And what about Trump's father, mother and himself?
Every American, this has to apply to is my point. Removal of birth certificates from under the US govt is what I wonder is what he wants to do.
Trump looking to change the constitution now and end birthright citizenship
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Every American, this has to apply to is my point. Removal of birth certificates from under the US govt is what I wonder is what he wants to do.
Peace,
It’s always a distraction. It’s been a blitzkrieg since his inauguration. Keep your opponents disoriented and on their heels.
It’s always a distraction. It’s been a blitzkrieg since his inauguration. Keep your opponents disoriented and on their heels.
wtf was they doing …. throwing then back over the fence to the other half of the island ? ….
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“With the stroke of a pen, authorities in the Dominican Republic have effectively wiped four generations of Dominicans off the map,” said Erika Guevara-Rosas, Amnesty’sAmericasdirector.
Since the 1990s, Dominican authorities have created a “legal maze” of bureaucracy to recover their papers, the group said, notinga 2013 court ruling that rendered stateless anyone born in the country to an undocumented foreign parent. The ruling was enforced retroactively to 1929, leaving as many as four generations of Dominicans of Haitian descent stateless and without valid documents.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...ublic-violated-human-rights-haitians-citizens
Cant have whites losing out in numbers!!!
https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/30/politics/donald-trump-ending-birthright-citizenship/index.html
https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/30/politics/donald-trump-ending-birthright-citizenship/index.html
I think both Trump's parents were citizens by the time he was born, but you bring up a great point!
Even that law is far less severe than what Trump is proposing. Under his rule a family could legally immigrate to the United States and lose their child if it's born before their citizenship is finalized. Even though that process takes at least 5 years.
This is just another step where they are trying to prevent what the US Census Bureau states that White folks will be classified officially as a minority in 2042.
The US Census is up in 2020, you gonna see a lot of shenanigans from the GOP to keep the Darkies from being accurately counted.
The abortion debate is they don’t want White chicks aborting White babies.
And those Latino kids held in the detention centers, they are taking the children who pass as White and moving them into White Foster homes.
The US Census is up in 2020, you gonna see a lot of shenanigans from the GOP to keep the Darkies from being accurately counted.
The abortion debate is they don’t want White chicks aborting White babies.
And those Latino kids held in the detention centers, they are taking the children who pass as White and moving them into White Foster homes.
and their citizenship would be null and void, they were naturalized. Every "citizen" have migrated here and gained citizenshit.
I am just wondering if there is a deeper meaning to removing citizenship. If I'm thinking outta left field then it's nothing. But the constitution has been heavily altered over many years and wondering if this is part of going back to what it used to be.
None of us should hold birth certificates or social security numbers, if you understand what I am getting at. It was created as a form of tracking debt the country used to pay back other countries. So either this is deep, or just some racist agenda. Time will tell...
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The GOP is just trying to get their base out to the polls for the midterms. It has worked before so they're just trying it again. He jumped the gun on this because of all the killings over the last week have shifted the pre-midterms narrative.
They're definitely going to push this up to the Supreme Court, but releasing this now seems like an act of desperation.
They're definitely going to push this up to the Supreme Court, but releasing this now seems like an act of desperation.
Im with it.
He's just talking shit as usual. I wish this fucking issue would go the fuck away. Sick of hearing about this shit. Illegal immigration is his fucking goto move. Meanwhile, he's running around the globe on this nationalist shit telling every nation on the planet to fuck off and Americans back here debating fucking illegals. 
Not to mention that those are the two easiest American documents to forge, but I digress.
IMO Trump is just advancing the Republican's real immigration plot. Talk tough to the base while turning a blind eye to all the able bodied illegal immigrants still here. That way you have a permanent underclass that will work cheap, won't qualify for benefits, can't vote, and can be easily disposed of once they've outlived their usefulness. This is why he's put most of his focus on punishing women and children instead of single men.
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Can we get a Merge Fam
https://www.bgol.us/forum/threads/trump-looking-to-end-birthright-citizenships-maga.1023824/
Probably need to correct the thread title of this thread.. ...
I can give Truth the benefit of the doubt on this repost..
Can we get a Merge Fam
https://www.bgol.us/forum/threads/trump-looking-to-end-birthright-citizenships-maga.1023824/
Probably need to correct the thread title of this thread.. ...
I can give Truth the benefit of the doubt on this repost..
Ms Graham is going to introduce it after the midterms. They would need 2/3 of both the House and Senate to pass it because it ratifies the constitution. It stands no chance. But they're doing everything they can right now to ignite the base.
https://thehill.com/blogs/floor-act...uce-legislation-ending-birthright-citizenship
Ms Graham used to be one of Trump's biggest critics, now he's his best foot soldier. Trump probably told him he was going to out him as gay if he didn't fall in line.
https://thehill.com/blogs/floor-act...uce-legislation-ending-birthright-citizenship
Ms Graham used to be one of Trump's biggest critics, now he's his best foot soldier. Trump probably told him he was going to out him as gay if he didn't fall in line.
People said the same thing about his proposed Muslim ban two years ago
No, they didn't because there weren't midterm elections two years ago.
You know what "jumped the gun" means, right? It means they planned on doing it, but something forced them to move earlier than they planned. Trump always works to control narrative and media cycles. The massacres over the last week caused him to lose control over narrative leading up the midterms. So he played another card. That he's doing this at all isn't a surprise. Hillary said on May 6th, 2016 that he was going to do this very thing. However, doing this a week before the midterms is an obvious ploy to make the midterms about immigration because that's the one thing that gets his base out now that the Supreme Court is off the table.
Trump got elected president for promising to ban Muslims. Everyone said "He can't do this", "This is unconstitutional", and "He's only telling lies to fire up his base". Sure enough, this bastard used national security as an excuse to ban entry to people from seven different Muslim nations.
The timing of his announcement doesn't matter. The "constitutionality" of his plan doesn't matter. Trump and his goons have been working overtime to find a way to make this happen by executive order or other means.
The narrative wasn't that he couldn't do it. The narrative was HE'S GOING TO DO THIS. That's what Hillary ran on.
These are two different issues. You would need to understand the constitution to understand the difference. The POTUS has almost unlimited power when it comes to national security issues. That's why there was always going to be a debate over the "ban". And it's still going to be debated. If the President declares a specific country a national security risk, he can deal with the problem through an executive order (like with a travel ban).
Birthright is baked directly into the constitution as an amendment. You have to ratify the constitution to remove it. It's a vastly different issue. You can't make it happen through an executive order. That won't stop him from putting the issue to the forefront and trying. However, you absolutely have to have a constitutional amendment to remove it.
This is silly. It's so clearly necessary to have a legislative battle over this that Lindsey Graham hours later said he'll bring it to the Senate floor. That they're doing this before the midterms is absolutely the most critical thing because they're extremely scared of losing both chambers. They probably already know the House is gone, but even small needle movement can save and expand seats in the Senate. The timing is the most critical element...otherwise, they could have waited a week to deploy it. The timing is everything because it's a clear bat signal to the deplorables.
Gun up..law enforcement strongarming themwtf was they doing …. throwing then back over the fence to the other half of the island ? ….
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That's false. Obama received his citizenship via two ways. He earned it through his mother, being the child of a US citizen, and because he was born on US soil. He could be born on Mars and would still be a US citizen because one of his parents, his mother, is one.
Trump is already in the process of revoking citizenship of people born to midwives near the Mexican border. No executive order or constitutional changes needed. He could also require deported parents to take their children with them or put them up for adoption without breaking the 14th amendment. Of course these children could still return once they're grown, but by then Trump will be dead and long out of office.
What I meant is that Trump and his people have been working on this plan since the beginning. It's not something he pulled out of his ass to get votes. Announcing it now might be politically convenient, but the plan would still be taking shape even if he didn't.
The 14th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, ratified in 1868, granted citizenship to all persons born or naturalized in the United States—including former slaves—and guaranteed all citizens “equal protection of the laws.” One of three amendments passed during the Reconstruction era to abolish slavery and establish civil and legal rights for black Americans, it would become the basis for many landmark Supreme Court decisions over the years.
Wasn't his mother a citizen?
This isn't largely a Black issue. This is definitely a Mexican issue.
When you take away the fact that Trump's dumb ass is pushing it, I see the logic in it. If someone comes here illegally specifically to have a child here, why should that child be granted citizenship over people that have actually went thru the process? I know quite a few Africans here in the Bay that are praying they get citizenship and a few that got denied and had to go back. These folks were educated and had full time jobs too. It is a loophole to be able to circumvent the whole process by just having a baby here after being illegal in the first place.
Trump's plan is to "remove the right to citizenship for babies of noncitizens and unauthorized immigrants born on U.S. soil"
Since Obama's dad was a "non-citizen" his place of birth and mother's citizenship wouldn't matter
That's a different issue. You have over-riding legislation governing national security within 100 miles of the border. I've actually posted articles warning people about the border issue. I just told you there is a distinction between what can be done via executive order and what requires a constitutional amendment. He absolutely can't change the constitution via executive order.
No shit they've been working on it. I've posted articles about that very thing. Hillary Clinton warned on May 6, 2016 they would try it. Pushing it out a week before the midterms election is an obvious ploy... in the same way making the caravan an election issue is. That's not really even debatable at this point. It's an obvious pre-election GOTV ploy. Even far right media understands that much. Go to redstate and see what they're saying. Anyone with half a brain knows rushing this out a week before an election is a GOTV strategy.
That is cateorically false. There's no requirement that two of your parents have to be US citizens. This is right wing conspiracy bunk from the lead up in '08 elections that was debunked over a decade ago.
If you ever served in the US military, you'd know this shit. Soldiers have children with non-citizens overseas on foreign soil and their children are considered natural born citizens.
As someone who's been "thru the process" I can tell you first hand that the United States doesn't give a rat's ass if your children are American citizens. The whole "anchor baby" thing is a myth.
My ex-father in law was an illegal from Nigeria who had three American born kids AND an American born wife. He had been here nearly 20 years when he got arrested for a DUI and sent to a deportation camp. The only reason he's not living in Lagos right now is because Ron Dellums fought on his behalf.
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