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#MeToo movement has a major problem
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There is nothing to disagree about. What I posted was factual. Not only do women leave STEM because of discrimination, they get hired less because of discrimination.... make less because of discrimination. The raw numbers don't change the bad percentages that reflect that women aren't getting hired proportionate to their numbers.
You have 15 years experience? Ok. That's nice anecdotal evidence. I started and sold my first tech company before you were even in the industry.
I think that point is not that important.. but im bringing it up because you're waving your little 15 years like it's something.. whippitty doo da.
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The same excuse you use is the same excuse CAC use for not hiring black people. The raw number is less important than the percentage of those that actually get placed or get their started funded, etc.
Disagreeing with what I've written is disagreeing with reality. You don't disagree with me. You disagree with facts.
SMH
This is anecdotal evidence. You were at ONE job fair.
There are massive studies on this. There are massive reports done on this by tech companies. There are massive initiatives by women in tech (many of them I know personally to lay out the difficulties women face is getting hired, getting compensated on par with their male peers, getting promoted as the rate of their male peers, etc.
There is no argument to be had here. Don't confuse your little experience at a job fair of a company trying to fill a quota with the entire industry. There is no debate here. We have the data on this.
Paying compliments naw I'm a gentleman i open doors , look out for all the elderly.
Complements are for the wife that's it
I have one co-worker (black man and my homie) that stay saying borderline inappropriate stuff to females.
I honestly, don't know how he has lasted this long.
I know some dudes like this, it’s like the stuff men say to men about women they will say it TO WOMEN!!! You be like dude are you crazy. I used to work with a dude that was always trying to hug women when he saw them, he said whenever he hugged them he’d try to position his hand so that when he wrapped his arm around them it would brush against her titty. I told dude he was gonna get his ass fired, one woman told me that women know what men that are “huggers” be trying to do so they try to avoid them or keep their arms in tight if they allow them to hug them
Youre on a porn/depravity message board as a woman. A place where men talk shit about women.
Let’s see.... hmmm... hnic threatened to ban anyone who disses a female on this site. So, it appears that the woman (me2) bullshit has also infiltrated porn boards. You come to our site, desperately seek attention and validation from men, solely based off of the fact that you’re a woman and nothing else, then when niggas call you out, you cry to hnic (just like how women will cry to human resource) that you’re being harassed.
It’s not my fault y’all ain’t shit. All I’m doing is stating facts.
THIS is Bullshit.
If you want to get to the bottom of the problems Women in America and many places around the world you need to look at
This...
And THIS
And THIS
Peace,
Most of these conversations tend to go the same way. These are some of the same cats who’ve made it clear that they’d rather be with sex dolls than actual women.
Most of these conversations tend to go the same way. These are some of the same cats who’ve made it clear that they’d rather be with sex dolls than actual women.
Agree. and I only care about black men to be frank. We get lumped with those others way too much there's no nuance.
It doesn't mean that it doesn't happen just means its an outlier more than the norm for us.
THIS is Bullshit.
If you want to get to the bottom of the problems Women in America and many places around the world you need to look at
This...
And THIS
And THIS
Maybe a little of both points.
It's never just one thing. Just a many of a lot of things. One could have more effect than the other, but who's keeping up?
And honestly a lot of men are late to the party. I've always made sure to maintain an cold as ice relationship with female coworkers who I'm over. I've said on here a few times years ago that whenever a secretary or someone under me that's a woman expressed some interest by flirting and such I moved them to someone else away from me immediately. 1 time and you're out rule. I didn't talk to them about their behavior or try to explain to them that anything or even acknowledge it. I just requested that they'd be a better fit elsewhere as to not get them fired but also protect both of us because she still gets to keep her job and I don't get accused of any kind of misconduct or inappropriate behavior.
And that's limited to flirting, trying to let me know I can fuck. Not normal nice interactions.
And that's limited to flirting, trying to let me know I can fuck. Not normal nice interactions.
HNIC Made those changes before all these allegations came out and #metoo took off. The only reason you (this name anyway) isn't banned RIGHT NOW is because by the time my permissions were figured out, I considered the incident too old to take action and didn't deem it fair to you. In fact, I even skipped giving a warning over the comment.
Oh please... stfu! This shit has been going on for years, ever since the Cosby fiasco. The only thing that’s modern is the actual naming of the movement (me2)
And... do you feel good about yourself? You get made a mod (SOLELY because you’re a woman) and now you’re flexing about banning men who pay HNIC for membership to HIS board? That makes you feel good? You’re actually winning my argument for me.
There are hundreds of more qualified men to mod this board but instead they gave it to a woman who has never posted anything to contribute to the board. No porn, no information, no nothing... the only thing you have is a pussy (alegedly) and you’re a mod flexing on niggas.
But I know... hnic made you a mod based off of you years of service to the board... negro please.. you are an opportunistic woman just like all these other me2 yamps. The minute you don’t like someonne you ban them (or before you were a mod, cry to hnic).
Thank you Camille for verifying everything I’ve said... now if only you can verify that you’re a real woman since nobody has seen you or that other insufferable so called woman cocobeauty.
Ain't a thing straight about that dude...he been a pillow biter for a long time and you know it. Don't no straight man allow ANY flirting to go on whatsoever.
I can go with that but women under Abrahamic religions have been oppressed so long it has became tradition. Systematic oppression that became so normal that some of the oppressed defend the very system that harms them. Take a look at some of the woman who were against nthe ERA back in the 70s or the number of women that voted for Trump. Many of them for religious reasons while others simply couldn't vote for a woman.
It may or may not be an outlier. EVERYONE has that ONE friend or coworker they can cite as a way not to interact with women in the work place. At least two people in this thread has made comments to that effect, wondering why they haven't been fired, or saying they've taken them aside and had a talk or somehow warned or suggested they change their behavior. Yet when women say this stuff happens, it's an over exaggeration or not as prevalent as claimed or somehow outside the norm. It's almost like the reverse of white folks who all have that ONE black friend they can cite as a "good" person, yet want to lump every black person they don't know into one negative stereotype or another. With men and sexual harassment, few are engaging in y'alls mind (y'all general, not you specifically) and with with white folks, few black people are just regular average hardworking people, and not some ghettoized stereotype.
I still maintain the main reason men are pushing back against #metoo is the same reason average white folks aren't pushing back against WS. It's a system that benefits them even if they are not actively harassing or discriminating against folks. No one, if they sit and think about it, wants their wives or daughters harassed, but instinctively menfolk lash out at the thought of not being able to exert this type of control over women around them. Since everyone here is married to or dating a dime, ask them about their workplace experiences.
Bein a gent won’t make them pay you more
Very true. women's environment really comes into play here. You can even go as far as them being sexually oppressed due to these traditions.
Maybe dude just wants to work. The idea that men can’t be sexually assaulted needs to be confronted.
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I'm just a gentleman in general though.
I'm not looking for anything else outside of being consider a decent human being.
I may even have my own manipulative reason for my behaviors, but in the end I'm I pay compliments because I'm nice and some times it makes people feel good. And this is coming from a person that doesn't like people like that.
I'm glad that white men are getting exposed. In the end, I don't think this is helping black people (men or women). I'm with it though...
I’ve noticed people leave me alone when I have my don’t fuck with me face on
I don’t open doors for women anymore, only the black or brown elders.
I was doin it for the sis then one fucked it up for all.
I’ve seen the ugly in humans so the 9 stays with one in the head and no safety
The people we are consistently seeing exposed in the media are guilty as fuck. Collateral damage happens whether it makes the media are not. I'm with the public scorching of the predators.
Yep, I've never posted any content or contributed anything to this board.
That would make me like you in that case. The only thing you contribute is a shitty attitude and fodder for memes and jokes. You still have been dodging a question I posed to you over 6 months ago, asking you to articulate solutions, yet you claimed at one time to be the most articulate person in the history of this board.I've been a mod for years. The only thing new is the tag under my name, that serves to enrage women haters like you everytime I post and you see it.
I disagree with you.
It is an outlier within black men to be the level of predator that seemingly is a rite of passage for the white men in power. I don't believe for the most part black men in those environments feel invincible and feel like they're on borrowed time and not backed up which is why they don't risk it. I think there are some black men who do, do it but I think the reason you don't see more of them is because of that fact. A black man has to have something really going to never think "I could lose all of this" we're just born with that.
Now the problem with a lot of this stuff is definition.
I think we can agree and draw the line at touch. Don't touch. So that should be clear across the board. Now other things I don't know. Explicit things yes. But it's a ton of interpretation. If I ask @Spectrum if he wants to come over and watch the game it's ok . if I ask @JofromthaNO to come over and watch the game I'm just trying to fuck? We inset sexual dynamics into things because that's just what this society is geared towards. If i meant it the same was as when I asked spectrum but she took it as me being inappropriate and saying I was trying to lure her and fuck her then I'm done for.
Also black men are pushing back against me too cause this shit was already in place for us. We are always on eggshells with everything we have to be. We're born and taught to be, those of us who are taught. We're taught to walk on eggshells and also a closed mouth don't get fed.
so how does that work? Be careful but also you better speak up if you want it.
I used to do that because I'm honest. I'd use to be like this looks nice today or something. With no intentions and no 2nd thought but that has to end.
It's not nuanced.
I can't call it. He hangs out with mostly women at work, and the guys he is cool with are definitely straight. He doesn't have any feminine mannerisms, it's hard to explain what I mean by fem vibe. The gay guys at my job are off the chain, and a lot of the women are aggressive also. Even the discussions of a sexual nature, they don't care who over hears them. It's an entirely new world.
You and 4 Dimensional are just nice dudes. I never complimented a woman on how she looked in a professional environment because I'm just not that type of person. And if I did in a non-professional environment I definitely was trying to get on.
and it must be a lot of trolls in this thread. I'm seeing people replying to people that I have blocked. And I only block trolling muthafuckas.
Not denying/disagreeing none of that. Those folk definitely should get what's coming to them.
Yea most times when I used to do it, it wasn't for me it was for them. It'd be nothing for me to say your hair looks nice and then keep it moving and never think of it again.
I'm not going to change that about myself.
I have no desire to sexually harass any female. I'm just a nice guy.
I'm inviting even though I wear the mean mug face.