MR. ROBOT Official Discussion Thread (New Season starts Oct.6)

Quick thought about the ending Flashback. I wonder if the bruise on young Elliot's Face was a sign that this was adult Elliot slipping back into that happy world but still damaged or Was it a clue to show that the abuse from Elliot's mother started long before Mr. Robot passed away... which is not what we have been told. We have told that she was a hard woman, but that things went to physical abuse after Elliot told her about his dad's cancer. Now i'm really interested to see the scene where he does actually tell her about his Dad's Cancer. I wonder how it came up.
Elliot was in a fight in school that day.That is why his father came to pick him up. The first thing his Dad said was " if I had to guess I'd say you didn't tell principal howard your side".
 
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WordUpWednsdays :cool:

.....& I knew I recognized the nose & face, Red's MerylStreep's daughter....

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mamie gummer grace gummer louisa gummer

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here are some
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does that dream sequence mean that tyrell is dead cuz mr robot put him in the trunk and killed him after he tried to escape if he did then that means elliot killed him...right?

whatever place that was was no hospital....how the fuck literal goons are gonna pick someone up and yank them out like that..plus it really didn't look like a hospital at least not a reputable one.

Remember what I said about Angela earlier....
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ANGELA - She's a sell out. But under the circumstances she didn't have much choice. The real mind fuck for her is that the place where she is thriving is also the place that coldly decided it was better for business to let her mother die. At Allsafe she was mousy and unsure and at evil corp she's confident and proactive. At first I thought she was a geek like elliot, she's not, but in a certain way she is. She isn't a code hacker but since much of what hackers do is social engineering and information manipulation then in that way she is a hacker. Just as elliot uses information to insert himself into peoples lives on the internet..she did the same thing with e corp and the research she did to influence that case against them. Professionally she's on point but personally she's in a tailspin. Yall know she was gonna fuck old boy at the dinner. She was disappointed to see other people there when she showed up. Her instincts are right about Price but on deeper level she IS attracted either to him personally, he does take a mentor approach with her, or his power and confidence, he introduced himself at the dinner as a "master of the universe" (and he's not that far off).

Price tests her as well. Remember he told her to get fox news even tho the standing order was bloomberg first..when she questioned the order and asserted she was correct he relented. I think he just wanted to see if she would do as she's told or do whats good for the company even if it means challenging his order. Angela's moxy is positioning her to be pivotal in not just e corp but the life and death of the company itself...the question is is she really prepared to deal with it?

Does this mean angela is officially a hacker now?
 
peace

That opening 20 minutes or so was the funniest most entertaining television I've seen in 2016
Along with the bedside speech.
They made me go back to that BudLite throwback commercial to see exactly the time pd they were reflecting........
 
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is it kinda strange that elliot seemed surprised that the dark web existed? He seemed almost naive at how extensive it is and how dangerous it can be. Anyone who markets in human trafficking, torture and murder for hire isn't someone who will take being shut down easily... even tho mr robot told him that he still seemed awfully naive about the level of danger of it all.


for all of whiterose's careful attention to detail and discretion and secrecy did it seem plausible that he would host and party at his mansion and not have areas cordoned off to the guests? Dom just walked around randomly opening rooms.

Angela is horribly underestimating the repercussion for being involved in the 5/9 hack. She think at worst she can do a plea and get 10 years or so when she is in the digital version of 911..the govt needs a face to place all the blame on...in the absence of a true bad guy(s) they will gladly hang all that shit on her...bernie madoff was sentenced to 150 years in federal prison for a 65 billion dollar ponzi scheme...the 5/9 hack wipe out what..hundreds of billions of dollars? Anyone the feds catch is never getting out prison..

He wasn't surprised about the Dark Web...he was surprised that he was now helping people INVOLVED with the Dark Web

Remember the OLD Elliot was the master of this stuff and in the first season went out of his way to punish people like this.

He actually felt like he came out of the fog finally...

he was regaining whatever sanity he thought he had left and now he realizes what he is in a hole SPECIFICALLY because he didn't listen to Mr. robot and trusted the brother...

This isnt the SAME Elliot we met the first season.

You realize he didn't even remember who his sister WAS back then he was a completely different person, we can't trust anything he is doing (IF he is even really doing it!)

We will know the TRUTH about Dom and the whiterose soon enough...that was no accident in my opinion (although the sister slip up may have been)
I think the LGBT kinship is at the root.

there is going to be SOME significance to her reference about having the same clock in her home too (whether it is true or not)

Angela knows full well the magnitude of the situation but she is blinded by her love for Elliot her kinship with his sister her dead parent and now the twisted confused sense of loyalty she is starting to feel about working for E Corp.

But she knows the risks but if we know ANYTHING about Angela it is this...

she aint no punk.
 
The beginning was great


:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

Listen I don't want to wax all poetic

but I will

what the creator is doing is master work

this is modern art at its highest level.

He is using EVERY medium at his disposal to craft this.

I mean sight sound memory color fear humor anxiety nostalgia

EVERYTHING is in and on his palate right now.

Do not sleep or underestimate what he has done at all.

and this dude is a f*cking inspiration...

cause honestly like I have said MANY times before many dudes on this board HAVE this potential.

Cause I aint gonna front I had the same idea that he did in the first 15 minutes...

TRUST I couldn't do it on many levels

but down to jokes and commercials I thought of all this...

but that is what is so masterful

I GUARANTEE there are HUNDREDS of other wannabe writers producers directors etc sitting at home in awe saying

F*CK that is BRILLIANT and then...said I THOUGHT OF THE SAME THING.!!!!

but he DID it.

and I find that inspiring on a different level to Fonzi, Vicious and Gouki script and film analysis and Bills bgol chronicles you have seen regular people on this board do brilliant work too.

Man I didn't mean to get all sappy

but as a kid who grew up when it was NOT cool to be into books writing poetry computers painting comic books art jazz plays acting etc...

To see what is possible NOW?

just I got damn near emotional watching this episode.

Not even because it was mr. robot per se but just all that comes with it to make a dream a reality.

peace.
 
he said he heard he was "the best at this stuff"...i don't think he was referring to the hack...

remember the drug kingpin Elliot worded for the first season...one he aint dead and two...

you REALLY think he keep Elliot his little secret?
 
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Midway through Wednesday night’s episode of Mr. Robot, the normally emotionless Mobley begins to vent to Darlene: “You can't teach someone to hack in one day. I don't know if we'll be ready by tomorrow.” The “someone” is Angela, who has been assigned (or blackmailed, depending on your point of view) the task of launching fSociety’s latest hack that, according to the show’s lead technical consultant Kor Adana, is the most complicated hack orchestrated on Mr. Robot so far. “Nothing we have done before has been this intricate and intensive,” he says, “but this is one of my favorite hacks.”

The overall hack is as follows: The exploit code that Elliot wrote at the beginning of last week’s episode is loaded onto a device that mimics cell towers and given to Angela to plant in the E Corp building. Darlene breaks into an adjacent hotel room, aims a cantenna (which extends the range of Wi-Fi networks) at that building, connects to a hidden Wi-Fi network, and begins to download the data the device is collecting from the phones of every FBI agent within a 100-foot radius. Angela then plugs the device into the E Corp network, which allows Darlene unfettered access to all things related to the corporate behemoth.

Like Darlene explained to Angela — simple.

But the planning for such a plotline, fictional or otherwise, isn’t necessarily straightforward. The exploit and retrieval of hundreds of thousands of text messages, emails, notes, calendar entries, and pictures from the Android phones of FBI agents stationed on E Corp’s 23rd floor took several episodes for fSociety to plan, but for Adana, his team of technical consultants, and the show’s writers, the true story that inspired this episode’s hack stretches to 2013, well before Sam Esmail’s series was green-lit by USA executives.

At that year’s Black Hat conference, a premiere hacking and computer-security event held annually in Las Vegas, a pair of researchers demonstrated how a femtocell, which is essentially a small cell-phone tower that enhances wireless signals in areas with weak coverage, can be hacked. Several vendors offer femtocells (the Black Hat example was demonstrated on a Verizon femtocell), and when activated, it will connect with all phones that share the carrier. After gaining access to a femtocell’s operating system, the researchers could intercept texts, phone calls, and even clone cell phones.

Of course, Verizon immediately patched this vulnerability, but once Adana read about this startling presentation and knew it was conceptually possible, he says it was the hack he most wanted to showcase on Mr. Robot. “I knew I wanted to do something with a femtocell delivery hack,” he says, “but I couldn’t find a good place to do it that first season.” He continues, “It is really scary. Carriers don’t allow you to control which tower you want to connect to, and when your phone haphazardly connects to rogue femtocells, you become extremely vulnerable.”

It is likely, though, that even if a possible plotline existed for a femtocell attack last season, Adana wouldn’t have been able to pull it off. Adana was just one of two tech consultants who worked with the writing staff and the show’s animators, and he just didn’t have the bandwidth to construct the story line. “It is impossible for one person to handle all of these details,” he says. By now, Mr. Robot’s commitment to technical accuracy and authenticity is near legendary. “The show is always open to evolving,” says Ryan Kazanciyan, a chief security architect who works at the cybersecurity firm Tanium. “Even if the change is an incidental one, or something needs to be rewritten during preproduction, Sam wants to make sure that if you were to freeze frame and tweet a screen shot, the tech will hold up to any security expert who might scrutinize it.”

Kazanciyan was one of the consultants brought on for the second season, along with security experts Marc Rogers, James Plouffe, and Andre McGregor (Michael Bazzell, the other consultant who worked with Adana last year, also remained on staff). To orchestrate a hack of the FBI, one that included several steps that needed to be streamlined for audiences unfamiliar with cantennas (which Darlene installs after she breaks into the hotel room) or Kali Linux — a toolkit that combines everything a hacker might need, including Wi-Fi analyzers, password crackers, and vulnerability scanners — this expansion of the team was crucial. “For all of our hacks, I assign them different elements of the hack to research, and then I'll compile those details together and work with an animator to recreate them in a realistic way that fits our show,” says Adana.

Adam Penn, a writer for the show who penned this episode’s script, was also itching to include a hack of this magnitude. “We knew where we needed this story line to end up,” he says, “and the arc narratively has been building to this hack.” When Penn and the other writers sketch out the show’s more complicated hacks, they’ve found it is easier, and more realistic, to reverse engineer the hack. “We like to start at the finish line and work backwards,” says Penn.

Adana first pitched using a femtocell to hack the FBI while he sat in writing sessions this past winter: “Kor got really excited and thought using the femtocell would be a good device that isn't used a lot in film and television,” says Penn. “If I know it is possible, even if I don’t have the details to back it up, I’ll pitch it,” Adana explains. “The writers will ask questions. Sam kept asking whether this is really possible, and if it only targeted specific phones, but otherwise, I don’t get very technical with the writers. We want to make it easy for everyone, from the studio to the cast and crew, to understand, but honestly, this idea scared the shit out of them.”

The team got to work: Rogers was responsible for the Android remote-execution exploit code as well as the WRT interface script that runs when logged onto the femtocell; McGregor’s responsibility included the hack’s physical logistics — whether or not Angela needed to carry a UPS battery backup, and how she would find an open port; while Kazanciyan acted as the episode’s fact checker, freeze framing and reviewing every command prompt and onscreen detail.

As the consultants researched how to streamline a complex hack into less than ten minutes of air time, Adana continuously met with Penn as he revised the script, updating the dialogue and adding more technical complexities. The scene involving Angela’s prep with Mobley in the smart house was rewritten several times before Penn and Adana felt comfortable with it enough to submit it to the rest of the writers for notes. “We have to get across information that is highly technical that a lot of people won't naturally understand, and present it in a way that is understandable,” says Penn. “A few times, Adana mentioned, ‘No, he would never say it like this, he would say this instead.’”

Though the femtocell was unique to audiences, the hack’s highlight was Darlene’s use of a Wi-Fi network, which gives her remote access to the data dump and total control of the E Corp system (which is why, when the Wi-Fi goes down, she is unable destroy the video footage of Angela planting the femtocell).

Because of the nature of the filming schedule, there’s also the issue of timeliness — the vulnerability that Elliot exploited had been patched earlier this year and is no longer an issue for Android users — but Adana mitigated any concerns by using some of the most advanced tech in the information-security community. From the Magspoof (which Darlene uses to clone the hotel employee’s key card) to the Signal messaging system (the “marble cake” code Angela receives) to Kali Linux, this hack was a primer for the latest and greatest tools currently in use.

To convey the enormity of something this complex, it would take pages of dialogue, but Penn and Esmail realized an audience might best understand the intricacies by filming it in a single take. It is a technique the two had originally intended to use during season one’s Steel Mountain hack, but they realized that since that hack was contained to just one floor, it would be much more manageable and wouldn’t necessarily need a single take to simplify it. Esmail, who is directing every episode this season, drew inspiration from Paul Thomas Anderson’s famous one-take pool scene inBoogie Nights. “The energy, the music, and the camera work reminded me of that scene, and when I asked Sam, he said he had it in mind,” says Penn.

While this hack wasn’t code-heavy — a treat for Reddit boards and forums to analyze and discuss — it effectively demonstrated how easy it is to compromise both a network and a government agency with a few tools.Like all tech on Mr. Robot, the femtocell attack was rooted in reality, and as the show has introduced several attacks — Ashley Madison, hacking a Jeep — to a worldwide audience during this first season, Adana hints a similar instance could occur with femtocells. “I was at this year’s Def Con [a hacking conference], and I had to turn my phone on airplane mode because there were rogue femtocells all over the place,” he cautions. “This is how prevalent an attack is out there.”
 
Man that shit was so DISTURBING
like really
the first 20 minutes i felt uneasy and disturbed while watching it. It was...really unsettling. REALLY like man
And Ray?
It's best you don't even know he exists.
 
Man that shit was so DISTURBING
like really
the first 20 minutes i felt uneasy and disturbed while watching it. It was...really unsettling. REALLY like man
And Ray?
It's best you don't even know he exists.

I was speechless...re winded it TWICE

my brain locked...it was like a sensory overload.

and like I said before Ray?

If he don't get that Emmy?

man listen....

sidebar:

He exists

whether its in Elliot's mind or not

Ray is REAL.
 
I was speechless...re winded it TWICE

my brain locked...it was like a sensory overload.

and like I said before Ray?

If he don't get that Emmy?

man listen....

sidebar:

He exists

whether its in Elliot's mind or not

Ray is REAL.

I'm going to watch it again at my own risk.
The intro's got to me
Man
When she was dying over her dead father and then the camera went to her and she HAD to put on a smile cause that's what you do when the camera comes to you no matter what it is you're doing?
 
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