Official BGOL Crypto Currency Thread ★★★★★

Anyone got buy and holds in there portfolio. Long term

Going long on Dragonchain, Xtrabytes,Request Network and Cardano.
Looking out for the following on exchanges: Zilliqa, Oracles Network.
ICO's I would like to participate in: Metronome, Nucleus Vision.

Being a US citizen prevents me from participating in the ICO's that I really like. Nothing worse than reading a whitepaper and getting excited about the project only to find out that you will have to wait until the coin or token hits the exchanges.
 
Going long on Dragonchain, Xtrabytes,Request Network and Cardano.
Looking out for the following on exchanges: Zilliqa, Oracles Network.
ICO's I would like to participate in: Metronome, Nucleus Vision.

Being a US citizen prevents me from participating in the ICO's that I really like. Nothing worse than reading a whitepaper and getting excited about the project only to find out that you will have to wait until the coin or token hits the exchanges.

ya man...zilliqa was one I liked too...metronome sounds huge but I don’t like the way they’re going to conduct their ICO...they’re going to start off high and lower the price based on demand or lack of it...almost like a backwards auction...I forgot what the starting price will be...but they believe this way the market will determine the price and not them :rolleyes: make sure you’ve signed up for the nucleus vision whitelist if it’s not too late
 
ya man...zilliqa was one I liked too...metronome sounds huge but I don’t like the way they’re going to conduct their ICO...they’re going to start off high and lower the price based on demand or lack of it...almost like a backwards auction...I forgot what the starting price will be...but they believe this way the market will determine the price and not them :rolleyes: make sure you’ve signed up for the nucleus vision whitelist if it’s not too late

I feel you on the Dutch auction bs. I would take a Dutch auction over the proof of care that quantstamp pulled and GEMS is now pulling, though. I'm signed up for nucleus. I'm not balling but I have a little bit set aside to contribute. The money is made by the early investors and those lucky enough to find those small market cap coins that are growing.
 
I feel you on the Dutch auction bs. I would take a Dutch auction over the proof of care that quantstamp pulled and GEMS is now pulling, though. I'm signed up for nucleus. I'm not balling but I have a little bit set aside to contribute. The money is made by the early investors and those lucky enough to find those small market cap coins that are growing.
Is there any way to get in on ICO if you missed the whitelist? I was planning on investing in this one and forgot to sign up
 
All this red got me feeling unorganized
The gains I made off XRP I put into ETHER, now I'm kicking myself for not going with NEO
And TRON my biggest investment is gettin me bummed as fuck. Has any other coin gotten this much mud FUD slung at? Hodlin hard tho
I was about to put more into TRON but I'm thinking I should put it on something else.
Don't know what tho. :dunno: Maybe more DragonChain.
 
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All this red got me feeling unorganized
The gains I made off XRP I put into ETHER, now I'm kicking myself for not going with NEO
And TRON my biggest investment is gettin me bummed as fuck. Has any other coin gotten this much mud FUD slung at? Hodlin hard tho
I was about to put more into TRON but I'm thinking I should put it on something else.
Don't know what tho. :dunno: Maybe more DragonChain.

What exactly do you like about TRON?
 
All this red got me feeling unorganized
The gains I made off XRP I put into ETHER, now I'm kicking myself for not going with NEO
And TRON my biggest investment is gettin me bummed as fuck. Has any other coin gotten this much mud FUD slung at? Hodlin hard tho
I was about to put more into TRON but I'm thinking I should put it on something else.
Don't know what tho. :dunno: Maybe more DragonChain.

Tron did folks good during it's run, but Vechain is probably where it is at going forward. WTC is something that could easily jump to a few billion MC.
 
People better buy quick. Everything will probably pick up within 24 hours.

indeed...some sweet pickups for under $1 in the top 200–

quantumstamp $0.34
qlink $0.38
simple token $0.53
ambrosus $0.59
lamden $0.59
cobinhood $0.63
chainlink $0.63

these are personal favorites that I’ve either had a hand in...still have a hand in or have had my eye on...they may not be as “sexy” as the “under a penny” projects but they will rise faster imo

I like ambrosus but it ran up on me up to $1.50 before I could make a move...wouldn’t mind making a lateral move from simple token to ambrosus since it has a lower supply
 
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Tried to by some BTC last night andmy bank is now rejecting payments since they think Coinbase/crypto currency is some kind of scam.
 
People better buy quick. Everything will probably pick up within 24 hours.

We're not done with this drop yet. I put a buy for BTC at 9,800. Now, I can't predict the future, but it's a possibility. Maybe I'm being too greedy and should put it more around 11,000 :dunno:
 
http://uk.businessinsider.com/bitcoin-ethereum-ripple-cryptocurrency-prices-fall-on-january-16-2018-1?r=US&IR=T


LONDON — The 10 biggest cryptocurrencies by market capitalisation were plunging Tuesday morning, with all suffering double-digit percentage losses.

Bitcoin fell as much as 14% in early trade, falling through both $13,000 and $12,000 levels, but has recovered slightly. The decline appears to have spooked the market, with other coins selling off at the same time.

Here's the scoreboard as of 10.30 a.m. GMT (5.30 a.m. ET), per Markets Insider:

  1. Bitcoin is down 12.9% against the dollar to $11,860.01;
  2. Ethereum is down 18% against the dollar to $1,041.00;
  3. Ripple is down 19.9% to $1.32;
  4. Bitcoin cash is down 17.3% to $1,971.70 ;
  5. Cardano is down 23.5% to $0.61;
  6. Litecoin is down 15% to $196.73;
  7. Neo is down 22% to $145.54;
  8. Nem is down 17.7% to $1.20;
  9. Stellar is down 26.4% to $0.45;
  10. IOTA is down 21% to $2.87.
Cryptocurrencies have experienced a volatile start to 2018 after a huge rally last year.

Increased regulatory scrutiny from South Korea has dampened sentiment in the sector. Mati Greenspan, an analyst at the trading platform eToro, said declining volumes from Japan and South Korea appeared to be behind Tuesday morning's sell-off.
 
indeed...some sweet pickups for under $1 in the top 200–

quantumstamp $0.34
qlink $0.38
simple token $0.53
ambrosus $0.59
lamden $0.59
cobinhood $0.63
chainlink $0.63

these are personal favorites that I’ve either had a hand in...still have a hand in or have had my eye on...they may not be as “sexy” as the “under a penny” projects but they will rise faster imo

I like ambrosus but it ran up on me up to $1.50 before I could make a move...wouldn’t mind making a lateral move from simple token to ambrosus since it has a lower supply
I gotta ask, how are you cycling through the noise to find your picks? So many people just throwing out picks (not talking about BGOL...I mean Facebook groups, reddit, etc),.I get a headache trying to research them all.

After saying all that, I like a couple of the one you mentioned.
 
Quick Question,

I was looking to buy some Lamden and Erc20 on EtherDelta. I do have some initial concerns about the lack of volume because of the small exchange, but I think I can get over that. My question, do I just connect an EtherWallet to EtherDelta to make the purchase or do i send funds to EtherDelta. The user interface of the site is not great.
 
More Asian Country Drama crushing cryptos today. Today's FUD = China Peoples Bank of China potentially issuing tough regulation on cryptocurrency

I will add though, I read a good article yesterday on Reddit that talked about in 2018 Ether was the way to go instead of Bitcoin. Now that people can short Bitcoin, it's going to be tough to rise higher. I think I may switch my cash from Bitcoin to Ether or at least go back to USD.
 
We're not done with this drop yet. I put a buy for BTC at 9,800. Now, I can't predict the future, but it's a possibility. Maybe I'm being too greedy and should put it more around 11,000 :dunno:
Other than miss timing the market will you have anything to really loose by having it between 9800 to 10000? I remember last year there was a ten second window when Ethereum fell all the way to down .10
(https://www.cnbc.com/2017/06/22/eth...exchange-after-multimillion-dollar-trade.html)
 
I gotta ask, how are you cycling through the noise to find your picks? So many people just throwing out picks, I get a headache trying to research them all.

After saying all that, I like a couple of the one you mentioned.

I’m very limited in the coins/projects I choose...not saying this is the best method but w/ so many coins to choose from and $$$ sometimes being limited...sticking to specific projects I know works for me and keeps me focused...quantumstamp, simple token, lamden and chainlink more or less provide tools for devs/business to build/secure blockchains...these types of projects tend to do well...cobinhood is an exchange and exchange tokens have done well recently in the market...ambrosus like wabi vechain and walton is a supply chain coin...all are doing well in the market not taking into account the cyclical setback we’re experiencing (qlink is not normally the type of project I’d invest in...but it has received some hype...I bought in @ around $0.40 and sold it @ $1...I’m almost sure it’ll hit $1 again so this is a pretty good pickup) anyway long story short...I look @ the types of coins/projects I like and try to find cheaper priced competitors*...if I can find an ICO that mirrors the type of coins/projects I like then even better

*some did this w/ stellar lumens and bought a lot when they realized they were in the same lane as ripple...I looked @ them as a copycat company and passed...bad move in hindsight...competition is good...whenever ripple does well so does stellar lumens...if you feel you’ve missed out on a coin...look for worthy competitors and get in early if possible
 
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Quick Question,

I was looking to buy some Lamden and Erc20 on EtherDelta. I do have some initial concerns about the lack of volume because of the small exchange, but I think I can get over that. My question, do I just connect an EtherWallet to EtherDelta to make the purchase or do i send funds to EtherDelta. The user interface of the site is not great.


Assuming you have a Nano ledger yes connect it to EtherDelta.
 
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Other than miss timing the market will you have anything to really loose by having it between 9800 to 10000? I remember last year there was a ten second window when Ethereum fell all the way to down .10
(https://www.cnbc.com/2017/06/22/eth...exchange-after-multimillion-dollar-trade.html)
11,000. 11,000's a weak support point and 9,800's a stronger one. It wouldn't be a flash crash to 11,000, it would linger for a while before going up if it's indeed the bottom. If at 11,000 it looks like it's going up, based on volume, then I would buy around the 11,000 range.
 
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Quick Question,

I was looking to buy some Lamden and Erc20 on EtherDelta. I do have some initial concerns about the lack of volume because of the small exchange, but I think I can get over that. My question, do I just connect an EtherWallet to EtherDelta to make the purchase or do i send funds to EtherDelta. The user interface of the site is not great.
Buy through myetherwallet. You may have to manually add the coin. If so, they should have instructions for you
 
I’m very limited in the coins/projects I choose...not saying this is the best method but w/ so many coins to choose from and $$$ sometimes being limited...sticking to specific projects I know works for me and keeps me focused...quantumstamp, simple token, lamden and chainlink more or less provide tools for devs/business to build/secure blockchains...these types of projects tend to do well...cobinhood is an exchange and exchange tokens have done well recently in the market...ambrosus like wabi vechain and walton is a supply chain coin...all are doing well in the market not taking into account the cyclical setback we’re experiencing (qlink is not normally the type of project I’d invest in...but it has received some hype...I bought in @ around $0.40 and sold it @ $1...I’m almost sure it’ll hit $1 again so this is a pretty good pickup) anyway long story short...I look @ the types of coins/projects I like and try to find cheaper priced competitors*...if I can find an ICO that mirrors the type of coins/projects I like then even better

*some did this w/ stellar lumens and bought a lot when they realized they were in the same lane as ripple...I looked @ them as a copycat company and passed...bad move in hindsight...competition is good...whenever ripple does well so does stellar lumens...if you feel you’ve missed out on a coin...look for worthy competitors and get in early if possible
So true. I got I to STELLAR because I sold my XRP. Best find I made. XLM was super low when I bought
 
https://techcrunch.com/2018/01/15/inside-telegrams-ambitious-1-2b-ico-to-create-the-next-ethereum/

Inside Telegram’s ambitious $1.2B ICO to create the next Ethereum
Posted 20 hours ago by Jon Russell (@jonrussell)
telegram.jpg



We have even more information about messaging app Telegram’s plans for cashing in on its popularity within the crypto community with the massive ICO for its proposed Telegram Open Network (TON) project (that we first reported), after obtaining the whitepaper and investor prospectuses in full.

From the documents, it is clear that Telegram isn’t content with sitting on a platform like Ethereum for its token sale and services, as most ICOs are. Instead, it wants to create a platform of its own to rival Ethereum for hosting a new wave of decentralized services and internet experiences tipped to emerge thanks to the blockchain.

Telegram’s ICO will be a record if all goes according to plan, but that’s only the start.

The company plans to raise a staggering $1.2 billion in total, starting with a $600 million pre-sale that’s strictly for traditional venture capital backers and those inside its executive’s close circles. That first stage is running from January to February by invite-only, according to the letters sent to selected participants that were viewed by TechCrunch.

Following the pre-sale, the firm plans to hold a public sale in March which will allow retail investors to enter. The public sale is pegged at $600 million, which would make the overall ICO worth $1.2 billion. That blows any other token sale out of the water, and it would easily surpass the current record of $257 million raised by Filecoin in September.

top-10-icos-and-telegram.jpg


Beyond money, the ICO will be notable for a product with far greater traction among consumers than any other token sale project to date. As explained in the prospectus, Telegram is on track to surpass 200 million active users this year:

In October 2017, Telegram reached 170 million monthly users, delivering 70 billion messages every day. At least 500000 new users join Telegram daily. At this rate, the service is expected to hit 200 million monthly users in Q1 2018. These users can provide the required critical mass to push cryptocurrencies towards widespread adoption

Ambitions to run the decentralized web
Telegram is best known for a messaging app, which the company claims in the documents is used for community communication in over 60 percent of ICO projects, but its own ICO is more extensive than monetizing that chat service.

The company is planning to develop the building blocks for a decentralized internet that could eventually power decentralized apps (known as DApps), smart contacts, censorship-proof websites and more.

The pitch includes four components, as we previously reported:

  • Distributed file storage akin to services like Dropcoin and ICO company Filecoin
  • A proxy service for creating decentralized VPN services and TOR-like secure browsing environments based on the blockchain
  • Services for decentralized apps, smart contracts and decentralized web browsing experiences
  • Payments for micropayments and peer-to-peer transactions
Putting these components together could allow Telegram to be the base for a new range of decentralized apps and services based on the blockchain. It could turn Telegram from a messaging app into a platform that hosts internet-based content which could, in theory, operate micro-paywalls that let users unlock news or subscriptions for small amounts of crypto payment, while there’s also the potential to become a major payment hub.

TON will provide the backbone for new kinds of internet services while also allowing existing social networks and messaging apps to join in, too.


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Telegram said its services play, which lets other developers build apps and services on top of TON, can “be a gateway to blockchain-based projects for the masses — similar to how Google Play and the App Store currently work for centralized applications.”

All of these goals, of course, require technology and Telegram’s 132-page whitepaper goes into much detail on that. Those technologies outlined in the whitepaper aren’t deployed by other projects right now, so they will require some time for development, but they are based on, or inspired by, ongoing efforts from other blockchain companies that remain in progress.

Blockchain developers who spoke to TechCrunch were underwhelmed by the lack of new technology in the whitepaper, claiming that it mostly uses theories from existing projects rather than pushing the envelope.

More details in full, as we reported last week:

The “TON Blockchain” will consist of a master chain and 2-to-the-power-of-92 accompanying blockchains. Its most notable aspect is that it will have an “Infinite Sharding Paradigm” to achieve scalability. Thus, TON blockchains aim to be able to “automatically split and merge to accommodate changes in load”. This would mean new blocks are generated quickly and “the absence of long queues helps keep transaction costs low, even if some of the services using the platform become massively popular”.

It will also consist of “Instant Hypercube Routing” designed so the blockchain can maintain top speed even as it grows. Its proof of stake approach will reach consensus through a variant of the ‘Byzantine Fault Tolerant’ protocol, again increasing speed and efficiency. And it will also use 2-D Distributed Ledgers. This means the TON can grow new valid blocks on top of any blocks that were proven to be incorrect to avoid any unnecessary forks. In other words, TON aims to be ‘self-healing’.

TON’s third generation blockchain will be based on a dynamic ‘proof of stake’ secured by multiple parties with a high degree of fault tolerance. It will also handle storage of ID, payments and smart contracts. So, instead of relying on proof of work to create its currency, Telegram will rely on a new, less energy-hogging way of mining cryptocurrency than the original Bitcoin method.

The claim is that it will be capable of a vastly superior number of transactions, around 1 million per second. In other words, similar to the ambitions of the Polkadot project out of Berlin — but with an installed base of 180 million people. This makes it an ‘interchain’ with so-called ‘dynamic sharding’.

butcher-pavel-durov-2.jpg



Telegram CEO Pavel Durov speaking at TechCrunch Disrupt San Francisco

Huge discounts and a long wait
Once news of the project got out, most interest focused around the token sale itself with many investors sure the project will be a hit based on hype alone.

For the sale itself, Telegram is proposing to create five billion Gram tokens — which it plans to use the
1f48e.svg
symbol for — to be distributed as follows:

  • 10 percent held as incentives to develop the platform, including developer incentives
  • 4 percent kept for remunerating the developer team
  • 42 percent retained by the TON Reserve during the initial stages of the project in order to “protect the nascent cryptocurrency from speculative trading and to maintain flexibility at the early stages of the evolution of the system.”
  • 44 percentwill be tradable, Telegram said
A recent trend in ICOs, also known as token sales, is to offer large discounts in the pre-sale phase to encourage large investors — known as Whales — to contribute. Telegram is requiring a minimum investment of $20 million for that — a number that is way higher than any other token sale to date — with discounts of more than 50 percent for those who take part. According to a document for investors, Telegram believes the pre-sale discount could exceed 70 percent of the final token price although the final numbers aren’t confirmed. That is insane.

With the final public sale price targeted at $0.97, that could mean some whales pay as little as $0.31, according to the prospectus.

Due to those enormous discounts, Telegram is proposing a varied lock-up period that would see the investors who enjoyed the largest discount unable to sell their tokens. Details are still being worked out, but lock-up periods could range from three to 18 months dependent on discount, with an option for partial lock-up, too.

There will be an uncharacteristically long delay before investors, both pre- and public, get their hands on their tokens. Telegram plans to release the Grams in December, with a schedule of January-March 2019 for when they will list on exchanges, thereby becoming available for everyone else and, crucially for investors, tradable.

Product roadmap
Plenty of ICOs are rightly accused of trading on hype and developing multi-billion dollar market caps for their coins without actually offering a product.

Telegram’s token sale will take place before the company’s product is available, but the tokens themselves will be released after a number of features according to the company’s rough guideline as shared with investors:

  • Q1 2018 — secure ID launch
  • Q2 2018 — MVP of test of network of TON
  • Q3 2018 — testing and security audit for TON
  • Q4 2018 — stable version of TON deployed
  • Q4 2018 — Telegram wallet launched
  • Q1 2019 — TON-based economy goes live inside Telegram
  • Q2 2019 — TON services, storage and proxy launched
By 2021, Telegram plans to step back and rename TON to ON with the network managed by its foundation. That’s not an entirely uncommon goal for token sale projects.

“Telegram will serve as a launch pad for TON, ensuring its technological superiority and widespread adoption on the initial stages, but the future of TON is in the hands of the global open-source community,” the company wrote in the whitepaper.

Unprecedented ICO
There’s a lot to unpack from the Telegram ICO, but it is clear that early reports of plans to develop its service into WeChat undersold the sheer ambition of this project.

Acutely aware of the unique position that their company occupies as the go-to app for the crypto community, Telegram’s founders are aiming to develop a platform of comparable scale to Ethereum and the many “Ethereum killers” that have launched over the past year or so. This ICO isn’t just designed to (finally) make money from the Telegram messaging app, it aims to build a platform for future ICOs, future cryptocurrencies, future decentralized applications and a new kind of censorship-proof internet system.

The question — like all ICOs — is whether the theory can become reality. Certainly on the tech-side, Telegram’s processes and protocols remain in development. The product roadmap reflects that and the big launches won’t happen until later this year (the Telegram wallet) and early 2019, when the TON-based economy goes live, which means there are no major clues as to when the public component of the token sale opens.

Given the fact that few ICOs even have a product in the market, let alone one with 170 million active users, you can expect that crypto-focused investors will be keen to grab a slice of this sale. How the pre-sale fares among more traditional VCs will also be one to watch.

Disclosure: The author owns small amounts of cryptocurrency including ETH.
 
https://techcrunch.com/2018/01/15/inside-telegrams-ambitious-1-2b-ico-to-create-the-next-ethereum/

Inside Telegram’s ambitious $1.2B ICO to create the next Ethereum
Posted 20 hours ago by Jon Russell (@jonrussell)
telegram.jpg



We have even more information about messaging app Telegram’s plans for cashing in on its popularity within the crypto community with the massive ICO for its proposed Telegram Open Network (TON) project (that we first reported), after obtaining the whitepaper and investor prospectuses in full.

From the documents, it is clear that Telegram isn’t content with sitting on a platform like Ethereum for its token sale and services, as most ICOs are. Instead, it wants to create a platform of its own to rival Ethereum for hosting a new wave of decentralized services and internet experiences tipped to emerge thanks to the blockchain.

Telegram’s ICO will be a record if all goes according to plan, but that’s only the start.

The company plans to raise a staggering $1.2 billion in total, starting with a $600 million pre-sale that’s strictly for traditional venture capital backers and those inside its executive’s close circles. That first stage is running from January to February by invite-only, according to the letters sent to selected participants that were viewed by TechCrunch.

Following the pre-sale, the firm plans to hold a public sale in March which will allow retail investors to enter. The public sale is pegged at $600 million, which would make the overall ICO worth $1.2 billion. That blows any other token sale out of the water, and it would easily surpass the current record of $257 million raised by Filecoin in September.

top-10-icos-and-telegram.jpg


Beyond money, the ICO will be notable for a product with far greater traction among consumers than any other token sale project to date. As explained in the prospectus, Telegram is on track to surpass 200 million active users this year:

In October 2017, Telegram reached 170 million monthly users, delivering 70 billion messages every day. At least 500000 new users join Telegram daily. At this rate, the service is expected to hit 200 million monthly users in Q1 2018. These users can provide the required critical mass to push cryptocurrencies towards widespread adoption

Ambitions to run the decentralized web
Telegram is best known for a messaging app, which the company claims in the documents is used for community communication in over 60 percent of ICO projects, but its own ICO is more extensive than monetizing that chat service.

The company is planning to develop the building blocks for a decentralized internet that could eventually power decentralized apps (known as DApps), smart contacts, censorship-proof websites and more.

The pitch includes four components, as we previously reported:

  • Distributed file storage akin to services like Dropcoin and ICO company Filecoin
  • A proxy service for creating decentralized VPN services and TOR-like secure browsing environments based on the blockchain
  • Services for decentralized apps, smart contracts and decentralized web browsing experiences
  • Payments for micropayments and peer-to-peer transactions
Putting these components together could allow Telegram to be the base for a new range of decentralized apps and services based on the blockchain. It could turn Telegram from a messaging app into a platform that hosts internet-based content which could, in theory, operate micro-paywalls that let users unlock news or subscriptions for small amounts of crypto payment, while there’s also the potential to become a major payment hub.

TON will provide the backbone for new kinds of internet services while also allowing existing social networks and messaging apps to join in, too.


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Telegram said its services play, which lets other developers build apps and services on top of TON, can “be a gateway to blockchain-based projects for the masses — similar to how Google Play and the App Store currently work for centralized applications.”

All of these goals, of course, require technology and Telegram’s 132-page whitepaper goes into much detail on that. Those technologies outlined in the whitepaper aren’t deployed by other projects right now, so they will require some time for development, but they are based on, or inspired by, ongoing efforts from other blockchain companies that remain in progress.

Blockchain developers who spoke to TechCrunch were underwhelmed by the lack of new technology in the whitepaper, claiming that it mostly uses theories from existing projects rather than pushing the envelope.

More details in full, as we reported last week:

The “TON Blockchain” will consist of a master chain and 2-to-the-power-of-92 accompanying blockchains. Its most notable aspect is that it will have an “Infinite Sharding Paradigm” to achieve scalability. Thus, TON blockchains aim to be able to “automatically split and merge to accommodate changes in load”. This would mean new blocks are generated quickly and “the absence of long queues helps keep transaction costs low, even if some of the services using the platform become massively popular”.

It will also consist of “Instant Hypercube Routing” designed so the blockchain can maintain top speed even as it grows. Its proof of stake approach will reach consensus through a variant of the ‘Byzantine Fault Tolerant’ protocol, again increasing speed and efficiency. And it will also use 2-D Distributed Ledgers. This means the TON can grow new valid blocks on top of any blocks that were proven to be incorrect to avoid any unnecessary forks. In other words, TON aims to be ‘self-healing’.

TON’s third generation blockchain will be based on a dynamic ‘proof of stake’ secured by multiple parties with a high degree of fault tolerance. It will also handle storage of ID, payments and smart contracts. So, instead of relying on proof of work to create its currency, Telegram will rely on a new, less energy-hogging way of mining cryptocurrency than the original Bitcoin method.

The claim is that it will be capable of a vastly superior number of transactions, around 1 million per second. In other words, similar to the ambitions of the Polkadot project out of Berlin — but with an installed base of 180 million people. This makes it an ‘interchain’ with so-called ‘dynamic sharding’.

butcher-pavel-durov-2.jpg



Telegram CEO Pavel Durov speaking at TechCrunch Disrupt San Francisco

Huge discounts and a long wait
Once news of the project got out, most interest focused around the token sale itself with many investors sure the project will be a hit based on hype alone.

For the sale itself, Telegram is proposing to create five billion Gram tokens — which it plans to use the
1f48e.svg
symbol for — to be distributed as follows:

  • 10 percent held as incentives to develop the platform, including developer incentives
  • 4 percent kept for remunerating the developer team
  • 42 percent retained by the TON Reserve during the initial stages of the project in order to “protect the nascent cryptocurrency from speculative trading and to maintain flexibility at the early stages of the evolution of the system.”
  • 44 percentwill be tradable, Telegram said
A recent trend in ICOs, also known as token sales, is to offer large discounts in the pre-sale phase to encourage large investors — known as Whales — to contribute. Telegram is requiring a minimum investment of $20 million for that — a number that is way higher than any other token sale to date — with discounts of more than 50 percent for those who take part. According to a document for investors, Telegram believes the pre-sale discount could exceed 70 percent of the final token price although the final numbers aren’t confirmed. That is insane.

With the final public sale price targeted at $0.97, that could mean some whales pay as little as $0.31, according to the prospectus.

Due to those enormous discounts, Telegram is proposing a varied lock-up period that would see the investors who enjoyed the largest discount unable to sell their tokens. Details are still being worked out, but lock-up periods could range from three to 18 months dependent on discount, with an option for partial lock-up, too.

There will be an uncharacteristically long delay before investors, both pre- and public, get their hands on their tokens. Telegram plans to release the Grams in December, with a schedule of January-March 2019 for when they will list on exchanges, thereby becoming available for everyone else and, crucially for investors, tradable.

Product roadmap
Plenty of ICOs are rightly accused of trading on hype and developing multi-billion dollar market caps for their coins without actually offering a product.

Telegram’s token sale will take place before the company’s product is available, but the tokens themselves will be released after a number of features according to the company’s rough guideline as shared with investors:

  • Q1 2018 — secure ID launch
  • Q2 2018 — MVP of test of network of TON
  • Q3 2018 — testing and security audit for TON
  • Q4 2018 — stable version of TON deployed
  • Q4 2018 — Telegram wallet launched
  • Q1 2019 — TON-based economy goes live inside Telegram
  • Q2 2019 — TON services, storage and proxy launched
By 2021, Telegram plans to step back and rename TON to ON with the network managed by its foundation. That’s not an entirely uncommon goal for token sale projects.

“Telegram will serve as a launch pad for TON, ensuring its technological superiority and widespread adoption on the initial stages, but the future of TON is in the hands of the global open-source community,” the company wrote in the whitepaper.

Unprecedented ICO
There’s a lot to unpack from the Telegram ICO, but it is clear that early reports of plans to develop its service into WeChat undersold the sheer ambition of this project.

Acutely aware of the unique position that their company occupies as the go-to app for the crypto community, Telegram’s founders are aiming to develop a platform of comparable scale to Ethereum and the many “Ethereum killers” that have launched over the past year or so. This ICO isn’t just designed to (finally) make money from the Telegram messaging app, it aims to build a platform for future ICOs, future cryptocurrencies, future decentralized applications and a new kind of censorship-proof internet system.

The question — like all ICOs — is whether the theory can become reality. Certainly on the tech-side, Telegram’s processes and protocols remain in development. The product roadmap reflects that and the big launches won’t happen until later this year (the Telegram wallet) and early 2019, when the TON-based economy goes live, which means there are no major clues as to when the public component of the token sale opens.

Given the fact that few ICOs even have a product in the market, let alone one with 170 million active users, you can expect that crypto-focused investors will be keen to grab a slice of this sale. How the pre-sale fares among more traditional VCs will also be one to watch.

Disclosure: The author owns small amounts of cryptocurrency including ETH.


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the fact that govts are cracking down on it, changing tax laws with the finest of knee jerkism..

is proof that bitcoin and cyrpto currency are becoming legit...

sheet Im just gonna hold on and forget about it for awhile, focus on other projects....


Good advice...noobs, stop checking blockfolio for now and spend time with the family. This will pass. I left hundreds of thousands on the table last year when this happened from panic selling
 
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