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"So Grandpa, tell me the story of how you got rich again !"
"Well, it was back in early 2017 when we still used pieces of paper called dollars and it all started with this sophisticated group of investors I chatted with on a wealth building forum"
"What was that forum called again Grandpa?"
"Hey, lets log onto Toy's R Us and get some toys son."
"Ok"
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So...what if he said something positive about ripple?

I don't see it. Trump has never supported Tech. Another thing to think about is that if Ripple got to just $100 each then we are talking Billions. If multiple millionaires are being made, then that money has to have come from other people's pockets. Assuming billions in new money isn't being printed. It actually works against the "Old money" wealth people's interests for Cryptocurrency to take off.
 
My ETH already went up almost 5 bucks (started at 49.75) ...LOL
Too bad I only bought 5.15 of them
If 1,000,00.00 was invested it would have made over 87k in one day
I love this New Market. It's highly volatile and different


How would you have made 87k from investing 1k?
 
China Cracks down on Bitcoin Exchanges, Prices Fall


Last week, Chinese authorities signaled that they would begin to crack down on Bitcoin exchanges and trading activity taking place in the country. This sent the price of Bitcoin down from a near-term high of over $1,100 to below $750 as investors and traders in China scrambled to sell, some forced to liquidate positions automatically due to margin calls. The price of Bitcoin has since stabilized somewhat, now trading around $830, but due to China's influence and size of the global Bitcoin market, people are still paying attention to what the government will do next.

China and Bitcoin
Chinese individuals have flocked to Bitcoin, the semi-anonymous, borderless, digital currency in an effort to circumvent strict capital controls imposed by regulators, and to stave off the effects of systematic devaluations in the Chinese currency, the Yuan. China's activity in the Bitcoin market has grown such that currently more than 95% of all exchange activity is between Bitcoin and Yuan (BTC/CNY), with around 4% Bitcoin to U.S. dollar, and the rest to currencies such as the Euro, Canadian dollar or Russian ruble. To put this in to perspective, according to Bitcoin price data aggregator, Bitcoinwisdom, over the last 24 hours, 1.2 million Bitcoin traded in exchange from CNY while just 15,250 traded for dollars. In dollar terms, that is nearly $1 billion worth of Bitcoin notional has changed hands in China and jus under $13 million in the U.S. The market cap of Bitcoin is currently just under $14 billion. (For more, see: Is Bitcoin Being Used for Chinese Capital Flight? )

"When China sneezes, Bitcoin catches a cold," remarked Charles Hayter, CEO of digital currency comparison website CryptoCompare. The latest drop was set off by news of spot checks from Chinese regulators on local bitcoin exchanges. Indeed, bitcoin prices have spiked in the past when China has announced currency devaluations or capital control measures, and so it is not surprising that the market has operated in reverse on potential negative news.

According to CNN/Money, "Finance officials inspected exchanges in Shanghai and Beijing on Wednesday to check whether they were sticking to anti-money laundering rules and other regulations, according to statements from the Chinese central bank." Meanwhile, one of the largest Chinese bitcoin exchanges, BTCC, issued a statement on the matter saying, "All operations at BTCC are normal and we continue to actively work with regulators to ensure that we remain compliant." (See also: Could Bitcoin Surpass $2,000 in 2017?)

The Bottom Line
Bitcoin prices tumbled 30% from near-term highs after Chinese regulators announced inquiries into a number of bitcoin exchanges in the country. Many Chinese individuals have seen the digital currency as a safe haven against capital controls and currency devaluation. The price of bitcoin has since stabilized after much of the panic selling, and forced liquidations due to margin calls, has cleared.



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Is buying one bitcoin and sitting on it a solid investment. Let's say I bought it at 890 and it went up to 2000 how much would I pay in fees if I wanted to flip it. I also assume this would also have to be reported on my taxes???
 
Is buying one bitcoin and sitting on it a solid investment. Let's say I bought it at 890 and it went up to 2000 how much would I pay in fees if I wanted to flip it. I also assume this would also have to be reported on my taxes???
I do not understand this question.

You would make $1110, minus whatever fee you have to pay to withdraw, if any.
 
I'm in the same boat but I bet it isn't....

It is. I looked it up and it has the amount you paid and the amount of Bitcoin you bought for that price. Hopefully the price is up in 6 days when the transfer goes thru. I might take it over to Bitstamp(no fees) and switch it back and forth like a Day trader. It fluctuates 5% in days. A 2K investment can make $100 a day just fucking around on a smartphone.
 
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Win or lose, this experience has taught me how easy it is to make huge amounts of money with good decisions. Even if this completely flops, its a whole new world for me.Looking at Bitcoin's success, i'm seeing examples of investments paying out 1000% and more. Saving money has its place but investing is the way to get rich. With all of this new technology and ideas, there will be more Apple,Google,Bitcoin etc opportunities that will come up. It just comes down to having an open mind to recognizing potential and the balls to throw some money at it. It doesn't take millions to get rich.
 
Is buying one bitcoin and sitting on it a solid investment. Let's say I bought it at 890 and it went up to 2000 how much would I pay in fees if I wanted to flip it. I also assume this would also have to be reported on my taxes???
This isn't a stock or investment. It's a form of currency.

Imagine converting your USD to a currency when you went on vacation, you come back home and exchange it back, you don't pay taxes on it.

I've made money traveling to DR years back when it was volatile. Their currency fluctuated 10-15 pesos in one week of me being there.
 
This isn't a stock or investment. It's a form of currency.

Imagine converting your USD to a currency when you went on vacation, you come back home and exchange it back, you don't pay taxes on it.

I've made money traveling to DR years back when it was volatile. Their currency fluctuated 10-15 pesos in one week of me being there.

I'd still consider it an investment tho
 
I'd still consider it an investment tho
It is but technically a financial advisor wouldn't state this as being an investment instrument is why I said that.

This is just like hedging some of your money into buying gold coins and having them delivered to your doorstep. If you sold them later, who's going to tax you on it. Why would there be any tax liability if you bought it with post tax dollars. In regards to the other question.
 
I had trouble with the Kraken wire from my bank...Read a ton of stories about Chase and their despise of digital currency to the point of locking down and closing the accounts of those who purchase Bitcoin.. Tried a visa gift card, but 247Exchange is having an issue with their bank. Went to a bitcoin atm instead and used BitGo wallet with dual Google authentication while i look for a new bank. The transaction was pretty easy but i found the fees to be way to high..but at least I got it done. Transferred to Kraken and purchased Ripples. If anyone is in the same position, Ally and Simple banks were 2 recommended that are happy to work with digital currency.
 
I had trouble with the Kraken wire from my bank...Read a ton of stories about Chase and their despise of digital currency to the point of locking down and closing the accounts of those who purchase Bitcoin.. Tried a visa gift card, but 247Exchange is having an issue with their bank. Went to a bitcoin atm instead and used BitGo wallet with dual Google authentication while i look for a new bank. The transaction was pretty easy but i found the fees to be way to high..but at least I got it done. Transferred to Kraken and purchased Ripples. If anyone is in the same position, Ally and Simple banks were 2 recommended that are happy to work with digital currency.


Hmm I used my chase credit card to buy bitcoin didn't have an issue at all. I'm waiting on a deposit from my chase banking account now to be made to so that I can buy more. I wonder if that's why it's taking so long ???
 
Hmm I used my chase credit card to buy bitcoin didn't have an issue at all. I'm waiting on a deposit from my chase banking account now to be made to so that I can buy more. I wonder if that's why it's taking so long ???
I put my transaction through on the jan 6 and it still says pending
 
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Is buying one bitcoin and sitting on it a solid investment. Let's say I bought it at 890 and it went up to 2000 how much would I pay in fees if I wanted to flip it. I also assume this would also have to be reported on my taxes???

I am thinking the same. You could buy a few, chop it up and sell it in increments for profit.
 
I put my transaction through on the jan 6 and it still says pending

Well damn. Now I wonder if it will ever go thru. Have they at least taken the money out of your account as if yet?? Plus not sure what you attempted to withdrawal but mine was just 250.00
 
Well damn. Now I wonder if it will ever go thru. Have they at least taken the money out of your account as if yet?? Plus not sure what you attempted to withdrawal but mine was just 250.00

Mine was for 200.. The money was never taken out
 
Mine was for 200.. The money was never taken out

Oh snap mine is in now deposit went thru. I was about to call chase but wanted to check before I did one more time and it was there.


Also it's already increased in value to more than what I deposited by like 9 bucks lol.
 
My ETH already went up almost 5 bucks (started at 49.75) ...LOL
Too bad I only bought 5.15 of them
If 1,000,000.00 was invested it would have made over 87k in one day
I love this New Market. It's highly volatile and different



FAM they say the first million is always the hardest. after that, you got the muscle to really work the interest rates and flex on banks who want your business.
 
Oh snap mine is in now deposit went thru. I was about to call chase but wanted to check before I did one more time and it was there.


Also it's already increased in value to more than what I deposited by like 9 bucks lol.
Cool
 
Oh snap mine is in now deposit went thru. I was about to call chase but wanted to check before I did one more time and it was there.


Also it's already increased in value to more than what I deposited by like 9 bucks lol.
Maybe the difference was that you used your credit card, where mine was a wire from my bank account.
 
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This isn't a stock or investment. It's a form of currency.

Imagine converting your USD to a currency when you went on vacation, you come back home and exchange it back, you don't pay taxes on it.

I've made money traveling to DR years back when it was volatile. Their currency fluctuated 10-15 pesos in one week of me being there.

You think that when you cash out you won't have to pay capital gains tax to the IRS? Keep dreaming. The U.S. considers cryptocurrency as an ASSET, So if you make money it's subject to taxes.
 
You think that when you cash out you won't have to pay capital gains tax to the IRS? Keep dreaming. The U.S. considers cryptocurrency as an ASSET, So if you make money it's subject to taxes.
Are my bitcoins taxed as income, or as capital gains?

Income that is earned through the exchange of services with another person, whether in the form of bitcoins, dollars, or barter; is included in gross income, and would be subject to income tax at applicable rates. Also these bitcoins could be subject to self employment tax.

In some jurisdictions, income earned through the process of buying and selling bitcoins would also be included in gross income, but would be treated as capital gains.

Note: The above interpretation is based on the assumption bitcoins are treated as a store of value such as gold, or other such commodity. If instead they are treated as a currency or debt, the full gain could be taxed based on market value at the end of each tax year. 3858 IRS Ends Currency ETN Advantage Simply put, the IRS never considers currency a long-term investment. Consequently, if bitcoins are treated as a currency, you will be taxed the same as holding an account in any non-functional (foreign) currency.

https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Tax_compliance

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My two cents:

And if they want to interpret it as capital gains, there are ways to defer that "indefinitely" or other instruments and entities you can put that into like a Trust.

You're thinking in terms of transferring funds back to USD. While others live completely in crypto currency, as in paying rent, buying items online strictly through Bitcoin.

There are many ways to deal with things down the line and the IRS is the last thing on my mind.
 
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