Barack Obama & The Illusion of Progress

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Although our beloved president reps “black cool” in spades, our lot as a people has not improved much during his presidency.
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Everyone has a favorite Obama moment. Maybe it’s the time he leaned over and whispered in Michelle’s ear, producing this iconic photograph. Maybe it was watching him break out into a very sweet Al Greenrendition. Perhaps it’s when he brushed his shoulder off. There are dozens, if not hundreds more of these moments. Barack Obama is the epitome of “Black cool.” Not only that, he is arguably one of the best political orators in recent memory. He went to Harvard Law. He is married to Michelle Obama. He is unequivocally funny and charming.

My favorite Obama moment? When he bent down and let a little Black boy touch his hair, proving to the little boy that they were indeed the same. The importance of that moment for that child and for Black people in the U.S. cannot be understated. Barack Obama‘s presidency has long-reaching and deep symbolic significance.

It has been, however, largely symbolic.

Recently, the White House released a special report on President Obama’s track record in improving the lives of African Americans during his two terms as president. Bank oversight, private sector jobs and legislation aimed at keeping people in their homes are all named. In 2009, Obama told American Urban Radio Network that he couldn’t make legislation just helping Black people. And he kept that promise. While all points in the report are true, how they specifically helped African Americans is somewhat exaggerated. The addition of private sector jobs lowered overall unemployment, yet joblessness among Black Americans remains higher than average at 8.8 percent. While programs to help stabilize low income neighborhoods and prevent foreclosures were funded, Blacks in America still saw the largest wealth gap since World War II.

While it would be unrealistic to blame Obama for these things, it isn’t unrealistic to notice that his insistence on ignoring race while forming economic policy in a country where race impacts everything from personal wealth to employability means the Black community continues to suffer.
recent study indicates if nothing changes, the average Black family would need 228 years to achieve the wealth of a White family in 2016. For any president, not creating policy addressing our community’s specific needs—needs created by ongoing discrimination and oppression—often meted out by the government itself is irresponsible, if not callous. In Obama’s case, it creates a frustrating paradox, the first Black president feels he cannot advocate, even fairly, for Black people.

We get the illusion of progress, a symbol of representation, not the actual action. What does representation truly mean for us then, if our representative cannot vouch for our interests?

This too is a large part of Obama’s legacy; continuing and expanding policies and programs started by and under his predecessor George W. Bush. In 2011, Obama extended “The Lone Wolf” provision, along with other expiring parts of Bush’s Patriot Act. Under Bush, there was protest from Democrats and Black activists about the increased surveillance of American citizens. Under Obama there was no push back of equal vehemence, even as the provisions still impacted communities of color disproportionately.

There was also the issue of Homan Square in Chicago. As of July 2016, Homan Square is a domestic ‘black site’ which has been known to hold Black and brown American citizens for as long as 24 hours, incommunicado. Police had free reign to harass and hold Chicago residents as they please, without having to read them their rights, communicate with lawyers or follow the amendments set in place to protect us from government and police abuse. When given the opportunity to suspend some of the more overreaching aspects of The Patriot Act, Obama chose to extend them. While we cannot definitely say Obama’s refusal to extend provisions within the Patriot Act would have closed Homan Square and other domestic black sites, his signing allows them to continue with little to no public accountability.

Next, his Race To The Top education policies continued Bush’s misguided work of privileging charter schools that kick low-performing students back to public school; gutting teacher’s unions; privileging the White middle class and favoring new college graduates over seasoned teachers. LA Progressive took a look at how Obama’s education policies not only promote for-profit charters but the adverse economic impact that they have in largely Black and minority school districts.

Still, Obama’s immigration record is possibly the most stark example of his politics. While we credit him for the executive order that made DACA possible, we do not fairly credit him with an immigration plan that increased policing in Black and brown neighborhoods, one that gave local police officers and ICE departments the reach to deport Black immigrants at 5 times the rate of our presence in this country.

Obama rationalizes his actions as a “good immigrant” versus “bad immigrant” dichotomy, but when combining greater police reach with well-documented racism, this outcome is inevitable: a large portion of those deported are nonviolent offenders, with only 25 percent of those deported being convicted of a violent or felony crime. DUI charges are listed as violent crimes for the purposes of immigration and therefore deportation.

This is Obama’s legacy: more deportations than any other president in the 20th century. More deportations of Black immigrants than under presidents George W. Bush and Bill Clinton.

Often when looking at the last eight years, we excuse the lack of progress as Obama’s “hands being tied” as the first Black president. We think of his darling family and his moving speeches—often more left-leaning than his actual policies—against the tide of racist vitriol and see someone like us, someone well-meaning but unable to do much against the set in stone White supremacy that is as American as apple pie.

This empathetic approach ignores the fact that when Obama can and does act, it is a revelation of his politics. He is not the progressive the Black community needs but a politician who happens to be Black; one that America approves of, symbolic of “change” that doesn’t disrupt. His presidency highlights the problem with representation in an oppressive system: the only progress is the changing face of who perpetuates the oppression.

Lesli-Ann Lewis is a small, queer and brown invader of homogeneous spaces. Her work and passion centers on the marginalized experience and has appeared in Ebony.com and RH Reality, among others.

http://newsone.com/3597126/barack-obama-and-the-illusion-of-progress-for-african-americans/
 
Y'all want immigrants gone but complain that Obama deport them. Please explain this.

You know you really funny to me.

The author wrote hundreds of words and that is the only thing you saw huh ?

But I have to give you credit , at least didn't take the easier way and say she was a dyke :lol:
 
We are always fighting the last war - Donald Trump is going to destroy our Civil rights and she is worrying about trifals while a real monster is about to lay waste to Black people.
 
People forget how bad things were when he took office. Just like we've been trained to think Christopher Columbus discovered America, is comparable to these statments. Its been a good run....he had house and the Senate to fight with. We were on the brink of a collapse. Give the guys some credit, came in with no flaws and leaving with some pride and digity.
 
Avoidance?

I'm busy so what am I avoiding?

More unarmed blacks have been killed under obama. Their unemployment situation was higher than previous. They get the least of the social programs. Obama hasn't done anything at all about but give police even more power(blue alert law) to kill more of these same stupid Niggaz who worship just cause black on the outside. That's why I'm glad Trump is in office to light a fire up under these niggaz asses.

These negroes act like they've been living in some utopia under obama. Niggaz are the biggest fools everybody's had.
 
More unarmed blacks have been killed under obama. Their unemployment situation was higher than previous. They get the least of the social programs. Obama hasn't done anything at all about but give police even more power(blue alert law) to kill more of these same stupid Niggaz who worship just cause black on the outside. That's why I'm glad Trump is in office to light a fire up under these niggaz asses.

These negroes act like they've been living in some utopia under obama. Niggaz are the biggest fools everybody's had.

To be fair this been going on a lot longer than Obama. He just hasn't done shit to make it any better and some people have accepted his excuse and help to spread it.

While it would be unrealistic to blame Obama for these things, it isn’t unrealistic to notice that his insistence on ignoring race while forming economic policy in a country where race impacts everything from personal wealth to employability means the Black community continues to suffer.
recent study indicates if nothing changes, the average Black family would need 228 years to achieve the wealth of a White family in 2016. For any president, not creating policy addressing our community’s specific needs—needs created by ongoing discrimination and oppression—often meted out by the government itself is irresponsible, if not callous. In Obama’s case, it creates a frustrating paradox, the first Black president feels he cannot advocate, even fairly, for Black people
.

Don't expect any fires though. All you have to do is look how many posters have been accepting fear talking about they gonna destroy black people or take away rights we don't enjoy as it is.

Holding hands praying somehow the election is reversed.

Posting every racist that Trump appoints but those racist have been holding offices and what did they do about them then ? Not a fukkn thing.
 
So some time has passed and I was really waiting for Cottonpicker or any of the other posters that ran to defend to actually critique the article.

I want to see how they can dispute anything in it.

But their attempts too would only go to highlight what is really wrong in our collective..

The being intentionally deaf dumb and blind when truth is uncomfortable
 
So some time has passed and I was really waiting for Cottonpicker or any of the other posters that ran to defend to actually critique the article.

I want to see how they can dispute anything in it.

But their attempts too would only go to highlight what is really wrong in our collective..

The being intentionally deaf dumb and blind when truth is uncomfortable

You can say that the rise of Trump is due to the neglect of the Obama administration. There was an opportunity for real structural change that would have helped in the long run especially Black people but there was this insistence on catering to the opposition. He had this chance to become FDR. Let me add it is our fault too because many of us fell asleep. Many of us were in love with the idea of a black president. Many of us were in love with his presidency because he was charismatic. That's just not enough. It's just superficial stuff. You protected him because the opposition wasn't given any ground, but he could have fought harder. There was no intentions to fight harder. Just to Coast
 
You can say that the rise of Trump is due to the neglect of the Obama administration. There was an opportunity for real structural change that would have helped in the long run especially Black people but there was this insistence on catering to the opposition. He had this chance to become FDR. Let me add it is our fault too because many of us fell asleep. Many of us were in love with the idea of a black president. Many of us were in love with his presidency because he was charismatic. That's just not enough. It's just superficial stuff. You protected him because the opposition wasn't given any ground, but he could have fought harder. There was no intentions to fight harder. Just to Coast

Which is exactly what the article is saying. :yes::yes:

At the end of the day and I don't agree on how he did everything, but....


Barack Obama is the greatest president of all time.

Or name me a better one?

Why was he the greatest ?
 
FOH. You soul burns after riding his dick all these years, don't it?

No it doesn't burn. I wanted him to be more than just a symbolic achievement and I gave him his entire first term.

He eventually showed that the only thing different was he looked like me.

The worst part is that all my life I was told as my parents and grandparents were that there would never be a black president in our lifetime.

So when it became clear that is might happen and then it did , expectations were high.

Now it seems like such a waste because he wasn't just the first, he is most likely the last that I will see.

The establishment won't let "another" in the front door just as Chicago and New York got one shot at black mayors and never another.

He wasted his place in history because he refused to advocate for those oppressed by this country, he was too busy trying to show them ..
 
Let me ask you, who was a better president in history?

The question is meaningless unless you say what great means or something to compare too, which is why i asked why you say he was great ?

What was happening before him in regards to the black community that isn't happening now ? Or what wasn't happening before him that is now happening.
 
The question is meaningless unless you say what great means or something to compare too, which is why i asked why you say he was great ?

What was happening before him in regards to the black community that isn't happening now ? Or what wasn't happening before him that is now happening.

I feel Barack Obama is the greatest president America has ever had because I don't believe there was anyone better.

He's the greatest by process of elimination.
 
I feel Barack Obama is the greatest president America has ever had because I don't believe there was anyone better.

He's the greatest by process of elimination.

But wouldn't you need some achievements to compare in order to determine greatness ?

For instance, he has presided over the biggest stock market boom in history so that is good for the 1% but means little to black people.

He has whittled the unemployment rate down to 4.6% for white people

The rich have gotten richer.

So if those things have benefited you then that is why he is great.
 
They rather see their white daddy in charge.its mental.

Why are you acting like Obama is some revolutionary? So you think black people shouldn't 'question' Obama? What's his legacy? Really? Can he really even 'go back' to Chicago?

George Bush (both of them) are legends in TX, built them a house, named highways after them, etc b/c they took care of their people. I think Obama took care of his people too--just not black people. Let's keep it real.

Yes, his skin is black. He's an inspiration, I love it, but don't act like he's infallible. He wanted to discuss his 'legacy' with black folks. So tell me. What's his legacy???
 
Although our beloved president reps “black cool” in spades, our lot as a people has not improved much during his presidency.
14798327998623.jpg



Everyone has a favorite Obama moment. Maybe it’s the time he leaned over and whispered in Michelle’s ear, producing this iconic photograph. Maybe it was watching him break out into a very sweet Al Greenrendition. Perhaps it’s when he brushed his shoulder off. There are dozens, if not hundreds more of these moments. Barack Obama is the epitome of “Black cool.” Not only that, he is arguably one of the best political orators in recent memory. He went to Harvard Law. He is married to Michelle Obama. He is unequivocally funny and charming.

My favorite Obama moment? When he bent down and let a little Black boy touch his hair, proving to the little boy that they were indeed the same. The importance of that moment for that child and for Black people in the U.S. cannot be understated. Barack Obama‘s presidency has long-reaching and deep symbolic significance.

It has been, however, largely symbolic.

Recently, the White House released a special report on President Obama’s track record in improving the lives of African Americans during his two terms as president. Bank oversight, private sector jobs and legislation aimed at keeping people in their homes are all named. In 2009, Obama told American Urban Radio Network that he couldn’t make legislation just helping Black people. And he kept that promise. While all points in the report are true, how they specifically helped African Americans is somewhat exaggerated. The addition of private sector jobs lowered overall unemployment, yet joblessness among Black Americans remains higher than average at 8.8 percent. While programs to help stabilize low income neighborhoods and prevent foreclosures were funded, Blacks in America still saw the largest wealth gap since World War II.

While it would be unrealistic to blame Obama for these things, it isn’t unrealistic to notice that his insistence on ignoring race while forming economic policy in a country where race impacts everything from personal wealth to employability means the Black community continues to suffer.
recent study indicates if nothing changes, the average Black family would need 228 years to achieve the wealth of a White family in 2016. For any president, not creating policy addressing our community’s specific needs—needs created by ongoing discrimination and oppression—often meted out by the government itself is irresponsible, if not callous. In Obama’s case, it creates a frustrating paradox, the first Black president feels he cannot advocate, even fairly, for Black people.

We get the illusion of progress, a symbol of representation, not the actual action. What does representation truly mean for us then, if our representative cannot vouch for our interests?

This too is a large part of Obama’s legacy; continuing and expanding policies and programs started by and under his predecessor George W. Bush. In 2011, Obama extended “The Lone Wolf” provision, along with other expiring parts of Bush’s Patriot Act. Under Bush, there was protest from Democrats and Black activists about the increased surveillance of American citizens. Under Obama there was no push back of equal vehemence, even as the provisions still impacted communities of color disproportionately.

There was also the issue of Homan Square in Chicago. As of July 2016, Homan Square is a domestic ‘black site’ which has been known to hold Black and brown American citizens for as long as 24 hours, incommunicado. Police had free reign to harass and hold Chicago residents as they please, without having to read them their rights, communicate with lawyers or follow the amendments set in place to protect us from government and police abuse. When given the opportunity to suspend some of the more overreaching aspects of The Patriot Act, Obama chose to extend them. While we cannot definitely say Obama’s refusal to extend provisions within the Patriot Act would have closed Homan Square and other domestic black sites, his signing allows them to continue with little to no public accountability.

Next, his Race To The Top education policies continued Bush’s misguided work of privileging charter schools that kick low-performing students back to public school; gutting teacher’s unions; privileging the White middle class and favoring new college graduates over seasoned teachers. LA Progressive took a look at how Obama’s education policies not only promote for-profit charters but the adverse economic impact that they have in largely Black and minority school districts.

Still, Obama’s immigration record is possibly the most stark example of his politics. While we credit him for the executive order that made DACA possible, we do not fairly credit him with an immigration plan that increased policing in Black and brown neighborhoods, one that gave local police officers and ICE departments the reach to deport Black immigrants at 5 times the rate of our presence in this country.

Obama rationalizes his actions as a “good immigrant” versus “bad immigrant” dichotomy, but when combining greater police reach with well-documented racism, this outcome is inevitable: a large portion of those deported are nonviolent offenders, with only 25 percent of those deported being convicted of a violent or felony crime. DUI charges are listed as violent crimes for the purposes of immigration and therefore deportation.

This is Obama’s legacy: more deportations than any other president in the 20th century. More deportations of Black immigrants than under presidents George W. Bush and Bill Clinton.

Often when looking at the last eight years, we excuse the lack of progress as Obama’s “hands being tied” as the first Black president. We think of his darling family and his moving speeches—often more left-leaning than his actual policies—against the tide of racist vitriol and see someone like us, someone well-meaning but unable to do much against the set in stone White supremacy that is as American as apple pie.

This empathetic approach ignores the fact that when Obama can and does act, it is a revelation of his politics. He is not the progressive the Black community needs but a politician who happens to be Black; one that America approves of, symbolic of “change” that doesn’t disrupt. His presidency highlights the problem with representation in an oppressive system: the only progress is the changing face of who perpetuates the oppression.

Lesli-Ann Lewis is a small, queer and brown invader of homogeneous spaces. Her work and passion centers on the marginalized experience and has appeared in Ebony.com and RH Reality, among others.

http://newsone.com/3597126/barack-obama-and-the-illusion-of-progress-for-african-americans/

Here is the republican strategy for the next 4 years. Keep talking about how awful a dead party with no power is.

Ballscout the republican always said he didn't talk about republicans because democrats were in power. Republicans control everything top to bottom and he still wont talk bad about them.

Remember when he was so upset the democrats were running a warhawk.
you ain't answered shit with your cut and paste ass.

and we talking about Hildebeast being the war hawk

supported Iraq War

supported a coup in Honduras

pushed for nation building in Libya

was and is against the Iran deal.


Now he is silent on all the republican warhawks who are running everything.
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Man... I love what the Obamas represent. I do not like the way he has governed at all, and I can differentiate between the symbolism.
He speaks the language of progress but does not govern that way. Much of it is empty and hollow rhetoric. He gets away with it because he is charismatic and the Republicans haven't helped.
We would have worse legislation if they decided to work with him.
 
But wouldn't you need some achievements to compare in order to determine greatness ?

For instance, he has presided over the biggest stock market boom in history so that is good for the 1% but means little to black people.

He has whittled the unemployment rate down to 4.6% for white people

The rich have gotten richer.

So if those things have benefited you then that is why he is great.

Do you feel Obama is the greatest president of all time?
 
Here is the republican strategy for the next 4 years. Keep talking about how awful a dead party with no power is.

Ballscout the republican always said he didn't talk about republicans because democrats were in power. Republicans control everything top to bottom and he still wont talk bad about them.

Remember when he was so upset the democrats were running a warhawk.



Now he is silent on all the republican warhawks who are running everything.
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Hey bitch i thought you had slit your wrists.....Good to see you still around and still lying.

I have never said the bolded not even close.

I said I don't talk about republicans because they would never get my support so it would be redundant.

So I am happy you have lost your ability to lie
 
Do you feel Obama is the greatest president of all time?

I feel he was good for the country overall and achieved some good things but I also think he was a disappointment when it came to black people in this country.

I think FDR has had a long lasting impact and many of the New Deal programs initiated coming out of the Great Depression are still relevant.

I think LBJ showed his character and although he dropped the N bomb often as white Texan he stood by his beliefs and sacrificed his career to do what he thought right. Not to mention he did something Obama refused to do...Put a black man on the Supreme Court.

So like I said earlier what does it mean greatest ?

Obama was the biggest symbolic president because black children now know they can aspire to the highest level and crakkas can no longer tell them otherwise.

You don't have to be an entertainer for crakkas and bounce a ball or sing a song you can be boss
 
Mark my words, President Trump will be given credit for the Obama recovery and health care reform, he will tweek and few things and repackage them as Trumps doing and Americans will fall for it hook line sinker... marketing 101! I already had a co worker tell me ... "Man look at Trump his election was only 3 weeks ago and unemployment is the lowest it has been in 3 decades and the stock market is at 19,000"........ o_O :rolleyes: and that was from somebody thats supposed to be"educated" ... smh
 
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