Protests over Rashan Charles death in London

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London protests erupt over death of Rashan Charles
29 JULY 2017

Anger spills into the streets after 20-year-old Rashan Charles, a black father, died having been forcefully pinned down.

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Charles' family has raised $1,712 to help pay for the victim's funeral [Charles family/GoFundMe.com]
Protesters angry over the death of a young black father after he was restrained by an officer have faced off with riot police in east London.


Clashes erupted on the streets of Hackney late on Friday, as police on horseback armed with batons tried to disperse the protesters, some of whom held "Black Lives Matter" placards.

Authorities are investigating the events that preceded the death of 20-year-old Rashan Charles.

He died in a London hospital on July 22, shortly after he was tackled to the floor and apprehended by a white officer in a small grocery shop.

A member of the public joined that officer in forcefully pinning Charles to the floor.

The moment Charles was restrained was caught on CCTV camera and has been shared widely on social media.

Friday's clashes were reminiscent of an uprising in England in 2011, which saw public anger explode on the streets following the death of a British black man, Mark Duggan, at the hands of police.

Protesters lit mattresses on fire and smashed shopfronts of some local businesses. Some threw bottles at police.

A police spokeswoman said she could not immediately confirm the number of arrests.

Meanwhile, Charles' family has set up a GoFundMe page that has so far collected more than $1,700, all of which is going towards funeral costs.

"The family are in need of practical support in order to bury their loved one and pay the costs that they need in order to get #Justice4Rash, their son, for the brutal and unjust way he was slain," the fundraiser page says.

In a Facebook page managed by the family, "Justice For Rashan", relatives called for calm.

"Be assured we are determined to get answers as to how and why this fatality happened," a statement posted on Thursday read. "We will use every lawful method available to achieve these ends."

#Justice4Rash

Following Charles' death, besides street protests, anger has erupted on social media with many demanding action from authorities.

Twitter hashtags #Justiceforrash and #blacklivesmatter have been trending, with pictures and videos of the protests, as well as tributes for the young victim.

The government-funded Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC) said it would investigate the case "thoroughly and rigorously".

"We will independently examine the circumstances of this incident, we will follow the evidence, we will consider whether there is an indication there may have been misconduct or criminality, and we will seek to answer the questions that Rashan's family and the community of Hackney understandably have," the IPCC said in a statement.

Charles' death comes less than one month after Edson Da Costa, also a young black man and father, died in police custody.

In June, protesters gathered outside London's Stratford bus station and Forest Gate police station to decry the death of the 25-year-old, who they say was "brutally beaten" by officers.

Da Costa died on 21 June, six days after being stopped in a car in Woodcocks, Beckton, in Newham, east London.

The IPCC claimed that a number of packages were removed from Edson's throat.

But campaigners said he suffered serious injuries to his head and neck after he was stopped.


The IPCC said a post-mortem into Da Costa's death revealed no signs of neck or spinal injuries but the investigation continues as the cause of death is yet to be established.


 
Wish we had the ballz to fight back like that over here. But we neutered and shit.
That psychology of Americans has always intrigued me.

Why tf are we so willing to sit there and take shit? Do we value shopping malls and security over doing the right thing more? I understand everyone wants to get that paper, but have we sold ourselves to the point of no return?

Feels like humanity is damn near non existent here.
 
That psychology of Americans has always intrigued me.

Why tf are we so willing to sit there and take shit? Do we value shopping malls and security over doing the right thing more? I understand everyone wants to get that paper, but have we sold ourselves to the point of no return?

Feels like humanity is damn near non existent here.

Indeed it does.

I think we are more concern with pursuit of pleasure and decadence than freedom.

to be fair tho some of them don't carry guns...idk if the circumstances are different under those conditions where they're dealing w/ protesters

Yes that does play a part in embolden them to react like they do. So it's pretty even.

Nah that ain't it
If we had to fight dude in florescent jackets and Billy clubs we probably would

Our police have combat gear military weapons and actual tanks

Huge difference

We outnumber them and we have 2nd Amendment rights.

We should be just as embolden to fight back.

No excuses.
 
Indeed it does.

I think we are more concern with pursuit of pleasure and decadence than freedom.



Yes that does play a part in embolden them to react like they do. So it's pretty even.



We outnumber them and we have 2nd Amendment rights.

We should be just as embolden to fight back.

No excuses.

That sounds silly af fam.
You see how bottles and shit is different than warfare with tanks and shit right
 
Wish we had the ballz to fight back like that over here. But we neutered and shit.
Where were you in the 50s and 60s and how do you think we got civil rights legislation passed?

Also, you do realize we have militarized police forces and federal troops on speed dial here right ?
 
Where were you in the 50s and 60s and how do you think we got civil rights legislation passed?

Also, you do realize we have militarized police forces and federal troops on speed dial here right ?

All I hear is excuses.

Which means we are content with the way things are.

Legislation happened after the marches. After the violence in the streets. The non-violent marches set up by the King and the civil rights movement wasn't devoid of violence. It was a clever strategy to illustrate the ugliness of the violence against black people. And young kids risked their lives to do it.

And we have more choices than they did back then so what the fuck is we doing?
 
So we don't make an attempt to fight back at all? Because they have tanks and shit?

Al Queda didn't think so, Taliban didn't either.

Now you're doing that thing where it's either or
Who said don't fight back
You started saying like them.
I said it won't be like them and pointed out the difference.
You then say no excuses.
Yes there is excuses
And even still your sentiment was wrong because we fight back all the damn time we fight back every single time
You acting like we don't stand up to the police and educate ourselves and work to try to change policy and everything else
If you calling for all of us to get slaughtered cause at least we fighting instead of attacking things on all fronts including showing force to a point then I can't get with that
 
Wish we had the ballz to fight back like that over here. But we neutered and shit.
Very true. We have actually learned how to work and pay taxes to increase things like this. Some of us are struggling to break the control. If we do not make it in time we are doomed. There has always been genocide against us. We have went from being the only people of the earth to this. And there is still the threat of total recall and us taking the earth back from Satan.
Men like Washington, Rothschild, etc. molded the world we were born in. A world that worships war, use eugenics to kill off real blacks and real blackness, etc.
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http://oneblacknation.webs.com/
 
All I hear is excuses.

Which means we are content with the way things are.

Legislation happened after the marches. After the violence in the streets. The non-violent marches set up by the King and the civil rights movement wasn't devoid of violence. It was a clever strategy to illustrate the ugliness of the violence against black people. And young kids risked their lives to do it.

And we have more choices than they did back then so what the fuck is we doing?

More than you know apparently
 
All I hear is excuses.

Which means we are content with the way things are.

Legislation happened after the marches. After the violence in the streets. The non-violent marches set up by the King and the civil rights movement wasn't devoid of violence. It was a clever strategy to illustrate the ugliness of the violence against black people. And young kids risked their lives to do it.

And we have more choices than they did back then so what the fuck is we doing?
I think you need to ask yourself what are YOU doing. You can't talk about an abundance of choices while advocating for primitive bottle and rock throwing.
 
Now you're doing that thing where it's either or
Who said don't fight back
You started saying like them.
I said it won't be like them and pointed out the difference.
You then say no excuses.
Yes there is excuses
And even still your sentiment was wrong because we fight back all the damn time we fight back every single time
You acting like we don't stand up to the police and educate ourselves and work to try to change policy and everything else
If you calling for all of us to get slaughtered cause at least we fighting instead of attacking things on all fronts including showing force to a point then I can't get with that

You talking semantics and making it very literal.

I didn't say fight back using bottles and sticks against tanks and tear gas like they have over here lol hells to the naw.

The emphasis is on fighting back period. I qualified that statement by saying we ain't got the ballz. The spirit to rebell against crimes against our humanity.

You say we fighting back but where? Where is the change in policy?

We are getting slaughtered anyway without fighting back. We have a pinned thread created by Lexx Diamond at the top of this forum dedicated to those people of color murdered by the police.

This has been an ongoing problem for years now. Educate me because I don't see how this change in policy or fighting back we are doing you speak of is helping slow down what's happening in that thread.

Don't shit change in this country without violence happening first. Thought y'all would've realized that by now. How long we suppose to push papers to get legislation to stop these crimes against our humanity ?
 
You talking semantics and making it very literal.

I didn't say fight back using bottles and sticks against tanks and tear gas like they have over here lol hells to the naw.

The emphasis is on fighting back period. I qualified that statement by saying we ain't got the ballz. The spirit to rebell against crimes against our humanity.

You say we fighting back but where? Where is the change in policy?

We are getting slaughtered anyway without fighting back. We have a pinned thread created by Lexx Diamond at the top of this forum dedicated to those people of color murdered by the police.

This has been an ongoing problem for years now. Educate me because I don't see how this change in policy or fighting back we are doing you speak of is helping slow down what's happening in that thread.

Don't shit change in this country without violence happening first. Thought y'all would've realized that by now. How long we suppose to push papers to get legislation to stop these crimes against our humanity ?

Again you keep saying we not fighting back because we aren't fighting back exactly the way you want us to

And I never said bottles vs tanks

I said they can because there won't be any tanks on deck like here.

You're clearly frustrated which is great
But don't talk down to ppl like me who as I type this is actually out here trying to empower the youth with the tools to fight back intelligently so they can put it on the line and not be unorganized and go out in a cloud of smoke for no change at all
 
I think you need to ask yourself what are YOU doing. You can't talk about an abundance of choices while advocating for primitive bottle and rock throwing.

I know what I'm doing. However, even what I'm doing isn't enough imo.

Advocating bottle and rock throwing? :hmm:

What I'm saying is the fight needs to be fought on all fronts.

With the limited life options our ancestors had during slavery and still they rebelled. Same in the 60's and 70's. The same spirit needs to be recaptured for the prestent day.
 
That psychology of Americans has always intrigued me.

Why tf are we so willing to sit there and take shit? Do we value shopping malls and security over doing the right thing more? I understand everyone wants to get that paper, but have we sold ourselves to the point of no return?

Feels like humanity is damn near non existent here.
I think it's because police here have guns are willing to use them for any little thing. In England for example, most cops are not Allowed to carry guns. So the fair of death is not there .
 
Again you keep saying we not fighting back because we aren't fighting back exactly the way you want us to

And I never said bottles vs tanks

I said they can because there won't be any tanks on deck like here.

You're clearly frustrated which is great
But don't talk down to ppl like me who as I type this is actually out here trying to empower the youth with the tools to fight back intelligently so they can put it on the line and not be unorganized and go out in a cloud of smoke for no change at all

And I'm saying just because they have tanks doesn't mean we should shy away from that fight. Taliban fought against tanks, without any of their own and so did Al Qeada.

And I didn't say we aren't fighting back I said where is the fight? Where is the legislation? What has our fight yeilded so far?

Whatever we are doing, it isn't enough.

Whether we differ on how to fight back or stand up, what we are doing currently isn't enough to stop them from killing us with impunity.

That's great what you are doing and I applaud that. But don't talk down to me like what I'm saying is silly. Freedom isn't free and you will have to fight and die for it. That's inescapable.
 
Indeed it does.

I think we are more concern with pursuit of pleasure and decadence than freedom.



Yes that does play a part in embolden them to react like they do. So it's pretty even.



We outnumber them and we have 2nd Amendment rights.

We should be just as embolden to fight back.

No excuses.

Famo, they would call in the Army and National guard. We need to be strategic.
 
And I'm saying just because they have tanks doesn't mean we should shy away from that fight. Taliban fought against tanks, without any of their own and so did Al Qeada.

Nothing is stopping you Breh. Hop off BGOL and go forth.
 
What I'm saying is the fight needs to be fought on all fronts.

With the limited life options our ancestors had during slavery and still they rebelled. Same in the 60's and 70's. The same spirit needs to be recaptured for the prestent day.

That spirit is exactly what I was referring to. I get that other countries don't live in militarized zones the way we do here in America, but that fighting spirit is the only thing that can keep us going and I feel as if it's non existent in many people today. I know my role and educate on every front possible to anyone willing to listen, but the interest.. that Kapernick syndrome seems to just lack.

So long as the status quo remains and people are eating, police on it feels and something's wrong with that.
 
And I'm saying just because they have tanks doesn't mean we should shy away from that fight. Taliban fought against tanks, without any of their own and so did Al Qeada.

And I didn't say we aren't fighting back I said where is the fight? Where is the legislation? What has our fight yeilded so far?

Whatever we are doing, it isn't enough.

Whether we differ on how to fight back or stand up, what we are doing currently isn't enough to stop them from killing us with impunity.

That's great what you are doing and I applaud that. But don't talk down to me like what I'm saying is silly. Freedom isn't free and you will have to fight and die for it. That's inescapable.

Thats the thing
I never talked down to you. I just explained a fundamental difference

You're talking about the Taliban how is that working out for their quality of life and do you see them ever winning? Right.

But at least they fighting tho

Violence is a part of it
The other side is a part of it too
It's frustrating as fuck to try to simplify it like this

We are engraved into this country we have to use all forces in order to take it back
We simply are not in a position tactically to do what you're suggesting we just do
And even still we're arming ourselves and getting guns to protect ourselves and all of the things to ensure we protect our own

You don't change a system designed to keep ppl that look like us fucked up in a week or even years it took generations to get it like this we crushed the old system so they reset it every time we adapt they reset it and by adapt I don't mean accept I mean circumvent it and turn it on its axis

Patience doesn't mean complacent

Strategy doesn't mean hopelessness

Thinking isn't weak

Brute strength isn't always strong

The myriad of levels working right now to do what you're talking about want you to just hold on a little longer and by hold on it don't mean head down it means be ready and prepared but be smart surgical and brilliant with execution when the time comes

And it will as long as we agree that fighting is most important and don't look down on just how everyone chooses to fight
 
I know it's hard man.
that protest shit is cool.
but I hate when brother's risk their lives and freedoms
to murder another brother,
but won't murder a racist cop.​

I ain't talking about a protest bruh.

That spirit is exactly what I was referring to. I get that other countries don't live in militarized zones the way we do here in America, but that fighting spirit is the only thing that can keep us going and I feel as if it's non existent in many people today. I know my role and educate on every front possible to anyone willing to listen, but the interest.. that Kapernick syndrome seems to just lack.

So long as the status quo remains and people iuQare eating, police on it feels and something's wrong with that.

Not only that but without it you will be continually stepped on. If you never stand up to that bully and punch him in the nose he'll keep on.
 
Thats the thing
I never talked down to you. I just explained a fundamental difference

You're talking about the Taliban how is that working out for their quality of life and do you see them ever winning? Right.

But at least they fighting tho

Violence is a part of it
The other side is a part of it too
It's frustrating as fuck to try to simplify it like this

We are engraved into this country we have to use all forces in order to take it back
We simply are not in a position tactically to do what you're suggesting we just do
And even still we're arming ourselves and getting guns to protect ourselves and all of the things to ensure we protect our own

You don't change a system designed to keep ppl that look like us fucked up in a week or even years it took generations to get it like this we crushed the old system so they reset it every time we adapt they reset it and by adapt I don't mean accept I mean circumvent it and turn it on its axis

Patience doesn't mean complacent

Strategy doesn't mean hopelessness

Thinking isn't weak

Brute strength isn't always strong

The myriad of levels working right now to do what you're talking about want you to just hold on a little longer and by hold on it don't mean head down it means be ready and prepared but be smart surgical and brilliant with execution when the time comes

And it will as long as we agree that fighting is most important and don't look down on just how everyone chooses to fight

So now that we agree we should be fighting back this is all I'm saying.

We need to put ourselves in a position to fight back tactically.

But everyone wanna act like I'm talking crazy because I said we should fight back.

Fighting back doesn't = devoid of strategy, intelligence or organization.

It encompasses all of those traits.

However, long it takes isn't the point the point is it needs to happen. Whether it's today, tomorrow or years from now. Hopefully sooner rather than later.
 
british cops don't carry guns, and also don't have the license to murder on site, like here in the US. These Black people have far more protest freedoms that we do in the States, but have far less actual power to change the culture of the UK.

Now if we could only coordinate a active front together
 
So now that we agree we should be fighting back this is all I'm saying.

We need to put ourselves in a position to fight back tactically.

But everyone wanna act like I'm talking crazy because I said we should fight back.

Fighting back doesn't = devoid of strategy, intelligence or organization.

It encompasses all of those traits.

However, long it takes isn't the point the point is it needs to happen. Whether it's today, tomorrow or years from now. Hopefully sooner rather than later.

That's not why anyone had anything to say

We had something to say because you said like them and not acknowledging that it ain't as simple as fighting like them.
We can't fight like them we gotta fight like us
 
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