Nike, Adidas, UA pass on Lonzo Ball after LaVar insists on licensing his own brand

[lazarus]

well known hits aint got shit to do with the fashion industry where he was "unproven" and thats how he was treated. BGOL called him a fool and said quit depending on these companies to give him shit and build his own. Suddenly when its Nike niggas start talkin like CACs and act like they Phil Knight or some shit.

you going all over the place to support this slant of yours. lol. kanye has a brand name and didn't need a huge company to sell. thats what people were saying. he's an established commodity. when you have that, it is easier to build with an audience already. the fashion industry ignoring him was a mistake so the consensus was he should go out and get it.

lavar has a mutt kid that hasn't played one second in the league and wants a billion. What business would do it?

AND YOU STILL HAVEN'T ANSWERED THE QUESTION!

If you were the head of Nike, would you give a billion to Lonzo for a shoe deal? It's a simple question.

 

[Non-StopJFK2TAB]

you going all over the place to support this slant of yours. lol. kanye has a brand name and didn't need a huge company to sell. thats what people were saying. he's an established commodity. when you have that, it is easier to build with an audience already. the fashion industry ignoring him was a mistake so the consensus was he should go out and get it.

lavar has a mutt kid that hasn't played one second in the league and wants a billion. What business would do it?

AND YOU STILL HAVEN'T ANSWERED THE QUESTION!

If you were the head of Nike, would you give a billion to Lonzo for a shoe deal? It's a simple question.

Balance sheets exist for a reason.

 

[ballscout1]

Starbury...

Some of y'all try so hard to preach black empowerment you cheer dumb shit..

LeBron signed for 80 million out of high school.

Now he has an unprecedented deal

Jordan brand is how he became an owner after settling with his ex

Rose signed for 250 million

But I guess they got fucked huh ?

This kid hasn't shown he will even be a pro stud.....at this point he is just overhyped trying to make demands

 

[RoadRage]

AirBall 1

 

[Ninja05]

Starbury...

Some of y'all try so hard to preach black empowerment you cheer dumb shit..

LeBron signed for 80 million out of high school.

Now he has an unprecedented deal

Jordan brand is how he became an owner after settling with his ex

Rose signed for 250 million

But I guess they got fucked huh ?

Lebron signing for that much coming out was an anomaly. D arose was already established and a superstar before he got that money. No one is getting money like that anymore coming out of college. It's not about getting fucked, it's betting on yourself in a global market. Some folks take a chance - and why not when you are guaranteed at least $8 - $10 million as a top 5 pick? It's not like a Chinese company isn't gonna pay him millions as well.

I don't understand how this is dumb shit if he ends up with a Chinese company and finesses a co-branding deal or profit sharing. Klay Thompson isn't getting $9 million from Nike, but he got it from a Chinese company. Wade is able to design his own shoes and become a chief brand ambassador.

 

[ballscout1]

AirBall 1

 

[REDLINE]

AirBall 1

If that was the shoe, I'd personally fly to Cali right now and adopt Lonzo for the next four months so the we can start his career of right

 

[Duece]

I wonder how Lavar Ball is gonna feel if his son get's drafted by a small market team.

 

[REDLINE]

I don't understand how this is dumb shit if he ends up with a Chinese company and finesses a co-branding deal or profit sharing. Klay Thompson isn't getting $9 million from Nike, but he got it from a Chinese company. Wade is able to design his own shoes and become a chief brand ambassador.

And the majority of the sneaker population doesn't give a shit about their shoes, they getting paid tho

 

[ballscout1]

Lebron signing for that much coming out was an anomaly. D arose was already established and a superstar before he got that money. No one is getting money like that anymore coming out of college. It's not about getting fucked, it's betting on yourself in a global market. Some folks take a chance - and why not when you are guaranteed at least $8 - $10 million as a top 5 pick?

I don't understand how this is dumb shit if he ends up with a Chinese company and finesses a co-branding deal or profit sharing. Klay Thompson isn't getting $9 million from Nike, but he got it from a Chinese company. Wade is able to design his own shoes and become a chief brand ambassador.

Wade was a champion when he got that..

This ain't survivors remorse and there ain't no Chinese upstart in this story.

Rose was not established but he was in the league 2 years and won mvp

This kid ain't won shit and was just a good player....nothing special ....

He got alot to prove

 

[ballscout1]

Under armor going broke paying steph....and he won

 

[2 ONE 3]

Let's just cut the bullshit and be realistic here when it comes to basketball Nike is king

Their technology, designs, cool factor, not to mention the nostalgic aspect all plays a role in why Nike is so dominant.


No upstart with three brothers is going to break the bank. UA isn't even moving units of Steph's shoes


And he was the first time unanimous MVP

 

[N*E*R*D]

I see a lot of comparing to other NBA superstars like Klay and D-Wade, stop right there!

These dudes put in work on the court, the NBA court! This lil dude hasn't done anything in the NBA yet and y'all think the Chinese are about to give them what they gave Klay and Wade? Be realistic!

Truth is Lavar is playing with his kids future earnings by thinking he's the one in control. Lonzo needs to find him a brotha that's an agent or manager to put him in a better direction! His dad will get his piece of the pie, just chill the fuck out.

Oh yeah, that Kanye comparison Keone did was fucking idiotic

 

[Ninja05]

And the majority of the sneaker population doesn't give a shit about their shoes, they getting paid tho

Whether shit takes off is on the design, popularity, etc.. I have no idea what's going on in China or Asia.

Wade was a champion when he got that..

This ain't survivors remorse and there ain't no Chinese upstart in this story.

Rose was not established but he was in the league 2 years and won mvp

This kid ain't won shit and was just a good player....nothing special ....

He got alot to prove

True. He got a lot to prove. But even Evan Turner got his own shoe and clothing line from a company as a rookie. It's not necessarily about selling shoes in America. It's about building his brand. If he becomes a major brand ambassador overseas then so be it. But one thing we will do is probably discuss his shoes when they come out (regardless of the brand).

It's up to his brand and the design to go from there. If the shit is tight, it may take off. Or it could be like those Curry bullshits. But the spotlight will be on his shoes regardless of where he goes.

 

[lazarus]

Some slave ass mentality and thinking in this thread. Wasn't yall the first negros jumpin on Kanye that he should create his own clothing company instead of begging for a white company to sign him?
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Lebron signing for that much coming out was an anomaly. D arose was already established and a superstar before he got that money. No one is getting money like that anymore coming out of college. It's not about getting fucked, it's betting on yourself in a global market. Some folks take a chance - and why not when you are guaranteed at least $8 - $10 million as a top 5 pick? It's not like a Chinese company isn't gonna pay him millions as well.

I don't understand how this is dumb shit if he ends up with a Chinese company and finesses a co-branding deal or profit sharing. Klay Thompson isn't getting $9 million from Nike, but he got it from a Chinese company. Wade is able to design his own shoes and become a chief brand ambassador.

misleading. Klay got a $2 million shoe deal from Ante AFTER being in the league. When GS started winning and got a ring, it went to $9 million/year deal. Still a ways off from getting a billion. lol Still nowhere near the top echelon of Nike either.
Klay was with Nike first. It's the smart move to make before you even step foot. Do a 2-3 year deal and get all the money you can. Once you have that, and popularity and you blowing up the league, you in a higher position of negotiation. Lavar gassed up his kid but no one going to make a move for that price. So much pressure on this kid.

Pops talking about co-branding and a billion dollars when his kid got ate up for 39 points in his last game. Lillard and Wall going to have a field day.

 

[Ninja05]

I see a lot of comparing to other NBA superstars like Klay and D-Wade, stop right there!

These dudes put in work on the court, the NBA court! This lil dude hasn't done anything in the NBA yet and y'all think the Chinese are about to give them what they gave Klay and Wade? Be realistic!

Truth is Lavar is playing with his kids future earnings by thinking he's the one in control. Lonzo needs to find him a brotha that's an agent or manager to put him in a better direction! His dad will get his piece of the pie, just chill the fuck out.

Oh yeah, that Kanye comparison Keone did was fucking idiotic

Man Evan Turner got his own clothing line and signature shoe as a rookie. Brandon Ingram is getting $2 million from Adidas. Jaylon Brown is getting about a million. No one is getting big money like that in their rookie deal anymore. Someone has y'all thinking these rookies are getting massive shoe deals. It isn't happening anymore. If he proves himself as a superstar, he has some leverage. It's similar to selling "tapes out the trunk of your car". You may not go platinum but you have the ability to control the product more and get a higher return potential.

Has anyone seen the new Ingrams? What about the Jayln Browns? Are them shits flying off the shelves??

 

[Ninja05]

misleading. Klay got a $2 million shoe deal from Ante AFTER being in the league. When GS started winning and got a ring, it went to $9 million/year deal. Still a ways off from getting a billion. lol Still nowhere near the top echelon of Nike either.
Klay was with Nike first. It's the smart move to make before you even step foot. Do a 2-3 year deal and get all the money you can. Once you have that, and popularity and you blowing up the league, you in a higher position of negotiation. Lavar gassed up his kid but no one going to make a move for that price. So much pressure on this kid.

Pops talking about co-branding and a billion dollars when his kid got ate up for 39 points in his last game. Lillard and Wall going to have a field day.

Misleading is thinking Ball would get a big deal from Nike as a rookie. That wasn't gonna happen. He was gonna get $2-3 million annually most likely.

 

[lazarus]

Misleading is thinking Ball would get a big deal from Nike as a rookie. That wasn't gonna happen. He was gonna get $2-3 million annually most likely.

wiggins was first rumored to get between 10-12 with adidas. he could have got more than 2-3 with a good negotiator and got there with step increases based on performance. the chinese won't give more than 2-3 million for a nobody either.

 

[Ninja05]

wiggins was first rumored to get between 10-12 with adidas. he could have got more than 2-3 with a good negotiator.

Every time I mention a contract I am speaking annually. Wiggins got about $2 million annually, same as Ingram. You think Ball couldn't get that in China? Especially with all this press right now??? The hype alone will generate interest. Now add the fact that he is being labeled the heir to the pure PG throne.

 

[IT IS WHAT IT IS]

Starbury...

Some of y'all try so hard to preach black empowerment you cheer dumb shit..

LeBron signed for 80 million out of high school.

Now he has an unprecedented deal

Jordan brand is how he became an owner after settling with his ex

Rose signed for 250 million

But I guess they got fucked huh ?

This kid hasn't shown he will even be a pro stud.....at this point he is just overhyped trying to make demands

Nah... but according to the BGOL smartest guy in the room crew, he's a marketing genius... Da Fuck is he marketing though? Himself actually

 

[IT IS WHAT IT IS]

Whether shit takes off is on the design, popularity, etc.. I have no idea what's going on in China or Asia.


True. He got a lot to prove. But even Evan Turner got his own shoe and clothing line from a company as a rookie. It's not necessarily about selling shoes in America. It's about building his brand. If he becomes a major brand ambassador overseas then so be it. But one thing we will do is probably discuss his shoes when they come out (regardless of the brand).

It's up to his brand and the design to go from there. If the shit is tight, it may take off. Or it could be like those Curry bullshits. But the spotlight will be on his shoes regardless of where he goes.

You build your brand by performing on the court, not by having a father making idiotic demands and making an ass out of himself.. and the American dollar is critical, unless you are Stephon Marbury... NO way in hell ANY exec with the slightest degree of common sense would deal with this kids dad at this point. And Lonzo hasn't proven shit yet, so all his dads dumb ass yelping won't change shit...

 

[JazzyBenz]

Who has said fuck the big 3 and had a good shoe?

https://images.search.yahoo.com/yhs...tent/uploads/2013/05/shoe-10.jpg&action=click
right???

 

[lazarus]

Every time I mention a contract I am speaking annually. Wiggins got about $2 million annually, same as Ingram. You think Ball couldn't get that in China? Especially with all this press right now??? The hype alone will generate interest. Now add the fact that he is being labeled the heir to the pure PG throne.

LOL. China will not pay unless its proven on the court. It's simple.

 

[therealjondoe]

AirBall 1

These shits look like
the Air @Amajorfucup
Speed walking in the mall edition

 

[tallblacknyc]

You build your brand by performing on the court, not by having a father making idiotic demands and making an ass out of himself.. and the American dollar is critical, unless you are Stephon Marbury... NO way in hell ANY exec with the slightest degree of common sense would deal with this kids dad at this point. And Lonzo hasn't proven shit yet, so all his dads dumb ass yelping won't change shit...

the crazy thing is he's not guaranteed to even get picked in the draft.. them owners could literally go fuck this kid and not even draft him..than what?? he gonna get a sneaker deal in china for being a black balled player??? he has big ideas with zero money behind it.. i could see if he had his own backing, he had pre-orders already on deck, got a shitload of material and people that kno how to make shoes..but he has none of the above and actually needs a company to invest in his product idea..that's the diff in this case..he needs a company not the other way around.. so he needs to humble himself cause at the end of the day if nobody invest and nobody scoops his kid up he'll be left with nothing but empty pockets and big dreams

 

[ballscout1]

Misleading is thinking Ball would get a big deal from Nike as a rookie. That wasn't gonna happen. He was gonna get $2-3 million annually most likely.

2-3million?

Not no more

He gonna get a VIP card and a few boxes of gear like most get....

He better hope he sticks after his rookie deal..

Like I said he hasn't impressed but benefitted from the hype...then didn't do shit on the big stage

 

[ballscout1]

the crazy thing is he's not guaranteed to even get picked in the draft.. them owners could literally go fuck this kid and not even draft him..than what?? he gonna get a sneaker deal in china for being a black balled player??? he has big ideas with zero money behind it.. i could see if he had his own backing, he had pre-orders already on deck, got a shitload of material and people that kno how to make shoes..but he has none of the above and actually needs a company to invest in his product idea..that's the diff in this case..he needs a company not the other way around.. so he needs to humble himself cause at the end of the day if nobody invest and nobody scoops his kid up he'll be left with nothing but empty pockets and big dreams

He's half white so he'll get picked......hope he don't let his daddy invest his rookie deal money

 

[tallblacknyc]

He's half white so he'll get picked......hope he don't let his daddy invest his rookie deal money

never take anything for granted..some of these owners mite not like the whole antics with drafting this kid and mite pass on him.. they observing the whole situation from afar and prob fig out is his skill level worth the headache..if it's not they'll easily go not interested...nothing guaranteed until he sign something on the dotted line

 

[ballscout1]

never take anything for granted..some of these owners mite not like the whole antics with drafting this kid and mite pass on him.. they observing the whole situation from afar and prob fig out is his skill level worth the headache..if it's not they'll easily go not interested...nothing guaranteed until he sign something on the dotted line

Hmm and Lenny cook had more NBA potential......now he just a fat dude happy to know some NBA cats

 

[sherminator]

Maybe he respects his father?

He does..... to a fault

Marbury laid the foundation. Niggas clown today, but they were hot for minute until their main distribution store closed. As cheap as it is to make quality kicks if Lavar Ball is serious all it takes is a strategic partnership with a Chinese shoe factory and decent marketing. Don't start on some "we gone beat Nike at their own game shit". Employ a really good shoe designer and start a groundswell campaign built around not just the shoe, but whole lifestyle surrounding the shoe. Make them exclusive to start (don't even mention the shoe, just have Lonzo wear them in games and build the hype. Once the hypebeasts get a hold, you know you got something. Start at the boutique sneaker shops then expand from there.

Niggas doing the most, and if he thinks he can hustle his way into a payday, he's hustling backwards, this ain't about black white rich or poor, it's about leverage, he has none, his son isn't even the number 1 projected kid, he has no leverage, then you come into the meeting showing more ignorance than poise, he basically played himself out of money, and I got a feeling this shit is gonna take its toll on them boys and one of them gonna snap

 

[Amajorfucup]

These shits look like
the Air @Amajorfucup
Speed walking in the mall edition

You piece of shit.

 

[TeEdIzZeL]

At the end of the day, Lonzo's play in the NBA will determine the success of their brand. If he balls up (no pun intended) then this could actually work. If hes a scrub then they gonna have to wait to see what the next 2 Ball's do. The middle one is trash so the saving grace would have to be the youngest one.

Now imagine LeBron not signing with Nike and doing his own thing, these youngsta would have been buying "Brons" since his rookie Cleveland days. Same shoe minus the Nike swoosh. So in reality it can be done but Lonzo would have to be hella successful in the NBA.

 

[keone]

some dumb ass people posting and relating everything to slave mentality. is kanye a well known artist with multiple hits or just coming out with no hit songs?

nah you the dumbass. you got to stand for something at the end of the day.yall be in here judging people but was you there when dad was spending bread on his son? you sitting from afar trying to dictate someone's life when you havent even put one nickel into his career.

yall be the first people to say white this white that. but be the first to accept everything from them when it comes to money. then complain how we dont own shit.

 

[lazarus]

nah you the dumbass. you got to stand for something at the end of the day.yall be in here judging people but was you there when dad was spending bread on his son? you sitting from afar trying to dictate someone's life when you havent even put one nickel into his career.

yall be the first people to say white this white that. but be the first to accept everything from them when it comes to money. then complain how we dont own shit.

you're an idiot. stand for something does not mean being stupid about expanding your business. nothing to do with white, black. lavar is being stupid from a business standpoint. that's not even debatable, really.

 

[keone]

you're an idiot. stand for something does not mean being stupid about expanding your business. nothing to do with white, black. lavar is being stupid from a business standpoint. that's not even debatable, really.

he is being stupid but he got his son there right? 10 years from now if shit did not work out, you can talk all the shit you want. and i will say you were right. but for now just keep watching the show.
as long as they pay him a great salary, he can do and make whatever he wants.