This... The avg employee that everyone likes is harder to fire than the talented asshole.
Mo'Nique Breakfast Club Interview...she buggin.
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First of all, why are you getting emotional and name-calling, family? Do you see me going hard at you? Calm that down, kin.
Your piece about her reasoning being none of my business is misplaced. First of all, she's constantly (and everyone she negotiates with professionally's) serving the public her business. So questioning her reasoning is something any of us can do when she presents that business to us. Her "not owing me an explanation" is just you being emotional. If she wants us to be behind her and what she's saying, then yeah she does owe all of us an explanation. We want to know the particulars. If she doesn't want us to know them, then she can handle her biz privately and stay off the airwaves. However, I don't perceive that to be the case. It's you who feels that way. SHE has been candid for the most part when questioned.
No, I wasn't familiar with the particulars of the studio email leak. Based on what you said though regarding Kevin Hart, it does illustrate that if one is in demand they have the juice to get people to bend to their will. I'd wager they name-called Kevin because he forced their hand and they ended up having to give him exactly what he asked for. Mo'Nique indicated that when she was asked to promote the film she verbalized to Lee Daniels that she wasn't going to do that. Instead she would spend time with her family. She did not indicate whether in that exchange she first demanded to be compensated. When that conversation occurred, she did not have the same juice as Kevin. She's never in her entire career been as in demand as Kevin Hart has been in the last 5 years or so.
But also, what you shared reveals that Mo'Nique isn't the only actor to question unpaid compensation for promotion. Point taken.
You said that after Lee Daniels paid Mo'Nique $50K , he sold the film for millions. Before that, did he have the budget to pay them more or did he pay them what he was able at the time? Are you saying that after he made that deal, he should have gone back and hit everyone up with more money out of the goodness of his heart? Based on what you typed, I'm not seeing how he shit on her. Had she agreed to do the promotion, it stood to benefit her over time. Hence my saying that what may be permissible to do is not always expedient in the long run.
Also, I would offer that her not bending to Lee Daniels will in the case of Precious was not the only nor the primary thing that effected her career negatively. I would say it's her putting all of these folks on blast publicly and repeatedly and consistenly offering herself up as a victim year after year.
Ofay logic? Really? SMH
Read the last sentence of the previous paragraph.
Mo "Nique does have a lot of raw talent. Maybe she should fire her husband as a career move. She was on one television show and she was rapping way better than the pro rappers. I had meant to record that episode.
I still can't believe she is still going on about this. How long did Amy do a tour about her pay?
My man, im convinced reading comprehension isnt your strong suit. What was emotional about what i said and where did i name call? No wonder you continue to draw so may bad conclusions and interpretations from what Monique said.
No its not misplaced. Your insistence on her providing an explanation is whats misplaced. Her issue isnt predicated on her rationale to do free promotion 10 years ago you dam fool ( now that was a name call fyi...but there was no emotion attached i assure you). And me telling you that isnt a sign of me being emotional.. Its a sign of me being confused at your absurd logic. YOU are the one continuing to focus on her decision from 10 years ago. I merely did you a courtesy of responding to that irrelevant point to attempt to illustrate that you were wrong for continuing to reference it as pertinent to this current issue at hand... The issue at hand is alleged discrimination by corporate entity. Stay focused.
So now its about juice and being in position to refuse? You're moving the goalpost my man. First you accuse her of dismissing Whoopi's advice which was to encourage her to play the game because that was expected and standard operating procedure in hollywood. Now when i provide PROOF to the contrary you ignore it and say its about having juice to refuse. You're full of shit bro... You cant even be consistent on your own rules, so why should Monique adhere to them when you cant? You also failed to acknowledge the distinction between the two. Kev was actually paid millions from the studio expecting him to to free promotion. Monique was paid 50k from the cat who sold the film to a major studio. She was paid a nominal fee and had no moral of legal obligation. Period. Her financial status is immaterial. And again, to continue to focus on this 10 year old matter only serves to distract from the actual issue at hand... Thats her claims questioning the offer Netflix made and their methods of negotiation.
What he paid her isnt the issue. Not really. Im saying that she fulfilled her obligation. And once Lee sold the rights for millions it became property of the studio. The studio had no relation or contract with her and thus no expectation/obligation from Monique. So expecting her to forego other paid opportunities to promote their product for free was unreasonable. And criticizing her for making that decision is unreasonable. Her expectation of compensation was reasonable. To vilify her for that is a joke. To use that to discredit her claim against netflix 10 years later is a bigger joke. Thats what im saying.
Who did she put on blast? I only saw her respond to leaks and rumors posted by others. You seem to have a standard of conduct you hold her to that you dont have for others. I have no problem with her using like forums and mediums to respond to those who publicly criticize and slander her.
You stay focused. The paragraph you replied to was discussing you saying she doesn't owe anyone an explanation and that her business is her business. MY absurd logic? You're telling me that I continue to focus on her her decision from ten years ago. Man, that's what SHE was talking about in the interview in the exchange with Whoopi that led to this exchange that we're having. Her issues began with her refusal to do free promotion for Precious.
Where in that The View interview did you hear her say that by promoting Precious they expected her to forego other paid opportunities? She said she wanted to take that time out to spend with family. Where did you hear me vilify her for the decision that she made in that case? I spoke of how she might be perceived as a diva and how her decision might not have been expedient in the long run. As far as Netflix goes: There's not a demand for her comparable to the other comedians in the conversation. Her claiming to be "the most decorated comedian alive", "the female Richard Pryor" is simply not quantifiable and is inaccurate in the case of the former. I do think $500,000 is not a lot of money. However, it's clear that her putting folks, private conversations and companies on blast with consistency and portraying herself a victim in just about every interview she does has turned folks off from wanting to work with her. This is not to mention her reliance on her inept husband to be a spokesperson for her. For the past few years it's kind of expected that when Mo'Nique speaks in an interview it's going to be about how someone has done her wrong. Netflix clearly knows her marketability and options are limited and they offered her very little as a result. That's the business part of things.
I moved no goalposts. I just pointed out the reality that since Kevin had the leverage of being hot/in demand, he was able to get what he wanted but Mo'Nique did not have similar leverage. That's the reality of the business. It's no cause for celebration. It just is what it is. I see you failed to respond to the part where I said you had a point in underlining the fact that someone else had an issue with doing unpaid promotion - it's not just Mo'Nique. I said it to say that it appears that among actors opinions vary as to who finds it offensive, who goes along to get along and who thinks it's ok is cool with doing it. You're so set on throwing out ad hominem attacks and trying to win, that you're missing when I'm conceding a point to you.
Oprah Winfrey. Netflix.
I don't have a problem with her saying anything she wants to say. However, there is a price to pay when one negatively name drops on a consistent basis and has inept, inexperienced management with poor people skills. We are seeing her paying that price now. Do I think she should have been blacklisted? Nope. I don't like it that every time I've seen her since this Netflix issue came up that she has the exact same simple hairstyle. That is an indicator that she isn't doing well financially and I don't like that either. I want her to do well, but I'm frustrated because I feel like she shoots herself in the foot a LOT.
This is what I think on the Mo'Nique. How I see it. I don't care about "winning" a debate. I'm not here to debate. I'm here to discuss, hear others, become educated and to give my two cents.
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That issue was brought up and she was compelled to answer and explain it. YOU decided to focus on it, and paint her as being dismissive. I corrected your summation and asked you to refocus on the current matter.
Hey bro... at this point its become circular. And any response i give will only be a rehash of everything ive already stated in our exchange. I maintain that you were wrong in your assertion that she was dismissive and self righteous. I also maintain that her commentary regarding others has been in response to and in her defense of herself against those she feels have insulted and slandered her. I have no problem with her responding in kind. I also think she is fully entitled to question how Netflix negotiates and if there is bias present in that method. Those spectators who seem convinced that she is somehow deserving to be attacked and that Netflix is beyond reproach are clowns imo.
If new information or points become available i have no problem continuing the conversation.. but at this point its become a dead horse.
She's a bgoler in real time.Folk always talkin bout having ya own. How she is gonna go at a breh with his own studio? It makes me
seeing her rant and rave name calling.
Oprah and Tyler are on that generational paper. Stress got monique out here like she 60 plus.
She does look old. She looks like her husbands mother and shit. Oprah promoting her new movie looking unbothered. Stedman never is seen unlike Mo’s lame ass husband.
Stedman out here making paper on the quiet. Its sad folk want fame and cake above their networth like they need air.
Monique could have done that press junket and got back on the grind via taking acting classes hell putting in a call via Sidney Portier or Denzel and said help me. She could cut them a check for their time. Reinvested an reinvented herself and worked on the humble to comeup via a bigger pay day later. O is the ultimate connect her circle is crazy with talent.
But why does ALL of what happened or was said or was negotiated in private have to be made public? It's to the point where that's all she talks about. When you see her coming, you know what you're gonna get from her - and that's long before the Netflix thing. She brings up all this old stuff, man. Podcasts about it -retells the same old stories. Wash, rinse, repeat. One would think at some stage, she'd just talk about her projects, hobbies, current endeavors and her career highlights sans controversy. If interviewers bring shit up, it doesn't mean she always has to bite. And ditch Sidney -already at least as a manager and someone who answers her questions for and with her.
For the most part, you and I differ on the issue of her being "attacked" and that's ok. To each his own. There are so many variables when it comes to Mo'Nique that although I wouldn't completely discount the possibility of some sort of racial/sexual bias on the part of Netflix, there are are so many other reasons that make more sense.
This is a "damned if you do damned if you dont" situation. If she makes her claim without disclosing any details she will be doubted and questioned. When she does provide detail she is attacked for releasing private negotiations. Also, most of what she disclosed was done in response to those who attacked her credibility and pretended to be privy to behind the scenes information. She countered the bullshit with actual facts.
Don't respond to that idiot BB
1. Yup
2. She just said that she will make 2 million in 2 years time. So she is worth that.
3. Wanda got offered 250k you think if she was white they would have offer her that? This isn't about MO is about the same old dirty shit they been doing. That black don't sell .
I have watched 17 minutes of this so far. To me she is right and her husband is right. But I think that old boy was wrong coming out making her look a certain way. Especially if he had not contacted her and if she wrong try shed some light to her personally. Shit they are acting like she is not part of our black family in front of these devils. When I first heard about what she was trying to do it did not fade me in any way because I am not in the business at all. But that putting her on the defense seems to be making her look bad.
I never heard of Amy Schumer until now. So far I have never checked out any of her stuff yet.
I never heard of Amy Schumer until now. So far I have never checked out any of her stuff yet.
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That's her whole style. Scribble all over the chalkboard and let idiots spend time trying to clean it up.
Will Packer blasts Mo’Nique for comparing him to disgraced Harvey Weinstein
https://rollingout.com/2018/02/26/will-packer-blasts-monique-comparing-disgraced-harvey-weinstein/
Famed filmmaker Will Packer is getting tired of comedienne Mo’Nique putting his name in her mouth and then spitting it out onto the sidewalk to step over.
Mo’Nique audaciously (and some say recklessly) compared the prolific movie producer (Girls Trip, Think Like a Man, Ride Along) to the disgraced Harvey Weinstein as she fired shots at him again while she was a guest on “The Breakfast Club” late last week.
Packer has decided to clap back at the Oscar-winning actress, but without spitting poison. The two famously clashed continuously on the set of Almost Christmas, and Packer’s name has come up during Mo’Nique’s one-woman crusade to protest Netflix’s low ball offer for her to do a special on their streaming service.
On the show, Charlamagne tha God, whom Mo’Nique referred to by his government name of Lenard, vehemently contested Mo’Nique’s stance to compare Packer to the vile Hollywood producer who allegedly sexually assaulted and raped scores of women over four decades.
Here’s a quick recap of the radio interview:
Mo’Nique:”You know the guy Harvey Weinstein, he was able to do that for how many years? Do you think this is a unique situation? Do you think people are fearful to speak out when they’re mistreated.”
Charlamagne: “There’s a difference between mistreatment and sexual assault Mo’Nique. You can’t put out false equivalencies about people.”
Sidney Hicks: “Wait a minute Charlemagne, you’re absolutely right but mistreatment is mistreatment.”
Charlamagne: “You can’t paint Will with the same brush as Harvey Weinstein.”
The contentious discussion eventually spilled onto social media:
https://rollingout.com/2018/02/26/will-packer-blasts-monique-comparing-disgraced-harvey-weinstein/
Famed filmmaker Will Packer is getting tired of comedienne Mo’Nique putting his name in her mouth and then spitting it out onto the sidewalk to step over.
Mo’Nique audaciously (and some say recklessly) compared the prolific movie producer (Girls Trip, Think Like a Man, Ride Along) to the disgraced Harvey Weinstein as she fired shots at him again while she was a guest on “The Breakfast Club” late last week.
Packer has decided to clap back at the Oscar-winning actress, but without spitting poison. The two famously clashed continuously on the set of Almost Christmas, and Packer’s name has come up during Mo’Nique’s one-woman crusade to protest Netflix’s low ball offer for her to do a special on their streaming service.
On the show, Charlamagne tha God, whom Mo’Nique referred to by his government name of Lenard, vehemently contested Mo’Nique’s stance to compare Packer to the vile Hollywood producer who allegedly sexually assaulted and raped scores of women over four decades.
Here’s a quick recap of the radio interview:
Mo’Nique:”You know the guy Harvey Weinstein, he was able to do that for how many years? Do you think this is a unique situation? Do you think people are fearful to speak out when they’re mistreated.”
Charlamagne: “There’s a difference between mistreatment and sexual assault Mo’Nique. You can’t put out false equivalencies about people.”
Sidney Hicks: “Wait a minute Charlemagne, you’re absolutely right but mistreatment is mistreatment.”
Charlamagne: “You can’t paint Will with the same brush as Harvey Weinstein.”
The contentious discussion eventually spilled onto social media:
I watched the whole interview and charlamagne was an idiot for failing to see the point of her bringing up weinstein...it wasn’t to paint packer and daniels in the same light as him but to illustrate that if ppl would keep quiet about something as serious as sexual assault and rape to protect their careers then why wouldn’t they keep quiet about simply being mistreated professionally by packer and daniels in response to yee asking monique why no one has spoken up and shared her views of the two men...charlamagne either didn’t get or was just flat out being disingenuous in his response...it was not equating them @ all...I wish they had responded better @ the time when he tried to flip it and go off topic on that shit
Nah, you can’t go out there and just bring my name up with those of the likes of sexual predators just to make a point. There are better ways of making an example of the situation. And people have been calling Harvey Rapestein for years, not just recently. I haven’t heard anything about Will Packer or even Lee Daniels at all. Not even a peep of any wrong doings. She was out of line for that shit regardless of how she was trying to make a comparison.
that was her fucking point...not too many ppl heard anything about weinstein (even tho ppl will try to say they did now in hindsight) and what he was doing was fucking criminal yet ppl kept their mouths shut to protect their careers so of course it’s absolutely possible to fathom ppl would keep quiet about being mistreated to protect their careers...charlamagne insisted on looking @ it as a parallel as opposed to a varying degree to try and distract from her point...if the “industry” would not speak up about something as serious as sexual assault/rape then why the hell would they be quick to speak up about verbal abuse/mistreatment...what she said made perfect sense
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And notice she ain't told not naan joke in any of this. We're supposed to be anticipating a special from this cranky shit?
Lol look at bum ass Mysonne trying to stay cool with Charlemagne so he can.get back on the show but still trying to look like he's "standing strong with the sistas" so he can get in on some of that "woke". Publicity
C’mon bro. If someone used a known sexual predator to make a point about something it would piss you off too. Especially if there isn’t anything that has connected you to any mistreatment of others. She could’ve just said “a lot times people don’t come in fear of their careers.” Simple! But she used a mofo that has been a known sexual predator for decades. And people have spoke on Harvey Raper for years. I get that she was making a point but it was hugely uncalled for to use a sexual predator to make the point. That is the point I’m making.
damn Mo'nique just pulled a trump
she blurt that shit out and now people are talking about that instead of the fact netflix don't want to waste their money on her.
good deflection LOL
damn that interview got two million views and counting...
she needs to do a show right now while her name is still hot on these internets...
she needs to do a show right now while her name is still hot on these internets...
Exactly. Her analogies are shitty, ill-fitting and insulting.
if she was smart she would
You said a mouthful lol
NOTICE it doesn't even say she couldn't use the same material in clubs. Just on other recorded formats. That's common sense. Put out a special with Netflix then put bits of the same shit out on a radio or online format? Fuck no.
Whos Yvette
Im gonna try to watch the entire interview tonite. But of the snippets ive seen, it appears that CTG spends the entire interview carrying water for Netflix. Kinda like a lot of posters here. He asked her about other black comedians that got lowballed and when she told him Wandas resume and offer he says "well, i spoke with Netflix and that was before the guy who is making offers now came on board."... wtf!?
When Boyce said she had a white girlfriend I was done.
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