in some cases they get you sign a noncompete agreement but it has to have a end date - it can't be lifetime
Why are blacks still trying to "make it" in racist assed Hollywood ????
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yeah i heard of those but none of them really directly said you can't start your own network...kinda like marvel vs dc you prob can't do both under contract but it won't say robert downey jr can't produce or make "it" or saw or anything else u feel me
Martha Stewart married an upper class executive. Buffet's father was a senator. And they're white.
no way they could ban her from owning shares of a competing company even if she was an employee...
so they could say no new shows on TV for 1 to 3 years or so - or dumb shit like every actor that ever plays James Bond can not be portrayed in any media wearing a full tuxedo without consent
Nothing like you can't acquire a controlling interest in a competitors company while we lease these shows from you
so?
still first generation rich - still entrepreneurs - still needed to work with others and financiers to acquire companies
fyi - a congressman is not a senator
I can keep giving you examples from Bloomberg to George Soros
oprah had multi nationality following, cosby had millions of followers, jordan is global following..now combined them 3 mass appeal and influence under 1 umbrella..you think people like spike lee, eddie murphy, arsenio , denzel, etc wouldn't jumped on the bandwagon asking to produce some kinda content for their network..hell could u imagine oprah in the afternoon and arsenio at nite time in the 90's
..could you imagine spike lee creating a tv series like crooklyn, do the rite thing or something of that nature...could you imagine eddie murphy doin a stand up or chris rock juss for that station.. hell how bout a new living color series..jew knew what could've happen and stopped that quick fast.
It would suck if your sister, mother or wife were raped and people kept telling you to drop it because the rapist was famous. I'd bet you'd believe if it was your loved one.
Cosby had white america in his pocketoprah had multi nationality following, cosby had millions of followers, jordan is global following..now combined them 3 mass appeal and influence under 1 umbrella..you think people like spike lee, eddie murphy, arsenio , denzel, etc wouldn't jumped on the bandwagon asking to produce some kinda content for their network..hell could u imagine oprah in the afternoon and arsenio at nite time in the 90's
Oprah had white women in hers
Eddie was still Hollywoods #1 - top grossing actor
Jordan was a marketing god - just printing money for CocaCola and Nike
I don't think there is anyone in entertainment today that's impacting like they were
The people you just named are getting paid by white folk. I can't stress that enough.oprah had multi nationality following, cosby had millions of followers, jordan is global following..now combined them 3 mass appeal and influence under 1 umbrella..you think people like spike lee, eddie murphy, arsenio , denzel, etc wouldn't jumped on the bandwagon asking to produce some kinda content for their network..hell could u imagine oprah in the afternoon and arsenio at nite time in the 90's
Lebron, Thomas and Love are getting paid over $100 mil a year with Dan Gilbert signing the check so what is he making.
And if these guys got so much money, why didn't they get together and start something ala Dreamworks?
Denzel and Eddie with their money couldn't start something? They clearly know something we don't know.
This ain't defeatism, its reality and part of the reason we need reparations.
yeah.... but they aren't...
I would like to think they would have more sense (but that's unlikely too...)
Dude -no one told them girls to drop a thing because Cosby is famous...
because not one of them can produce a witness now to say they were told about the incident(s) at the time - not one.
The women I know - all of them talk to someone, mother best friend sister whateva
You need to seperate your love for Bill Cosby from the acts of a sick man. Trust me I go back and forth as well, but I refuse to vouch for a man merely because I like his legacy in entertainment.
yeah.... but they aren't...
I would like to think they would have more sense (but that's unlikely too...)
Dude -no one told them girls to drop a thing because Cosby is famous...
because not one of them can produce a witness now to say they were told about the incident(s) at the time - not one.
The women I know - all of them talk to someone, mother best friend sister whateva
I don't love Cosby...
this isn't RKelly... who is facing plausible condemning victim stories and video evidence
In Cosby's case there is no evidence- and worse there is no logic to any of victim's stories
none of their stories stand up to even the most basic of questions...
but so many are trying to apply logic of so many accusers means there must be some truth to assault accusations.
Just read the stories of every accuser - they all stink to high heaven
Not to mention they all sound the same...
Mr. Met - you seem to be answering from emotion vs. facts and/or you don't know about entertainment & investing.
The OPPOSITE of most of your points are the truth in this case.
Oprah was independently distributed by KING WORLD @ the height of her growth spurt - NOT an ABC employee during her most influential years.
People use OPM in leveraged buyouts. You don't spend ALL your own money. You may have to put something in but not EVERY DOLLAR you have!
And you partner with people too!
Just what does "making it in Hollywood" mean anyway (in your view)?
You have 2 men who already "made it" pictured - and many people want to emulate their success.
Repeat - you seem to be answering from emotion vs. facts and/or you don't know about entertainment & investing.
and Drayonis - the casting couch is real! Been in play from waaaaay back. Cos in the 1960s & 70s used the couch often.
The 1980s & 90s brought about a change - NOT in the couch use but awareness of it with the negative connotation.
But old habits die hard & Cos just kept saying hey-Hey-HEY! Times were very different from 1960 - 1980. Women were treated like shit!
White men made the rules & Cos was large enough to play the game the same. 'I-Spy' put him on and there was no turning back from that!
Look at these print ads from the 1960s - 70s and imagine them running today:
The OPPOSITE of most of your points are the truth in this case.
Oprah was independently distributed by KING WORLD @ the height of her growth spurt - NOT an ABC employee during her most influential years.
People use OPM in leveraged buyouts. You don't spend ALL your own money. You may have to put something in but not EVERY DOLLAR you have!
And you partner with people too!
Just what does "making it in Hollywood" mean anyway (in your view)?
You have 2 men who already "made it" pictured - and many people want to emulate their success.
Repeat - you seem to be answering from emotion vs. facts and/or you don't know about entertainment & investing.
and Drayonis - the casting couch is real! Been in play from waaaaay back. Cos in the 1960s & 70s used the couch often.
The 1980s & 90s brought about a change - NOT in the couch use but awareness of it with the negative connotation.
But old habits die hard & Cos just kept saying hey-Hey-HEY! Times were very different from 1960 - 1980. Women were treated like shit!
White men made the rules & Cos was large enough to play the game the same. 'I-Spy' put him on and there was no turning back from that!
Look at these print ads from the 1960s - 70s and imagine them running today:
Clown ass post.
You are under this delusion of BLACK ownership, BLACK control, and BLACK dollars.Mr. Met - you seem to be answering from emotion vs. facts and/or you don't know about entertainment & investing.
The OPPOSITE of most of your points are the truth in this case.
Oprah was independently distributed by KING WORLD @ the height of her growth spurt - NOT an ABC employee during her most influential years.
People use OPM in leveraged buyouts. You don't spend ALL your own money. You may have to put something in but not EVERY DOLLAR you have!
And you partner with people too!
Just what does "making it in Hollywood" mean anyway (in your view)?
You have 2 men who already "made it" pictured - and many people want to emulate their success.
Repeat - you seem to be answering from emotion vs. facts and/or you don't know about entertainment & investing.
and Drayonis - the casting couch is real! Been in play from waaaaay back. Cos in the 1960s & 70s used the couch often.
The 1980s & 90s brought about a change - NOT in the couch use but awareness of it with the negative connotation.
But old habits die hard & Cos just kept saying hey-Hey-HEY! Times were very different from 1960 - 1980. Women were treated like shit!
White men made the rules & Cos was large enough to play the game the same. 'I-Spy' put him on and there was no turning back from that!
Look at these print ads from the 1960s - 70s and imagine them running today:
When you partner with billion dollar Jewish investment companies and European banks as the article stated, that goes out the window as does this perceived black programming.
Man Ive gotta say it, your absolutely right on this reply!! They dont want us in any ownership of anything!! I can point out a thousands things they dont want us owning or controlling!! Entertainment being on top of that list is one of them..
True!!
Bruh, they aint going to touch those sick fuckers that mess with those kids!!
uh, TRUE wealth doesn't concern themselves with ownership. Just meet revenue benchmarks so return on investment promises are kept.
that's what investors are concerned about.
you think these 4 BLACK STARS would keep it a secret they want majority ownership = control?
and from a marketing standpoint, it may not be labeled a BLACK channel anyway, just because of ownership.
what color does 'TV One' or 'CENTRIX' bring to mind? I guess you need it to say "BLACK" in order for it to be BLACK.
the power is in the contract, NOT the faces at the press conference announcement.
you're so worried about the BLACK part, when it's really about getting the deal done.
you get the deal done 1st, then your programming follows.
it's clear you're out of your lane, Brother.
Considering Cos and associates were trying buy NBC in 1992 and this current controversy has been going on the last two years or so we can say with about 100% certainty that this has nothing to do with buying NBC. GE sold NBC to Comcast in 2011. Nearly 20yrs after the fact. Cosby is in trouble because he tried to live two lives. He had this public persona which he projected with great effect and then he had this other life that was more like most men both in and out of Hollywood. Pretty much ready to pounce on some pussy given the right opportunity. Cosby took it one step further and tried to have his tryst become less risky in his mind by having the women drugged to some degree. It's crazy really but it's definitely some type hang-up this guy has. He really didn't want to risk having a relationship with these women on the side but he wanted to fuck them. Bill nearly got away with it but he lived to long and he went to far. When the Cos began his Social Criticism of Lower middle class and poor Black America he left his right flank open. In the new age of the Internet what's done in the dark is brought to light at the speed light. Clearly Cosby's exploits were no secrets in certain circles but they hadn't bubbled up to the surface in the 21st century in the age of social media until Hannibal Burris did his little set that got the ball rolling. It's not a classic conspiracy it's just the way things work today. If you out here fucking up behind closed doors keep that in mind before you start lecturing to others.
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dude your 3rd sentence dosen't even make sense..didn't i say the story goes oprah, jordan, cosby were trying to start their own station and both cosby son and jordan father was killed for it..they didn't do it cause they would've got killed trying to do so..that's the whole point..when blacks attempt progress cacs destroy it..black wall street is juss 1 of the examples..why was black wall street destroyed cause it represented progress , independent, power, and economic growth for the black man.. if more blacks would've heard this they mite have gravitated to that area or started others in diff parts of america..cacs don't want that so they destroyed it..jordan, oprah, cosby combining forces literally would've changed entertainment as we kno it and more than likely changed some of our people mentality altogether for the better so it must be stopped in the whiteman eyes
Didn’t the same thing happen with Irv Gotti, Suge Knight and some other guys when they tried to start their own black record label?oprah had multi nationality following, cosby had millions of followers, jordan is global following..now combined them 3 mass appeal and influence under 1 umbrella..you think people like spike lee, eddie murphy, arsenio , denzel, etc wouldn't jumped on the bandwagon asking to produce some kinda content for their network..hell could u imagine oprah in the afternoon and arsenio at nite time in the 90's
oprah had multi nationality following, cosby had millions of followers, jordan is global following..now combined them 3 mass appeal and influence under 1 umbrella..you think people like spike lee, eddie murphy, arsenio , denzel, etc wouldn't jumped on the bandwagon asking to produce some kinda content for their network..hell could u imagine oprah in the afternoon and arsenio at nite time in the 90's
http://www.mtv.com/news/1672252/irv-gotti-suge-knight-union/
"It wasn't a distribution; it was a union. In the music business, the artists, we have no union. There's no health care, it's nothing like that. It should be done," Gotti said, crediting Suge with devising the plan.
"It was all his plan, and it was a hell of a plan," Irv said of the union that would include all artists of every genre. "He was like, 'OK, say you got a million-dollar budget. We're gonna make the record label make it a million and one.' Now, this will all get recouped back to the artist, but that hundred thousand will go for the union."
And dont forget a major airline...
Not saying that's no reason to stop trying to achieve it
It's more of an initiative to keep going and do it better..
Like an airline ran on solar power..
Or our own neighborhoods ran alternative
Energy fuck a con edison...
And having our own networks is gonna get
Easier and easier to accomplish...
Just as technology is making it easier and easier to produce movies
So will it be for network ownership as people
Look at the threat Netflix and amazon has become...
They even got apple getting into it..
Major networks are low key shitting bricks
If the internet says it's true then it's true. If a man had sex with a woman in the 70's while they were on drugs that makes him a serial rapist.....logic be damned.
I agree
I think those women didn't come clean because of attitudes like yours "No one will believe me if I do" guess, what? They were right.
Man, if you really believe +30 some-odd white women in the 60s and 70s
ALL made the same decisions after being sexually assault by a black man and then
ALL told not a single soul about it at the time and in some cases remained silent decades later ?
My guess is every December you still expect Xmas gifts from Santa Claus too...
lol..all i have to say is i don't kno if cosby is 100 percent innocent but i def can say not all 100 percent of them females telling the truth
Man, if you really believe +30 some-odd white women in the 60s and 70s
ALL made the same decisions after being sexually assault by a black man and then
ALL told not a single soul about it at the time and in some cases remained silent decades later ?
My guess is every December you still expect Xmas gifts from Santa Claus too...
game changed already
original content: youtube, facebook watch
there are exclusive black series on those and doing quite well
look up "Insecure" on youtube
http://www.bgol.us/forum/index.php?...nd-the-rise-of-black-original-content.967435/
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