the Nazi were kicking the Soviets ass they made it to Moscow and St Petersburg. If the Nazis wouldn't have had to defend against the Allies the Soviets would have lost easilyYou know what
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the Nazi were kicking the Soviets ass they made it to Moscow and St Petersburg. If the Nazis wouldn't have had to defend against the Allies the Soviets would have lost easilyYou know what
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The most important determinging factor will be the economic
strength.
The Indians make few weapons, which they do not even buy.
They their own jet fighter called the Tejas, and then abandoned it
in favour of that French fraud called the Raphaele which is costing
them US$300 million per plane. The Chinese meanwhile have
their own flying stealth plane, built in China on plans stolen from
the US and Russia...
The Chinese are stronger because every weapon they buy from
Russia, they reverse engineer and produce in numbers.
The Indians import everything. You cannot go to war on imported
technology and hope to win against an adversary who makes his
own stuff.
The area in dispute is almost completely isolated from India, being
pinched off in the south by Bangladesh, and by Nepal in the North.
It also exposes an enormous front to China. The Chinese have the
superior position, and that is why India would lose the war
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You are a complete idiot. England had already been kicked off the
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continent, and France occupied. The war was between 2 countries:
Germany and the USSR. The USSR destroyed between 85% and 90%
of the Germany army. The USSR saved England from Germany.
That is the historical truth.
You know nothing.
World War IIEdit
Perhaps the most famous example of a two-front war was the European theatreduring World War II, when Hitler's Nazi Germany had to confront the Western Allies on the west and the Soviet Unionto the east. The Germans were unable to repel either of the advances on the two fronts and eventually lost the war. While there were other contributing factors, such as the insufficiency of the Wehrmacht for a long war and the abandonment of blitzkrieg tacticsbecause of fuel shortages and a rising need to defend territory, the two-front war was an important factor in deciding when the German military would be forced to surrender.
The Allies, especially the United States, also fought a two-front war, splitting their forces between the European theatre against Nazi Germany and the Pacific War against Japan. Japan was fighting in both Asia and the Pacific.
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According to Guderian (from his book Panzer Leader, which I have on my shelf),
On the day Operation Barbarosa was started, the German Army had 205 divisions.
Of these 162, or about 80%, were sent to Russia. That ratio never changed. Stalin
begged Roosevelt to open a second front, but the Americans would not move...
The only thing that happened in the West was that Italy went on an adventure in
Africa and got hammered. Hitler then sent Rommel to Africa to save Italy, but
even then, his force was not big enough to be an army, and that is why it was
called the Africa Korps. While 3 million men were in Russia, the Germany force
fighting in the West at first was a Panzer regiment under Rommel in North Africa..
This eventually grew into a corps..
The Americans finally moved into Italy after the Germans were routed at
Stalingrad, and were getting their heads handed to them in during the Battle
of Kursk.
From the there, the Germans were rolled back by the Russians to Poland, while
the Americans were bottled in Italy by Albert Kesselring.
Europe was NOT freed by D-Day. Germany had already been defeated by that
time, and the USSR was just waiting finalise the fact
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Britain won’t back Donald Trump on military strike against North Korean despot Kim Jong Un as PM’s deputy calls for a de-escalation of tension
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/42179...p-on-military-strike-against-north-korea/amp/
Britain won’t back Donald Trump on military strike against North Korean despot Kim Jong Un as PM’s deputy calls for a de-escalation of tension
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/42179...p-on-military-strike-against-north-korea/amp/
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Soviet commander admits USSR came close to defeat by Nazis
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...dmits-USSR-came-close-to-defeat-by-Nazis.html
The Nazis would've had all their forces concentrated on the Soviet Union. The Nazi would've won. No debate.
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Don’t forget how the Soviet Union saved the world from Hitler
By Ishaan Tharoor May 8, 2015
joy and young love in New York. It was a victory shaped by the steeliness of Gen. Dwight D. Eisenhower, the moral fiber of British Prime Minister Winston Churchill, and the awesome power of an atomic bomb.
[What V-E Day was like in London for a U.S. airman on leave from the war]
But that narrative shifts dramatically when you go to Russia, where World War II is called the Great Patriotic War and is remembered in a vastly different light.
Play Video 1:28
Putin presides over Victory Day parade
Russian President Vladimir Putin greeted global leaders arriving for the military parade on Red Square in Moscow marking the 70th anniversary of victory over Nazi Germany.(Reuters)
On May 9, Russian President Vladimir Putin will play host to one of Moscow's largest ever military parades to mark the 70th anniversary of the Soviet Union's victory over Nazi Germany. More than 16,000 troops will participate, as well 140 aircraft and 190 armored vehicles, including the debut of Russia's brand new next-generation tank.
It's a grand moment, but few of the world's major leaders will be in attendance. The heads of state of India and China will look on, but not many among their Western counterparts. That is a reflection of the tense geopolitical present, with Putin's relations with the West having turned frosty after a year of Russian meddling in Ukraine. When Russia's T-14 Armata tank broke down at a parade rehearsal on Thursday, the snickering could be heard across Western media.
one calculation, for every single American soldier killed fighting the Germans, 80 Soviet soldiers died doing the same.
Of course, the start of the war had been shaped by a Nazi-Soviet pact to carve up the lands in between their borders. Then Hitler turned against the U.S.S.R.
[What one Soviet soldier saw when he entered Auschwitz.]
The Red Army was "the main engine of Nazism’s destruction," writesBritish historian and journalist Max Hastings in "Inferno: The World at War, 1939-1945." The Soviet Union paid the harshest price: though the numbers are not exact, an estimated 26 million Soviet citizens died during World War II, including as many as 11 million soldiers. At the same time, the Germans suffered three-quarters of their wartime losses fighting the Red Army.
"It was the Western Allies’ extreme good fortune that the Russians, and not themselves, paid almost the entire ‘butcher’s bill’ for [defeating Nazi Germany], accepting 95 per cent of the military casualties of the three major powers of the Grand Alliance," writes Hastings.
Play Video 2:57
See Moscow celebrating victory over Nazi Germany in 1945
Moscow will host on Saturday one of Russia's largest ever military parades, marking the 70th anniversary of the Soviet Union's victory over Nazi Germany. This footage show the victory parade on Red Square in 1945. (AFP)
The epic battles that eventually rolled back the Nazi advance -- the brutal winter siege of Stalingrad, the clash of thousands of armored vehicles at Kursk (the biggest tank battle in history) -- had no parallel on the Western Front, where the Nazis committed fewer military assets. The savagery on display was also of a different degree than that experienced farther west.
Hitler viewed much of what's now Eastern Europe as a site for "lebensraum" -- living space for an expanding German empire and race. What that entailed was the horrifying, systematic attempt to depopulate whole swaths of the continent. This included the wholesale massacre of millions of European Jews, the majority of whom lived outside Germany's pre-war borders to the east. But millions of others were also killed, abused, dispossessed of their lands and left to starve.
Bloodlands: Europe between Hitler and Stalin."
By 1943, the Soviet Union had already lost some 5 million soldiers and two-thirds of its industrial capacity to the Nazi advance. That it was yet able to turn back the German invasion is testament to the courage of the Soviet war effort. But it came at a shocking price.
In his memoirs, Eisenhower was appalled by the extent of the carnage:
When we flew into Russia, in 1945, I did not see a house standing between the western borders of the country and the area around Moscow. Through this overrun region, Marshal Zhukov told me, so many numbers of women, children and old men had been killed that the Russian Government would never be able to estimate the total.
To be sure, as Snyder documents, the Soviet Union under Stalin also had the blood of millions on its hands. In the years preceding World War II, Stalinist purges led to the death and starvation of millions. The horrors were compounded by the Nazi invasion.
"In Soviet Ukraine, Soviet Belarus, and the Leningrad district, lands where the Stalinist regime had starved and shot some four million people in the previous eight years, German forces managed to starve and shoot even more in half the time," Snyder writes. He says that between 1933 and 1945 in the "bloodlands" -- the broad sweep of territory on the periphery of the Soviet and Nazi realms -- some 14 million civilians were killed.
By some accounts, 60 percent of Soviet households lost a member of their nuclear family.
For Russia's neighbors, it's hard to separate the Soviet triumph from the decades of Cold War domination that followed. One can also lament the way the sacrifices of the past inform the muscular Russian nationalism now peddled by Putin and his Kremlin allies. But we shouldn't forget how the Soviets won World War II in Europe.
Today's WorldView
What's most important from where the world meets Washington
_______________________________________
WorldViews
Don’t forget how the Soviet Union saved the world from Hitler
By Ishaan Tharoor May 8, 2015
joy and young love in New York. It was a victory shaped by the steeliness of Gen. Dwight D. Eisenhower, the moral fiber of British Prime Minister Winston Churchill, and the awesome power of an atomic bomb.
[What V-E Day was like in London for a U.S. airman on leave from the war]
But that narrative shifts dramatically when you go to Russia, where World War II is called the Great Patriotic War and is remembered in a vastly different light.
Play Video 1:28
Putin presides over Victory Day parade
Russian President Vladimir Putin greeted global leaders arriving for the military parade on Red Square in Moscow marking the 70th anniversary of victory over Nazi Germany.(Reuters)
On May 9, Russian President Vladimir Putin will play host to one of Moscow's largest ever military parades to mark the 70th anniversary of the Soviet Union's victory over Nazi Germany. More than 16,000 troops will participate, as well 140 aircraft and 190 armored vehicles, including the debut of Russia's brand new next-generation tank.
It's a grand moment, but few of the world's major leaders will be in attendance. The heads of state of India and China will look on, but not many among their Western counterparts. That is a reflection of the tense geopolitical present, with Putin's relations with the West having turned frosty after a year of Russian meddling in Ukraine. When Russia's T-14 Armata tank broke down at a parade rehearsal on Thursday, the snickering could be heard across Western media.
one calculation, for every single American soldier killed fighting the Germans, 80 Soviet soldiers died doing the same.
Of course, the start of the war had been shaped by a Nazi-Soviet pact to carve up the lands in between their borders. Then Hitler turned against the U.S.S.R.
[What one Soviet soldier saw when he entered Auschwitz.]
The Red Army was "the main engine of Nazism’s destruction," writesBritish historian and journalist Max Hastings in "Inferno: The World at War, 1939-1945." The Soviet Union paid the harshest price: though the numbers are not exact, an estimated 26 million Soviet citizens died during World War II, including as many as 11 million soldiers. At the same time, the Germans suffered three-quarters of their wartime losses fighting the Red Army.
"It was the Western Allies’ extreme good fortune that the Russians, and not themselves, paid almost the entire ‘butcher’s bill’ for [defeating Nazi Germany], accepting 95 per cent of the military casualties of the three major powers of the Grand Alliance," writes Hastings.
Play Video 2:57
See Moscow celebrating victory over Nazi Germany in 1945
Moscow will host on Saturday one of Russia's largest ever military parades, marking the 70th anniversary of the Soviet Union's victory over Nazi Germany. This footage show the victory parade on Red Square in 1945. (AFP)
The epic battles that eventually rolled back the Nazi advance -- the brutal winter siege of Stalingrad, the clash of thousands of armored vehicles at Kursk (the biggest tank battle in history) -- had no parallel on the Western Front, where the Nazis committed fewer military assets. The savagery on display was also of a different degree than that experienced farther west.
Hitler viewed much of what's now Eastern Europe as a site for "lebensraum" -- living space for an expanding German empire and race. What that entailed was the horrifying, systematic attempt to depopulate whole swaths of the continent. This included the wholesale massacre of millions of European Jews, the majority of whom lived outside Germany's pre-war borders to the east. But millions of others were also killed, abused, dispossessed of their lands and left to starve.
Bloodlands: Europe between Hitler and Stalin."
By 1943, the Soviet Union had already lost some 5 million soldiers and two-thirds of its industrial capacity to the Nazi advance. That it was yet able to turn back the German invasion is testament to the courage of the Soviet war effort. But it came at a shocking price.
In his memoirs, Eisenhower was appalled by the extent of the carnage:
When we flew into Russia, in 1945, I did not see a house standing between the western borders of the country and the area around Moscow. Through this overrun region, Marshal Zhukov told me, so many numbers of women, children and old men had been killed that the Russian Government would never be able to estimate the total.
To be sure, as Snyder documents, the Soviet Union under Stalin also had the blood of millions on its hands. In the years preceding World War II, Stalinist purges led to the death and starvation of millions. The horrors were compounded by the Nazi invasion.
"In Soviet Ukraine, Soviet Belarus, and the Leningrad district, lands where the Stalinist regime had starved and shot some four million people in the previous eight years, German forces managed to starve and shoot even more in half the time," Snyder writes. He says that between 1933 and 1945 in the "bloodlands" -- the broad sweep of territory on the periphery of the Soviet and Nazi realms -- some 14 million civilians were killed.
By some accounts, 60 percent of Soviet households lost a member of their nuclear family.
For Russia's neighbors, it's hard to separate the Soviet triumph from the decades of Cold War domination that followed. One can also lament the way the sacrifices of the past inform the muscular Russian nationalism now peddled by Putin and his Kremlin allies. But we shouldn't forget how the Soviets won World War II in Europe.
Today's WorldView
What's most important from where the world meets Washington
They were almost defeated, but they came back and won the war.
England and France WERE defeated in Europe.
Why would Britain need to back the US strike against North Korea?
I posted to say that trump is on his own with this call
10pm tomorrow my time.
England was never defeated. France was occupied. The Nazi Air force were bombing England and the Navy was involved in the Atlantic, all while also in Northern Africa and deep into Soviet Union territory all still going on in 1943. The Nazis were fighting and focused on several different fronts. If it was straight up Nazis versus the Soviets the Nazis would have won. Stalin feared Hitler and did everything in his power not to go to war with the Nazis.... even signing that BS non-aggression treaty
The strongest part of the German military were sent to
and destr
Had it not been for Herman Goering, all 340, 000 of them would have
been slaughtered by Guderian and Rommel on the beaches of Dunkirk.
France was occupied? How do you occupy a country without defeating it?
I am not sure what you are talking about, but Hitler made the French
sign their surrender in the same railway wagon where the German had
been forced to surrender in WW1
and destr
The English expeditionary force was defeated and kicked out of Europe.
Had it not been for Herman Goering, all 340, 000 of them would have
been slaughtered by Guderian and Rommel on the beaches of Dunkirk.
France was occupied? How do you occupy a country without defeating it?
I am not sure what you are talking about, but Hitler made the French
sign their surrender in the same railway wagon where the German had
been forced to surrender in WW1
1940
France to surrender
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With Paris fallen and the German conquest of France reaching its conclusion, Marshal Henri Petain replaces Paul Reynaud as prime minister and announces his intention to sign an armistice with the Nazis. The next day, French General Charles de Gaulle, not very well known even to the French, made a broadcast to France from England, urging his countrymen to continue the fight against Germany.
A military hero during World War I, Petain was appointed vice premier of France in May 1940 to boost morale in a country crumbling under the force of the Nazi invasion. Instead, Petain arranged an armistice with the Nazis. The armistice, signed by the French on June 22, went into effect on June 25, and more than half of France was occupied by the Germans. In July, Petain took office as “chief of state” at Vichy, a city in unoccupied France. The Vichy government under Petain collaborated with the Nazis, and French citizens suffered on both sides of the divided nation. In 1942, Pierre Laval, an opportunistic French fascist and dutiful Nazi collaborator, won the trust of Nazi leader Adolf Hitler, and the elderly Petain became merely a figurehead in the Vichy regime.
After the Normandy invasion in 1944, Petain and Laval were forced to flee to German protection in the east. Both were eventually captured, found guilty of high treason, and sentenced to die. Laval was executed in 1945, but provincial French leader Charles de Gaulle commuted Petain’s sentence to life imprisonment. Petain died on the Ile d’Yeu off France in 1951.
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With Paris fallen and the German conquest of France reaching its conclusion, Marshal Henri Petain replaces Paul Reynaud as prime minister and announces his intention to sign an armistice with the Nazis. The next day, French General Charles de Gaulle, not very well known even to the French, made a broadcast to France from England, urging his countrymen to continue the fight against Germany.
A military hero during World War I, Petain was appointed vice premier of France in May 1940 to boost morale in a country crumbling under the force of the Nazi invasion. Instead, Petain arranged an armistice with the Nazis. The armistice, signed by the French on June 22, went into effect on June 25, and more than half of France was occupied by the Germans. In July, Petain took office as “chief of state” at Vichy, a city in unoccupied France. The Vichy government under Petain collaborated with the Nazis, and French citizens suffered on both sides of the divided nation. In 1942, Pierre Laval, an opportunistic French fascist and dutiful Nazi collaborator, won the trust of Nazi leader Adolf Hitler, and the elderly Petain became merely a figurehead in the Vichy regime.
After the Normandy invasion in 1944, Petain and Laval were forced to flee to German protection in the east. Both were eventually captured, found guilty of high treason, and sentenced to die. Laval was executed in 1945, but provincial French leader Charles de Gaulle commuted Petain’s sentence to life imprisonment. Petain died on the Ile d’Yeu off France in 1951.
On June 17, in the southern city of Bordeaux, what remained of the French government decided to seek an armistice. Hitler insisted on the armistice being signed in the Compiegne Forest, where, in a railroad dining car, 22 years earlier Germany had been forced to sign the armistice ending World War I.
France was occupied meaning clearly it was defeated...duh
England was never defeated never stopped fighting and was never occupied.
The English were kicked out of Europe, and the Hitler made
a half-hearted attempt to subdue them. But in the long run,
they had nothing to offer Germany, and that is why Hitler
turned east to purse his long held plan to acquire Lebensraum
in the East...
Da golf war tho'. Ol' General Tiger Woods ass.
The war would be fought in China. The Chinese are a comparable
military power, and fighting a home war would give them a tremendous
advantage.
Remember that before the 1st Gulf War, the Americans had to spend
months building up military and logistical capacity in Saudi Arabia.
It was when this was completed that they were able to attack Iraq.
In this case, the Americans would need to deploy an even bigger force
in order to contend with China, and even with that, they would have
impossible supply lines...
This war would not favour the US at all
military power, and fighting a home war would give them a tremendous
advantage.
Remember that before the 1st Gulf War, the Americans had to spend
months building up military and logistical capacity in Saudi Arabia.
It was when this was completed that they were able to attack Iraq.
In this case, the Americans would need to deploy an even bigger force
in order to contend with China, and even with that, they would have
impossible supply lines...
This war would not favour the US at all
Your ignorance is hilarious. The. Didn't succeed in preventing France from falling but the Navy and Airforce continue fighting out of England and fought together with America in Northern Africa...like I said Nazis were fighting on two fronts
No you are the one who knows nothing, and it shows in this exchange..
Have you ever heard of Operation Catapult at Mers-el-Kebir?
Time to go to school and get yourself a lot more education...
Because everytime you say something, I will expose your
ignorance
Back to the op
There will be no US China war.
WorldEX Amarjoroldfuckup fakeafican, and Easy B get off China's nuts
There will be no US China war.
WorldEX Amarjoroldfuckup fakeafican, and Easy B get off China's nuts
You're retarded.
you have to be asked to stupid questions because of your ignorance
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