Car Thieves Defeat Keyless Entry on Benz in Less Than a Minute

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A new surveillance video from Birmingham, England shows two hackers exploiting keyless technology to steal a sleeping man’s Mercedes—in less time than it takes to order something off Seamless. Released by the West Midlands Police Department on Monday, authorities believe it to be the first footage of thieves attacking a car using relay boxes, devices that can be programmed to send signals through walls.


Called a “relay crime” by police, the heist is incredibly simple. Each hacker had one box. The first box, placed on the house’s exterior, picked up the signal from the owner’s key fob, sending it to the second box, placed right next to the Mercedes.

Having received this signal, the smart lock “thought” the key fob itself was present, unlocking the door and giving the hackers full access. And because smart keys often come coupled with keyless ignitions, the theft went out without a hitch.
 
1 - crooks are always ahead of the cops

Yeah a couple of stories like these popped up in Atlanta this summer.

Man says thieves used 'decoding' device to steal truck

By: Denise Dillon
POSTED: AUG 14 2017 10:45PM EDT
UPDATED: AUG 14 2017 11:45PM EDT

ATLANTA - There have been reports across the country of thieves using electronic devices to unlock keyless entry cars. An Atlanta man says that's how crooks stole his truck right out of his driveway.

Scott Lobel says it was about 4:30 in the morning when he heard the engine of his new Dodge Ram Rebel roar to life. "I popped up out of bed just in time to see the truck pull out of the driveway," said Lobel.

Lobel's home security cameras captured the crook in the act. He says he reviewed the video with police to find out how the thief got into the truck and was able to start it. "Both the officer and I reviewed the video and it certainly looked like he had a device in his left hand. The officer was certainly aware of decoding, that's for sure, it's something they've seen before," said Lobel.

The National Insurance Crime Bureau says there are a number of ways thieves use technology to get into keyless entry vehicles. One device can capture the signal from a key fob and clone it. Another can reprogram a new key in minutes. "Somebody with the right software and a key, can hook up to the diagnostic key and reprogram that vehicle's computer to accept a reprogrammed key that the bad guy supplies," said Frank Scafidi with the National Insurance Crime Bureau.


Lobel says he hopes to get with investigators to learn more about what type of decoding device crooks used. He says in his case technology worked both for and against him. Unfortunately the crooks were up on their technology and were able to steal his truck. But Lobel had an APP that helped police track his truck and found it ditched along a road about 10 miles away.

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Thieves use device to break into cars electronically
by: Carl Willis Updated: Jun 24, 2017 - 11:23 PM

ATLANTA - Thieves could be using new technology to scan information from cars and break in without anyone knowing.

Residents in the Woodland Hills neighborhood in northwest Atlanta reported several car break-ins Wednesday. However, no windows or locks were damaged.

One victim said Atlanta police told her that thieves may be using some sort of device to scan vehicle information and mimic the keyless entry devices.

"It's just mind-blowing," Alexia Cargal said. She said thieves ransacked her husband's truck and stole a checkbook.

Cargal said three other cars around Rando Lane were also broken into.

"We really couldn't see any physical damage to the car," she said. "That was when the (officer's) response was 'you can electronically scan a vehicle identification number and break in.'"

The victim's husband and neighbors reported seeing a silver Chrysler sedan roaming the streets just before the thefts. One neighbor reported seeing the thieves in action.

Cargal said mystery devices, which have been reported across the country, may have reached the metro.

"I think what's scary is that now all cars are smart cars, essentially," she said. "So if they can break into your car with an app, like, what else can they do with your car?"



She wants everyone to be aware and know that these kinds of thefts could spread to other neighborhoods.

"You need to keep your car bare at this point, since it's so easy now to get into," she said.

The victims said the thieves tried to deposit a check into an account. The victims are hoping their bank and police work together to identify the thieves soon.
 
unless something has changed, keyless start and entry only work with the key near right? (that was established above)
so when they drive off, the system should shutdown, this happened years ago to my ex-wife dodge neon, the key has a chip, the thieves got the car started but did not make it out of the driveway because once you put the car in drive the system shuts down if it can't detect the key.
 
unless something has changed, keyless start and entry only work with the key near right? (that was established above)
so when they drive off, the system should shutdown, this happened years ago to my ex-wife dodge neon, the key has a chip, the thieves got the car started but did not make it out of the driveway because once you put the car in drive the system shuts down if it can't detect the key.
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2 different technologies
 
Yall sick u geeked about this shit?

When ya ride gets jacked from ya crib don't come crying saying some brehs got u.
 
unless something has changed, keyless start and entry only work with the key near right? (that was established above)
so when they drive off, the system should shutdown, this happened years ago to my ex-wife dodge neon, the key has a chip, the thieves got the car started but did not make it out of the driveway because once you put the car in drive the system shuts down if it can't detect the key.

I know what you're talking about. There are different types of keyless start.
 
unless something has changed, keyless start and entry only work with the key near right? (that was established above)
so when they drive off, the system should shutdown, this happened years ago to my ex-wife dodge neon, the key has a chip, the thieves got the car started but did not make it out of the driveway because once you put the car in drive the system shuts down if it can't detect the key.

I know Nissan and Infinity will just beep at you not shut down. But if you turn it off thats it.
 
I know what you're talking about. There are different types of keyless start.
no there aren't

there are keys with a transponder that becomes part of a complete a circuit and the ecu constantly requires a signal from it or it will shut off the engine - its in most cars made after 92 until recently
same tech in after market or factory remote starts

then there is "keyless" which is based on RFID - some cars verify key presence only once to unlock doors and will allow engine to start
other cars verify 2x -once to open doors and again to start engine - like in the vid I posted they needed the signal 2x to start the car
after the engine starts they are good until they turn the car off or the vehicle has traveled a few miles - either way they can get far enough away to either
1 -load the car onto transport
or
2- program a new key for the car
 
no there aren't

there are keys with a transponder that becomes part of a complete a circuit and the ecu constantly requires a signal from it or it will shut off the engine - its in most cars made after 92 until recently
same tech in after market or factory remote starts

then there is "keyless" which is based on RFID - some cars verify key presence only once to unlock doors and will allow engine to start
other cars verify 2x -once to open doors and again to start engine - like in the vid I posted they needed the signal 2x to start the car
after the engine starts they are good until they turn the car off or the vehicle has traveled a few miles - either way they can get far enough away to either
1 -load the car onto transport
or
2- program a new key for the car

So the remote starts that require the key and chip to be inserted directly into the ignition are the same as push button starts where you can keep shit in your pocket?
 
So the remote starts that require the key and chip to be inserted directly into the ignition are the same as push button starts where you can keep shit in your pocket?
2 different technologies - I explained both in the post you quoted

that's why after market remote starts will put a key and chip near the steering column
while factory will start but requires a complete circuit to shift the car into gear
 
2 different technologies - I explained both in the post you quoted

that's why after market remote starts will put a key and chip near the steering column
while factory will start but requires a complete circuit to shift the car into gear

Ok. So bottom line this. Can the remote start that requires key to be INSERTED and TURNED to a certain position be hacked like the push button?
 
Ok. So bottom line this. Can the remote start that requires key to be INSERTED and TURNED to a certain position be hacked like the push button?

no -its old tech
it gets defeated using the same methods that work on cars that use a key / chip combo
 
unless something has changed, keyless start and entry only work with the key near right? (that was established above)
so when they drive off, the system should shutdown, this happened years ago to my ex-wife dodge neon, the key has a chip, the thieves got the car started but did not make it out of the driveway because once you put the car in drive the system shuts down if it can't detect the key.

I believe what happened was - as detailed in an above post - the first device relays the key signal to the second device which clones it. This 2nd device then appears as the original key being present in the car; as it's a clone. Hence they are able to drive away with the car.

The clone can be of both the keys emitted signal to unlock car and RFID to start it, if needed.
 
I believe what happened was - as detailed in an above post - the first device relays the key signal to the second device which clones it. This 2nd device then appears as the original key being present in the car; as it's a clone. Hence they are able to drive away with the car.

The clone can be of both the keys emitted signal to unlock car and RFID to start it, if needed.
that's what i was thinking happened, just needed confirmation. my Benz does not have this, thank god.
 
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Okay...I dont know how Mercedes works, but if you steal my car you better never turn it off or you wont be able to turn it on again lol. I can also call BMW and tell them my car is stolen and apparently they can remotely shut it off. I also have BMW labs that updates the location of my vehicle and sends me it every time the car is turned on or off. Needless to say, this new trick will work well to steal the car but wont work to well to hide it.
 
that's what i was thinking happened, just needed confirmation. my Benz does not have this, thank god.

Looks like a C class...You still have to stick the key in there in the C class, so im kinda confused as to how cloning the signal would turn on the car.
 
Actually you can replace the key with a push start, simple add on. (upgrade package on some models, others come standard)
Mercedes has an app called Mercedes me, i think it can control your car if you have the right package, i downloaded it but they want a monthly subscription for all of the features.

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Okay...I dont know how Mercedes works, but if you steal my car you better never turn it off or you wont be able to turn it on again lol. I can also call BMW and tell them my car is stolen and apparently they can remotely shut it off. I also have BMW labs that updates the location of my vehicle and sends me it every time the car is turned on or off. Needless to say, this new trick will work well to steal the car but wont work to well to hide it.
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Actually you can replace the key with a push start, simple add on. (upgrade package on some models, others come standard)
Mercedes has an app called Mercedes me, i think it can control your car if you have the right package, i downloaded it but they want a monthly subscription for all of the features.

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Oh i see...I guess they're all the same because bmw has the same crap too called "connected" where you can control your car, but cant turn it on remotely. You also have to pay $50 for real time traffic, bmw assist and some other shit i dont remember.
 
Meaning the tracker wont matter as its on its way to a foreign country wherre that wont be an issue

Right...I guess that would only be the case for someone who lives right next to a dock but then again, im sure the car thieves have sophisticated tools to stop the car from constantly connecting to the internet.
 
Right...I guess that would only be the case for someone who lives right next to a dock but then again, im sure the car thieves have sophisticated tools to stop the car from constantly connecting to the internet.
containers are very portable and can block most radio waves or easily be modified to block all

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