Nike, Adidas, UA pass on Lonzo Ball after LaVar insists on licensing his own brand

[Ninja05]

for how much? and is he co-branding?

No idea on the money Turner is making. And no, from my understanding he got a signature shoe line and his own apparel product line. Now it's not co-branding but it's not that far from it. And Ball is a bigger known player coming into the draft.

Look. It appears some folks are getting stirred up about Ball and his father. I'm not the biggest fan of Ball (I think Fultz and even Smith Jr are going to be better) but now folks are acting like Ball is going to kill his career cause he is not going to the draft combine. Ben Simmons, Anthony Bennett, Andrew Wiggins, and more all skipped the NBA combine. Doing it did not impact their draft positioning. It isn't a red flag, however, if he refuses to work out for NBA teams in the top 5 that's another story lol

 

[BDR]

Damn. That shit would be crazy. Get blackballed by the shoe companies and the league.

Instead of telling his pops stfu he sitting there going along with that nigga smh.. just cost the kid 5-10 mill check on a shoe deal now about to get potentially blackballed out of the league smh

Gonna force him to play in China somewhere

 

[yureeka9]

Classic!! Sometime in life, its okay to shut the fuck up and wait!!

Exactly.

 

[lazarus]

No idea on the money Turner is making. And no, from my understanding he got a signature shoe line and his own apparel product line. Now it's not co-branding but it's not that far from it. And Ball is a bigger known player coming into the draft.

Look. It appears some folks are getting stirred up about Ball and his father. I'm not the biggest fan of Ball (I think Fultz and even Smith Jr are going to be better) but now folks are acting like Ball is going to kill his career cause he is not going to the draft combine. Ben Simmons, Anthony Bennett, Andrew Wiggins, and more all skipped the NBA combine. Doing it did not impact their draft positioning. It isn't a red flag, however, if he refuses to work out for NBA teams in the top 5 that's another story lol

can you stay on topic? Is Turner making a billion now? Otherwise, yeah Ball can make cute money too with the Chinese. That's nowhere near Ball's big picture. And if his son is a bust, he won't see much more. He's getting ahead of himself.

 

[BDR]

This isn't about the Ball family. It's about all the players after them waking up and realizing their worth. It was blow back when players wanted to unionize, go pro out of high school, free agency, etc.

This whole business of athletics collapses once these athletes wake up. Jordan planted the seed. LeBron flourished the plant. Now full ownership is next. And these CACs know it and will collude on every level to stop it.

Bruh that is true however you gotta start on the ground floor and work your way to take over.. but letting cacs know your moves before your in a position to execute it is a fail..

Besides Lonzo hasn't done shit for sneakers companies to offer a co branding deal..

 

[Better]

Bruh that is true however you gotta start on the ground floor and work your way to take over.. but letting cacs know your moves before your in a position to execute it is a fail..

Besides Lonzo hasn't done shit for sneakers companies to offer a co branding deal..

I don't know why this is so hard to grasp.

Nike, Adidas, none of those majors became what they are now overnight.

 

[sammyjax]

I don't know why this is so hard to grasp.

Nike, Adidas, none of those majors became what they are now overnight.

Because niggas is dumb and you can't tell how dumb online until you get about 15 dumb ass posts into exchanges w they dumb asses

 

[sherminator]

Blah, blah, blah.

Just say I dont got no stock in they company. Bet you got some Nike's in your closet tho. Niggas.

Centipede you back at it,

I will humor you, I don't own any stock, I find it a shakey investment at best, but at no point did I say I was a nike addidas or under armor guy, you placed that on me with a bold assumption, I also spoke how he could work his way into ownership not represent himself as an uneducated idiot, and blow any prospective money, how he's married to a white woman, but you want to attach freedom from masa as his agenda

No dumb niggas that buy sneakers over stock for a company they write dissertations for and live some bullshit Phil Knight fantasy are ignant as hell. If yall love Nike so much, invest. But let me guess? "Investing isn't easy, its hard, but you niggas better give your vote to the democrats! You owe them" right?

Everyone does not desire to own stock, and owning a stock doesn't equate some upper hand, stop it, you king deflect

 

[Pworld297]

Nigga act like his son is a LeBron type phenom. He not even close to that type of player. If he was then I would understand what he is trying to do.

 

[TheyCallMeBe]

You don't have to drop insults just because someone doesn't agree with you.

To go off on your point, everything around us was built by people who didn't receive the "desirable outcome" but kept trying. It's the backbone of innovation.

I don't know the full details of his plan (or even if he has one) but if you read my comment, I said that this isn't about him. Historically, anytime people of color have fucked with the natural order of the industries that make BIG money, there was some type of retribution to said actions. That's it.

wow. You're pretty far out there buddy. Lol
Outcomes.

If what you're doing isn't getting you the desired OUTCOME, you're doing the wrong shit.

It's no more complicated than that.

This fucking mental patient taking about democrats and nike stock, other niggas talking bout niggas scared to have their own, when the whole point is: is this nutbird niggas tactics achieving the optimal, desired outcome?

You crux missing ass muhfuckas.

You're 100% right. But, I believe, if Michael Porter's dad steps to teams more tactfully next season, while negotiating under the same premise, teams will still balk at the proposal. Nike was built on Jordan's back and he doesn't even own the brand outright. It's something wrong with that. That's why I respect Patrick Ewing for owning his own brand. He's making good money off of his retros. Ownership is everything. Especially since the barriers of entry to get suppliers overseas are WAY lower than they were years prior.

Bruh that is true however you gotta start on the ground floor and work your way to take over.. but letting cacs know your moves before your in a position to execute it is a fail..

Besides Lonzo hasn't done shit for sneakers companies to offer a co branding deal..

 

[clyde]

If he starts the season hot. They will all be killing themselves to get him a deal. This was just collusion to shut the father up.

 

[Better]

Nigga act like his son is a LeBron type phenom. He not even close to that type of player. If he was then I would understand what he is trying to do.

When you think about it, while there have been a no. of A-1 legends, most didn't come out of college or HS super-hyped. Only Lebron or Shaq could've demanded that. Shaq hype was pretty crazy, too. Lebron shit did go next level ...

...but it would've been interesting to see a prospect like Lebron demand that type of deal. I mean, they did give son 10 mil signing bonus and 90 mil, and he hadn't even played an NBA game.

 

[BDR]

You don't have to drop insults just because someone doesn't agree with you.

To go off on your point, everything around us was built by people who didn't receive the "desirable outcome" but kept trying. It's the backbone of innovation.

I don't know the full details of his plan (or even if he has one) but if you read my comment, I said that this isn't about him. Historically, anytime people of color have fucked with the natural order of the industries that make BIG money, there was some type of retribution to said actions. That's it.





You're 100% right. But, I believe, if Michael Porter's dad steps to teams more tactfully next season, while negotiating under the same premise, teams will still balk at the proposal. Nike was built on Jordan's back and he doesn't even own the brand outright. It's something wrong with that. That's why I respect Patrick Ewing for owning his own brand. He's making good money off of his retros. Ownership is everything. Especially since the barriers of entry to get suppliers overseas are WAY lower than they were years prior.

I think Nike gave Mike the Jordan brand some years ago.. mike finally own it or it's def a co branding deal..

Hell Nike signed Bron to a 100 mill contract right out of high school before he even set foot in the league now look 14 years later Nike re-up on Bron's deal to a life time contract..

Can't be coming in demanding shit and you don't have a resume to back it up

 

[Better]

I think Nike gave Mike the Jordan brand some years ago.. mike finally own it or it's def a co branding deal..

Hell Nike signed Bron to a 100 mill contract right out of high school before he even set foot in the league now look 14 years later Nike re-up on Bron's deal to a life time contract..

Can't be coming in demanding shit and you don't have a resume to back it up

I vividly recall it was revealed he only gets a percentage of Jordan Brand sales. A single-digit percentage, too.

 

[Pworld297]

When you think about it, while there have been a no. of A-1 legends, most didn't come out of college or HS super-hyped. Only Lebron or Shaq could've demanded that. Shaq hype was pretty crazy, too. Lebron shit did go next level ...

...but it would've been interesting to see a prospect like Lebron demand that type of deal. I mean, they did give son 10 mil signing bonus and 90 mil, and he hadn't even played an NBA game.

LeBron probably would have gotten a deal like that, remember him on that SI Cover at 16 years old. Hell KG probably could have to, there was major hype when he came out also.

 

[Better]

LeBron probably would have gotten a deal like that, remember him on that SI Cover at 16 years old. Hell KG probably could have to, there was major hype when he came out also.

KG had hype ..

...Shaq had more ...

...Lebron was unprecedented.

 

[IT IS WHAT IT IS]

This isn't about the Ball family. It's about all the players after them waking up and realizing their worth. It was blow back when players wanted to unionize, go pro out of high school, free agency, etc.

This whole business of athletics collapses once these athletes wake up. Jordan planted the seed. LeBron flourished the plant. Now full ownership is next. And these CACs know it and will collude on every level to stop it.

While I totally agree with this statement theoretically, what worth does Lonzo have right now? He's done NOTHING on the pro level, NOTHING that guarantees he will be marketable and NOTHING to show he will be a star in this league. Hes a great player on the amateur level, but choked on the biggest stage of that level.

LeBron, we should NEVER use his situation in this equation because there has NEVER been a player who was such a sure bet, had such a presence and was so clearly the best player not only in HS but the College level when he was a senior.

I don't have a problem with players getting their 'worth'... Jordan, got his AFTER he had proven on the pro level what he was worth...

What this Dude is trying to do is not a lesson or a wake up call for HS or College athletes on a level that makes it a positive, its more of a lesson of what not to do. Now, this kid is going to have to perform at an out of this world level to even balance shit out because of his father shenanigans and its unfortunate because hes done what he was supposed to do to create an opportunity for himself, now he has to wade fhrough his fathers layer of bullshit too

 

[IT IS WHAT IT IS]

LeBron probably would have gotten a deal like that, remember him on that SI Cover at 16 years old. Hell KG probably could have to, there was major hype when he came out also.

There is absolutely no comparison between this kid an LeBron... This kid isn't even considered the best player in the draft, LeBron was already considered better than anyone and a few pros entering into his Senior year of HS...

 

[IT IS WHAT IT IS]

wow. You're pretty far out there buddy. Lol



Outcomes.

If what you're doing isn't getting you the desired OUTCOME, you're doing the wrong shit.

It's no more complicated than that.

This fucking mental patient taking about democrats and nike stock, other niggas talking bout niggas scared to have their own, when the whole point is: is this nutbird niggas tactics achieving the optimal, desired outcome?

You crux missing ass muhfuckas.

Bruh... again, can someone explain to me what purpose any of these major shoe companies entering into a partnership agreement with these motherfucker? So, I enter into that type of an arrangement, and Lonzo and the rest of his brothers are busts, now I'm stuck with lost bread... Kid hasnt proven shit yet, and this fool is trying to market him and his brothers based on a lot of BallisLife highlight youtube clips!?!?!?! FOH, which is what they basically told him!

 

[IT IS WHAT IT IS]

Well, those 3 trains have left the station... Whos he stuck with now reebok, converse, sum no name brand??

These motherfuckers

 

[KingTaharqa]

 

[tpotda]

Ewing isn't the 1 behind the retros that started in recent years, rights of the brand been sold to David Goldberg a jewish dude thats making money from the Ewing retros, he's now the owner of Ewing Athletics

You don't have to drop insults just because someone doesn't agree with you.

To go off on your point, everything around us was built by people who didn't receive the "desirable outcome" but kept trying. It's the backbone of innovation.

I don't know the full details of his plan (or even if he has one) but if you read my comment, I said that this isn't about him. Historically, anytime people of color have fucked with the natural order of the industries that make BIG money, there was some type of retribution to said actions. That's it.





You're 100% right. But, I believe, if Michael Porter's dad steps to teams more tactfully next season, while negotiating under the same premise, teams will still balk at the proposal. Nike was built on Jordan's back and he doesn't even own the brand outright. It's something wrong with that. That's why I respect Patrick Ewing for owning his own brand. He's making good money off of his retros. Ownership is everything. Especially since the barriers of entry to get suppliers overseas are WAY lower than they were years prior.

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

Nba combine is not the nfl combine
It don't mean shit

 

[sammyjax]

You corny as fuck b

Tryna use Quaid because you need more people you oughtta get a 3 day ban for that bullshit.

 

[MrBee]

Maybe, maybe not. But he's not letting those companies feast without saying grace.

Well said my brother...

 

[TheyCallMeBe]

Ewing isn't the 1 behind the retros that started in recent years, rights of the brand been sold to David Goldberg a jewish dude thats making money from the Ewing retros, he's now the owner of Ewing Athletics

Respect. Thanks for the clarification

 

[IT IS WHAT IT IS]

You don't have to drop insults just because someone doesn't agree with you.

Damn Bruh... He had you all in your feelings and shit

 

[TheyCallMeBe]

Damn Bruh... He had you all in your feelings and shit

Lol nah I'm good. Cats on here get so angry just because somebody has a different perspective.

 

[Day_Carver]

You don't have to drop insults just because someone doesn't agree with you.

To go off on your point, everything around us was built by people who didn't receive the "desirable outcome" but kept trying. It's the backbone of innovation.

I don't know the full details of his plan (or even if he has one) but if you read my comment, I said that this isn't about him. Historically, anytime people of color have fucked with the natural order of the industries that make BIG money, there was some type of retribution to said actions. That's it.





You're 100% right. But, I believe, if Michael Porter's dad steps to teams more tactfully next season, while negotiating under the same premise, teams will still balk at the proposal. Nike was built on Jordan's back and he doesn't even own the brand outright. It's something wrong with that. That's why I respect Patrick Ewing for owning his own brand. He's making good money off of his retros. Ownership is everything. Especially since the barriers of entry to get suppliers overseas are WAY lower than they were years prior.

Interesting...i appreciate the thoughts fam..question seeing how both turned out who do you think is in a better position and why?

 

[IT IS WHAT IT IS]

Interesting...i appreciate the thoughts fam..question seeing how both turned out who do you think is in a better position and why?

 

[Day_Carver]

I'm just curious as to what the bro is thinking..i mean i hear this ownership thing being pushed alot; like jayz or mj don't own shit etc etc so I'm just curious

 

[crossovernegro]

But with relatively cheap hardware and software, you can make some decent music in your basement and distribute it yourself... for sneakers, he still needs someone to manufacture and market etc, right? If they want to really change the game, they should make that money first and then go vertical with their own sneaker....design, manufacture, distribute... Otherwise, aren't they still needing white folk's infrastructure and money?

All I know is that the music industry has changed, why not the sneaker deals. If they are legit, it'll work, if not, down in flames, he better call dame about those pro-keds... Lol

 

[Coldchi]

Lmaooo Lonzo Ball skipping out on the NBA draft combine

Y'all mans a straight fraud

nigga dont wanna get outshined or sprain an ankle......

 

[BDR]

Nba combine is not the nfl combine
It don't mean shit

Yeah it's gonna mean something to these GMs for any excuse to bypass Lonzo in the draft

 

[gw1933]

Lavar Ball is very confident in his brand cant deny that.

Only problem is he likes to count his eggs before they hatch.

On a side note, the body language says it all. Lonzo has that look like "dad wont you please shut the fuck up" in some of their interviews.