Being a part time father isn't sufficient. If possible, Children should see both parents in the home working together to build a family. Can a child really understand the workings of a family/home if it's only one in the home? Do you know how many men approach me that are fathers to someone? Do you? It's ridiculous.
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Being a part time father isn't sufficient. If possible, Children should see both parents in the home working together to build a family. Can a child really understand the workings of a family/home if it's only one in the home? Do you know how many men approach me that are fathers to someone? Do you? It's ridiculous.
I feel you, they could have, Im glad they didnt. I also couldve ended up in a napkin, or flushed down a toilet too so the what ifs dont really matter in this case.
I dont want to turn it into absolutes. Anything is possible when the person wants it bad enough. I am saying though less of our kids would fall through the cracks is abortion wasnt so vilified. Im simply saying it is an option, and there should be no stigma for getting one. Hell lets be honest, allot of these girls are doing it with no help from the father too. So that life............ Isnt 1 Id want any girl facing. Especially when I as an adult can see whats going to happen before she can.
I would rather revamp the adoption/foster care system than keep giving money to Planned Parenthood honestly.
I just think abortion should be a life/death situation. Like if the woman's life is on the line if she actually has the child.
A lot of these girls have to take responsibility as well. A lot of women choose to have kids because they are trying to stay with the dude, or make the dude change in some way. In this case, they have all the choices to their disposal.
Lets not act like these girls are pure as the wind driven snow...
yeah the black family and the black community has changed and not for the better.
why are you getting pregnant when you don't want a child ?
so make stupid ass choices and then avoid any responsibility by either using abortion as birth control or telling somebody who doesn't agree with your dumb decision to raise the child ?
there is birth control, tubal ligation and even the plan B morning after pill but you pregnant with an unwanted child.
how about stop fucking raw like you going to pilates class.
Stop being silly.
Fathers have always spent less time in the house because they went out to work in some cases two jobs.
I know plenty of people who have better relationships with their "part time" parent than with their parents who live with them.
Its quality not quantity but those who have no raised children often have it twisted too so don't feel bad
Some of you should go watch Maafa 21 when you have the time.
Thats my point. Children need to see their father working, bring in money to feed the family.
It seems to be easier being the part time parent.
Its whatever and I can't care about shit like this no more , tho, I've come to terms that their will never be a black family that stays together like their once was.
They won't though BGOL is home to some of the most uninformed black people on the planet. You have a bunch of people who don't read or study. They get all their information from white sources and Facebook and Twitter post, then they come in here and with and argue with all the confidence in the world.
BGOL is getting dumber by the day won't even sticky Fidel Castro
I swear the Feds run this site now. Fantasy football gets a sticky though. What a bunch of faggots. I'm out
Have you read anything on the amount of abortions done to black women vs other races?
What you have to understand is "per-capita" percentages here.
No.
But if these companies set up stores in Black/Minority communities and gave out guns for free then sold the dead people's body parts..........
http://www.snopes.com/margaret-sanger-weeds/
Claim: Margaret Sanger said "Slavs, Latin and Hebrew immigrants are human weeds" in need of eradication.
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Example: [Collected via Facebook, June 2016]
Origin:A July 2015 controversy involving women's healthcare provider Planned Parenthood (concerning the purported sale of fetal tissue) triggered a number of social media conversations about reproductive health; among them, inevitably, were several quoted attributed to early family planning advocate Margaret Sanger.
In her lifetime, Margaret Sanger's vocal support of birth control and women's reproductive agency was deeply controversial, though she is widely credited as a galvanizing force in women's healthcare. Sanger's legacy has been similarly fraught with suspicion and accusation due to her advocacy of birth control and selective family planning, and a number of dubious quotations attributed to her spiked in social media popularity during the 2015 Planned Parenthood controversy.
One such quote is featured on an image meme in the embedded tweet above, claiming that in 1922 Sanger said the following:
Slavs, Latin and Hebrew immigrants are human weeds ... a deadweight of human waste ... Blacks, soldiers and Jews are a menace to the race.
Tracing the origins of the quote above proved difficult as many primary iterations of it have since been deleted from the web (though some are cached); the earliest versions we were able to locate didn't appear until sometime between 2008 and 2009 (primarily on blogs and forums). All of those initial iterations cited a now-deleted page on a crisis pregnancy center's website (a cache of which can be viewed here). The page was titled "RACIST AND EUGENICIST STATEMENTS BY MARGARET SANGER, THE FOUNDER OF PLANNED PARENTHOOD," and that iteration of the quote suggested (via the creative use of bracketed paraphrasing) Sanger's words had been somewhat creatively interpreted:
[Slavs, Latin, and Hebrew immigrants are] human weeds ... a deadweight of human waste ... [Blacks, soldiers, and Jews are a] menace to the race. Eugenic sterilization is an urgent need ... We must prevent Multiplication of this bad stock.
-- Margaret Sanger, April 1933 Birth Control Review
A scanned copy of the April 1933 Birth Control Review is available online [PDF, archived here]; Sanger was neither credited as the author of any of its articles nor mentioned in any of them. The closest quotation to the one cited in the meme we could turn up came from an 8 April 1923 New York Times article attributed to Sanger in which she used the word "weeds" in a somewhat similar manner, but didn't attach it to any particular race or ethnicity:
I was merely thinking of the poor mothers of congested districts of the East Side who had so poignantly begged me for relief, in order that the children they had already brought into the world might have a chance to grow into strong and stalwart Americans. It was almost impossible to believe that the dissemination of knowledge easily available to the intelligent and thoughtful parents of the well-to-do classes was actually a criminal act, proscribed not only by State laws but by Federal as well.
My paper was suppressed. I was arrested and indicted by the Federal authorities. But owing to the vigorous protests of the public and an appeal sent by a number of distinguished English writers and thinkers, the case against me was finally abandoned. Meanwhile "Birth Control" became the slogan of the idea and not only spread through the American press from coast to coast, but immediately gained currency in Great Britain. Succinctly and with telling brevity and precision "Birth Control" summed up our whole philosophy. Birth Control is not contraception indiscriminately and thoughtlessly practiced. It means the release and cultivation of the better racial elements in our society, and the gradual suppression, elimination and eventual extirpation of defective stocks — those human weeds which threaten the blooming of the finest flowers of American civilization.
In his 1992 book American Extremists: Militias, Supremacists, Klansmen, Communists & Others, author John George writes that this quote was "evidently concocted in the late 1980s for the purpose of trying to make the early birth control advocate seem a racist and anti-Semite" and that "this fabrication has been kept in circulation by antiabortion and anti-birth control groups."
Last updated: 27 June 2016
http://www.snopes.com/margaret-sanger-weeds/
https://rewire.news/article/2015/08/20/false-narratives-margaret-sanger-used-shame-black-women/
Anti-choicers wield misattributed and often outright false quotes about Sanger as weapons to shame Black women for exercising their right to choose, and even more nonsensically, to shame them for supporting Planned Parenthood.
In the wake of the attacks by the Center for Medical Progress, Planned Parenthood’s origins and its founder, Margaret Sanger, have once again become the center of conversations regarding Black women and abortion. And since anti-choice fanatics seem utterly incapable of making an honest argument in support of their position that Black women should be forced into childbirth rather than permitted to make their own decisions about what to do with their bodies, they resort to lies, misinformation, and half-truths about Sanger and the organization she founded.
Anti-choicers wield misattributed and often outright false quotes about Sanger as weapons to shame Black women for exercising their right to choose, and even more nonsensically, to shame them for supporting Planned Parenthood.
“Margaret Sanger was a racist and a eugenicist! She wanted to exterminate the Black race!” Such is the clarion call of these anti-choicers.
At the outset, I’d be remiss if I didn’t point out that whether or not Planned Parenthood had its roots in anti-Blackness is irrelevant in a discussion of the services that Planned Parenthood provides in 2015, ranging from abortion care to prevention and treatment of sexually transmitted infections, to Pap smears and other forms of cancer screening. The United States is rooted in anti-Blackness. Anti-Blackness was built into the U.S. Constitution by this country’s Founding Fathers. Nearly every major corporation that exists today was either founded by racists, employed racists, built their business on anti-Blackness and slavery, or all of the above. Any argument that Black women in America should disavow Planned Parenthood because of some history of anti-Blackness would necessarily require that Black women disavow the very country in which we live.
But on to the truth about Margaret Sanger.
Sanger was pro-birth control and anti-abortion. This may surprise you, considering that Planned Parenthood opponents frequently accuse Sanger of erecting abortion clinics in Black neighborhoods, a practice they claim the organization continues to this day.
But this is simply not true.
Sanger opposed abortion. She believed it to be a barbaric practice. In her own words, “[a]lthough abortion may be resorted to in order to save the life of the mother, the practice of it merely for limitation of offspring is dangerous and vicious.” Her views are, ironically, in keeping with the views of many of the anti-choicers who malign and distort her legacy.
In fact, Planned Parenthood did not even begin performing abortions until after 1973, when the U.S. Supreme Court’s decision in Roe v. Wade legalized the practice. Margaret Sanger had been dead for four years by then. And currently, less than 4 percent of Planned Parenthood clinics that offer abortion services are located in communities where more than one-third of the population is Black, according to a recent analysis conducted by Planned Parenthood that Alencia Johnson, assistant director of constituency communications at Planned Parenthood, shared with me via email. A broader analysis conducted by the Guttmacher Institute in 2011 based on data available from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention shows that fewer than one in ten abortion providers overall are located in neighborhoods where more than half of residents are Black. It is simply false that Planned Parenthood is targeting Black women by setting up clinics primarily in Black neighborhoods.
It is true that Sanger was a proponent of eugenics, and pro-choice advocates do themselves no favors by attempting to whitewash this fact and paint Sanger as some infallible feminist hero. Sanger was passionate about contraception—perhaps to a fault—and her fervor about promoting her birth control agenda led her to align herself with eugenicists, along with racists and an assortment of people of questionable character.
But it is simply untrue that Margaret Sanger wanted to exterminate the Black race. This is a flat-out lie. Yet it is one that is repeated ad nauseum, both by anti-choice activists and the politicians who support them, most recently Ben Carson.
In propagating this lie, anti-choicers infantilize Black women and strip them of their agency: They portray Margaret Sanger’s birth control agenda as something that was done to Black women, rather than something in which Black women and much of the Black community as a whole enthusiastically participated.
The Negro Project
In her seminal book Killing the Black Body, Dorothy Roberts points out that leaders in the Black community actually welcomed Sanger’s birth control agenda in the 1930s, and even criticized it for not going far enough to serve Black people.
W. E. B. Du Bois, who was one of the first Black leaders to publicly support birth control and who worked closely with Sanger to advocate for it, even serving on the board of a clinic that Sanger opened up in Harlem, criticized the wider birth control movement because of its failure to address Black people’s needs as well.
It was this failure that gave birth to the sinister-sounding Negro Project.
Due to segregation policies in the South, the birth control clinics that opened in the 1930s were for white women only. Sanger wanted to change that. She sought to open clinics in the South staffed by Black doctors and nurses, and to educate Black women about contraception. In 1939, after she had been named honorary chairman of the board of Birth Control Federation of America (the precursor to Planned Parenthood), Sanger launched the Negro Project. The Federation’s Division of Negro Services, a national advisory council, which included prominent Black leaders like Du Bois, Mary McLeod Bethune, E. Franklin Frazier, Walter White, and Rev. Adam Clayton Powell, worked to manage the Negro Project.
The Negro Project had nothing to do with some nefarious plot to exterminate Black people or to “sterilize unknowing Black women,” as claimed by BlackGenocide.org—which is a widely read website seemingly dedicated to spreading false information about Margaret Sanger and Planned Parenthood. Rather, the Negro Project was a concerted effort by Sanger and Black community leaders to bring birth control to the South in a way that would assuage the deep-seated fears of Black birth control opponents like Marcus Garvey, who believed that the use of birth control in the Black community was tantamount to Black genocide.
Many opponents of Planned Parenthood purposefully obfuscate this history in order to paint Sanger, and in turn Planned Parenthood itself, as spearheading a plot to kill off Black people. Anti-choice fanatics typically rely on two quotes as their bread and butter in this claim, even as they use Black women as weapons in their war against abortion. It’s high time to set the record straight.
The first is a Sanger quote in which she defends the Negro Project in seemingly racist language: “The mass of Negroes particularly in the South still breed carelessly.”
The second quote can be found in Sanger’s infamous letter to Clarence J. Gamble: “We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population.”
The first quote, even when read in full and in context, certainly sounds damning:
The mass of Negroes particularly in the South still breed carelessly and disastrously, with the result that the increase among Negroes, even more than among whites, is from that portion of the population least intelligent and fit, and least able to rear children possibly.
But what anti-choicers either don’t know or willfully obscure is that Sanger borrowed this quote directly from W. E. B. Du Bois.
Du Bois was a passionate advocate of civil rights and a defender of Black women, specifically. He also publicly supported birth control. Nevertheless, as Dorothy Roberts wrote, “Du Bois and other prominent Blacks were not immune from the elitist thinking of their time. As reflected in Du Bois’s statement borrowed by Sanger to promote the Negro Project, they sometimes advocated birth control for poorer segments of their own race in terms painfully similar to eugenic rhetoric.”
Does the fact that Sanger borrowed the quote from Du Bois excuse her actions? Maybe. Maybe not. But it certainly provides some much-needed context.
The second quote, “We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population,” might be Planned Parenthood opponents’ favorite. It is culled from a 1939 letter to Dr. Clarence J. Gamble, heir to the Proctor & Gamble fortune, and is even more damning than the borrowed Du Bois quote—if you ignore the context in which it was written, that is.
That context wasn’t about hiding the “true exterminatory purpose” of the Negro Project from Black people. Rather, it was about elucidating the true purpose of the project—disseminating birth control in Black communities in the South—and training Black doctors to work within their own communities:
It seems to me from my experience where I have been in North Carolina, Georgia, Tennessee and Texas, that while the colored Negroes have great respect for white doctors they can get closer to their own members and more or less lay their cards on the table which means their ignorance, superstitions and doubts. They do not do this with the white people and if we can train the Negro doctor at the Clinic he can go among them with enthusiasm and with knowledge, which, I believe, will have far-reaching results among the colored people. His work in my opinion should be entirely with the Negro profession and the nurses, hospital, social workers, as well as the County’s white doctors. His success will depend upon his personality and his training by us.
The minister’s work is also important and also he should be trained, perhaps by the Federation as to our ideals and the goal that we hope to reach. We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population and the minister is the man who can straighten out that idea if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members.
A related memo written by Dr. Gamble in 1939 clarifies the point:
There is great danger that we [the Negro Project] will fail because the Negroes think it a plan for extermination. Hence let’s appear to let the colored run it.
Sanger’s full quote in context has the exact opposite meaning that anti-choicers like to attribute to it.
Moreover, Sanger also held some rather forward-thinking views about the oppression of Black people, especially for a white feminist in the early 20th century. In an oft-ignored interview with Earl Conrad for the Chicago Defender in 1945, Sanger said:
Discrimination is a world-wide thing. It has to be opposed everywhere. That is why I feel the Negro’s plight here is linked with that of the oppressed around the globe.
The big answer, as I see it, is the education of the white man. The white man is the problem. It is the same as with the Nazis. We must change the white attitudes. That is where it lies.
In that same article, Sanger described an encounter with an “anti-Negro white man”:
When we first started out an anti-Negro white man offered me $10,000 if I started in Harlem first. His idea was simply to cut down the number of Negroes. ‘Spread it as far as you can among them,’ he said. That is, of course, not our idea. I turned him down. But that is an example of how vicious some people can be about this thing.
Not exactly the words of a woman hell-bent on exterminating Black people, are they?
It is undeniable that Sanger espoused some problematic and racist views about Black people. Certainly her paternalistic attitudes about Black people’s ability to disseminate information about birth control in their own community—along with Sanger’s view that, as Dorothy Roberts wrote, “many Blacks were too ignorant and superstitious to use contraceptives on their own”—were indubitably racist. And although you’d be hard-pressed to find any white person at the time who was completely free of racist thinking, and some of her problematic views echoed the views of prominent Black leaders, that still doesn’t absolve her.
But as Jay Smooth pointed out in his viral video How to Tell Someone They Sound Racist, there’s a difference between being a racist and making racist remarks. Margaret Sanger, without question, made a lot of racist remarks. But was she a capital-R racist? I don’t think so, and that’s a question on which the answer scholars like Dorothy Roberts, Linda Gordon, Carole McCann, and others have been unable to agree.
The truth about Sanger and her birth control crusade is far more complex, and requires a nuanced discussion of the type that your average anti-choice crusader is either incapable or unwilling to engage.
Sanger and Eugenics
Margaret Sanger held many abhorrent ideas about population control and eugenics, ideas that any decent person today would find horrifying.
Yes, she believed that the “reckless breeding” of the “feebleminded” was “the greatest biological menace to the future of civilization.” Yes, she believed that Americans were “paying for and even submitting to the dictates of an ever-increasing, unceasingly spawning class of human beings who never should have been born at all.” Yes she believed that “morons” should be forcibly sterilized to ensure that they could not breed. She also believed that these “morons” could not be trusted to properly use birth control. Frankly, Sanger was far more ableist than she was racist.
But she was also a product of her time. The terms “moron,” “imbecile,” and “idiot” were all medical classifications back then. And eugenics—the theory that intelligence and other traits are genetically predetermined—was very popular at the turn of the century. The concern that “inferior stock” was reproducing at a faster rate than “superior stock,” was widespread. Inferior stock included anyone not viewed as a descendant of good breeding: Black people, immigrants, mentally and physically disabled people, the poor, criminals, and the “feebleminded.”
This widespread concern gave way to a panic about “race suicide,” which saw white people fretting about the deterioration of the race as a result of immigrants and Black people outbreeding good upstanding white Anglo-Saxon Americans. (Echoes of this fear exist today: white conservatives are still urging red-blooded patriotic Americans—i.e., white Americans—to breed, dammit, breed and the Quiverfull movement is very popular among Christian extremists.)
So strong was the fear of “race suicide” that even President Theodore Roosevelt attempted to shame white women of “superior stock,” also known as wealthy white women, into having more children. In his 1903 State of the Union address, Roosevelt proclaimed that “willful sterility is, from the standpoint of the nation, from the standpoint of the human race, the one sin for which there is no atonement.”
The flip side of shaming wealthy white women into reproducing more quickly was figuring out a way to keep the “inferior stock” from breeding, so that healthy and wealthy white women could catch up and forestall the deterioration of the race. The answer to that quandary was forced sterilization on a massive nationwide scale in order to keep “undesirable” people from procreating.
The principle targets of the programs included not only women of color (primarily Southern Black women, although California’s sterilization program targeted many Latina women), but also criminals, the poor, and any women—including white women—who were believed to be “feebleminded,” with feeblemindedness often corresponding to sexual promiscuity.
All of this is to say that concerns about population control weighed heavy on the minds of Americans in the early 20th century. Classes on eugenics were taught in colleges nationwide; eugenics was presented as scientific fact in biology textbooks; and the American Eugenics Society held “Fitter Families Contests” at state fairs throughout the 1920s, during which rural American families were encouraged to compete with one another to determine which family had the best “human stock.” Medals that read “Yea, I have a goodly heritage” were awarded to families that were deemed genetically favorable.
It may seem bizarre and Orwellian to us now, but that was the United States in which Sanger lived. And given the enthusiasm with which ordinary Americans embraced eugenics, it is no surprise that Sanger eventually joined up with them.
Sanger didn’t begin her campaign for birth control as a eugenicist, though. She started out as a relatively hardcore feminist. She believed that women had the right to sexual gratification and the right to choose when to become mothers.
“No woman can call herself free who does not own and control her own body. No woman can call herself free until she can choose consciously whether she will or will not be a mother.” Those are Sanger’s own words.
But feminists at the time disapproved of Sanger’s insistence on women’s rights to sexual gratification. They largely believed that Sanger’s views were unchaste and immoral, and that a woman’s place was in the home, serving her husband and being virtuous. (Not unlike many anti-choicers today who believe that if you are unwilling to deal with an unplanned pregnancy, or as they like to call it “the consequences of sex,” then you should just abstain—forever, if necessary.)
And because Margaret Sanger was passionately committed to her birth control crusade, her fervor led her away from feminism and toward an allyship with racists and eugenicists. This included, as this favored anti-choice meme suggests, giving a speech at a KKK rally in Silver Lake, New Jersey, in 1926.
But before you recoil in abject horror, remember that the KKK was a powerful political movement at the time—five U.S. presidents were members of the KKK at one point or another—and if Sanger could convince the ladies of the KKK of the benefits of birth control, then it was worth it to her. That certainly doesn’t excuse her turning to this country’s most notorious domestic terrorist group for support (and personally, I find it deplorable) but there was no one whom Sanger wouldn’t talk to about birth control.
Certainly, many of the prominent eugenicists with whom Sanger worked were virulently racist. Their attraction to birth control was that it would lead to “racial betterment” if promoted in immigrant and Black communities, and Sanger was OK with that.
Sanger herself promoted birth control as a way to reduce the birth rate of undesirable classes—“morons” and such—but the fact that many eugenicists viewed Black people as an undesirable class didn’t seem to bother her. In other words, so long as eugenicists continued to disseminate information about birth control, she didn’t appear to care about their reasons for doing so. (Notably, many prominent eugenicists at the time didn’t believe that all Black people were unfit, but rather they believed in “selective migration”—that the intelligent and desirable Black people tended to migrate to the North, leaving the less intelligent Black people behind.)
Some scholars have called her allyship a savvy political move. It enabled her to couch her birth control agenda in terms that the “race suicide” fearmongerers could understand. Other scholars view it as racist.
Whether or not she was a capital-R racist is ultimately of little concern, because as Dorothy Roberts points out, her allyship with eugenicists facilitated the goals of eugenicists, and that is something that the reproductive rights community should never gloss over:
It appears that Sanger was motivated by a genuine concern to improve the health of the poor mothers she served rather than a desire to eliminate their stock. Sanger believed that all their afflictions arose from their unrestrained fertility, not their genes or racial heritage … Sanger nevertheless promoted two of the most perverse tenets of eugenic thinking: that social problems are caused by reproduction of the socially disadvantaged and that their childbearing should therefore be deterred. In a society marked by racial hierarchy, these principles inevitably produced policies designed to reduce Black women’s fertility.
Alas, such nuanced arguments are not suitable for the 140-character soundbite world in which the abortion wars are currently being waged.
Ultimately, Margaret Sanger was a complicated woman living in a complicated time.
But to hear anti-choice zealots tell it, she was the American version of Hitler, proposing a “final solution” to the “Black question.” This is nonsense.
Anti-choicers also like to claim that Sanger was closely associated with the eugenics program in Nazi Germany. While she may be loosely associated with the program, in the same way that every American who promoted eugenics was loosely associated with the Nazis, the Nazis specifically modeled their eugenics laws on California’s sterilization law, not on Sanger’s beliefs or writings. The United States, after all, led the world in compulsory sterilization until Hitler took up the practice.
In 1927, the United States Supreme Court ruled that Virginia’s compulsory sterilization law was constitutional in Buck v. Bell, a stunningly awful decision in which Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes proclaimed “[t]hree generations of imbeciles are enough.” That decision set the stage for state after state to enact compulsory sterilization laws. By the time the Nazis embarked on their eugenics program, more than 30 states had such laws on their books. It wasn’t Sanger personally who influenced the Nazis. It was the United States as a whole.
In fact, the Nazis were not fans of Sanger. They even burned her books, as Gerald V. O’Brien points out in his article, “Margaret Sanger and the Nazis: How Many Degrees of Separation.” Moreover, as Amita Kelly writing for NPR recently pointed out, “Sanger herself wrote in 1939 that she had joined the Anti-Nazi Committee ‘and gave money, my name and any influence I had with writers and others, to combat Hitler’s rise to power in Germany.’”
Undoubtedly, Sanger held a lot of beliefs that are repugnant to us now.
But that doesn’t mean supporters of Planned Parenthood and abortion rights activists shouldn’t push back on the abject falsehoods that anti-choicers spread about Planned Parenthood and its founder while at the same time reckoning with Sanger’s more deplorable beliefs.
We can do both. We must do both.
You make the mistake of thinking sleeping in the same building determines full time or part time.
I know a family that recently went through divorce and they had three kids ...both parents see their kids everyday and share custody and they also attend all functions from open house to ball games together
They won't though BGOL is home to some of the most uninformed black people on the planet. You have a bunch of people who don't read or study. They get all their information from white sources and Facebook and Twitter post, then they come in here and with and argue with all the confidence in the world.
BGOL is getting dumber by the day won't even sticky Fidel Castro
I have posted that at least 2 different times and got less than 5 downloads combined
Who is giving out free abortions?
In Texas when they eliminated funding, pregnancy related deaths went up.
I believe everything possible should be done to preserve life, and bring a child full term once a child is conceived, but I'm not going to shame people if they don't. In the bible if someone caused a woman to miscarry before a child could survive there was a fine incurred, it was not an eye for a eye sin. Even the Pope has said women can be forgiven for having abortions now. There have been all sorts of ads targeted at minorities to try to get us behind anti abortion legislation, but I don't for one second believe they care about black life. Many also don' t believe in BIRTH CONTROL. If they aren't concerned with the PREVENTION of pregnancy, either they are religious zealots trying to make people "pay" for living ungodly lives or white supremacists trying to get the white birth rate up so white folks aren't outnumbered.
These are always deviations from the norm, but the most likely outcome, for both of your examples, typically aren't good.
The best case scenario is potentially the least likely to happen. Pointing to a couple of feel good examples isn't going to change the situation for people where having a kid would derail their life or set them back a significant number of years.
My main point is that abortion should be the last resort, not the first. I was simply showing examples of why it should be that way.
Nothing is absolute.
Are most of Planned Parenthood's clinics in black neighborhoods?
In 2014, the Guttmacher Institute, a reproductive health research center, surveyed all known abortion providers, including Planned Parenthood clinics, in the U.S. (nearly 2,000) and found that 60 percent are in majority-white neighborhoods.
Planned Parenthood has not released numbers on the neighborhoods of its specific clinics, but responding to a request for demographic information, the organization said that in 2013, 14 percent of its patients nationwide were black. That's nearly equal to the proportion of the African-American population in the U.S.
http://www.npr.org/sections/itsallp...thood-started-to-control-the-black-population
OK I'm always willing to learn something, explain the republican's argument.
You use the word government as if it is some existential being when it is not. So lets look at a few things, abortions are not as convenient as some in this thread would like to make it out to be, they are not free and they are not cheap. I can get two guns for what it cost to get an abortion and every city have more gun stores than they do abortion clinics. Furthermore as much as the gun lobby spend to put guns in the hand of every man and woman it is only the individual that can put themselves in a position wherein they can not purchase a firearm. Gun manufacturers and the gun lobby are responsible for more deaths in this country yearly than abortions are for every group of peiple that have one.
On another note, white opposition to abortion is different than black opposition. White folk oppose abortion because they are at zero growth which means for every white personal that die only one other white person was born this is why their numbers are dwindling. Black opposition tend to be more religions and rooted in this idea that it is genocide. When you look at the vast majority of black opposition to abortion it is coming from the upwardly mobile educated black middle class which describes many of us on this board. BUT, it is the upwardly mobile educated black middle class that is not having multiple children and while they decry abortion as genocide they are only having one or two children which means they are at a zero growth level as well. So it would seem the black middle class want the black poor to carry the burden of producing black life and keeping our numbers up. FOH... when you smug mofos are ready to look out for the poor women whom have multiple children come holla at me. Shit most the negros on this board give Badu hell for having multiple children with multiple men and she rich and then have their nerve to be anti abortion and fuck white women. You negroes need to do some self examinations.
Can't tell people shit.
And planned parenthood is more than just abortion. We were able to get free condoms from them growing up.
And I really don't believe in abortion in my personal life when it comes to me, but I wouldn't interfere in the next person's choice. I'm not going to raise or adopt the baby, so I stay the fuck out of other folks' business. Folks want to limit the options of others, but won't raise the fucking kids. Ask these protestors or folks screaming genocide how many unwanted kids they've adopted. If the answer is none, they should stfu.
Why can't people mind their fucking business???
Fuck that if you want to tell people they can't abort an unwanted child you should then be responsible for it.
Nobody is forced to have abortions.
1. the republican argument against Roe v Wade is based on state's rights. Most just want it to be determined by whatever state chooses to have abortions, or not.
You actually have pro choice republicans out there. Once it's back in the state's hands, each state can determine what to do about it. The problem is, people on the left do not want to have that type of fight through the states.
2. More gun laws will not stop a mass shooter. Most republicans know if you start over regulating guns, you will end up creating a bigger black market. It's actually better if you promote responsible gun ownership.
They're available for those who want them but its not like they're out hunting for customers though. If anyone is using it for contraception, its their own fault for being too cheap to use actual contraception or being too stupid (friend of mine with 5 kids who also had like 7 abortions.... Chick "didn't like birth control pills or rubbers)
I'll listen when you plot put the locations, and advertisements of the abortion clinics
I remember going with a girl to get an abortion a while ago. A white lady was out there with her signs. I told her if she had some money to give to me to help raise the baby, she didn't respond.
Their solution to everything is pray and have faith. I don't do the former and have none of the latter.
Their solution to everything is pray and have faith. I don't do the former and have none of the latter.
Or you can plot them for us. I never mentioned locations but let's go with that. If a city has a bunch of colleges in it, does that mean that colleges are targeting a particular racial demographic? NYC has a shitload of black and Latinos and NYC has a shitload of schools too. Is Fordham targeting black people? Is NJIT in Newark targeting black people? They're located there as much as any PP may be and you can go there but like PP, they're not snatching people up and bringing them in.
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Fucking hypocrites. Aborted fetuses is big business and the same cells and DNA from the fetus is used to vaccine all those Jesus freaks kids and make medicine. Sometimes I think all these groups are just out there for s distraction.
Church! Tabernacle! And a hymn from the choir!!!!
Oakland California has 5.
How many are located in non black/brown neighborhoods?
ZERO
Family Planning Specialists
3 reviews
Family Planning Center · 200 Webster St #100
Closed today
CALL
FPA Women's Health
2 reviews
Family Planning Center · 400 29th St #301
Closed today
CALL
Planned Parenthood - West Oakland Health Center
4 reviews
Medical Clinic · 1682 7th St
Closed today
CALL
Planned Parenthood - East Oakland / Coliseum Health Center
3 reviews
Medical Clinic · 8480 Enterprise Way
Closed today
Does nick cannon have a college degree?
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