Y'all don't think Julian has reason to be going at Hillary ?
You don't think it's payback for her trying to get him when she was SOS ?
and what exactly could Wikileaks expose on Trump that hasn't already been exposed by the media ?
So Russia Hacked The US and Gave Emails To WikiLeaks........
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Y'all don't think Julian has reason to be going at Hillary ?
You don't think it's payback for her trying to get him when she was SOS ?
and what exactly could Wikileaks expose on Trump that hasn't already been exposed by the media ?
They are saying Russia without actually saying Russia did it.
Evidence points to possible Russian involvement ect ect.
When the US hacked Germany they brought it straight out with no hesitation and made the US apologize and admit it.
During the last debate I didn't see him praise Putin I saw him say if the US and Russia got along that would be great. That nobody knows if Russia hacked.
The commentator dude made him answer if Russia did it would he denounce it and he said absolutely.
Obama made Hillary Secretary of State to give her an advantage...
On Russian hacking connection, the U.S. isn't as sure as Clinton says it is
By CORY BENNETT
10/19/16 10:06 PM EDT
“What is really important about WikiLeaks is that the Russian government has engaged in espionage against Americans. They have hacked American websites, American accounts of private people, of institutions. Then they have given that information to WikiLeaks for the purpose of putting it on the internet. This has come from the highest levels of the Russian government. Clearly from Putin himself in an effort, as 17 of our intelligence agencies have confirmed, to influence our election.” — Hillary Clinton
Hillary Clinton here is slightly stretching what the Obama administration said when it officially blamed Russia for deploying its hackers to meddle with the U.S. election.
Clinton is correct that “17 of our intelligence agencies” have accused Russia of orchestrating a digital campaign that has hit top U.S. political institutions like the Democratic National Committee and the DCCC.
“The Russian Government directed the recent compromises of emails from U.S. persons and institutions, including from US political organizations,” said the joint statement from the Department of Homeland Security and the Office of the Director of National Intelligence.
But the Obama administration only said that “Russia's senior-most officials” directed the digital assault, not necessarily Russian President Vladimir Putin himself. For his part, Putin has denied any hand in the hacks.
The former secretary of state also slightly exaggerates the connection that intelligence officials have publicly made between the alleged Russian hackers and WikiLeaks.
While the intelligence community said that leaks earlier this year from WikiLeaks were “consistent with the methods and motivations of Russian-directed efforts,” it has not directly tied the recent WikiLeaks release of Clinton campaign chair John Podesta’s personal emails to Russia. When Clinton made these remarks during the debate, she was responding to a question on the content of the Podesta leaks.
However, investigators are reportedly leaning toward Russia as the primary suspect in the Podesta dump.
Read more: http://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-...re-as-clinton-says-it-is-230033#ixzz4NpPhDcho
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http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...y-clinton-blames-russia-putin-wikileaks-rele/
Well she did suggest that a drone be dropped on Julian, I guess that would piss anyone off....
http://thefreethoughtproject.com/clinton-considered-drone-strike-assange/
I forgot about...
Trump Willing to Turn His Back on NATO, Trump Fulfills Putin’s Dearest Wish
http://www.defenseone.com/politics/...to-trump-fulfills-putins-dearest-wish/130102/
How Russia Pulled Off the Biggest Election Hack in U.S. History
PUTIN, WIKILEAKS, THE NSA AND THE DNC EMAIL FIASCO THAT GAVE TRUMP AND CLINTON ANOTHER REASON TO BE AT ODDS.
BY THOMAS RID
OCT 20, 2016
The blogger was referring to a cache of more than eleven million computer files that had been stolen from Mossack Fonseca, a Panamanian law firm. The leak was the largest in history, involving 2.6 terabytes of data, enough to fill more than five hundred DVDs. On April 3, four days before the St. Petersburg forum, a group of international news outlets published the first in a series of stories based on the leak, which had taken them more than a year to investigate. The series revealed corruption on a massive scale: Mossack Fonseca's legal maneuverings had been used to hide billions of dollars. A central theme of the group's reporting was the matryoshka doll of secret shell companies and proxies, worth a reported $2 billion, that belonged to Putin's inner circle and were presumed to shelter some of the Russian president's vast personal wealth.
Vladimir Putin in St. Petersburg at a media forum in April 2016
Getty
When Putin heard the blogger's question, his face lit up with a familiar smirk. He nodded slowly and confidently before reciting a litany of humiliations that the United States had inflicted on Russia. Putin reminded his audience about the sidelining of Russia during the 1998 war in Kosovo and what he saw as American meddling in Ukraine more recently. Returning to the Panama Papers, Putin cited WikiLeaks to insist that "officials and state agencies in the United States are behind all this." The Americans' aim, he said, was to weaken Russia from within: "to spread distrust for the ruling authorities and the bodies of power within society."
Though a narrow interpretation of Putin's accusation was defensible—as WikiLeaks had pointed out, one of the members of the Panama Papers consortium had received financial support from USAID, a federal agency—his swaggering assurance about America's activities has a more plausible explanation: Putin's own government had been preparing a vast, covert, and unprecedented campaign of political sabotage against the United States and its allies for more than a year.
The Russian campaign burst into public view only this past June, when The Washington Post reported that "Russian government hackers" had penetrated the servers of the Democratic National Committee. The hackers, hiding behind ominous aliases like Guccifer 2.0 and DC Leaks, claimed their first victim in July, in the person of Debbie Wasserman Schultz, the DNC chair, whose private emails were published by WikiLeaks in the days leading up to the Democratic convention. By August, the hackers had learned to use the language of Americans frustrated with Washington to create doubt about the integrity of the electoral system: "As you see the U. S. presidential elections are becoming a farce," they wrote from Russia.
The attacks against political organizations and individuals absorbed much of the media's attention this year. But in many ways, the DNC hack was merely a prelude to what many security researchers see as a still more audacious feat: the hacking of America's most secretive intelligence agency, the NSA.
Russian spies did not, of course, wait until the summer of 2015 to start hacking the United States. This past fall, in fact, marked the twentieth anniversary of the world's first major campaign of state-on-state digital espionage. In 1996, five years after the end of the USSR, the Pentagon began to detect high-volume network breaches from Russia. The campaign was an intelligence-gathering operation: Whenever the intruders from Moscow found their way into a U. S. government computer, they binged, stealing copies of every file they could.
By 1998, when the FBI code-named the hacking campaign Moonlight Maze, the Russians were commandeering foreign computers and using them as staging hubs. At a time when a 56 kbps dial-up connection was more than sufficient to get the best of Pets.com and AltaVista, Russian operators extracted several gigabytes of data from a U. S. Navy computer in a single session. With the unwitting help of proxy machines—including a Navy supercomputer in Virginia Beach, a server at a London nonprofit, and a computer lab at a public library in Colorado—that accomplishment was repeated hundreds of times over. Eventually, the Russians stole the equivalent, as an Air Intelligence Agency estimate later had it, of "a stack of printed copier paper three times the height of the Washington Monument."
The Russians stole the equivalent of "a stack of printed copier paper three times the height of the Washington Monument.
The Russians' tactics became more sophisticated over time; they even hacked satellites to cover their tracks. But while the American code names used to track the Russian effort changed—from Moonlight Maze to Storm Cloud to Makers Mark—the operation itself never really stopped. Over the next two decades, the FSB (successor to the KGB) and the GRU (Russia's premier military intelligence organization) went after political and military targets, while the NSA and the UK's GCHQ returned the favor.
This sort of espionage was business as usual, a continuation of long-standing practice. And during the cold war, both the USSR and the United States subtly, and sometimes covertly, interfered with foreign elections. What changed over the past year, however—what made the DNC hack feel new and terrifying—was Russia's seeming determination to combine the two. For the first time, Russia used a hacking operation, one that collected and released massive quantities of stolen information, to meddle in an American presidential election. The inspiration and template for this new attack was a poisonous cocktail of fact and fabrication that the Russians call kompromat,for "compromising material."
http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a49791/russian-dnc-emails-hacked/
PUTIN, WIKILEAKS, THE NSA AND THE DNC EMAIL FIASCO THAT GAVE TRUMP AND CLINTON ANOTHER REASON TO BE AT ODDS.
BY THOMAS RID
OCT 20, 2016
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The blogger was referring to a cache of more than eleven million computer files that had been stolen from Mossack Fonseca, a Panamanian law firm. The leak was the largest in history, involving 2.6 terabytes of data, enough to fill more than five hundred DVDs. On April 3, four days before the St. Petersburg forum, a group of international news outlets published the first in a series of stories based on the leak, which had taken them more than a year to investigate. The series revealed corruption on a massive scale: Mossack Fonseca's legal maneuverings had been used to hide billions of dollars. A central theme of the group's reporting was the matryoshka doll of secret shell companies and proxies, worth a reported $2 billion, that belonged to Putin's inner circle and were presumed to shelter some of the Russian president's vast personal wealth.
Vladimir Putin in St. Petersburg at a media forum in April 2016
Getty
When Putin heard the blogger's question, his face lit up with a familiar smirk. He nodded slowly and confidently before reciting a litany of humiliations that the United States had inflicted on Russia. Putin reminded his audience about the sidelining of Russia during the 1998 war in Kosovo and what he saw as American meddling in Ukraine more recently. Returning to the Panama Papers, Putin cited WikiLeaks to insist that "officials and state agencies in the United States are behind all this." The Americans' aim, he said, was to weaken Russia from within: "to spread distrust for the ruling authorities and the bodies of power within society."
Though a narrow interpretation of Putin's accusation was defensible—as WikiLeaks had pointed out, one of the members of the Panama Papers consortium had received financial support from USAID, a federal agency—his swaggering assurance about America's activities has a more plausible explanation: Putin's own government had been preparing a vast, covert, and unprecedented campaign of political sabotage against the United States and its allies for more than a year.
The Russian campaign burst into public view only this past June, when The Washington Post reported that "Russian government hackers" had penetrated the servers of the Democratic National Committee. The hackers, hiding behind ominous aliases like Guccifer 2.0 and DC Leaks, claimed their first victim in July, in the person of Debbie Wasserman Schultz, the DNC chair, whose private emails were published by WikiLeaks in the days leading up to the Democratic convention. By August, the hackers had learned to use the language of Americans frustrated with Washington to create doubt about the integrity of the electoral system: "As you see the U. S. presidential elections are becoming a farce," they wrote from Russia.
The attacks against political organizations and individuals absorbed much of the media's attention this year. But in many ways, the DNC hack was merely a prelude to what many security researchers see as a still more audacious feat: the hacking of America's most secretive intelligence agency, the NSA.
Russian spies did not, of course, wait until the summer of 2015 to start hacking the United States. This past fall, in fact, marked the twentieth anniversary of the world's first major campaign of state-on-state digital espionage. In 1996, five years after the end of the USSR, the Pentagon began to detect high-volume network breaches from Russia. The campaign was an intelligence-gathering operation: Whenever the intruders from Moscow found their way into a U. S. government computer, they binged, stealing copies of every file they could.
By 1998, when the FBI code-named the hacking campaign Moonlight Maze, the Russians were commandeering foreign computers and using them as staging hubs. At a time when a 56 kbps dial-up connection was more than sufficient to get the best of Pets.com and AltaVista, Russian operators extracted several gigabytes of data from a U. S. Navy computer in a single session. With the unwitting help of proxy machines—including a Navy supercomputer in Virginia Beach, a server at a London nonprofit, and a computer lab at a public library in Colorado—that accomplishment was repeated hundreds of times over. Eventually, the Russians stole the equivalent, as an Air Intelligence Agency estimate later had it, of "a stack of printed copier paper three times the height of the Washington Monument."
The Russians stole the equivalent of "a stack of printed copier paper three times the height of the Washington Monument.
The Russians' tactics became more sophisticated over time; they even hacked satellites to cover their tracks. But while the American code names used to track the Russian effort changed—from Moonlight Maze to Storm Cloud to Makers Mark—the operation itself never really stopped. Over the next two decades, the FSB (successor to the KGB) and the GRU (Russia's premier military intelligence organization) went after political and military targets, while the NSA and the UK's GCHQ returned the favor.
This sort of espionage was business as usual, a continuation of long-standing practice. And during the cold war, both the USSR and the United States subtly, and sometimes covertly, interfered with foreign elections. What changed over the past year, however—what made the DNC hack feel new and terrifying—was Russia's seeming determination to combine the two. For the first time, Russia used a hacking operation, one that collected and released massive quantities of stolen information, to meddle in an American presidential election. The inspiration and template for this new attack was a poisonous cocktail of fact and fabrication that the Russians call kompromat,for "compromising material."
http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a49791/russian-dnc-emails-hacked/
They are saying Russia without actually saying Russia did it.
Evidence points to possible Russian involvement ect ect.
When the US hacked Germany they brought it straight out with no hesitation and made the US apologize and admit it.
During the last debate I didn't see him praise Putin I saw him say if the US and Russia got along that would be great. That nobody knows if Russia hacked.
The commentator dude made him answer if Russia did it would he denounce it and he said absolutely.
Obama made Hillary Secretary of State to give her an advantage...
On Russian hacking connection, the U.S. isn't as sure as Clinton says it is
By CORY BENNETT
10/19/16 10:06 PM EDT
“What is really important about WikiLeaks is that the Russian government has engaged in espionage against Americans. They have hacked American websites, American accounts of private people, of institutions. Then they have given that information to WikiLeaks for the purpose of putting it on the internet. This has come from the highest levels of the Russian government. Clearly from Putin himself in an effort, as 17 of our intelligence agencies have confirmed, to influence our election.” — Hillary Clinton
Hillary Clinton here is slightly stretching what the Obama administration said when it officially blamed Russia for deploying its hackers to meddle with the U.S. election.
Clinton is correct that “17 of our intelligence agencies” have accused Russia of orchestrating a digital campaign that has hit top U.S. political institutions like the Democratic National Committee and the DCCC.
“The Russian Government directed the recent compromises of emails from U.S. persons and institutions, including from US political organizations,” said the joint statement from the Department of Homeland Security and the Office of the Director of National Intelligence.
But the Obama administration only said that “Russia's senior-most officials” directed the digital assault, not necessarily Russian President Vladimir Putin himself. For his part, Putin has denied any hand in the hacks.
The former secretary of state also slightly exaggerates the connection that intelligence officials have publicly made between the alleged Russian hackers and WikiLeaks.
While the intelligence community said that leaks earlier this year from WikiLeaks were “consistent with the methods and motivations of Russian-directed efforts,” it has not directly tied the recent WikiLeaks release of Clinton campaign chair John Podesta’s personal emails to Russia. When Clinton made these remarks during the debate, she was responding to a question on the content of the Podesta leaks.
However, investigators are reportedly leaning toward Russia as the primary suspect in the Podesta dump.
Read more: http://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-...re-as-clinton-says-it-is-230033#ixzz4NpPhDcho
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This specifically relates to a fact check on her debate question. It says it is only uncertain in relation to the Podesta emails because they haven't been tied directly back to Russia. The DNC leaks and everything have been, as far as I know.
Yes he does have a reason and I also believe he is coordinating it all with Russua and Trump campaign.
Trump Ally Roger Stone Admits ‘Back-Channel’ Tie To WikiLeaks
http://miami.cbslocal.com/2016/10/12/trump-ally-roger-stone-admits-back-channel-tie-to-wikileaks/
BahahahahahahahaHaha NOT A DRONE DUDE.
But she made it difficult for him to get asylum anywhere when he ran the first time and she was trying to get him extradited back to the US to stand trial.
Was massive hack that floored Amazon, Twitter and Reddit PRACTICE for election day? Wikileaks supporters and hackers say attack was revenge for shutting down Assange - but many fear it's just a warm-up
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...itter-sites-suffer-outages.html#ixzz4NpVu0XLt
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- Cyber attacks forced websites including Amazon and Twitter offline
- Github, SoundCloud and PayPal websites were also reported to be down
- Outage appeared to be primarily affecting web users on the US East Coast
- Department of Homeland Security is 'investigating all potential causes'
- Some claim it could be a precursor to an attempt to disrupt the US Presidential election further
- WikiLeaks believes its supporters were responsible for the attacks
- Group called New World Hackers also claimed responsibility via Twitter
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...itter-sites-suffer-outages.html#ixzz4NpVu0XLt
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Could be true
It could also just be convenient.
We already know that Putin and Obama has beef and Hillary too
Could simply be the enemy of my enemy logic.
My point though is are the documents released true or fabricated.
If they are true then the the contents should be addressed instead of blowing it off and making the story about why they were released.
At this point it is how they were released while ignoring what was released.
If they are fakes that is another story
We won't know until there are hearings on it.
Donna Brazile said the ones dealing with her are doctored and false.
Before my time but my parents remember Russia at the time saying they would take the USA over without firing a shot. I know then it was based on spreading socialism but this could be an attempt on the takeover promise.
LENIN -- THE "OVERRIPE FRUIT" QUOTE - 1954
"First, we will take Eastern Europe, then the masses of Asia, then we will encircle the United States which will be the last bastion of capitalism. We will not have to attack. It will fall like an overripe fruit into our hands. "
LENIN -- THE "OVERRIPE FRUIT" QUOTE - 1954
"First, we will take Eastern Europe, then the masses of Asia, then we will encircle the United States which will be the last bastion of capitalism. We will not have to attack. It will fall like an overripe fruit into our hands. "
Yeah that was the cold war days.
Back when folks was saying not letting McArthur march to Moscow after WW2 was a mistake..
Just white folks and their greed though. US and Russia were pals in WW2.
Matter of fact most of the US enemies were friends when they were useful
Yes, a drone.....that's what she asked:
Clinton said "Can’t we just drone this guy?”
Of course it is. You know how you can tell? Our own "The Watcher." If he is stressing Russia instead of the info, it's like Breitbart stressing Trump propaganda. He brings Any bullshit spin Hillary or her backers puts out, he spins hard here.
Imagine getting a video of your wife having an affair. Instead of discussing the video and its contents, she is yelling and cussing about the source being out to get her and why didn't they go after the neighbor's wife. Then after that misdirection, she attempts to downplay the video itself.
And you're right. Trump is exposed every fucking day. Fuck him. However, it does seem like the media doesn't want to touch Hillary, so someone has to tell the truth about her.
That's a false equivalence. The American media has also focused on Hillary's dirt.
Podesta has already answered this... the emails are real. The Who did it doesnt matter imo
John Podesta Says Russian Spies Hacked His Emails to Sway Election
Like most people, he used the same weak password, Runner4567, for everything. They took over his twitter for a second. His email, icloud and Twitter all used the same pw.
How Podesta became a cybersecurity poster child
John Podesta Says Russian Spies Hacked His Emails to Sway Election
Like most people, he used the same weak password, Runner4567, for everything. They took over his twitter for a second. His email, icloud and Twitter all used the same pw.
How Podesta became a cybersecurity poster child
So it really ain't got shit to do with trump, julian wants that payback
very little.
they mention Benghazi but not Libya and what has transpired since Gaddafi was murdered and nothing on Honduras.
there was just a little peep about the Haitians protesting her about Haiti
and they talk about her email server but not the emails.
they been pretty light with her...
Post the hacked emails point by point and we will discuss. I haven't seen anything outside of normal campaign talk.
But if you think the emails are worse then a foreign government committing espionage and trying to influence an American election then we will debate the unverified emails.
I didn't post spin about Russia I posted facts.
Let's start with Paul Manafort. You tell me how this is spin...
Secret Ledger in Ukraine Lists Cash for Donald Trump’s Campaign Chief
Mr. Manafort’s involvement with moneyed interests in Russia and Ukraine had previously come to light. But as American relationships there become a rising issue in the presidential campaign — from Mr. Trump’s favorable statements about Mr. Putin and his annexation of Crimea to the suspected Russian hacking of Democrats’ emails — an examination of Mr. Manafort’s activities offers new details of how he mixed politics and business out of public view and benefited from powerful interests now under scrutiny by the new government in Kiev.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/15/us/politics/paul-manafort-ukraine-donald-trump.html?_r=0
http://www.politifact.com/global-ne...anafort-donald-trumps-top-adviser-and-his-ti/
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I thought it was he responded to a fake email that his account was compromised and to log in to change password.
I wouldn't doubt that Russia is involved... we hack them, they hack us, and it's a win win situation for them no matter who wins after putting that shit out there. I also wouldn't doubt that the email is unaltered. People are stupid to this day and put stuff in email that they shouldn't.
As for her private server coming into play... well, so far I don't think any of the leaks have come from her private server... they have been coming from John Podesta's account which was not on her private server... I believe they just hacked his fucking gmail account.
The information from the leaks is important, and they aren't playing well for her, but unless some shit about her selling secrets or killing somebody comes out, she's still 200 times better than trump. Does anybody deny that? The election is 2 weeks out... it's gonna be one of those two people that takes office. The only question right now is who do you want between those two? You want Hillary or you want Donald? Neither is not an answer, even if you want neither... between her or him, which one would you rather win on 11/8?
I want her over him. I want her picking for SCOTUS and I want rednecks and KKK assholes to be crying on 11/9. If there was a better choice right now who had a rats ass chance of winning; that would be great, but there is none, so it's bad choice #1 vs incredibly awful bad choice #2, and #2 has the love of the conservative right and the alt-right and the straight up Klan types. Simple choice.
As for her private server coming into play... well, so far I don't think any of the leaks have come from her private server... they have been coming from John Podesta's account which was not on her private server... I believe they just hacked his fucking gmail account.
The information from the leaks is important, and they aren't playing well for her, but unless some shit about her selling secrets or killing somebody comes out, she's still 200 times better than trump. Does anybody deny that? The election is 2 weeks out... it's gonna be one of those two people that takes office. The only question right now is who do you want between those two? You want Hillary or you want Donald? Neither is not an answer, even if you want neither... between her or him, which one would you rather win on 11/8?
I want her over him. I want her picking for SCOTUS and I want rednecks and KKK assholes to be crying on 11/9. If there was a better choice right now who had a rats ass chance of winning; that would be great, but there is none, so it's bad choice #1 vs incredibly awful bad choice #2, and #2 has the love of the conservative right and the alt-right and the straight up Klan types. Simple choice.
That should be the focus not who the fuck did it. We the people would like to know , is this shit true and could you please handle over the server Ms. Clinton.
Espionage is no big deal....
These emails are not her server. Her having a private server probably saved her from being hacked.
BTW
Just saw on msnbc a new batch of WikiLeaks came out today.
Anybody know what's in them.
I'm not home to look
Just saw on msnbc a new batch of WikiLeaks came out today.
Anybody know what's in them.
I'm not home to look
Snowden isn't a government.
Still espionage if the USA does it. Of course it's a big deal
This is you now basically. Sad how much you have turned into these people. I'm not saying you are supporting trump but you talk like them.
So what happen to the info on her private server. If the Feds wants to see it, is she obligated to them hand over?
I'm just trying to get caught up...I know neither is worthy the fuck, but just catching up. I've post shit in the past but it was just posting, now I'm trying to get informed.
The FBI has already investigated the issue. From the republican head of the FBI.
WASHINGTON — The F.B.I. director, James B. Comey, on Tuesday recommended no criminal charges against Hillary Clinton for her handling of classified information while she was secretary of state, lifting an enormous legal cloud from her presidential campaign less than two hours before she boarded Air Force One for her first joint campaign appearance with President Obama.
But on a day of political high drama in Washington, Mr. Comey rebuked Mrs. Clinton as being “extremely careless” in using a private email address and server.
The F.B.I. discovered “several thousand” work-related emails that were not in the original trove of 30,000 turned over by Mrs. Clinton to the State Department. Three of those contained information that agencies have concluded was classified, though Mr. Comey said he did not believe Mrs. Clinton deliberately deleted or withheld them from investigators.
Despite all that, Mr. Comey said the F.B.I. did not find that Mrs. Clinton’s conduct revealed “intentional misconduct or indications of disloyalty to the United States or efforts to obstruct justice.”
Ok.....didn't find any wrong doings found 3000 she didn't submit to them but also believe she didn't delete it or knowingly....
Ummmm ok
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