More evidence that Barack Obama did NOTHING for black people!

[ballscout1]

You will just fall back to ‘specifically for Black people’ ignoring Black people are everywhere and affected by Trump’s bullshit.

And everybody else would get crumbs from anything done specifically for black people..In fact they got more than crumbs from affirmative action.

And you seem to think life is worse for us because of Trump's bullshit...

Tell me what exactly is worse for us than it was before Trump.

Told you before I grew up under Rockerfella, Reagan. Nixon, Ford, both Bushes. Koch, Guliani.

When CoIntelpro was in full effect..

Its been bad for black folks my entire life, now its bad for those who were comfortable because they wasn't us...Those that sat back and watched us be abused.

 

[ballscout1]

You left off the rest of that. When their opponant is white.

Don’t use anomalies to counter that. We have already been through it.

I’m in the suburbs not Chicago.

No matter who their opponent is being black doesn't make them good.

 

[ballscout1]

I agree its not illogical for black people to expect one of their own to benefit them. I think it is illogical to expect him to be able to do anything that appears to be specifically for black people in the racist society we live in. So anything he wanted to do would have to be included as a general legislation.

Black people work, the over time rules would have helped.
Black people retire, and are often taken advantage of financially, the laws saying that financial advisors have to work on behalf of their clients would have helped.
Both of which have been blocked by Trump.

Black people get sick and die from preventable diseases because they lacked healthcare. Obamacare allowed people to get healthcare.
Y'all act like we don't work and live like the rest of America.

Trump can do and say anything he wants because he has a congress that is going to fight for him and protect their own asses. Obama never had that sort of support. If Obama had even one of the scandals Trump has had, he would never have even gotten elected. Y'all sit on this site every damn day talking about how the playing field isn't level for black people, and how racist this country is. Did things somehow change for Obama? His white mama may have made people more comfortable in voting for him, but that background was no no shield for him.

Anytime he weighed in on any black issues, from Trayvon on, the rw media outlet got to work, and that is all we heard about. Everything he did or tried to do was painted as reparations for black people. He had people fighting him every step of the way, while Trump has people trying to give him cover every step of the way. Stop acting brand new. I know YOU of all people know better.

Which is why my complaints have always centered around things he could do without congressional approval.

There was a very small part of the population that the ACA allowed getting healthcare and the law was weak which is why the GOP was able to not implement it causing its problems to magnify

Obama didn't have Trumps kind of support even when he had numbers, Democrats didn't support Obama but that was an earlier post and I won't retype it.

And it doesn't matter what the RW media thinks they would never have accepted or agreed with Obama. If he walked on water they would say he couldn't swim.

 

[ballscout1]

You left off the rest of that. When their opponant is white.

Don’t use anomalies to counter that. We have already been through it.

I’m in the suburbs not Chicago.

What burb? you in a burb with a black population or did you move to live around the cacs ?

 

[Watcher]

And everybody else would get crumbs from anything done specifically for black people..In fact they got more than crumbs from affirmative action.

And you seem to think life is worse for us because of Trump's bullshit...

Tell me what exactly is worse for us than it was before Trump.

Told you before I grew up under Rockerfella, Reagan. Nixon, Ford, both Bushes. Koch, Guliani.

When CoIntelpro was in full effect..

Its been bad for black folks my entire life, now its bad for those who were comfortable because they wasn't us...Those that sat back and watched us be abused.

I’ve listed what is worse in numerous threads.

Let’s revisit this when Trump’s policies are in full effect. We are still benefiting from Obama. Around 2 years is when Trump will own everything.

I don’t know why you are ok with going backwards as with Reagan, Nixon, both Bushes. If you are honest you would admit over the last few decades republicans take control take the country into the toilet and then a Democrat cleans up the mess. Then is blamed for not doing enough.

 

[Camille]

Which is why my complaints have always centered around things he could do without congressional approval.

There was a very small part of the population that the ACA allowed getting healthcare and the law was weak which is why the GOP was able to not implement it causing its problems to magnify

Obama didn't have Trumps kind of support even when he had numbers, Democrats didn't support Obama but that was an earlier post and I won't retype it.

And it doesn't matter what the RW media thinks they would never have accepted or agreed with Obama. If he walked on water they would say he couldn't swim.

RW media does matter, because the rest of the MSM lets them set the narrative and code words for what ever is going on at the moment. They drown out any and everything else.

 

[Watcher]

What burb? you in a burb with a black population or did you move to live around the cacs ?

Lol. I didn’t say I live in southern Illinois.

I’m in Will county

 

[ballscout1]

RW media does matter, because the rest of the MSM lets them set the narrative and code words for what ever is going on at the moment. They drown out any and everything else.

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And that is years of inactivity. The reason the fairness doctrine is gone and there isn't programming like Gil Noble and Donahue.

And it doesn't matter because they won't allow anything to have a positive image so it makes no sense to try and worry about them.

And now we have a majority of society getting miss informed by social media.

we have parents giving their young children smart phones with no teaching about the internet.

those of us born before the internet had parents that determined what we watched and worked hard to control what we had access too and it worked especially when we were small.

 

[ballscout1]

Lol. I didn’t say I live in southern Illinois.

I’m in Will county

Will county is changing but a lot of it is lily white.

Will country doesn't have many black politicians at all at the country and state level..

 

[SPECTRE1]

1. Expanded the Food Stamp Program.
2. Extended Unemployment Benefits when unemployment rate was 16%.
3. Obamacare, which enabled greater access to healthcare for the poor with Medicaid and subsidies. The black middle class may have ended up paying more.
4. Criminal Justice Reform.

Cons
1. Made the Bush tax cuts permanent instead of lowering the corporate tax rate.
2. Weak housing assistance programs
3. Did not increase Pell Grants which was cut leading to 50% default rate on student loans for black borrowers.
4. Promoted free trade deals at the expense of domestic manufacturing jobs.

 

[ballscout1]

I’ve listed what is worse in numerous threads.

Let’s revisit this when Trump’s policies are in full effect. We are still benefiting from Obama. Around 2 years is when Trump will own everything.

I don’t know why you are ok with going backwards as with Reagan, Nixon, both Bushes. If you are honest you would admit over the last few decades republicans take control take the country into the toilet and then a Democrat cleans up the mess. Then is blamed for not doing enough.

I didn't say I was okay but I am not afraid because I have lived through bad...

That cleaning up the mess was only true of Obama...

But Republicans have taken over step by step because the democrats ain't shit and do the same thing over and over.

Don't tell me benefits for the whole country that we get some crumbs over......Tell me if the black community is in better shape,

 

[ballscout1]

1. Expanded the Food Stamp Program.
2. Extended Unemployment Benefits when unemployment rate was 16%.
3. Obamacare, which enabled greater access to healthcare for the poor with Medicaid and subsidies. The black middle class may have ended up paying more.
4. Criminal Justice Reform.

unemployment was expected for a limited time....when I was laid off that change didn't help me at all.

food stamps were done for black folks. more white people helped by this move

ACA was for those who had minimum wage jobs but made to much for Medicare but not enough to pay for insurance. more white people helped by this move

Criminal justice wasn't reformed but some moves were made.....but unless you a criminal then uit served no use..

I'll answer this shit when I get home but the day is over...

Dueces

 

[Watcher]

Will county is changing but a lot of it is lily white.

Will country doesn't have many black politicians at all at the country and state level..

Next largest population of Black people in Illinois outside of Cook. I’m almost certain

And yea not many Black politicians and too many republicans.

 

[BitchI'llKillYa]

And the majority of people didn't have money to buy other properties because their current property is underwater.

And while there has been a slow increase in value, very few properties regarding their value after dropping almost in half in many places.

And even if your shit is true it isn't reflective of the experience of most black people.

So he helped a black person... but don't be offended if I say I think your post to be bullshit.

Lol my house was also below water.
So was everyone in my neighborhood and city.

The folks that walked away and quit missed out.

I did not have money to even live when I was paying 4800 a month mortgage, with hamp and naca I got.my.mortage down to an affordable payment and kept my home.

Thay same home went from being worth sub 300k to over a million over the last 7 years.

I'm NOT the alone in this, a lot of black folk QUIT and did not take advantage.

But the opporunity would not have existed with out B.O.

Also please consider that unemployment went from well over 14%...

You know what, nevermind he NOTHING I just have to accept it.

 

[ballscout1]

Next largest population of Black people in Illinois outside of Cook. I’m almost certain

And yea not many Black politicians and too many republicans.

Until you get further away from Chicago except for Kankakee. ....but there still aren't black political machine..

University Park, part of Park Forest and Kankakee all have large black populations

 

[ballscout1]

Lol my house was also below water.
So was everyone in my neighborhood and city.

The folks that walked away and quit missed out.

I did not have money to even live when I was paying 4800 a month mortgage, with hamp and naca I got.my.mortage down to an affordable payment and kept my home.

Thay same home went from being worth sub 300k to over a million over the last 7 years.

I'm NOT the alone in this, a lot of black folk QUIT and did not take advantage.

But the opporunity would not have existed with out B.O.

Also please consider that unemployment went from well over 14%...

You know what, nevermind he NOTHING I just have to accept it.

HAMP made it affordable but still underwater. .

Don't know where you live but most locations value has even caught up to where it was much less triple in value.

Unemployment is still twice that of crakkas

And again those are crumbs not specivic ally for black folkx..

Since most of you excuse makers miss it .

Obamas intiative to get high speed broadband in the inner cities was something targeted towards lower income black folx to level educational resources.

Michelle intiative to address food deserts in the hood was also targeted towards the food choices available to lower income black folx..

 

[BitchI'llKillYa]

So cutting Black unemployment to lowest levels ever (unless Trump does it) means he did NOTHING, wow learning so much from you.

I live(d) in Oakland. But home values have risen all over the country, maybe not at the same rate but all are up.

Thanks for the edumacations... youre very enlightening.

HAMP made it affordable but still underwater. .

Don't know where you live but most locations value has even caught up to where it was much less triple in value.

Unemployment is still twice that of crakkas

And again those are crumbs not specivic ally for black folkx..

Since most of you excuse makers miss it .

Obamas intiative to get high speed broadband in the inner cities was something targeted towards lower income black folx to level educational resources.

Michelle intiative to address food deserts in the hood was also targeted towards the food choices available to lower income black folx..

 

[ballscout1]

So cutting Black unemployment to lowest levels ever (unless Trump does it) means he did NOTHING, wow learning so much from you.

I live(d) in Oakland. But home values have risen all over the country, maybe not at the same rate but all are up.

Thanks for the edumacations... younger very enlightening.

The rise in the bay area is not indicitive of the rest of the country. ....

The lowering of unemployment isn't as simple as everybody that wants a job has one.

But there wasn't anything done to target black unemployment. .......there was nothing to encourage hiring black people who have been cut out of many industries.

So stop acting like anything that may have also trickled down and benedited some black folks was policy targeted towards black people to level.opportunity

 

[BitchI'llKillYa]

Goal post moving should be an Olympic sport.

The rise in the bay area is not indicitive of the rest of the country. ....

The lowering of unemployment isn't as simple as everybody that wants a job has one.

But there wasn't anything done to target black unemployment. .......there was nothing to encourage hiring black people who have been cut out of many industries.

So stop acting like anything that may have also trickled down and benedited some black folks was policy targeted towards black people to level.opportunity

 

[BitchI'llKillYa]

 

[LSN]

You’re able to get married now aren’t you?

damn.

 

[ballscout1]

Goal post moving should be an Olympic sport.

While you in here talking about housing bubble in the bay.....Obama aint why your value is high.....and I have been consistent. ..you the one in here but can't name a specific thing even when I did...

Its not blasphemy to say obama was a great president for the US but was a disappointment in his lack of advocacy for black folks..

As a constitutional lawyer/professor he was well aware of CoIntelPro but offered no redress to those affected by it.

No other president in history provoked so much hope and tears yet he was muted..

And for 8 years his cabinet was noticeably absent blackness..

 

[Big Tex]

This mofokr said nuance..



Was anything dealing with fags and undocumented nuanced?

You act like he was sneaking food out from the big house.

But you are free from Obama hating black people now. You sould be happy to not have Obama ignoring black people anymore.

 

[ballscout1]

But you are free from Obama hating black people now. You sould be happy to not have Obama ignoring black people anymore.

Personally, I am ambivalent. Ignored by the government black or white ain't nothing new.

The only difference is that with Obama there was hope that we would finally have an advocate at the highest level of government. No different than women voting for a woman president. They think that woman will be their advocate because she will understand.. and with crakkas hope doesn't enter the equation because it is expected they will ignore us.

Same soup different bowl.

 

[shaddyvillethug]

Obama shoulda saved more of y’all niggas

 

[Heavenlywings77]

There are no gay black people?

He didn't do anything for "Gay black people" He did it for gay people. Put it this way. If only black people were gay hypothetically speaking, and they wanted to get married... We wouldn't have gay marriage still right now to this day.

 

[BitchI'llKillYa]

Gold Medal Effort

When did I say he was responsible for the value of my home?

You're talking in circles and saying nothing.

I kept my home because of him
I have my mom because of him
I have my brother because of him

I could go on but why

While you in here talking about housing bubble in the bay.....Obama aint why your value is high.....and I have been consistent. ..you the one in here but can't name a specific thing even when I did...

Its not blasphemy to say obama was a great president for the US but was a disappointment in his lack of advocacy for black folks..

As a constitutional lawyer/professor he was well aware of CoIntelPro but offered no redress to those affected by it.

No other president in history provoked so much hope and tears yet he was muted..

And for 8 years his cabinet was noticeably absent blackness..

 

[BitchI'llKillYa]

He didn't do anything for "Gay black people" He did it for gay people. Put it this way. If only black people were gay hypothetically speaking, and they wanted to get married... We wouldn't have gay marriage still right now to this day.

Lol

Just plain dumb... did you reread this?

Please EXPLAIN what laws you want on the books that impact ONLY Black people?

Reperations? You know that's a Congress thing, don' You? You looking for a handout and if you don' get it... he did NOTHING

 

[BigDaddyBuk]

While you in here talking about housing bubble in the bay.....Obama aint why your value is high.....and I have been consistent. ..you the one in here but can't name a specific thing even when I did...

Its not blasphemy to say obama was a great president for the US but was a disappointment in his lack of advocacy for black folks..

As a constitutional lawyer/professor he was well aware of CoIntelPro but offered no redress to those affected by it.

No other president in history provoked so much hope and tears yet he was muted..

And for 8 years his cabinet was noticeably absent blackness..

Black farmers aren't Black people?

HBCUs aren't full of Black people?

Crack sentencing laws werent designed to jail Black people?

Black people he pardoned and gave clemency to aren't Black people?

The My Brothers Keeper program isn't made up of specifically Black people?

The rule changes to give Black companies government contracts weren't for Black people?

And don't be a bitch ass nigga and say these things weren't enough. The argument is that he didn't do anything specifically for Black people. He did.

 

[BigDaddyBuk]

He didn't do anything for "Gay black people" He did it for gay people. Put it this way. If only black people were gay hypothetically speaking, and they wanted to get married... We wouldn't have gay marriage still right now to this day.

<(please press me. Thanks.)

 

[Dr. Truth]

Black farmers aren't Black people?

HBCUs aren't full of Black people?

Crack sentencing laws werent designed to jail Black people?

Black people he pardoned and gave clemency to aren't Black people?

The My Brothers Keeper program isn't made up of specifically Black people?

The rule changes to give Black companies government contracts weren't for Black people?

And don't be a bitch ass nigga and say these things weren't enough. The argument is that he didn't do anything specifically for Black people. He did.

These niggas on here wanted Khalid Mohammad as president. Clown ass niggas man

 

[ballscout1]

Black farmers aren't Black people?

HBCUs aren't full of Black people?

Crack sentencing laws werent designed to jail Black people?

Black people he pardoned and gave clemency to aren't Black people?

The My Brothers Keeper program isn't made up of specifically Black people?

The rule changes to give Black companies government contracts weren't for Black people?

And don't be a bitch ass nigga and say these things weren't enough. The argument is that he didn't do anything specifically for Black people. He did.

Black farmers aren't Black people?

Dude that lawsuit was settled in 1999. Obama signed a measure to fund the settlement and the settlement didn't include all affected black farmers

HBCUs aren't full of Black people?

Obama raised funding after first cutting it. Bet none of his kids attend one though

Crack sentencing laws werent designed to jail Black people?

Crack sentencing is still not equal.

Black people he pardoned and gave clemency to aren't Black people?

He didn't pardon black people and I have said over and over again that clemency is window dressing because they are still felons so it wasn't a second chance. But look at those he did pardon.

The My Brothers Keeper program isn't made up of specifically Black people?

My brothers keep challenge is a voluntary partnership.Kind of like bailing out the banks and hoping they volunteer to invest in the community.which they didn't...Maybe there should have been some strings attached

The rule changes to give Black companies government contracts weren't for Black people?

No rules were changed. Operating policy committed to allowing black and minority business to participate in government procurements. That and minority is how white women ended up being the biggest benefactors of affirmative action.



And don't be a bitch ass nigga and say these things weren't enough. The argument is that he didn't do anything specifically for Black people. He did.


Stop fukkn reaching.

 

[ballscout1]

Simply amazing how hard some of you work to explain why Obama couldn't do anything.

 

[BigDaddyBuk]

Black farmers aren't Black people?

Dude that lawsuit was settled in 1999. Obama signed a measure to fund the settlement and the settlement didn't include all affected black farmers

HBCUs aren't full of Black people?

Obama raised funding after first cutting it. Bet none of his kids attend one though

Crack sentencing laws werent designed to jail Black people?

Crack sentencing is still not equal.

Black people he pardoned and gave clemency to aren't Black people?

He didn't pardon black people and I have said over and over again that clemency is window dressing because they are still felons so it wasn't a second chance. But look at those he did pardon.

The My Brothers Keeper program isn't made up of specifically Black people?

My brothers keep challenge is a voluntary partnership.Kind of like bailing out the banks and hoping they volunteer to invest in the community.which they didn't...Maybe there should have been some strings attached

The rule changes to give Black companies government contracts weren't for Black people?

No rules were changed. Operating policy committed to allowing black and minority business to participate in government procurements. That and minority is how white women ended up being the biggest benefactors of affirmative action.



And don't be a bitch ass nigga and say these things weren't enough. The argument is that he didn't do anything specifically for Black people. He did.


Stop fukkn reaching.

Everything you just said is either an outright lie or horribly mischaracterized.

When a person shows immense dishonesty like you just did, I realize they aren't noble enough for me to even speak to.

In other words, a man who isn't honest is not a man.

You sir, are not a man.

 

[BitchI'llKillYa]

See my last post to thay cat....

Everything you just said is either an outright lie or horribly mischaracterized.

When a person shows immense dishonesty like you just did, I realize they aren't noble enough for me to even speak to.

In other words, a man who isn't honest is not a man.

You sir, are not a man.