Why No School Should Be Named After Booker T. Washington
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Didn't read or watch video and I'm not trying to derail. It's a damn shame Booker T and W.E.B. DuBois couldn't work TOGETHER
This has always bothered the shit outta me. Because those divisions still exist today.
Regarding the post, I'm sure Mr. Washington would have zero fucks about anyone's opinion of himself. Marcus Garvey certainly thought very highly of Washington.
And later on in life. Dubois became more Pan African in ideology anyway. More in line with the black self sufficient philosophy of Washington.
This has always bothered the shit outta me. Because those divisions still exist today.
Regarding the post, I'm sure Mr. Washington would have zero fucks about anyone's opinion of himself. Marcus Garvey certainly thought very highly of Washington.
And later on in life. Dubois became more Pan African in ideology anyway. More in line with the black self sufficient philosophy of Washington.
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All this shit about "We are not our ancestors" meme I see. Pisses me the hell off. People like that have NO IDEA what it took to live in the antebellum south where you could get killed just for LOOKING at a white man.
They've no idea how much HEART our ancestors had. How they did that shit FOR US! So WE could look a white man directly in his eyes and tell him FUCK YOU CRACKA. Now our people shitting on them. Makes me hostile man
I swear black folk will lionize anyone black without looking into their character. There’s a reason why black conservatives ( you know, the ones we call coons ) love this man.
Malcolm preached the same self reliance and railed against white liberals........kinda like black conservatives do. Yet they don’t fuck with him ( I wonder why....
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Don’t worry, 100 years from now, Larry Elder and Jesse Lee Peterson will be views as ‘ancestors’ that command our respect.
Malcolm preached the same self reliance and railed against white liberals........kinda like black conservatives do. Yet they don’t fuck with him ( I wonder why....
)Don’t worry, 100 years from now, Larry Elder and Jesse Lee Peterson will be views as ‘ancestors’ that command our respect.
Our Black Leaders are/were human and I’ll treat them as such.
I have no beef with Booker T.
There are thing about Malcolm X I didn’t like and he is my favorite Black Leader of all times.
I have no beef with Booker T.
There are thing about Malcolm X I didn’t like and he is my favorite Black Leader of all times.
That's great. Let's send our kids to the schools that Malcolm X started. Oh wait....I swear black folk will lionize anyone black without looking into their character. There’s a reason why black conservatives ( you know, the ones we call coons ) love this man.
Malcolm preached the same self reliance and railed against white liberals........kinda like black conservatives do. Yet they don’t fuck with him ( I wonder why....
Don’t worry, 100 years from now, Larry Elder and Jesse Lee Peterson will be views as ‘ancestors’ that command our respect.
"Cast down your buckets where. you are"... Booker T built the school and worked with the people. WEB joined the Communists who pushed him to subsume his blackness within Marxism-Leninism. He changed, however as someone else pointed out in this thread to a pan-African view. I think we ought to learn from both.
These youngins are lacking perspective. There struggle is much different than the past and they are unable to see it. For example, today, police brutality is a big issue. 50 or 60 years ago, police brutality against black. was just a spec of a bigger issue Black was dealing with.
So, they are lacking perspective and it’s our job to make sure they see it or at least understand that they have to turn off their contemporary lense to understand the way certain Blacks lived or seen the world at the time.
And as an older generation, we have to understand that today’s world is different for the youngins.
Hard to build anything when your under constant siege from the government and popped before your 40th birthday.
I guess if Umar finally builds that school he’ll be up there with Booker, right?
I just can’t wait for when they turn Obama into the greatest black leader in the history of America.
Umar WONT be building a school. Are you still thinking that's an actual thing ?
But even in the way off chance that he did, he's got to build a school that is still here in 150 years and have the number of students pass through it. And Tuskegee isn't even the only school Booler T was a part of building. There are hundreds. And they're still here. But again, Umar WONT, so it's not even a discussion. Please don't even mention that charlatans innthense sentence again. It's already hard enough to take some of y'all serious.
Tupac said that shit about triggering the mind that would change the world. Booker T really DID.
There is no institution that Malcolm X left. And what makes you think he had it harder than a guy who literally lived in slavery? That whole argument is ridiculous.
I’ve long dismissed Umar regarding that school.
My point is that we turn some of these figures into Gods while dismissing damning flaws against their character.
BTW, he agrees with you about Booker T....lol.
Malcolm built Mosques all over this country. Plus a couple in Europe. He also was quite instrumental in developing the University of Islam all over the country.
If not for Malcolm X, the NOI would still be localized with one or two Mosques in the Chicago and Detroit areas and THAT'S IT. Malcolm grew up during JIM CROW (Omaha, Nebraska style) so he didn't exactly have things easy.
soemthin about this girl rubs me the wrong way..her vocal tone.. almost reminds me of of that bedwench coon candace, theres more to this girl we will find out soon enuff ,shes like one of those "Prager university black chicks
I think her hunger for fame is bigger than her knowledge of history.
Of you can find ALL the grey area between a god, and a guy who built a ton of schools, and far further below , scumbags like Umar, we may have somewhere to start a discussion.
Who the fuck cares about the NOI? They ain't done shit TO anything but Malcolm himself. By the time he died by their hands he wasn't in it. Muhammad Ali wasn't either , ad neither was the Elijahs son. All they do now is sell beanpies and bum on the corner.
The waters are so muddy I'm saddened when ppl make these videos trying to Wade in them.
Booker t Washington did what he could to make things better for us.
He didn't do it perfectly because he was a human we are imperfect
I just won't take advice on how people who tried should be remembered from people who have their health and time and aren't trying for the same thing period.
The ppl that get casually dissed knew they had 1 shot at life and dedicated it to helping us out. We're the future they were talking about "one day"
And you can summize and shit on a lifetime dedication in 2 minutes and try to totally invalidate everything that literally took a lifetime to accomplish
Booker t Washington did what he could to make things better for us.
He didn't do it perfectly because he was a human we are imperfect
I just won't take advice on how people who tried should be remembered from people who have their health and time and aren't trying for the same thing period.
The ppl that get casually dissed knew they had 1 shot at life and dedicated it to helping us out. We're the future they were talking about "one day"
And you can summize and shit on a lifetime dedication in 2 minutes and try to totally invalidate everything that literally took a lifetime to accomplish
That's the Internet for you fam....I bet some think Malcolm and Booker T had Google and Youtube back them. And camera phones
I can acknowledge shortcomings like the next man I can't discard shit people did when they could have gotten killed for it by REGULAR WHITE PEOPLE and nobody would've batted an eye.
Biggest failure of the older generation. The youth are lost because the older generation did not teach or maintain legacy. They got a few social gains and lost their way. This idiot chick is a testament to that. Someone from the older generation raised her.
I think Bookers message of self reliance is one we can appreciate today while his "win white folks over with hard work" ideals were bullshit even then.
these same folks ride on highways/stay in hotels/carry currency etc named after racist cacs allday
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I would have thought it would be easier for blacks to learn and succeed in a trade at the time. Not because were not mental apt to do so but it would have been a more secure method of obtaining some wealth through trade. Most blacks were already impoverished and facing racism every min, I can't see being a CPA, lawyer etc at that time could have earned them a living. That because you learn a trade wasn't and shouldn't stop you from advancing in your studies to do more. I lived in a town in NJ where a GM plant was located and believe me damn near half the black population worked at that plant and they owned homes sent kids to college had as much wealth as their white counter part in the neighborhood through trade.
WYPIPO: "So we can keep Jefferson Davis, Robert E Lee, et al. names on our schools?"
Haven't seen the clip yet, but coming in with an open mind. I tell folks the same thing. ESPECIALLY Younger Brotherz and Sisterz
Booker T was one thing in front of white audiences and quite another thing to black folks behind closed doors. It is specifically why minister Farrakhan sent his daughter to Tuskegee.
I am a legacy of what Booker T accomplished as an Engineering graduate of Tuskegee University.
W.E.B. Du Bois and Booker T actually had ongoing secret correspondence with each other. Everything is not what it seems, especially not during a time when black folk had to be slick and sneaky to accomplish things for our people.
I wholeheartedly agree
I'm a W.E.B fan, but don't hate on Booker or judge him by the lens of 2018.
If our ancestors could see the outcome of their actions today I guarantee they would have taken different paths.
If our ancestors could see the outcome of their actions today I guarantee they would have taken different paths.
The black population at that time was 90% illiterate, and but the 1900s BECAUSE OF THESE SCHOOLS, Where 90% LITERATE. ALL THE SCHOOLS, BANKS, BUSINESSES, and CHURCHES built during this time , probably quadruples any of the same built from the 60s going forward. That's when Black folks were focused more on economics (which really caused integration more than politics). THIS is what conservatives like Thimas Sowell is talking about and people hate then for it. We're missing a vital component when we define black on tbe narrow terms we do today. But what Booker T constructed is STILL here, and that should tell people something.
Why would they do that when instigators they built then still exist? Anything that doesn't was torn down in the 50s and 60s when people began relying on politics for gains more than economics. The forced segregation ended up being a means to build community where integration came too early or on unclear terms. Booker T and Dubois disagreed because Blsck folks ain't a monolith as we like to always say- nowadays we say it but still try to force people into one box. Dubois definitely wasnt against building schools and businesses.
Bruh, you make it seem like they wanted to do that shit. Whites didn't believe that blacks should own anything, especially land. They were demanded to hand it over to white men, and those that refused to give it up were threatened with death, and those that didn't "ditch" their land, were hanged, shot, or burned alive. And many of those that were killed, were "rapists".
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