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I tried to wire some money to gatehub, my bank couldn't find the bank that gatehub is using to in order to do the wire. They are using some bank in slovenia. Kraken is also giving me problems adding new bank acct to their systems, so I can't even use them at the moment.

I had to have Chase authorize the wire after the first one then they put them on the "ok" list I have had no further interruptions. The issue may be that the company is in London but the bank is in Slovenia. So they think it may be a fraud attempt, sorry but you may have to go to the branch to tell them.
 
Update on Polo (trying to move my coins): After over 12 hours I gave up and contacted someone on the chat. He said if I hit cancel they would return to polo. They did, and now Sia coin is locked again by polo. I am going to try again when unlocked but if worse comes to worse keep them there till they blow then trade for BTC.
 
I had to have Chase authorize the wire after the first one then they put them on the "ok" list I have had no further interruptions. The issue may be that the company is in London but the bank is in Slovenia. So they think it may be a fraud attempt, sorry but you may have to go to the branch to tell them.

Why do a wire. The fees are crazy, just find a coin source atm around your way. Buy your Bitcoin with your wallet address
 
Coins to watch: Reddcoin, Digibyte, Bytecoin, Dogecoin, Siacoin,

Coins to make sure you have: ripple, etherum, bitcoin - might be a good idea to keep chipping away till you own one bitcoin, I do and it keeps going up but I keep pinchin from it to fund the other coins listed above.
Siacoin might become extinct once filecoin comes
 
I bought in and I'm hoping for the best. If you don't feel comfortable, you can buy game credit. It has a low supply, has been rising up, linked to mobile go and not many people are talking about it.

where did you get mobilego @ ...?
 
sorry if this was already discussed and i missed it, but i want to have a fully diversified portfolio. has anyone participated in any ICO's or crowdsales? this one looks promising, i think i might dive in. let me know if you have any input, thanks.
https://mobilego.io/frequently-asked-questions/



spectrum has mentioned it a couple times...I'm def interested...I just need to know where to get the tokens
 
Just so i'm clear, the options for purchasing XRP with Credit card is Kraken(Direct), BitStamp(Direct) or Coinbase-->Exchange. Correct?
I'm asking because so far i'm signed up with Poloniex,Bitstamp,Kraken,and Bittrex.Should I reduce it to Coinbase(to use Credit Card),Bittrex(Variety of coins) and Gatehub(cheap rates)?
 
Y'all do know that if you break the nano you can restore it on a new device with a key that make you write down on paper right?
Yea I know I was just trying to avoid all that drama

Its pretty nice. Seems like a more premium product then the nano in my opinion, but that Ledger Blue looks sick. Only thing is Ledger now allows you to store XRP and Keepkey doesn't. I'm hoping that XRP storage is around the corner for KK cause these companies usually stay real competitive.

Yea thats what Im hearing it sounds like a nice little device, hope they get XRP soon. Only complaints Ive heard were once you plug it in the screens are kinda basic
 
so do you make a donation for an undisclosed amount?

sorry to ask so many questions

no need to apologize. yes, it is an undisclosed amount based on how much in donations they receive against the total number of tokens avaialable. i am going to include a next link to check out, i found it helpful...



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no need to apologize. yes, it is an undisclosed amount based on how much in donations they receive against the total number of tokens avaialable. i am going to include a next link to check out, i found it helpful...



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thanks bruh!

ya I was curious about them when spectrum posted a link to upcoming ICOs
 
Just so i'm clear, the options for purchasing XRP with Credit card is Kraken(Direct), BitStamp(Direct) or Coinbase-->Exchange. Correct?
I'm asking because so far i'm signed up with Poloniex,Bitstamp,Kraken,and Bittrex.Should I reduce it to Coinbase(to use Credit Card),Bittrex(Variety of coins) and Gatehub(cheap rates)?


Yes that my setup too.

Im trying to get everything off Polo and use Bittrex and Bitstamp:

This is my setup goal

Buy Bitcoins from : CoinBase- Bank Transfer (5-7 business days) a lot of people have issues with credit cards on coinbase.com or Coinmama.com with credit card. Bitstamp also allows credit cards but the fees are higher like 7 to 10 percent.....i try to keep my fees low.

Exchanges: Bittrex.com (for all coins) and Bitstamp.com (Bitcoin and Ripple)

Cash out: Coinbase.com will be for cash out since they have the paypal.com option. You can also cashout at bitstamp.net might take longer with the bank transfer option though.

The Final setup: Coinbase-Bitcoins in-Bittrex Bitcoins invested-Coinbase-Bitcoins out.....Cash out!!
 
Got a buddy that's been deep in this crypto/block chain game since day one - told me to look out fo the ICOs of Mysterium (MYST) on May 30 and Basic Attention (BAT) on May 31

MYST:
https://mysterium.network/
https://news.bitcoin.com/mysterium-releases-whitepaper-showcasing-ethereum-based-decentralised-vpn/

BAT:
https://basicattentiontoken.org/
http://www.coindesk.com/web-browser-brave-to-launch-ico-for-ethereum-ad-token/

As always, do your research and invest smart.
MYST looks promising. I can see the technology being used for the Darkweb, which will cause the price per coin to skyrocket!
 
Digibyte and Siacoin........have good volume and move up and down together.... Also i like the tech behind those two.

Im avoiding DogeCoin and Bytecoin........Seem more like pump and dump.....but dogecoin has good volume but crazy supply cant see it going up much.

Also put some coins in reddcoin......potential but not as developed as digibyte coin.
 
https://news.bitcoin.com/specifically-eu-us-intend-tax-bitcoin/

How Specifically The EU & US Intend To Tax Your Bitcoin

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February 24, 2017
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For the EU and US, the Wild West days of bitcoin are over. 2017 will be the year of bitcoin regulation and taxation during which individuals need information and caution.

Also Read: Fedcoin: The U.S. Will Issue E-Currency That You Will Use

The bad news: Central bankers want private, centralized blockchains to facilitate all movement of wealth so they can skim the top. Complicit governments intend to regulate competitors, including individual wallet holders, and then collect a ‘fee’ in the form of taxes.

The good news: Bitcoin cannot be regulated without disabling the internet or the bitcoin network, which is arguably the largest and most diverse network in the world. “If you want to kill Bitcoin, it will be an impossible task,” the Former Governor of the Bank of China LH Li recently stated.

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More bad news: Central banks and governments will try. LH Li added, “So it [bitcoin] will continue to exist. What is important now is that we should properly regulate it.”

To avoid becoming collateral damage, individuals should plan now.

Of course, the real threat to most readers is not China but the EU or the US, both of which are signaling specific plans to regulate and eventually tax cryptocurrencies.

EU’s Coming War on Bitcoin
From January 16 to 18, an international conference of some 400 representatives of intelligence units met in Doha, Qatar to discuss the ‘problem’ of money laundering (tax evasion) through digital currencies. The conference sprang from an alliance between the Basil Institute, Europol and Interpol. Bitcoin was mentioned by name; “Special attention should be given to the international exchange of suspicious Bitcoin addresses that threaten economic stability.” Economic stability is bureaucratese for economic control.

Six recommendations for action resulted. In summary:

  • Increase information sharing;
  • Increase training for investigators, regulators, prosecutors and judges. Establish international standards by which to share information;
  • Prepare national guidelines for “all entities operating” in cryptocurrency with special attention on “transparency and on access to information”;
  • Regulate Digital Currencies Exchanges and Wallet Providers under current money laundering and terrorism legislation;
  • Act against “Mixers/Tumblers” which “are designed exclusively to anonymize transactions….[Their] existence…should not…be tolerated”;
  • Consider creating the crime of “unexplained wealth.”
Exchanges and wallet providers are targeted because they are low-hanging fruit. They are far easier to detect and regulate than individuals, which is why individual wallets are the most private alternative. Conventional merchants who accept bitcoin are almost certainly next, and for the same reason as exchanges.

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Some impending measures are obvious.

EU nations will accelerate information sharing, especially of blacklisted bitcoin addresses. EU members that were formerly friendly to bitcoin, such as the Netherlands, may turn hostile.

Anti-money laundering regulations and “Know Your Customer” policies will be imposed on exchanges and wallet Providers. For those who value privacy, this is a fine time to consider relocating from exchanges that will function as an arm of the state to exchanges that will put their customers first.

Know Your Bank. Know Your Government. Know Your Exchange.

The use of mixers and tumblers will be de facto evidence of illegal activity. The EU wants to track ‘suspicious’ transactions in real time and it will “not tolerate” being denied. Again, those who value privacy should consider exchanges that are not within unfriendly resident nations.

The crime of “unexplained wealth” is becoming globally popular, with Australia and the UK actively proposing legislation. Turning “unexplained wealth” into a criminal offense gives the tax people a blank check to sift through the worth of everything you own, of every cent you receive. You are guilty until or unless you can demonstrate innocence to the tax man’s satisfaction. If your assets appear disproportionately high compared to your income, then be prepared to document the sources. Of course, it is possible to live within your visible means and carefully document it.

US’s Coming War on Bitcoin
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Coinbase, a popular American cryptocurrency service provider, is a cautionary tale on several levels.

In March 2014, the IRS issued its “Virtual Currency Guidance” on the tax requirements for cryptocurrencies. The guide created confusion more than it clarified. Lacking an enforcement mechanism and, perhaps, tripping over its own tangled requirements, the IRS sought a nuclear solution.

In November 2016, the IRS served Coinbase with a John Doe Summons for the transaction records of all users between January 1, 2013 and December 31, 2015. A “John Doe” summons does not identify a person but aims at a group or class of people. Because one Coinbase user might be guilty of a crime, all records were to be examined.

Many people asked “Why Coinbase?”

Coinbase has a reputation for being hyper-compliant with regulations and government demands. Coinbase’s co-founder Brian Armstrong stated, “At Coinbase, our first priority is to ensure that we operate the most secure and compliant digital currency exchange in the world.” Surely this is the last exchange with which the IRS needs to use brute force.

But it makes sense that Coinbase would be the first exchange approached; the IRS wants to set a chilling example to others. It may have assumed Coinbase would cave to its demands and an important precedent would be easily established. Coinbase reportedly dug in its heels with Armstrong announcing, “We will likely incur a legal cost of between $100,000 and $1,000,000 in the process of defending our customers from this overly broad subpoena.” The cryptocurrency community applauded.

There is a phenomenon known as “demonstrated preference,” however. In short, when a person’s words contradict his actions, you should believe the actions. Coinbase’s recent actions and surrounding events raise the possibility that Armstrong’s announcement was either PR or a position from which he has backed down.

Consider:

  • A January 17, 2017 headline in Fortune read “New York Warms Up to This Bitcoin Exchange With New License.” It is unlikely that New York State, which is notoriously tough on license applications, would favor an IRS non-compliant Exchange.
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    A February 3 headline in Forbes read “IRS Gets Court Approval To Delay Hearing On Access To Coinbase Accounts.” The IRS told the court, “if more time is provided a hearing on movants’ motions may be avoided altogether, sparing the Court’s judicial resources and the Parties’ time and expense.” This hints at a private settlement.
  • A February 9 headline in Forbes read “Blockchain Tech CEO [Perry Woodin, CEO of Node40] Says Tax Form 1099-B Won’t Work For All Virtual Currency.” The article discussed Armstrong’s recommendations on how Coinbase could more “reasonably” comply with tax demands. This hints at compromise.
  • A February 17 headline in CoinTelegraph read “’Police Friendly’ Coinbase Used to Sell Bitcoin Seized in Investigations.” The article described how one police department’s asset forfeiture account was linked to Coinbase. The exchange is cozy with state actions, including asset forfeiture theft.
  • A February 18 headline in NEWSBTC read “eGifter Now Only Accepts Bitcoin Payments From Coinbase Wallet Owners.” The article states, “Using Coinbase of all exchanges may seem a bit strange, though. The company is facing an IRS John Doe summons….While people who use eGifter have been nothing to hide per se, it is perhaps not the best exchange to use for bitcoin payments.” Of course, Coinbase could use a “separate and secure wallet service” for those payments but it could also be out from under the IRS.
None of the preceding is a smoking gun. Taken together, however, they suggest a pattern: whatever Coinbase states publicly, it seems to continue a course of hyper-compliance. If so, the IRS will undoubtedly pursue other exchanges in the same manner. If so, bitcoiners should use Coinbase and affiliated agencies with full knowledge.

Conclusion

A poster on Steemit captured the governmental zeitgeist toward bitcoin when he wrote, “The old axiom goes, if you can’t beat them, join them. But for the establishment cartels that seek to rule the world through control over the global monetary system, their addendum to this is, if you can’t beat them, usurp them.”

The EU and US cannot beat bitcoin in a fair fight. They cannot beat bitcoin in a rigged fight. But they are going to try. One way or the other, users should get out of the path of damage.
 
What's the best coin to mine?

I was considering mining BURST, but I would need to buy several refurb hard drives to see some decent return and I wouldn't make a profit for at least 3 months.

There's gotta be a better way to get into the mining game.
 
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