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THE WRESTLING THREAD: HHH KEEPS DOING HHH THINGS.....

"THE MAN" said:
muffin030ass on IG if anyone was wondering.
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Duece said:
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gdatruth said:
let's not beat around the Bush
she isn't white
she isn't blonde
and doesn't fit the traditional wwe mode

as long as their is this disconnect between nxt creative vs main roster creative the call-ups will die when they get to main roster

how is carmella and bliss more successful than bayley, sasha and Becky...the women that spearheaded the women's revolution. Bliss and Mela were complete afterthoughts on NXT. but all of sudden they carry the division? Dont give me they connect or are good heels...they got opportunities others dont get. The only one of the 4 horsewomen that has prolonged success is Charlotte (white, blonde, legacy)

where is samoa joe?
why is finn balor never in the main event?
why isn't big E main eventing?
why are there no women storylines that dont involve a white, blonde, not so great wrestler?
why is 205 live so much better now?

I could go on

why didn't kakumara beat AJ?
why mela and bliss win the 1st 2 mib matches?
why didn't sasha and bayley have a blowoff match at extreme rules?
why is mela/Ellsworth and Charlotte the only ppl ready for asuka?
what is amber moon doing...arguably the most athletic woman on the roster
what happens to velveteen Dream, street prophets and Belair when they get called up
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Don't forget Apollo Crews.
And what the hell is R-Truth doing.
 
chrislee said:
And Samoans
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i think Vince and most in the business respect the family but he didnt love em til he say dollar signs of the Rock leaving the company. He tried to replicate with Roman but the Rock was a once in a lifetime talent (and half black) but Vince seem to remeber that

other than the Rock & Roman to my recollection there havent been any mainstay main event wrestlers
even Nia Jax has been frustrated with her situtation on the woman's side, took a break per Rock's advise and now beefing with Bliss

Bliss & Nia fell out
Sasha & Charoltte arent as cool as they used to be

I guess when you see a friend getting every oppurunity that you think you deserve its hard to stay friends
 
That was some bullshit. I am tired of Roman vs. Brock:angry::curse:. Everyone wants to see Lashley vs. Brock. What was the point of bringing Lashley back if he is not going to have a program with Brock?
 
gdatruth said:
let's not beat around the Bush
she isn't white
she isn't blonde
and doesn't fit the traditional wwe mode

as long as their is this disconnect between nxt creative vs main roster creative the call-ups will die when they get to main roster

how is carmella and bliss more successful than bayley, sasha and Becky...the women that spearheaded the women's revolution. Bliss and Mela were complete afterthoughts on NXT. but all of sudden they carry the division? Dont give me they connect or are good heels...they got opportunities others dont get. The only one of the 4 horsewomen that has prolonged success is Charlotte (white, blonde, legacy)

where is samoa joe?
why is finn balor never in the main event?
why isn't big E main eventing?
why are there no women storylines that dont involve a white, blonde, not so great wrestler?
why is 205 live so much better now?

I could go on

why didn't kakumara beat AJ?
why mela and bliss win the 1st 2 mib matches?
why didn't sasha and bayley have a blowoff match at extreme rules?
why is mela/Ellsworth and Charlotte the only ppl ready for asuka?
what is amber moon doing...arguably the most athletic woman on the roster
what happens to velveteen Dream, street prophets and Belair when they get called up
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I can see Velveteen as a member of New Day. Or Lashley, Crews. Titus, and Benjamin join to form a new faction.
 
datboi said:
I can see Velveteen as a member of New Day. Or Lashley, Crews. Titus, and Benjamin join to form a new faction.
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if that happened it would be forced as hell
ya'll remeber how skeptical we were the New Day was 1st teased as a sterotypical gospel faction

it took them being themselves, winning over the crowd and WWE finally bought in...but even the buy in has been limited because they've been the hottest faction since the shield but unlike the shield no of em have gotten to shine on their own. Shit even the Wyatt family has been more succesful with Braun, Wyatt getting a title run and Bludgon brothers dominating the tag division

if you are Black in the WWE you have ceiling and I am still waiting for someone (maybe Velveteen) to break that glass ceiling but i wouldnt hold my breath
 
gdatruth said:
if that happened it would be forced as hell
ya'll remeber how skeptical we were the New Day was 1st teased as a sterotypical gospel faction

it took them being themselves, winning over the crowd and WWE finally bought in...but even the buy in has been limited because they've been the hottest faction since the shield but unlike the shield no of em have gotten to shine on their own. Shit even the Wyatt family has been more succesful with Braun, Wyatt getting a title run and Bludgon brothers dominating the tag division

if you are Black in the WWE you have ceiling and I am still waiting for someone (maybe Velveteen) to break that glass ceiling but i wouldnt hold my breath
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I definitely agree there is a very low ceiling for black wrestlers. However the need to get over and factions seem to be the way for them to push their merchandise. I was a big fan of the four horsemen, and Midnight Express and Nikita Koloff, Tony Atlas and Butch Reed I always hated the Dusty Rhodes, Hulk Hogan Magnum T.A. I have always wanted a Black version of the Four horseman. If you could pick any four Black wrestlers to create a new Horseman stable who would be

Ric Flair = Rock
Luger =Bobby Lashley
Arn Anderson = Ron Simmons
Tully Blanchard = Booker T

Rock is one of the greatest cutting promos
Lashley is clearly the Muscle and physically the most intimidating
Arn and Tully had the tag division on lockdown
Ron Simmons and Booker T both the best wrestler on their respected tag team and would dominate if teamed together.
Honorable mention Teddy Atlas and Buth Reed, Mark Henry

Who's on your Black 4 Horseman
 
datboi said:
I definitely agree there is a very low ceiling for black wrestlers. However the need to get over and factions seem to be the way for them to push their merchandise. I was a big fan of the four horsemen, and Midnight Express and Nikita Koloff, Tony Atlas and Butch Reed I always hated the Dusty Rhodes, Hulk Hogan Magnum T.A. I have always wanted a Black version of the Four horseman. If you could pick any four Black wrestlers to create a new Horseman stable who would be

Ric Flair = Rock
Luger =Bobby Lashley
Arn Anderson = Ron Simmons
Tully Blanchard = Booker T

Rock is one of the greatest cutting promos
Lashley is clearly the Muscle and physically the most intimidating
Arn and Tully had the tag division on lockdown
Ron Simmons and Booker T both the best wrestler on their respected tag team and would dominate if teamed together.
Honorable mention Teddy Atlas and Buth Reed, Mark Henry

Whose on your Black 4 Horseman
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In the kayfabe days my squad(all being in their prime) would have been Rock, Ernie Ladd, Butch Reed, and Booker T. Honorable mentions would have been Junkyard Dog(early 80s Mid-South version), Ron Simmons, Stevie Ray, Rocky Soulman Johnson, and Tony Atlas.

In the current era my squad would be Bobby Lashley, Shelton Benjamin, Kofi Kingston, and Big E. Honorable mention would be Mark Henry, Jay Lethal, Shane Strickland, and Kenny King.
 
THE DRIZZY said:
In the kayfabe days my squad(all being in their prime) would have been Rock, Ernie Ladd, Butch Reed, and Booker T. Honorable mentions would have been Junkyard Dog(early 80s Mid-South version), Ron Simmons, Stevie Ray, Rocky Soulman Johnson, and Tony Atlas.

In the current era my squad would be Bobby Lashley, Shelton Benjamin, Kofi Kingston, and Big E. Honorable mention would be Mark Henry, Jay Lethal, Shane Strickland, and Kenny King.
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You got to find a spot for New Jack and I like the kid Riccochet
 
datboi said:
You got to find a spot for New Jack and I like the kid Riccochet
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Riccochet can replace either Kenny King or Shane Strickland. New Jack I would prefer to keep a Gangsta with Mustapha Saed, but he could replace Rocky Johnson on my kayfabe second team.
 
gdatruth said:
if that happened it would be forced as hell
ya'll remeber how skeptical we were the New Day was 1st teased as a sterotypical gospel faction

it took them being themselves, winning over the crowd and WWE finally bought in...but even the buy in has been limited because they've been the hottest faction since the shield but unlike the shield no of em have gotten to shine on their own. Shit even the Wyatt family has been more succesful with Braun, Wyatt getting a title run and Bludgon brothers dominating the tag division

if you are Black in the WWE you have ceiling and I am still waiting for someone (maybe Velveteen) to break that glass ceiling but i wouldnt hold my breath
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He literally has all the odds stacked against him.

1) He's black so he won't get a serious push.
2) He's a NXT call-up, and they have not handled the majority of the call-ups well.
3) If he gets himself over without a serious push, any momentum that he did get on his own will be killed off because Vince is too petty to cash out on something that he didn't believe in or create.
 
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