Democrats Gearing Up For 2020
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That's exactly what they want. Lite. Avoid this Hilary shit next time. America not getting a female president. They'd rather have a black guy than a woman.
I agree. Hilary was the WRONG woman apparently......and she still won the popular vote.
I do. I don't see cacs voting for a woman. I don't even see them voting for a white woman. White women vote with their husbands and neither is putting a woman in "power".
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Dems are idiots; I could fix the party in one day; the shit they be talking is just foolish
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Could you at least tell how you could do that?Dems are idiots; I could fix the party in one day; the shit they be talking is just foolish
Could you at least tell how you could do that?
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I got you bro; here it is and its a real simple plan; GO PROGRESSIVE; and i mean all the way; Now lets define Progressive so that way we are very clear; and these are my thoughts on the Progressive Movement:Could you at least tell how you could do that?
1. Own Marijuana Legalization; Dems should push this in every fucking state; Go hard for it; It will create jobs, countless(these are jobs were you dont have to have a degree and can pay decent money); It will help to fix the justice system; it will eliminate the over crowding of the prison population; It will help to fix communities across the country; The "american people" that they are polling are in favor of it; Every Dem in every state should own this and push it; Repubs dont really wanna push it so highlight the differences....
2. Go Green; Push for federal level and states to go more wind, solar power; Again this will create jobs; To me this should be push in states like the midwest; Ohio, Michigan, Indiana, Illionios, Wisconsin, Minnesota, and Missouri; these are states that get hit hard with manufacturing job loss; You dont need to have major degrees to run solar and wind shit; just need training; Again pushing for job growth and also addressing climate control; Repubs dont want this, so own it and highlight the differences;
3. Get away from shit that scare these white folks; stop arguing about gay shit, and gun control, and abortion shit; that doesnt mean those topics shouldnt be addressed when you win the office; but start dealing with issues that will actually make people vote for you consistently; like jobs!!!!
4. Highlight the fucking economy!!!!!; Under the Bush/Regan administration, taxes were raised on the middle class, lowered on the upper class and jobs werent created for shit; Now highlight that change under Clinton and Obama administration; Im sure Trump is going to use the same tactics as the Bushs; Now they could use the first 2 points as a way to promote job growth;
5. Going back to the midwest; Highlight Obama and the Dems saving the auto industry; where as Trump said he would let that industry fail; That save by the Dems and Obama help the auto industry to recover and also saved and created jobs!!!
6. Infrastructure; Own this!!!; There no need for anything in streets and bridges and sidewalks etc in America to be fucked up; Again this will create, what, JOBS!!!; and the midwest needs tons of infrastructure done; Adds should be run constantly in those areas as well as around the country about this; Dems should own this!!!!
7. Close the tax loopholes that this corporations exploit to not pay taxes; this should be highlighted over and over; Let them know you will be taxed at whatever percent they make up; but if you create x amount of real jobs each year, then your taxes are lowered; this is something that the people would rally around
8. Create a comprehensive immigration plan that really works; Push it; Own it; They will secure the Latino/Hispanic/Mexican vote with it
9. Go hard for Civil Rights and Civil liberties; That gets you the libetarian and Independent Vote
10. Really assessed the Justice System and getting it fixed/changed...
11. Raise the minimum wage; Run on this issue
I could go on and on, but you get the point; They should have every single Dem from Local, State, and Federal level adopt these issues and run on them period; No exceptions; shows a unified party; Constantly highlight the differences between them and the Repubs; they dont want any of this shit, so get the American people to accept that; Repubs are for big businesses and rich people; Easily point this out by showing who Trump is putting in his cabinet; All billionaires; this is something that should be hammered over and over; Hammer trump on anything that doesnt make sense from a middle class point of view; Hes already back tracking so this is easy; hes gonna fuck up and do things for rich people; this should be highlighted over and over; etc etc etc....
If I am going to reply, I'd like to do so without you thinking that I am addressing you in a personal way. You have been gracious to share your thoughts, I will do the same.
Furthermore, I am a independent populist proletariat so I don't walk a fine line, my government walks the fine line. I'm not loyal to any party, the parties need to be loyal to me and the American People.
1. Drugs are not a problem to me other than the organizations that would carve up territories and create "jurisdictions". Secondly, I wouldn't want my daughter around the MJ culture or people using it. That goes for bars and anything "adult". She's twelve and not dumb, but I'm still her parent and she knows I am raising her right. I realize I can't build a fortress around her but she's still my baby and I want her childhood as innocent as any child had with a good upbringing. I run my house the way I run my house. If nobody likes it, I don't give a damn. I still believe in decency.
2.Going green is a luxury that we cannot afford right now. It's good, don't get me wrong. The costs of fitting all of the needed materials and competent labor would certainly need federal subsidies, and who knows how much that would cost, but I venture to say it would be astronomically prohibitive. I get 300 days of sunshine per year where I live. Seattle would be fucked. LOL
3.I confess that I don't really understand this point. Arguing about gays and guns? I own two guns and I lock them up properly. I have some gays at my job and nobody fights.
4. Yes, I will agree that we are really in need of tax reform.
5. Clinton lost all of the "Rust Belt" because people saw through the muck of liberal trade policies. It's not as pretty as the liberal media would like to paint it. Yes, Obama did the bail out. It was a positive thing. Was it a fix? Obama and the Dems, kept saying to the people in the MidWest, "Jobs are leaving and there's nothing we can do about it!" Trump, with no power, is negotiating with companies now.
6.My state has the worst roads in the country. We even have two toll roads owned by Spain and Australia for 99 years. They pay for maintenence and then the roads return under the ownership of the State after 99 years. Meanwhile, those foreign countries collect for 99 years. i'm in favor of some kind of help.
7. One of the pillars of modern capitalism is the reward for doing a good job. I think "smart loopholes" are needed that specifically rewards good corporate business. Hong Kong is one of the few countries that have a sliding scale that rewards corporations for a job well done. That model created a beast of an economy. Not perfect though.
8. Our immigration is broken and I think Trump is the man to fix it. The job of immigration is to control the flow of immigrants into the country while weeding out criminals and other undesirables. Immigration is about THE COUNTRY and not about the immigrant. What I mean about that is, what are the immigrants bringing to the table? Can you do something special? Furthermore, the social costs that are not quantified by money. I have heard Pepper Bellies say that Americans are not really educated unless they know how to speak Spanish. The goverment of Mexico issuing Memin Penguin stamps! The social costs of educating a racist people like Mexicans would be a long endevour. But most importantly, we should not, under any circumstances reward law breakers. US Code 8 1324 and US Code 8 1325 and US Code 8 1252c is the LAW. Those who are here get a permanent ban for their animalistic tendencies. Furthermore, the 14th Amendment was to give African American ex-slaves citizenship. Border jumpers squirting out their little illeglet on US soil does not make that little spic-ling an American Citizen. http://www.usnews.com/opinion/artic...-doesnt-make-illegal-aliens-children-citizens
9. The whole idea of not running with a party is that each citizen acts independently on what motivates him or her. Independents are not a mass or block but what the name says: a bunch of independent voters.
10. Agreed!
11. Minimum wage is vastly more complicated that just raising it and everyone lives happily ever after. Minimum wage is a "rock bottom" mechanism that is supposed to catch a person when they "fall" and to give a peek to the youngsters about holding a real world job. I can walk into my nearest McDonald's and mybe one or two people can speak English and they are 45 years old!
Nice discussion with you, brother!
That's what the voters saw in this last insurrection election. Repiglicans are no better!
The fact that Trump is a Republican is due to the need to have a major party backing him in the US political system. Trump is NOT a Republican, he's actually a populist like I am.
The country is changed forever due to the Repiglicans having Congress and the Supreme Court.
Not many people in my circle still look to the Dems for anything and they won't even acknowledge Repubs.
Not taking anything personal and I appreciate your thoughts; Again these were/are ideas that the Dems can run on that the people can get behind;
1. Saying that "drugs is not a problem to you" is understandable but its also shortsighted; Drug laws are ruining communities across the states; Drugs are affecting all communities across the states and needs to be addressed; This Mexico shit with how they are killing each other is one of many issues as to why there is a mass exodus from their country; And they are killing each other because of drugs; Its a whole lot of issues that can be resolved by legalizing drugs; From generating revenue from taxes which can be used for all sorts of things, to creating jobs that benefits the middle class and the economy; Whether it affects you directly doesnt matter, but it affects you indirectly whether you know it or not...
2. Going Green isnt a luxury, its a necessity; its needed for climate issues; it will directly create jobs and it takes us off fossil fuels; Which takes us off of foreign dependency; it a cycle when you look at things as a whole; And lets be real, every fucking industry the government has and/or still does give subsides too; so the money is there
5. Yes it was a solid fix; did it solve everything, no; it wasnt suppose to; and there is nothing they can do about certain manufacturing and other jobs leaving; again thats why the government needs to help create other industries that will supplant those jobs;
6. If the Dems would get behind infrastructure they would own this country; think about the jobs that a real good infra plan would create; now add that with the jobs that going green and drug legalization would create; on top of other job plans; man this countrys economy would go robust real quick!!!
7. Capitalism is overstated and its not really going on in America right now; whats going on is Corporatism; and thats need to change; if the Dems would take their party from corporate america and actually gave it to the people, man they would run america...
8. Trump isnt about to fix shit; He doesnt know how to fix anything to be honest; and all the people his putting in his cabinet are either idiots or out of touch with real issues; Sending all these "illegal immigrants" back doesnt fix anything; there over here for a multitude of reasons, one of which is because rich people want them here; so they not about to fix shit...
9. Independents decides elections on the national level all the time; Civil liberties and Civil issues are important and the Dems could own that; again giving the control back to the people
11. We all know its complicated; still it needs to be raise
Again there are more issues that can be owned by the Dems to which they could vastly change their party and also change this country; Trump will fuck up book that, and the Dems should be their to capitalize on it....
Repubs are running STATES....GET STATES.....F THE WHITE HOUSE RIGHT NOW.
If any party nominates a female that party will lose.......
This country is not ready to elect a woman for President......folks need to stop fooling themselves
This country is not ready to elect a woman for President......folks need to stop fooling themselves
I just wanna say a lot of folks voted for her; like 2.5mill more than Trump; a difference of more than the last 10 presidents had; Just think about that before you say a woman cant be elected...
Running up the numbers in major cities doesn t mean shit man.....group think lives together in areas of the country...so what she wins new york and california by a higher percentage....she can t win the states needed.....
And there isn t another woman out there now who has even remotely enough resume as her.....dems would he fools putting up another woman
You missing the point instead of understanding it; All previous 10 presidents could have benefited from those major cities as well and didnt, like she has; its a fallacy to think this country wont elect a woman; she lost Michigan by 10k votes, not a lot; she lost Wisconsin by 20k votes, again not a lot; it was there just came up short; country is more than ready; You think Michelle Obama would have lost to Trump??? think hard about that before you answer
1. What I meant about me "not having a problem" was a nod at individual liberty to put whatever they want into their bodies. In Mexico they are not fighting over drugs but, as I mentioned earlier, the lucrative transport and territory.
2. Going green is a luxury when the infrastructure is not there. You go into the negative real fast, but the piecemeal approach is better when dealing with massive projects like that. It took a decade for Eisenhower to realize the US Highway system and it still wasn't finished completely before he died.
5. Kicking the can...
6. The infrastructure is good but you are going to need more time. The money would be better spent on education that an all out infrastructure facelift.
7. The Dems and Repubs are forever ruled by money. That's the way it is. If anyone don't want to take the corporate "donation" for control, they have a topless limo waiting for you to go sightseeing in downtown Dallas!
8. Trump understands what must be done, Illegal aliens must leave our country. No if or buts about it. I approve of the Trump Presidency on just immigration alone. Dems could have fixed our broken system but they refused. Now comes a Juggernaut named Donald...
9. I was just commenting on viewing independents like any other political horse. We are both, liberal and conservative. Boxes are for the small minds. Give me the issue and I'll tell you what I believe, not the other way around.
11. I will agree that more needs to be done about minimum wage.
Dems are idiots; I could fix the party in one day; the shit they be talking is just foolish
Keeping Pelosi in charge is one if the dumb decisions they made. They have lost so many seats in the House under her leadership, it's absolutely pathetic.
1. No, they are killing each other because of the drug business; Mexicans are trying to control the entire drug business; They are growing Heroin now; Add that to Cocaine and Pills and Weed; they will run the entire planet; There are powers that dont want that to occur; That transportation shit is bullshit
2. Going green again isnt a luxury; The infrastructure can be put in place with the assistance from the Government; Which would create tons of jobs; You wont go negative because you are putting people to work; Its a consumer base economy and the economy needs more consumer and more money; The money is already there, its just a matter of allocating it properly; something the government does not do well
6. Education money can be easily gotten by legalizing drugs; again there is plenty of money just have to allocate it properly; All these things that have been mention are correlated in some way or can be;
Oh I didnt even mention that crime drops because of legalization also
; Shit aint rocket science....7. Both parties are ruled by corporations; but if one ever decides to have the balls to stop that shit; they would take control of America real quick
8. Trump doesnt understand shit; there is nothing that he has said or demonstrated to show that he does; there is nothing that you can point to that he has done or said that shows that he understand; His full of shit; He says whatever; he has no back bone; dude flip flops over and over; he is even backing off alot of his dumb shit that he was saying; Again he isnt even going to be running anything; hes going to be letting his advisors do it
; and his closes advisors are his kids
; shit is retarded...9. Every one knows that; point is the masses like labels and label themselves; and the dems should capitalize on that
1. Distribution channels...1. No, they are killing each other because of the drug business; Mexicans are trying to control the entire drug business; They are growing Heroin now; Add that to Cocaine and Pills and Weed; they will run the entire planet; There are powers that dont want that to occur; That transportation shit is bullshit
2. Going green again isnt a luxury; The infrastructure can be put in place with the assistance from the Government; Which would create tons of jobs; You wont go negative because you are putting people to work; Its a consumer base economy and the economy needs more consumer and more money; The money is already there, its just a matter of allocating it properly; something the government does not do well
6. Education money can be easily gotten by legalizing drugs; again there is plenty of money just have to allocate it properly; All these things that have been mention are correlated in some way or can be;
Oh I didnt even mention that crime drops because of legalization also
7. Both parties are ruled by corporations; but if one ever decides to have the balls to stop that shit; they would take control of America real quick
8. Trump doesnt understand shit; there is nothing that he has said or demonstrated to show that he does; there is nothing that you can point to that he has done or said that shows that he understand; His full of shit; He says whatever; he has no back bone; dude flip flops over and over; he is even backing off alot of his dumb shit that he was saying; Again he isnt even going to be running anything; hes going to be letting his advisors do it
9. Every one knows that; point is the masses like labels and label themselves; and the dems should capitalize on that
2. I could have sworn I said something about government subsidies...
7. Did you read about the limo ride?
8. Can you show me anything in Federal law that says otherwise? I have given you the law: US Code 8 1324, Us Code 8 1325 and US Code 8 1252c
Dude now you just saying shit just to say shit...
1. I said the Mexicans are killing each other because of drugs; you came back with transportation and territory; Dude why would they need territory and transportation?????? because of drugs; Lets stop playing word games here for the sake of being in disagreement; I dont like dealing with people that just want to say shit to try to prove they are smart; It all boils down to drugs and control over them; you saying territory and transportation is redundant...
2. Again there was no need for you to say subsidies when I already said Government has funded and/or still is funding almost every fucking industry in America; so you saying that is redundant again; Everyone knows that; It just a matter of the Government allocating the funds
And again you quoting law means nothing when is an idiot; Everything Trump has done before he was elected to now has further shown hes an idiot; From the people who is advising him to the people he has tried to give cabinet jobs to suggest this; Nothing that he has said has shown you or anyone else that he is about to fix immigration or knows how to; again lets stop with word play bullshit....
They rigged the popular vote:
- illegals voting
- People voting multiple times
- dead people voting
- fractional counting of votes
- voting machine software manipulation
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