Kawhi Leonard reportedly no longer wants to play for the Spurs
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If you know, you know.
Nah I'm not gonna play a dude like that just because we're not privy to stuff that happened behind the scenes.
Can't do that if he says he's not going to resign to the team they trade him to. The team won't make a trade for a Kawai rental.
Malawi made the first move. Shit shall get interesting.
My only fear for him is that he’s had a year off. This could be bad for his value come contract renewal if he under performs. And if he ends up playing with LeBron then is stock might fall drastically.
Leonard is a good ball player; I’m just not certain on his ability outside of the spurs’ system.
My only fear for him is that he’s had a year off. This could be bad for his value come contract renewal if he under performs. And if he ends up playing with LeBron then is stock might fall drastically.
Leonard is a good ball player; I’m just not certain on his ability outside of the spurs’ system.
What can the Clippers offer?? Boston has the best assets to offer of any team....
Turning down supermax, thinking he worth James Harden sneaker money, being a mute for 6 seasons, hiring his uncle to run all things Kawhi...Slightly retarded? He has a systematic approach to the game. Improved his game tremendously from college. What are basing this on, the way he doesn't speak?
Your obsession is getting concerning bro... Thats all im saying. Take that as you will.
Shoulda gone to Duncan. But small forwards get participation trophys of finals MVP for standing next to Bron. Ask Andre Iguodala.
Good point; I think hes a good player also but has certainly benefited from the spurs system; I doubt him and LBJ end up playing together....
No obsession.. Your obsession of me and that bball player is the thing is concerning...you've mention my name in bball threads I didn't speak in.. You have admitted to looking forward to my responses.. And Jus's making comments about subjects send off your bat signal to come and respond.. Notice I made a comment about two other players and you quickly responded to me and brought up some other player.. Never said my comment was addressed to you or said I was insulting a certain player but you was thirst to address me.. Very king t'ish I'm Jus's saying
There isn't a player in this draft even remotely worthy of a straight up trade. They're getting picks, other players, expiring contracts, etc for Kawhi.
oh damn
Turning down a super max? And his "retarded" self wasn't going to do shit with the extra anyways. And he's not getting a supermax next year.
What? He's going to eventually build a Magic Johnson financial empire? Wait, Shaq did.
San Antonio, have you lived there. You have to live there. He wants to live in LA, closer to his social circle. How many of professionals have turned down more money, more shine to live closer to home?
You ain't even left DC. Talking about somebody living in San Antonio Texas. Hell, there's worse places, but San Antonio Texas. San Antonio Texas.
They put him on the trading block last yr didnt they?What the fuck went wrong? Seemed like it was all love, he was a lock as their franchise guy, then outta nowhere shit went south quick! Did somebody fuck somebody's bitch or what?
"im obsessed but you obsessed with me being obsessed.."
Bro, you sounds even more retarded than Kawhi. What does this even mean?
Im here for thisHow the Lakers can land LeBron, Kawhi and Paul George
Kevin PeltonESPN Staff Writer
Could the L.A. Lakers build a new big three of LeBron James, Paul George and Kawhi Leonard this summer?
That's the kind of star-studded scenario Lakers fans have dreamed about since last making the playoffs five years ago, and that the rest of the NBA has feared. While it's a long shot, such a partnership is possible if the players involved really want it.
According to a report on Friday by ESPN's Chris Haynes, Leonard wants to be traded from the San Antonio Spurs. And as reported by ESPN's Adrian Wojnarowski, L.A. and particularly the Lakers are Leonard's destination of choice.
Let's run through the possibilities -- and the challenges.
How the Lakers could make it work financially
The Lakers signing George and James, both of whom can become unrestricted free agents if they decline 2018-19 player options, is easy enough. They can create sufficient cap room merely by waiving forward Luol Deng and stretching his contract, then renouncing the rights to their free agents.
Adding Leonard to the mix makes the math trickier -- even before we account for the fact that he's still under contract with the San Antonio Spurs, who would have to sign off on a trade. (More on that in a bit.)
Though Leonard is making substantially less than the current max salary at $20.1 million for 2018-19, combining his salary with max ones for LeBron (an estimated $35.4 million) and George (estimated $30.3 million because he's two years shy of the experience necessary for the largest max bracket for players with 10-plus years in the league) puts the Lakers over $85 million in salary without considering any other players or the remaining amount of Deng's stretched salary.
That tight math makes it all but imperative the Lakers send Deng to San Antonio in a Leonard trade before signing George and James. How might that work?
Kawhi must ask for a trade to the Lakers
Timing is the biggest challenge to the Lakers pulling off a big three this summer. Any trade they make for a high-paid veteran like Leonard assuredly needs to be done before they sign free agents, because otherwise they'll already have waived Deng and be unable to include him as matching salary in a trade.
Given the reports of Leonard's desire to be traded -- and potentially to the Lakers -- we can assume that this request will be delivered to the Spurs. That request might preempt contract talks between San Antonio and Leonard.
As ESPN's Adrian Wojnarowski reported Wednesday, the Spurs and Leonard planned to meet sooner rather than later to discuss his future in San Antonio and a possible super-maximum designated veteran extension worth an estimated $219 million. If that offer doesn't come, or if Leonard wants out anyway, he needs to inform the Spurs quickly that they should trade him -- and, in this scenario, that he'd be willing to re-sign only with the Lakers, limiting his value to other teams.
Presumably, a Lakers package would be built around one of the last two No. 2 overall picks -- either Lonzo Ball or Brandon Ingram. Just how realistic a Leonard trade is depends in large part on how San Antonio values those two developing prospects. From a financial perspective, including Ball gives the Lakers slightly more flexibility because he'll count $7.5 million against the cap next season compared to Ingram's $5.8 million.
Sending back Ball or Ingram alone probably wouldn't get a deal done with the Spurs. Since Deng must be included in this version of a deal, the Lakers are going to need to add more value. That could mean parting with All-Rookie first-team pick Kyle Kuzma, whose ability to create shots is less valuable on a team with three superstars.
Let's say the Spurs are willing to do Ball, Deng and Kuzma for Leonard, pivoting to a younger roster built around the two second-year players plus point guard Dejounte Murray. As I outlined in our roundup of Leonard trade possibilities, the two teams could make that trade now by including the Orlando Magic (or another team with cap space or a trade exception of sufficient size) to take on Joffrey Lauvergne's salary for matching purposes.
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/...mes-paul-george-kawhi-leonard-nba-free-agency
3 small forwards? I guess. Now they got two people they can throw at KD.
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"im obsessed but you obsessed with me being obsessed.."
Bro, you sounds even more retarded than Kawhi. What does this even mean?
That's loud and clear. But OK. Forgot you speak in a different language, next topic.
That is what Crackas say about any good black male figure cutting Crackas off from leaching off their family
Welp, guess I'll be driving up to see some Laker games...
What the fuck? I’m starting to question if niggas here are actually men or women pretending to know about sports
Disagree
The Spurs system was holding him back until they tweaked it
When he had to do the ball movement thing he was ok
When they tweaked it so he had freedom to go 1 on 1 he jumped into elite status
He's a 1 on 1 player which is system proof
lavar has been quiet for the better part of the year
don't let facts get in the way of continually smearing a black father that's actually present.
You know it’s more than that. Nobody smears Dell Curry.
they tried to smear kyries dad tho
And you'll be waiting a long time....
Man, I don’t know. I’m not denying his ability to do well, I just think think he’s not a top tier offensively (yet). He top tier in SA which is where he would have got his max.
Going to a place where he may not be the only star could work for him. I don’t see him as a take over type player, but the year the got hurt was a great breakout year for him. After a year off, I feel like the expectations for him to do as well may be a lot to ask.
At the same time, being in LA may be exactly what he needs to refresh his career. He respects Kobe and at times you seen that he was clearly working with Kobe based on how he was playing.
SA really has little leverage here. Hold Leonard hostage for a year and watch him leave for nothing. Or get something. Send him to the Sixers for a year. But the Lakers have he most to offer.
Popovich will be seen as a plantation owner, negating all that equality talk. Meanwhile PG and Lebron will be getting a feel for the West. Really nothing they can do, but be stubborn.
Popovich will be seen as a plantation owner, negating all that equality talk. Meanwhile PG and Lebron will be getting a feel for the West. Really nothing they can do, but be stubborn.
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