So Chicago has about 500+ murders per year......

[code_pirahna]

And has a population of

2.7 million people.


500/2,700,000 x 100 = 0.018% of Chicago murdered each year.

Tell the republicans to stop lying and STFU about Chicago.

 

[Tha Great Muta]

And think about how much money they spend on law enforcement. If crime is as bad as they want it to be are they admitting the chicago "cops" are the most incompetent police force in America?

 

[BDR]

Exactly... Lying sacks of shit

 

[phanatic]

And think about how much money they spend on law enforcement. If crime is as bad as they want it to be are they admitting the chicago "cops" are the most incompetent police force in America?

Malcom X said it too. How can you have that many cops in a neighborhood and call it a "solution" but crime is still rampant. The cops are either incompetent or criminal.

 

[Tha Great Muta]

Malcom X said it too. How can you have that many cops in a neighborhood and call it a "solution" but crime is still rampant. The cops are either incompetent or criminal.

I'd go with the criminal. Chicago has always been a hotbed for crime and corruption

 

[Give Me 3ft.]

Tell that to them and their families!

And 500+ is much higher than NYC & LA!


http://homicides.suntimes.com/photo-gallery/2016/

 

[Give Me 3ft.]

Op acts as if any murder is acceptable!

Know you haven't been shot before!

 

[THREAD_CRITIC]

Its pretty fucking high..

 

[Dr. Truth]

They averaged about 900 to 1000 in the 90s. Still too high

 

[dtownsfinest]

Uhh isn't that a lot lol? We need to lower that shit. I bet you those 500 people were for some senseless bullisht,

 

[dagoon121]

thats high as fuck

 

[WhenTheGoingGetsTtuff]

Op acts as if any murder is acceptable!

Know you haven't been shot before!

This is what i've been saying for years. You guys just brush it off. Like ANY murder of a black person is ok. Should be allowed....Nah. None of them are ok. Our population isn't that high. We can't just brush it off and act like it's no big deal.

 

[EPDC]

NYC has what, 8 million people? New York is currently sitting at just under 250 murders for the year.

That's low as hell considering.

500 with still 3 months to go is a lot

 

[Chitownheadbusa]

And think about how much money they spend on law enforcement.

Which is why crime is allowed and sometimes "provoked". Cant hustle state and fed dollars if you dont have a problem.

Believe it or not, that 500 number is a acceptable number among Chicago politicians and Chicagoan's in general. Back when we were getting 900-1000 per year and the crime was more widespread, the politicians had some explaining to do. But because the crime is so isolated, and its mainly only poor people of color who feel the brunt of the stress, you can comfortably demand more money for more incompetent Cops and bs Stop The Violence programs without being asked many questions.

Btw....isolated crime ties in with gentrification. Some of the most violent areas in Chicago are areas that are "up for grab". Theres a lot of valuable yet CHEAP land in Chicago. These are areas either close to the Lake, Express Way or the Loop. These are also areas that theyre trying grab before they start utilizing abandoned rail lines (Englewood specifically). A lot of these areas have a ton of Black home owners. People that have owned property since the Baby boomer years. One way to easily get these people to surrender their property is via allowing crime to get out of control. Even though a lot of the criminals are targeting other criminals, the Black elders are easily convinced that the criminals are targeting them. One reason why theyre so easily convinced is because of the disconnect between older and younger Black folks.


Hold on to the tax dollars that you got from Black tax payers....then clean up the shit after they leave. The plan worked on State Street and King Drive, with the "Housing Project experiment", and it'll work again. After this new experiment is over....in about 10-15 years....all these high crime areas will full of younger White folks whove always dreamed about living closer to the loop or Lake Michigan. All the poor folks who got raped for tax dollars will be dead, locked up or pushed off to the desolate suburbs.

 

[bigman23]

it's now at 535 murders chicago will have around 600 for the years end
https://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/2016-chicago-murders

 

[4 Dimensional]

Man, that's a lot and I bet that number changes significantly if compared to poverty in the city.

 

[bigman23]

chicago had 51 murders for the month of sept so far
https://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/2016-chicago-murders/timeline?mon=9

 

[theteacher]

This is a problem
There is a website of the people who were murdered!
DAMN MAN!!!!​

 

[code_pirahna]

Its all about perspective. You will never get 0 murders. Period.

So the whole "what about Chicago" is a bullshit deflection esp when close to zero percent of Chicago's population commits murder....

FOH

 

[code_pirahna]

Op acts as if any murder is acceptable!

Know you haven't been shot before!

When will you get a city that size with 0 murders?

 

[Dr. Truth]

Tokyo has 14 million people and averages 90 murders per year

 

[RUDY RAYYY MO]

Still high dummy being that the majority match your skin tone

 

[bham_brotha]

Are people really in here rationalizing this?

 

[hussla's paradice]

Tokyo has 14 million people and averages 90 murders per year

The U.S. loves it's GUNS. Period. When ranked with other countries, we will always have the higher rates, due to the proliferation of guns.

 

[Give Me 3ft.]

Still high dummy being that the majority match your skin tone

ALL you see(9/10),

are young male african faces!

 

[Djmarkxr7]

NYC has what, 8 million people? New York is currently sitting at just under 250 murders for the year.

That's low as hell considering.

500 with still 3 months to go is a lot

Exactly!

 

[code_pirahna]

Damn cats can t see....they are trying to make policy off of these bs stats.

 

[code_pirahna]

You have one candidate talking about nationwide stop and frisk over this shit.

 

[BlacRam357]

Which is why crime is allowed and sometimes "provoked". Cant hustle state and fed dollars if you dont have a problem.

Believe it or not, that 500 number is a acceptable number among Chicago politicians and Chicagoan's in general. Back when we were getting 900-1000 per year and the crime was more widespread, the politicians had some explaining to do. But because the crime is so isolated, and its mainly only poor people of color who feel the brunt of the stress, you can comfortably demand more money for more incompetent Cops and bs Stop The Violence programs without being asked many questions.

Btw....isolated crime ties in with gentrification. Some of the most violent areas in Chicago are areas that are "up for grab". Theres a lot of valuable yet CHEAP land in Chicago. These are areas either close to the Lake, Express Way or the Loop. These are also areas that theyre trying grab before they start utilizing abandoned rail lines (Englewood specifically). A lot of these areas have a ton of Black home owners. People that have owned property since the Baby boomer years. One way to easily get these people to surrender their property is via allowing crime to get out of control. Even though a lot of the criminals are targeting other criminals, the Black elders are easily convinced that the criminals are targeting them. One reason why theyre so easily convinced is because of the disconnect between older and younger Black folks.


Hold on to the tax dollars that you got from Black tax payers....then clean up the shit after they leave. The plan worked on State Street and King Drive, with the "Housing Project experiment", and it'll work again. After this new experiment is over....in about 10-15 years....all these high crime areas will full of younger White folks whove always dreamed about living closer to the loop or Lake Michigan. All the poor folks who got raped for tax dollars will be dead, locked up or pushed off to the desolate suburbs.

TRUTH

 

[gene cisco]

This is what i've been saying for years. You guys just brush it off. Like ANY murder of a black person is ok. Should be allowed....Nah. None of them are ok. Our population isn't that high. We can't just brush it off and act like it's no big deal.

I don't get downplaying it just because cacs talk about it. So the fuck what. Fuck them. It's a problem. It's fucking obvious. Let's resolve it instead of playing tricks with numbers.

And why would the entire Chicago population be used if 75 percent of the murder victims are black and 71 percent of the killers are black? 2010 census has the city at 32 percent. Why don't we adjust for those numbers and then do the 'tricky' math to show how much of a problem losing black lives isn't.

 

[Watcher]

Op acts as if any murder is acceptable!

Know you haven't been shot before!

You upset he said republican....

 

[code_pirahna]

I don't get downplaying it just because cacs talk about it. So the fuck what. Fuck them. It's a problem. It's fucking obvious. Let's resolve it instead of playing tricks with numbers.

And why would the entire Chicago population be used if 75 percent of the murder victims are black and 71 percent of the killers are black? 2010 census has the city at 32 percent. Why don't we adjust for those numbers and then do the 'tricky' math to show how much of a problem losing black lives isn't.

Its still not even a fraction of a percentage point

What a lot of yall need to look at is the fact that not a lot of murder happens anywhere in the US. Hell only 2500 black people are murdered annually (its about 3200 for whites). There are 40+ million black folks in this country.....the shit aint even a statistical significance.....

Yet they always want to say black on black crime is the biggest problem ever. PLEASE

 

[Alessandro de' Medici]

Op acts as if any murder is acceptable!

Know you haven't been shot before!

Speak on it. Let their kid, brother, mother, father etc get hurt and its a different bowl of soup. 911 will be called. Let some two bit thieve rob their house they can front all tough but their safety and security is done.

 

[gene cisco]

Its still not even a fraction of a percentage point

What a lot of yall need to look at is the fact that not a lot of murder happens anywhere in the US. Hell only 2500 black people are murdered annually (its about 3200 for whites). There are 40+ million black folks in this country.....the shit aint even a statistical significance.....

Yet they always want to say black on black crime is the biggest problem ever. PLEASE

We went over this another day in another thread. 2500 black people right? 3200 for cacs right? There are 160,000,000 more cacs. Now you do the math. Plug the numbers back into the equation again. As we know, most murders are intraracial. So 160,00,000 more cacs only have how many more murders?

And it's not just murders. It's shootings. It's robberies. It's brandishing guns and intimidating. There are a lot of robberies that aren't even reported in some areas. Meanwhile, cacs run to police. The numbers are crazy.

Black-on-black crime is a big problem. Walk around the black areas of the suburbs up here and walk around the white areas. See which experience is better. These cats will even catch you in the white areas. And that's the fucking suburbs. Same fucking resources.

Claiming a lost lives aren't significant. Come on man. If you were in Northeast Ohio, sadly the only areas I'd tell you to avoid would be black. And that's suburbs or the city. Meanwhile, you could walk through poor white areas without much to worry about. Sad state of affairs, but you claim it isn't a problem. Come on man, you are much better than that.

 

[Alessandro de' Medici]

Its still not even a fraction of a percentage point

What a lot of yall need to look at is the fact that not a lot of murder happens anywhere in the US. Hell only 2500 black people are murdered annually (its about 3200 for whites). There are 40+ million black folks in this country.....the shit aint even a statistical significance.....

Yet they always want to say black on black crime is the biggest problem ever. PLEASE

Bruh don't down play it with some stats.
One murder is cause for alarm. I'm checking crime stats and other things for my future family. Crime in the community is a major issue in my eyes. Yes I know poverty is a factor. I'm always doing my part to give back.