain. If the math doesn’t math sense, then the concept is not used in physics.
This is what bothers me in these threads too.

Theories flying all around but based on feeling not provable or substantive fact. When asked for the fact insults and misdirection is all you ever get
 
This is what bothers me in these threads too.

Theories flying all around but based on feeling not provable or substantive fact. When asked for the fact insults and misdirection is all you ever get

Right. And the thing about being in such a field is that I have to keep my mind open to possibilities just in case something was missed. However, it has to be proven otherwise mathematically and conceptionally. I’m cant just jump to alternate theories because folks don’t trust NASA.
 
Right. And the thing about being in such a field is that I have to keep my mind open to possibilities just in case something was missed. However, it has to be proven otherwise mathematically and conceptionally. I’m cant just jump to alternate theories because folks don’t trust NASA.
That's my whole thing is in not even trying to be "right". The only reason any of this works is disproving the previous thing with the better thing. But you gotta PROVE it. And proof is a fucking mathematical term.

Math really deads all the arguments except everybody gotta be on the same page.

Ain't a single theory out here where the paper is just words lol.
 
Mine get ugly because I straight out call niggas dumb lol

Maybe that's not the best approach except niggas be really in they bag like they know something, wild hubris.

And i prefer boxing gloves to kid gloves every day of the week.

Yo, you be killing me when you go at kats. You remind me of my colleague that be destroying folks in his physics class.

I’ve had students come at me in similar fashion but couldn’t solve for X but swear up and down they know what they was talking about.

And the older I get the less I’m concerned how I make folks feel about it.
 
That's my whole thing is in not even trying to be "right". The only reason any of this works is disproving the previous thing with the better thing. But you gotta PROVE it. And proof is a fucking mathematical term.

Math really deads all the arguments except everybody gotta be on the same page.

Ain't a single theory out here where the paper is just words lol.

Everything you said.

Not even concern with being “right.” Just prove it otherwise. And you know they have to use “our” math do it. That’s what’s so funny about it all.
 
This is not remotely true. Where did you get this idea from?
I didn't "get" the idea from somehwere. It is what it is. Force is not a property of something. I think this basic concept is seriously beyond most everyone on bgol. Even the so-called scientists. I sometimes wonder if they've put on an online persona or they got their advanced degree at a community college.

Anyway mathematically, the concepts of gravitational pull between two planets by assuming that gravity is a specific property of the mass of a planet works. The math works just fine. So yeah, you can get away with assuming that because it being a property or not is not factored into the equation. But behind the scenes that force is being created by a movement. Force is not and never will be a property of matter. Entropy, energy, temperature and pressure are properties of matter at a given specific state. Force is created. The others are not.
 
I didn't "get" the idea from somehwere. It is what it is. Force is not a property of something. I think this basic concept is seriously beyond most everyone on bgol. Even the so-called scientists. I sometimes wonder if they've put on an online persona or they got their advanced degree at a community college.

Anyway mathematically, the concepts of gravitational pull between two planets by assuming that gravity is a specific property of the mass of a planet works. The math works just fine. So yeah, you can get away with assuming that because it being a property or not is not factored into the equation. But behind the scenes that force is being created by a movement. Force is not and never will be a property of matter. Entropy, energy, temperature and pressure are properties of matter at a given specific state. Force is created. The others are not.
gravitational force is created by mass, not movement. See the above equation posted by @4 Dimensional.

Please share your motion=gravitational force equation.
 
Lol

Thanks.

But the fact remains, the sun and all stars are a result of gravity.

You dont create gravity, you amass gravity. It's not created its collected. It's always there.

If everything stopped moving gravity wouldnt matter, but neither would mass.

Yes you can amass a force, duh. Those gravitational forces were created from somewhere: moving masses. I cant believe that I have to explain that something that is defined as a mass moving with respect to time is generated.
 
This will fuck you up...

It ain't andromeda we need to worry about.


This is basically the same software we use, but I would love to update with the GAIA dataset when we upgrade in 2-3 years. I would kill to have those same filters.

I've described Kepler as a flashlight in the dark, the illest shit about this video to me was seeing that visualized. She should have done that presentation in the dome!

Great post.
Yo, you be killing me when you go at kats. You remind me of my colleague that be destroying folks in his physics class.

I’ve had students come at me in similar fashion but couldn’t solve for X but swear up and down they know what they was talking about.

And the older I get the less I’m concerned how I make folks feel about it.
man I really don't be giving a fuck on here with these slick mouthed imbeciles lol

Everything you said.

Not even concern with being “right.” Just prove it otherwise. And you know they have to use “our” math do it. That’s what’s so funny about it all.
it's s how we get ahead.

I mean shit let's assume im wrong. We compare the data and let the math do the arguing for us, no love last at all. The attitudes come in from having egos about the shit.

But scientists have been known to have massive egos too, let's be honest. There's just a global acceptance of the scientific method that keeps everybody on the same framework of protocol.
 
Yes you can amass a force, duh. Those gravitational forces were created from somewhere: moving masses. I cant believe that I have to explain that something that is defined as a mass moving with respect to time is generated.
Lol

Again. It's always funny to watch the arrogance of these replies.

Yes you would have to explain how gravity is created. You were not correct in your previous attempts.

Feel free to try again.
 
That's my whole thing is in not even trying to be "right". The only reason any of this works is disproving the previous thing with the better thing. But you gotta PROVE it. And proof is a fucking mathematical term.

Math really deads all the arguments except everybody gotta be on the same page.

Ain't a single theory out here where the paper is just words lol.
That's where you're wrong!

The entire flat earth, moon hoax theory are devoid of math, and subsequently just words.
 
Apperently a GAIA 'planetarium' is in the works, they were just showing off the first batch of info.

I think NGT is adapting this for the Hayden though

This is basically the same software we use, but I would love to update with the GAIA dataset when we upgrade in 2-3 years. I would kill to have those same filters.

I've described Kepler as a flashlight in the dark, the illest shit about this video to me was seeing that visualized. She should have done that presentation in the dome!

Great post.
man I really don't be giving a fuck on here with these slick mouthed imbeciles lol

it's s how we get ahead.

I mean shit let's assume im wrong. We compare the data and let the math do the arguing for us, no love last at all. The attitudes come in from having egos about the shit.

But scientists have been known to have massive egos too, let's be honest. There's just a global acceptance of the scientific method that keeps everybody on the same framework of protocol.
 
I didn't "get" the idea from somehwere. It is what it is. Force is not a property of something. I think this basic concept is seriously beyond most everyone on bgol. Even the so-called scientists. I sometimes wonder if they've put on an online persona or they got their advanced degree at a community college.

Anyway mathematically, the concepts of gravitational pull between two planets by assuming that gravity is a specific property of the mass of a planet works. The math works just fine. So yeah, you can get away with assuming that because it being a property or not is not factored into the equation. But behind the scenes that force is being created by a movement. Force is not and never will be a property of matter. Entropy, energy, temperature and pressure are properties of matter at a given specific state. Force is created. The others are not.
Does movement creat gravity or does gravity create movement

Show your work please
 
gravitational force is created by mass, not movement. See the above equation posted by @4 Dimensional.

Please share your motion=gravitational force equation.
You are halfway right. Gravitational force is indeed created, which is exactly what I said, by mass but also by movement.

That equation posted above is correct and it has been tested to work. Lets look at it:

F = Gm1m2/ r2

So the gravitational force is proportional to mass and a gravitational constant G. That graviational constant contains a meters/ seconds2 term as part of its units. So you are literally multiplying a mass times a movement to get a gravitaional pull. The gravitational constant was also derived from the motion of planets. Without the gravitational constant G that was derived from the motion of planets, and contains an acceleration term, there would be no equation for gravitational pull.

To be fair, this is not exactly what I was referring to when I was talking about planets creating gravity but maybe researching that equation can help you understand how force and gravity are derived.
 
Apperently a GAIA 'planetarium' is in the works, they were just showing off the first batch of info.

I think NGT is adapting this for the Hayden though
All of the digital ones run some kind of imaging software like this, so the best analogy I can give is this being like a PS4 pro to the current ps4. Any joint worth its salt can do flyouts to the edge of the known universe already.

You playing red dead on both but the GAIA dataset lets you see more stuff at higher resolutions with more shit on the screen at once, more filters, all those new exo planets, etc.
 
All of the digital ones run some kind of imaging software like this, so the best analogy I can give is this being like a PS4 pro to the current ps4. Any joint worth its salt can do flyouts to the edge of the known universe already.

You playing red dead on both but the GAIA dataset lets you see more stuff at higher resolutions with more shit on the screen at once, more filters, all those new exo planets, etc.
The modeling of star movement was a first for.me.

4 billion data points is fuckin staggering.
 
You are halfway right. Gravitational force is indeed created, which is exactly what I said, by mass but also by movement.

That equation posted above is correct and it has been tested to work. Lets look at it:

F = Gm1m2/ r2

So the gravitational force is proportional to mass and a gravitational constant G. That graviational constant contains a meters/ seconds2 term as part of its units. So you are literally multiplying a mass times a movement to get a gravitaional pull. The gravitational constant was also derived from the motion of planets. Without the gravitational constant G that was derived from the motion of planets, and contains an acceleration term, there would be no equation for gravitational pull.

To be fair, this is not exactly what I was referring to when I was talking about planets creating gravity but maybe researching that equation can help you understand how force and gravity are derived.
Dude.

The "motion" in that equation is acceleration DUE to gravity. How can motion be due to something that it's causing?

Also, the discovery of the gravitational constant didn't have shit to do with other planets? Again I ask, where are you getting this from?

That stuff it's not right at all.

My man said maybe researching that equation can help me understand. This is hilarious.
 
According to this fool the faster you go, the more gravity you have. Now, as you move closer to the speed of light your mass will increase and that keeps you from reaching that speed.

http://www.softschools.com/formulas/physics/relativistic_mass_formula/546/

Relativistic Mass Formula

Relativistic mass refers to mass of a body which change with the speed of the body as this speeds approaches close to speed of light, it increases with velocity and tends to infinity when the velocity approaches the speed of light.

Relativistic mass = rest mass / squared root [one minus (velocity / speed of light) squared]

The equation is:

mr = m0 / sqrt (1 – v2 / c2 )

Where:

mr: relativistic mass

m0: rest mass (invariant mass)

v: velocity

c: speed of light

Relativistic Mass Formula Questions:

1) An electron has a rest mass of 9.11 x 10 -31 kg. In a detector, the same electron has a mass of 12.55 x 10-31 kg. How fast is electron moving relative the detector?

Answer:

We cleared the velocity of the equation of the relativistic mass

v = c √(1 – (m0 / mr)2

Now we replace the data

v = (3.00 x 108 m/s) √(1 – 9.11 x 10-31 kg / 12.55 x 10-31 kg)

v = 2.06 x 108 m/s

2) The rest mass of an electron is 9.1 x 10-31 kg and it moves with a speed of 4.5 x 105 m/s. Calculate the relativistic mass.

Answer:

We juts replace the data in the relativistic mass equation

mr = 9.1 x 10 -31 kg / sqrt (1 – (4.5 x 107 m/s / 3.0 x 108 m/s)2)

mr = 9.8 x 10-31 kg
 
I didn't "get" the idea from somehwere. It is what it is. Force is not a property of something. I think this basic concept is seriously beyond most everyone on bgol. Even the so-called scientists. I sometimes wonder if they've put on an online persona or they got their advanced degree at a community college.

Anyway mathematically, the concepts of gravitational pull between two planets by assuming that gravity is a specific property of the mass of a planet works. The math works just fine. So yeah, you can get away with assuming that because it being a property or not is not factored into the equation. But behind the scenes that force is being created by a movement. Force is not and never will be a property of matter. Entropy, energy, temperature and pressure are properties of matter at a given specific state. Force is created. The others are not.
gravitational force is created by mass, not movement. See the above equation posted by @4 Dimensional.

Please share your motion=gravitational force equation.

Nothing in this equation assumes movement. To say the movement is working behind the scene based on assumption is also disregarding that movement of a large bodied object is relative, which mean you can’t assume that it’s working in the background without placing the movement within the equation — simply because movment is relative. Also movement is based on a distance over time, which a time unit is also not present in the gravitational force equation. You’re adding assumptions in areas that is not necessary. What “movement” is creating this force?

The same principle of this equation can be applied to two people standing on a trampoline and placing marbles in between them. The marbles are going to be attracted to the people with the heavier mass. Nothing about that suggest movement causing a gravitational force. This is largely mass causing a gravitational force.

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The modeling of star movement was a first for.me.

4 billion data points is fuckin staggering.
Yeah that's an upgrade but mainly because it's all those new stars and they've been plotted in so much more depth and detail. We can see movement now, like if I run a crazy speed over a few thousand years I can see stellar movement. We just don't have all that sexy GAIA data. I want it.
 
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