NBA offseason 2016-2017...NBA offseason best in sports....This offseason is lit to the 3rd degree!!

Nope every brother doesn't appreciate what these young black men like Durant Westbrook Melo CP3 do off the court and that is a huge problem.

Of course sports supposed to be fun...

Fam we need to decompress, have fun joke on these millionaires playing a child game.

I'm a knicks fan.

Jordan LITERALLY made me cry...real tears.

more than once.

He beat us...mercilessly heartbreaking...

And these white folks got you hating lebron cause he argued a flagrant in the finals?

Ya'll ain't even fans of EITHER TEAM?!?

F*ck outta here...you don't see they playing you?

Funny when ESPN finally decided WE were supposed to love Bron again suddenly we dd.

Cause THEY said so.

It's just a game and fun till they say it isn't or is, right?

But if it was just fun?

ESPN etc wouldn't be spending BILLIONS on rights and they wouldn't go put of their way to portray black men and women athletes as savages from broken homes who just need massa to guide them.

Burning jerseys rioting...is cool when white folk do it...it's PASSION.

Black players scared to play in Boston

And they wouldn't be spray painting nigg*r on his door.

Blackballed over a knee.

Ask a black man WHY he hates Bron and curry and steph...

The REAL REASON.

even to use the word HATE.

and don't give me fan is short for fanatic either.

Again I don't care what y'all choose to do.

But don't think it's just a game.

It has never been just that

Go ask black jack Johnson, Jesse owens, and Jackie Robinson.
:yes: real shit bein said in these posts
 
Gilbert offered Billups $1.5 million? :smh: Didn't even interview other candidates? He's in full-blown "We Ain't beating GS, so fuck it" mode. Wonder where Bron will end up next year.
Where you saw this I heard 3 but billups wanted 5, griffin wanted 6
 
Don't most general managers make 1-3 million a year? Billups doesn't have a resume......is that really below market value?
 
Average is $4mm

Oh damn.....this is a old article so shit might've changed by now.....


There are no restrictions -- floors or ceilings -- on pay for coaches and GMs, and the theory of vast pay inequality has largely not come true. These days, most GMs are grouped around $1-3 million annually. (It should be noted GM salary is reported sporadically.) Most NBA coaches make $2-5 million.

 
Sources: Knicks in touch with Rajon Rondo for Frank Ntilikina mentor role
The Knicks are interested in Rajon Rondo as a veteran mentor to rookie Frank Ntilikina. Mike DiNovo/USA TODAY Sports
8:57 AM ET



People in touch with the New York Knicks this week came away with the impression that the team has two distinct short-term goals: to find a suitable trade for Carmelo Anthony and to find a veteran point guard to help mentor rookie Frank Ntilikina.

Members of the organization remain hopeful they can find a trade for Anthony that makes sense for all parties (Anthony, who has a no-trade clause, has made it known that he'd waive it for a trade to Houston or Cleveland, according to ESPN's Adrian Wojnarowski).

So what about the point guard spot?

The Knicks have touched base with free agents Derrick Rose, Rajon Rondo and Shelvin Mack. They were also in contact with George Hill and Darren Collison, but both guards signed elsewhere.

Rose has met with the Clippers and Bucks, Wojnarowski reported, and he has some supporters in the Knicks organization. But there is far from a consensus on bringing Rose back. The interest in bringing Rose back on a team-friendly contract was "legitimate" before Phil Jackson was fired, according to sources.

What about Rondo? It would seem that Rondo is a strong free-agent option for New York because he could teach Ntilikina the importance and art of sharing the ball at the NBA level. But several people in touch with the Knicks earlier in the week got the impression that not everyone in the organization was high on Rondo.

Mack, 27, is a six-year veteran and a great locker-room presence. But he averaged eight points and three assists in 23 minutes per game last season and is viewed as a fallback option as a starter by some in the organization, according to sources.



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The Knicks, among other teams, were also contacted by the Boston Celtics about a potential Marcus Smart trade earlier this week, sources said. The Knicks' interest in Smart is unclear at this point, but you can assume the Celtics would want someone like Willy Hernangomez and/or a pick back in a trade. If so, that would be a steep price for a rebuilding team such as the Knicks to pay.

The Knicks, who have about $15 million in cap space if they rescind the rights to Rose, also showed interest in Dion Waiters. But Waiters decided to re-sign with the Miami Heat on Wednesday. According to Wojnarowski, Waiters agreed to a deal with the Heat worth $13 million annually. That kind of offer would have taken up most of the Knicks' cap space -- unless they would've cleared some room via trade.



That's an option members of the organization have explored during free agency, according to sources.

The obvious candidates for trades are Courtney Lee and Kyle O'Quinn. And that's where we get to Spurs restricted free agent Jonathon Simmons.

The Knicks have been in touch with Simmons but would probably need to trade Lee or O'Quinn to make a competitive offer for Simmons, one of the top young two-way players on the market. Earlier this week, Simmons was in active talks with two other teams. The Knicks probably need to make a move soon if they have serious interest in Simmons. Their recent contact with him would suggest they're at least open to that.

http://www.espn.com/blog/new-york-k...jon-rondo-as-potential-frank-ntilikina-mentor
 



NBA free agency: League's small-market problem is much more perception than reality
  • Sean Deveney @seandeveney[/paste:font]
    Updated at 9:15 a.m. ET

    We’ve now seen, for the second straight year, a well-run, small-market team in the NBA devastated by the loss of a star player it drafted, groomed and boosted through his youth. Last year, it was Kevin Durant leaving Oklahoma City. Now, it’s Gordon Hayward leaving Utah.

    But the perception that the NBA has not been able to conquer its issue with stars ditching small markets is just that: perception. The reality is much different, especially with the changes in the NBA’s free-agent system that came into effect after the 2011 lockout.

    To show just what we mean here, we offer a list of the players who have, since the ratification of the collective-bargaining agreement in 2011 (which was reconfigured with a new CBA last year), signed as free agents with a new team, one that did not hold their rights at the end of the previous season. We’ve tagged each NBA city with its market-size number, as measured by Nielsen’s TV ratings.

    The chart below shows player movement among major free agents, and below that, the four things that fans so often get wrong about markets and NBA free agency, the things fans in places like Utah and OKC are still getting wrong:

    Player Year Old team (market rank) New team (market rank)
    Tyson Chandler 2011 Dallas (5) New York (1)
    David West 2011 New Orleans (53) Indiana (25)
    Steve Nash 2012 Phoenix (12) Los Angeles (2)
    Dwight Howard 2013 Los Angeles (2) Houston (10)
    Andre Iguodala 2013 Denver (18) Bay Area (6)
    Tyreke Evans 2013 Sacramento (20) New Orleans (53)
    Paul Millsap 2013 Utah (33) Atlanta (8)
    LeBron James 2014 Miami (16) Cleveland (17)
    Chandler Parsons 2014 Houston (10) Dallas (5)
    LaMarcus Aldridge 2015 Portland (22) San Antonio (37)
    Kevin Durant 2016 Oklahoma City (45) Bay Area (6)
    Al Horford 2016 Atlanta (8) Boston (7)
    Dwyane Wade 2016 Miami (16) Chicago (3)
    Dwight Howard 2016 Houston (10) Atlanta (8)
    Harrison Barnes 2016 Bay Area (6) Dallas (5)
    J.J. Redick 2017 Los Angeles (2) Philadelphia (4)
    Gordon Hayward 2017 Utah (33) Boston (7)
    Paul Millsap 2017 Atlanta (8) Denver (18)
    Danilo Gallinari 2017 Denver (18) Los Angeles (2)
    George Hill 2017 Utah (33) Sacramento (20)
    Jeff Teague 2017 Indiana (25) Minnesota (15)
    OK, now here's what is so often misunderstood about NBA free agency, especially as it relates to market size and the changes that have taken place in league rules since 2011.

    1. The overwhelming majority of major free agents do not change teams.

    Defining a “major” free agent is a subjective exercise, but there have been in the range of 66 such signings since the 2011 CBA went into effect. That ranges from, say, Marc Gasol re-signing with the Grizzlies in 2011, through Kevin Garnett staying with the Celtics in 2012, to point guards Mike Conley, Jrue Holiday and Kyle Lowry signing mega-deals to stay put in the last two summers.

    Of those 66, just 21 (listed in the chart above) left their incumbent teams to sign elsewhere, which means more than two-thirds of major free agents stay with their teams.

    2. Market size rarely has anything to do with free-agent departures.

    Of the 21 departing major free agents, six actually left a bigger market to sign with a smaller market (Dwight Howard and Tyreke Evans in 2013; LeBron James in 2014; LaMarcus Aldridge in 2015; J.J. Redick and Paul Millsap in 2017). And most moves have been either from a medium market to another medium market, or from a big market to another big market.

    There are only seven examples since 2011 of players leaving markets outside the top 10 in the country to join a team in the top 10: Steve Nash going from Phoenix to LA in 2012; Andre Iguodala going from Denver to Golden State in 2013; Paul Millsap going from Utah to Atlanta in 2013; Kevin Durant going from Oklahoma City to Golden State in 2016; Dwyane Wade going from Miami to Chicago in 2016; Hayward going from Utah to Boston; and Danilo Gallinari going from Denver to LA this summer).


    In most of these cases, market size did not play much of a role. The Suns had all but pushed Nash to move on when he went to the Lakers. The Nuggets were not looking to keep Iguodala, nor were the Jazz looking to lock up Millsap. The Wade-Heat-Bulls thing was the result of a quickly escalating feud between Wade and Miami, and Wade simply chose to sign with his hometown team.

    The departures of Durant and Hayward stung their home bases, no doubt. But there really are no other examples, under the current/2011 CBAs, of small-market stars jilting their incumbent teams to go to a bigger market, not when the incumbent team is actively trying to keep the player.

    3. This is all about the TV deal.

    This is pretty obvious to those with basic knowledge of the NBA salary cap. Of the 21 major free agents who have signed elsewhere since the lockout, 11 have come in the past two years, as opposed to 10 in the previous five years.

    That does not reflect a flaw in the NBA’s system — it’s a direct result of the surge in cap space teams received from the surprisingly large television deal the league was able to secure. That’s allowed cap space to crop up where it never would have cropped up before.

    Before lambasting the league for allowing this player movement, bear in mind, commissioner Adam Silver tried to head off this problem by introducing the notion of “smoothing” to the NBA’s economics. That would have spread the rise in cap space over a number of years, rather than letting it all spike last summer and this summer.

    The union would not go along with smoothing — it really had no incentive to help owners protect cap space — so the idea was dropped. But if smoothing had been OK’d, Durant would not be in Golden State. He might have left OKC, but the Warriors would not have had the space to sign him. The Celtics still might have lured away Hayward, but they would have had to give up more players to create the space to get the deal done.

    4. The jump in player movement will end, and end quickly.

    Reality will click back into the NBA next season, when the spending of the last two years will harden on the payroll sheets and teams will be looking at rosters that are locked into over-the-cap totals for the foreseeable future. There will be transactions to come, of course, but as things stand, only about 10 teams are projected to be under the salary cap next season.

    A handful of teams (the Blazers, Cavaliers, Warriors and Raptors, plus the Wizards when they match Otto Porter’s contract) will plow through the rest of the summer already worrying about next year’s luxury tax bill, and others figure to join that list.

    That means we could see the return to prominence of some old NBA staples that have slid from view recently — the importance of the mid-level exception, for example, which once dominated the aspirations of above-average players, and the cap-space trade, in which expiring contracts were heavily coveted for the immediate relief they could provide.
    Those are throwbacks to a more restrictive time in NBA salary-cap history, and league rules that came with the last two collective bargaining agreements were actually supposed to make things even more restrictive than before. The luxury tax is tougher, there is not the same payroll advantage to sign-and-trades and there are more incentives for big-time stars to stay with their teams.

    Those system advances were obscured by the drunken-sailor spending that the league saw over the past two years. There may be a perception that star players have taken advantage of that to slip away to bigger markets, but a closer look shows that reality is much different. The perception and reality will realign themselves, starting next year.





 
Sources: Knicks in touch with Rajon Rondo for Frank Ntilikina mentor role
The Knicks are interested in Rajon Rondo as a veteran mentor to rookie Frank Ntilikina. Mike DiNovo/USA TODAY Sports
8:57 AM ET



People in touch with the New York Knicks this week came away with the impression that the team has two distinct short-term goals: to find a suitable trade for Carmelo Anthony and to find a veteran point guard to help mentor rookie Frank Ntilikina.

Members of the organization remain hopeful they can find a trade for Anthony that makes sense for all parties (Anthony, who has a no-trade clause, has made it known that he'd waive it for a trade to Houston or Cleveland, according to ESPN's Adrian Wojnarowski).

So what about the point guard spot?

The Knicks have touched base with free agents Derrick Rose, Rajon Rondo and Shelvin Mack. They were also in contact with George Hill and Darren Collison, but both guards signed elsewhere.

Rose has met with the Clippers and Bucks, Wojnarowski reported, and he has some supporters in the Knicks organization. But there is far from a consensus on bringing Rose back. The interest in bringing Rose back on a team-friendly contract was "legitimate" before Phil Jackson was fired, according to sources.

What about Rondo? It would seem that Rondo is a strong free-agent option for New York because he could teach Ntilikina the importance and art of sharing the ball at the NBA level. But several people in touch with the Knicks earlier in the week got the impression that not everyone in the organization was high on Rondo.

Mack, 27, is a six-year veteran and a great locker-room presence. But he averaged eight points and three assists in 23 minutes per game last season and is viewed as a fallback option as a starter by some in the organization, according to sources.



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The Knicks, among other teams, were also contacted by the Boston Celtics about a potential Marcus Smart trade earlier this week, sources said. The Knicks' interest in Smart is unclear at this point, but you can assume the Celtics would want someone like Willy Hernangomez and/or a pick back in a trade. If so, that would be a steep price for a rebuilding team such as the Knicks to pay.

The Knicks, who have about $15 million in cap space if they rescind the rights to Rose, also showed interest in Dion Waiters. But Waiters decided to re-sign with the Miami Heat on Wednesday. According to Wojnarowski, Waiters agreed to a deal with the Heat worth $13 million annually. That kind of offer would have taken up most of the Knicks' cap space -- unless they would've cleared some room via trade.



That's an option members of the organization have explored during free agency, according to sources.

The obvious candidates for trades are Courtney Lee and Kyle O'Quinn. And that's where we get to Spurs restricted free agent Jonathon Simmons.

The Knicks have been in touch with Simmons but would probably need to trade Lee or O'Quinn to make a competitive offer for Simmons, one of the top young two-way players on the market. Earlier this week, Simmons was in active talks with two other teams. The Knicks probably need to make a move soon if they have serious interest in Simmons. Their recent contact with him would suggest they're at least open to that.

http://www.espn.com/blog/new-york-k...jon-rondo-as-potential-frank-ntilikina-mentor


Damn.......Rondo got his ring and made his money but man he could've made far more than he did.......all he had to do was pretend to be a team guy.
 
Leave it up to Boston to do this
Go after someone get him and now don't know how they gonna make room to even sign him


Man they have to move 2 key players for then... This shit is a shame, don't know if that brings them closer to the Cavs or put distance the gap with the Wizards
 
Leave it up to Boston to do this
Go after someone get him and now don't know how they gonna make room to even sign him
Racists ass Team. Could have had PG or Butler for less than its going to cost them to keep Hayward and gut that team but they had to have a white face as the face of the franchise.

Watch how much his face is plastered on all things Boston next season.... :hmm:
 
What sense this makes



That's called "Man look....we didnt' do shit this offseason.....but we sure as hell spent some money so we about to re-introduce these dudes like they never played for us..."....Raptors playing the fuck out of their fanbase for fools.
 
Racists ass Team. Could have had PG or Butler for less than its going to cost them to keep Hayward and gut that team but they had to have a white face as the face of the franchise.

Watch how much his face is plastered on all things Boston next season.... :hmm:


Naw man they were going to trade their whole team for Butler who at the time said "I want turn the Bulls around..." and Paul George who said he's going to LA.....i'm not trading all my assets for either one of them dudes.

Pacers stopped Ainge from making the biggest mistake of his career. He should thank them.
 


Don't put Harrison in that shit. He at least playing....Chandler Parsons 23 million a year to wear a suit and rehab them fucked up ass knees he got. :lol:

Someone better hop on Crowder....he's limited offensively but he's developing that consistent 3 point shot.....he's gonna hustle and D it up.....and from the look of that contract.....he's still hungry to get him one of these max deals.....

Only problem is......with everyone making big money.....how can you even trade for his contract? You got scrubs making his money and you got scrubs making 20 million a year.
 
Racists ass Team. Could have had PG or Butler for less than its going to cost them to keep Hayward and gut that team but they had to have a white face as the face of the franchise.

Watch how much his face is plastered on all things Boston next season.... :hmm:

didn't even have a plan
i wouldn't offer them anything for bradley or nothing just scraps cause they can't keep them
 
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