23-year-old Korryn Gaines was murdered by Baltimore County police, PIGS DELETED HER SOCIAL MEDIA ...

This is disgusting.
Wonder if the media will pick up on this.
you know how they have their moments to showcase "race issues"
RIP baby-girl!​
 
Man watching this video, she either isn't wrapped too tight or she was believing the bullshit someone told her.

The first cop was actually respectful.

Then she got out the car

As a mother you need to protect your kids first. She's talking about they're going to have to kill me and telling her kid to fight. Man :smh:

Kidnap me?
You will have to kill me today in front of my kids?

So she's going to leave her kids motherless :smh:

All of this over them wanting to tow your car?

This broad isn't a hero and shouldn't be mentioned in the same breath as Tamir Rice, Philano Castile or Eric Gardner

I will say, there's no telling how you'd react to police CONSTANTLY fucking with you over some bullshit to the point it pisses you off.

There's her way to handle it, which is confront them
And there's the Castro way to handle it, non confronting them and being respectful and by the book with no talk back.
In both cases they ended up dead
so...
 
Question is why is police sent to her house over an outstanding traffic ticket? A violation in the VTL of MD..

What was the reason they really came over there? Only thing I can think is she was moving weight for them.. Saw some shit go down she wasn't suppose to see or testifying against someone on the department..

Wilmer Leon said earlier the story is they were there for her BF who ran out the back with the baby. None of this shit is making any sense.
 
She was willing to die for what she believed.
She did not want to be taken alive :(
Clearly, she was mentally unstable :smh:
 
RIP to the young sista and expedient recovery for her son.

If we ain't talking black nationalism/pan africanism then we are not serious about reclaiming our natural place on this earth. Our ancestors are crying out to us to save this world from destruction.
 
I don't care...
where are the negotiators?
once they found out she had her kid with her,
they should have mediated the situation...
but then again, she had warrants from traffic violations!
#MenaceToSociety
RIGHT!!!​
 
Yes, driving around with a cardboard sign for your license plate is agains the law.

Did you watch the video of her traffic stop?

If so please tell me what she did correct besides stopping.

If you didn't see the video:



Chick was 100% in the wrong and she put herself as well as her two kids in harms way.

This has what to do with them killing her in her house and erasing the evidence?
 
she was 1,000% in the wrong here.
if wrong is not following the law.

but really what she was doing was standing up to who she saw as her enemy.
chick was a warrior. she said her family knew they were gonna kill her.
her son is gonna be a warrior too. bet that...

this is all sad...
I grow up and find out police killed my mom. I will join military, get paid for the training I want, join police and do my work slow and untraceable.
 
It appears to me (im no expert) that she is some sort of foreign national. In order to not participate in the constitution she has to denounce her citizenship. If you go that route you have to be able to state the clauses and basically let the cops kno you kno more than them about the subject. She knew enough to piss them off more.

Example: Instead of saying I dont participate. Explain to him why you dont have to participate. Also kno they are gonna fuck with you and you need to be able to get yourself out of jail and even a lawyer until its all figured out. Kinda like when someone fucks with you and you knock them out cold then the cops show up. U goin to jail......but all charges will likely be dropped. Just saying "he started it" aint enough.

She needed to be better versed. However, they didnt have to kill her and shoot her kid.
 
It appears to me (im no expert) that she is some sort of foreign national. In order to not participate in the constitution she has to denounce her citizenship. If you go that route you have to be able to state the clauses and basically let the cops kno you kno more than them about the subject. She knew enough to piss them off more.

Example: Instead of saying I dont participate. Explain to him why you dont have to participate. Also kno they are gonna fuck with you and you need to be able to get yourself out of jail and even a lawyer until its all figured out. Kinda like when someone fucks with you and you knock them out cold then the cops show up. U goin to jail......but all charges will likely be dropped. Just saying "he started it" aint enough.

She needed to be better versed. However, they didnt have to kill her and shoot her kid.

Yea that's could be the case...

I been going back and forward about making a thread on that matter(there is one, where very few laws don't apply to them) it but still undecided
 
All u pretty have to say....

I'm part of the Bgol might whatever...your name
 
http://wtop.com/maryland/2016/08/social-media-deactivated-during-police-standoff-with-woman/

Social media deactivated during police standoff with woman



BALTIMORE (AP) — In the midst of a five-hour standoff that turned deadly, Facebook granted an emergency request from the Baltimore County Police Department to take offline the social media accounts belonging to a woman who wielded a shotgun at officers.

Baltimore County Police officers shot and killed Korryn Gaines, 23, after she barricaded herself inside her Randallstown apartment with her 5-year-old son and pointed a shotgun at officers attempting to serve an arrest warrant.

Police Chief Jim Johnson said Tuesday that the department made the emergency request to have Gaines’ social media accounts suspended after she posted videos online showing the standoff. People who saw the postings, Johnson said, responded by encouraging her to not to comply with police.

Videos posted on Facebook and Instagram appeared to show Gaines, who was black, talking with police in the doorway to her apartment and to her son during the standoff. In one, she asks her son what the police are trying to do.

“They trying to kill us,” the boy says.

“Do you want to go out there?”

“No,” he says.

The standoff Monday began after three officers went to Gaines’ apartment to serve arrest warrants on her and her boyfriend, Kareem K. Courtney, 39, according to police. He left the apartment with a 1-year-old boy before the standoff and was arrested.

Gaines’ bench warrant stemmed from charges during a March 10 stop, including disorderly conduct and resisting arrest. Authorities said she was armed with a 12-gauge pistol grip shotgun that was legally purchased last year and toward the end of the negotiations pointed it directly at an officer and said, “If you don’t leave, I’m going to kill you.”

An officer shot at her and Gaines fired two shots, but missed the officers, who returned fire and killed her, police said.

Gaines also posted videos from the March traffic stop on her Instagram account. Police said she was pulled over because instead of a license plate, she had a cardboard tag that said: “Any government official who compromises this pursuit of happiness and right to travel will be held criminally responsible and fined, as this is a natural right and freedom.”

During the stop, she said officers were trying to “steal her car,” that she wasn’t complying with officers’ “criminal” way. She said they would have to “murder” her to get her out of her car, according to court documents.

Officers said she had to be pulled from the car and repeatedly yelled “record this” as a crowd of people gathered while police were arresting her.

Facebook has restored Gaines’ social media pages, but a pair of videos that violated Facebook’s standards have been blocked from public view.

According to the tech company’s policies, requests from law enforcement to suspend accounts may be granted in cases where there is a substantial risk of harm. The police chief said county police based their de-activation request on the fact that there was a barricade involving someone with a gun, and that a child was present.

According to a Facebook Government Request Report, the company received roughly 855 requests for emergency disclosures of information to government agencies due to the threat of harm or violence between July and December 2015. About 73 percent of those requests were granted.

The boy is in good condition at a hospital. Police are not sure whether he was hit by gunfire or shrapnel.

Gaines’ boyfriend is charged with second-degree assault, which stems from a fight with Gaines, police said. He has been released on his own recognizance.

The department did not release the names or races of the officers involved, who were placed on administrative leave. Their first initials and last names will be released 48 hours after the shooting, in accordance with the department’s contract with the Fraternal Order of Police.

The department is bringing body cameras online but none of the officers had one.

Court documents show that Gaines filed a lawsuit against a former landlord, alleging that she was lead poisoned. The suit said Gaines was “exposed to a sea of lead” as a child, which contributed to “neurodevelopmental disabilities or injuries.”

A medical expert who evaluated Gaines wrote that she “had a history of problems with anger and impulsive behavior,” and visited her school counselor on several occasions. The suit identifies Gaines’ father as Ryan Gaines, a police dispatcher.

Baltimore City Schools spokeswoman Edie House-Foster confirmed Tuesday that Gaines was a 2010 graduate of one of the city’s best magnet high schools, Baltimore City College.

Gaines’ uncle Jerome Barnett told The Baltimore Sun that Gaines “was feisty, but she was smart and she was respectful.”
 
Couple of things...
Cops with no body cameras :smh:... With her history you'd think the first thing they would want to do is cover their asses... Matter of fact if it wasn't for her video this shit would have be a lot bigger than what it is..
He using her children as a shield is not cool. Being a warrior is one thing, but you lose all respect from me hiding behind children...
Whats up with the boyfriend did he start to realize she was kind of off and tried to stop her, if so why was he charged with assault especially when he was the one who got the 1 year old out of the crib... BTW why didn't he go for the other kid, was he threatened or perhaps didn't give a fuck...
 
Watch the video, this isn't where she was killed.

This was her escalating an issue with some of the most patient, almost pussy cops I've ever seen in my life.

I'm reserving judgement on her encounter she had that cost her life however this traffic stop I can't cosign.

She comes off in the traffic stop video as someone that isn't stable or living in reality.

I repeat, watch the traffic stop video.

"Police said the officer reported that the cardboard on the back of the car said, "Any government official who compromises this pursuit to happiness and right to travel, will be held criminally responsible and fined, as this is a natural right and freedom." The piece of cardboard on the front of Gaines' car had "Free traveler" written on it, police said."

Last video I saw with someone pulling that sovereign citizen bullshit they got fucked up.


Yup
 
Using her kids as a shield was never something this woman did. That would imply she was hiding behind them.
She wanted her kids on the front line w/ her, ready to die at war with her. I don't agree with it but thats a big difference from hiding behind shit.

My guess is the boyfriend tried to convince her to run out the back w/ him and when she wldnt, took his kid and bounced. Got caught outside...

Let's not get it twisted, she is every bit nuts but that's cuz she was living every day like she was at WAR with an enemy that had plans to taker her out and we don't know the extent she was being bullied by cops. We just saw those 2 interactions.

She had more heart than a little bit. Cops knew that too. RIP.
You do not have kids especially one year old in the front line with you to die...:smh: Plus when she was in the car she unstrapped the baby from the back using her as a shield just in case the cops tased her or try to drag her out... At that point it was no fight, it was her hiding behind her children .....
Just imagine the outcry if a black male were to try some shit like that...
 
I said I dont agree w/ her but no she was never hiding behind the baby or son. She was spending what she thought was her last minutes with her kids. Look at the video again. She was preparing to die during that traffic stop. At no point was she looking for any protection from anyone. Chick was all offense, no defense.

Huge difference.
So if she was preparing to die why involve your kids??? Plus did she die then??? No so in actuality all that shit was in her head and as the result she put her children in harms way...
I had a crazy ass Aunt in L.A. who was like that, always swearing up and down that the people who played their music loud was trying to kill her or drive her crazy, where she would get into dangerous confrontations with people minding their business but in her mind trying to kill her..
 
I agree with you Rage. Maybe she didn't intentionally try to hide behind her kids but that is essentially what she was doing. You not even giving your kids a chance out here doing that. Shit was incredibly reckless.

The way she was acting.... Getting your car towed isn't the worst thing in the world. It's certainly not worth risking your life or your kids life.
 
Watch the video, this isn't where she was killed.

This was her escalating an issue with some of the most patient, almost pussy cops I've ever seen in my life.

I'm reserving judgement on her encounter she had that cost her life however this traffic stop I can't cosign.

She comes off in the traffic stop video as someone that isn't stable or living in reality.

I repeat, watch the traffic stop video.

"Police said the officer reported that the cardboard on the back of the car said, "Any government official who compromises this pursuit to happiness and right to travel, will be held criminally responsible and fined, as this is a natural right and freedom." The piece of cardboard on the front of Gaines' car had "Free traveler" written on it, police said."

Last video I saw with someone pulling that sovereign citizen bullshit they got fucked up.



Yeah this shit right here wasn't necessary. I don't know what went down on the day of her death but in this video she comea across reckless and unstable. You don't have a tag on your car. Your shit gets towed.

I don't know where this is at but on Texss you pull that shit you go to jail. They gave her the pass and was just gonna tow the car? This chic mentally wasn't right in this video.
 
So if she was preparing to die why involve your kids??? Plus did she die then??? No so in actuality all that shit was in her head and as the result she put her children in harms way...
I had a crazy ass Aunt in L.A. who was like that, always swearing up and down that the people who played their music loud was trying to kill her or drive her crazy, where she would get into dangerous confrontations with people minding their business but in her mind trying to kill her..

The way she was acting in that video was like she wanted to die. Shit was wild. I hate the kids no longer have a mother. I admired how she was teaching her kids and son to stand up for themselves and not be fearful. But the other stuff I just can't agree with.
 
Yeah this shit right here wasn't necessary. I don't know what went down on the day of her death but in this video she comea across reckless and unstable. You don't have a tag on your car. Your shit gets towed.

I don't know where this is at but on Texss you pull that shit you go to jail. They gave her the pass and was just gonna tow the car? This chic mentally wasn't right in this video.
Yeah a woman supposed to be feminine not masculine. Priorities were all fucked up. Not having her car towed was more important then her child
 
It appears to me (im no expert) that she is some sort of foreign national. In order to not participate in the constitution she has to denounce her citizenship. If you go that route you have to be able to state the clauses and basically let the cops kno you kno more than them about the subject. She knew enough to piss them off more.

Example: Instead of saying I dont participate. Explain to him why you dont have to participate. Also kno they are gonna fuck with you and you need to be able to get yourself out of jail and even a lawyer until its all figured out. Kinda like when someone fucks with you and you knock them out cold then the cops show up. U goin to jail......but all charges will likely be dropped. Just saying "he started it" aint enough.

She needed to be better versed. However, they didnt have to kill her and shoot her kid.

I discovered late last year one of my closest friends starting getting into Sovereignty really hard. We barely talk these days due to a number of reasons, one being (he hasn't said this, but I believe) he is intentionally distancing himself from others not "in the know." He has become hermit like, barely coming out of the house,has a cell phone, never answers or checks the messages....I have to go to him in person if I ever want to talk to him....shit bothers the fuck outta me.... last month was maybe the second time we've talked all year...but he seems happy.

back to relating to the story
he got pulled over and ticketed twice that i know of. ....interestingly enough after going to court and fighting the first incident, that city gave him a small check....not sure what he said, but it seems as though his knowledge of how that works was greater than hers....maybe if she had a better mentor on the inside she wouldn't have been so quick to be ready to die......

he hasn't had his 2nd court date yet, but he is confident he will win that one as well...

sn: after the 2nd ticket incident he put the ohio tags back on to reduce his presence on the police radar, i know he's been pulled over for the tags more than the 2 times, but he's only been cited twice. and as far as I know he turned in his Ohio Driv license a while back along with his SS card and BC....

Yeah this shit right here wasn't necessary. I don't know what went down on the day of her death but in this video she comea across reckless and unstable. You don't have a tag on your car. Your shit gets towed.

I don't know where this is at but on Texas you pull that shit you go to jail. They gave her the pass and was just gonna tow the car? This chic mentally wasn't right in this video.

the buddy I mentioned earlier took the tags off his car for a while and had it replaced with some "cardboard" Sovereign tag. I use " " because cardboard is just fine for 30 day temp tags that mfkrs can get renewed for up to 6 months, but in the article it seems criminal to use a tag made out of cardboard...all states use cardboard or even stock damn paper if you're getting vanity plates, but the focus should be on it didn't say what they wanted it to say.


The shit coming out about Facebook should be a warning. They will comply with pigs to cut off live streams. It's clear that the community needs a social network that is controlled by the community.

true because imagine if Diamonds social media presence was cut during the incident with Philando...or better yet, when it was restored, that whole video / live stream never existed in public view...it would be just her words (like so many others) against the spotless and faultless police / police union......
 
http://wtop.com/maryland/2016/08/social-media-deactivated-during-police-standoff-with-woman/

Social media deactivated during police standoff with woman



BALTIMORE (AP) — In the midst of a five-hour standoff that turned deadly, Facebook granted an emergency request from the Baltimore County Police Department to take offline the social media accounts belonging to a woman who wielded a shotgun at officers.

Baltimore County Police officers shot and killed Korryn Gaines, 23, after she barricaded herself inside her Randallstown apartment with her 5-year-old son and pointed a shotgun at officers attempting to serve an arrest warrant.

Police Chief Jim Johnson said Tuesday that the department made the emergency request to have Gaines’ social media accounts suspended after she posted videos online showing the standoff. People who saw the postings, Johnson said, responded by encouraging her to not to comply with police.

Videos posted on Facebook and Instagram appeared to show Gaines, who was black, talking with police in the doorway to her apartment and to her son during the standoff. In one, she asks her son what the police are trying to do.

“They trying to kill us,” the boy says.

“Do you want to go out there?”

“No,” he says.

The standoff Monday began after three officers went to Gaines’ apartment to serve arrest warrants on her and her boyfriend, Kareem K. Courtney, 39, according to police. He left the apartment with a 1-year-old boy before the standoff and was arrested.

Gaines’ bench warrant stemmed from charges during a March 10 stop, including disorderly conduct and resisting arrest. Authorities said she was armed with a 12-gauge pistol grip shotgun that was legally purchased last year and toward the end of the negotiations pointed it directly at an officer and said, “If you don’t leave, I’m going to kill you.”

An officer shot at her and Gaines fired two shots, but missed the officers, who returned fire and killed her, police said.

Gaines also posted videos from the March traffic stop on her Instagram account. Police said she was pulled over because instead of a license plate, she had a cardboard tag that said: “Any government official who compromises this pursuit of happiness and right to travel will be held criminally responsible and fined, as this is a natural right and freedom.”

During the stop, she said officers were trying to “steal her car,” that she wasn’t complying with officers’ “criminal” way. She said they would have to “murder” her to get her out of her car, according to court documents.

Officers said she had to be pulled from the car and repeatedly yelled “record this” as a crowd of people gathered while police were arresting her.

Facebook has restored Gaines’ social media pages, but a pair of videos that violated Facebook’s standards have been blocked from public view.

According to the tech company’s policies, requests from law enforcement to suspend accounts may be granted in cases where there is a substantial risk of harm. The police chief said county police based their de-activation request on the fact that there was a barricade involving someone with a gun, and that a child was present.

According to a Facebook Government Request Report, the company received roughly 855 requests for emergency disclosures of information to government agencies due to the threat of harm or violence between July and December 2015. About 73 percent of those requests were granted.

The boy is in good condition at a hospital. Police are not sure whether he was hit by gunfire or shrapnel.

Gaines’ boyfriend is charged with second-degree assault, which stems from a fight with Gaines, police said. He has been released on his own recognizance.

The department did not release the names or races of the officers involved, who were placed on administrative leave. Their first initials and last names will be released 48 hours after the shooting, in accordance with the department’s contract with the Fraternal Order of Police.

The department is bringing body cameras online but none of the officers had one.

Court documents show that Gaines filed a lawsuit against a former landlord, alleging that she was lead poisoned. The suit said Gaines was “exposed to a sea of lead” as a child, which contributed to “neurodevelopmental disabilities or injuries.”

A medical expert who evaluated Gaines wrote that she “had a history of problems with anger and impulsive behavior,” and visited her school counselor on several occasions. The suit identifies Gaines’ father as Ryan Gaines, a police dispatcher.

Baltimore City Schools spokeswoman Edie House-Foster confirmed Tuesday that Gaines was a 2010 graduate of one of the city’s best magnet high schools, Baltimore City College.

Gaines’ uncle Jerome Barnett told The Baltimore Sun that Gaines “was feisty, but she was smart and she was respectful.”
So, Facebook was in on that bullshit, she couldn't go FACEBOOK LIVE to expose the pigs.....
 
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The shit coming out about Facebook should be a warning. They will comply with pigs to cut off live streams. It's clear that the community needs a social network that is controlled by the community.
I said this shit months ago. Zuckerberg controls all the content and distribution. These people are worse than the government.
 
the pigs KNEW she was on facebook.... wtf...

it obvious they were stalking her....

but not for nothing...

her boyfriend aint shit.....

he was supposed to make sure the children were all right leave them with an aunt or relative.

an he was supposed to stay there and deal with the consenquences with his girlfriend...

it appears he was encouraging her behaviour then when she went down he was like ok... I wish you the best... later..

if that was my girl in that situation.. first off we wouldnt be in that situation but if we were...

she would NOT be going through this alone....

pigs are murdering stalking savages...

but her boyfriend is a certified bitch!!!!
 
In some cities the cops will target you and fuck with you on some low level bullying shit. We know she was suing the cops so that was due to at least at least one other confrontation. They took her tags off her car. So that's 2 situations. She got stopped for not having tags (her fault) but that's 3 situations. They served her the warrants where they killed her. That's at least 4 police interactions in a short time frame. They were probably making her life a living hell. She was suffering from ptsd, no different than a paranoid desert storm war vet.

You're asking me why she involved her kids like you can't read. I said (3x) that I don't agree with her involving her kids but her reasoning from what I can see was she's trying to raise kids that directly confront their oppressors. I'm sure guys like you can armchair quarterback the shit forever but I think she wanted to raise kids that were gonna grow up to be the opposite of that.

She made a ton of mistakes but they did not have to kill her. They brought her the drama that they knew she was looking for. They knew how she rolled and created a situation where they could giver her what she was asking for.

that right there....if she was barricaded in and such a threat, why was buddy in full swat gear just chilling in the doorway for so long and at times caught standing there not looking in her direction and with no weapon drawn?!!...when does SWAT just come in and decide there's no need for negotiations or make an effort to DE-escalate a situation. WE HAVE SEEN ON FILM 3 direct instances where cops escalated a situation to then deem the situation life threatening in order to use deadly force. In the caae of Eric Garner, he was talking calmly to the cops, shit went left when the cop decided to jump on his back and apply the chokehold. Alton Sterling, again he appeared to be talking calmly until he was tackled by one cop and then restrained by the other.....and finally Tamir Rice....the police drive up less than 3 feet from him, claim their lives were in danger and they had no choice but to shoot.....all 3 incidents are clear violations of police SOP...and out of all three incidents not one officer faced any type of prosecution or damage to their personnel file.
 
the pigs KNEW she was on facebook.... wtf...

it obvious they were stalking her....

but not for nothing...

her boyfriend aint shit.....

he was supposed to make sure the children were all right leave them with an aunt or relative.

an he was supposed to stay there and deal with the consenquences with his girlfriend...

it appears he was encouraging her behaviour then when she went down he was like ok... I wish you the best... later..

if that was my girl in that situation.. first off we wouldnt be in that situation but if we were...

she would NOT be going through this alone....

pigs are murdering stalking savages...

but her boyfriend is a certified bitch!!!!

mfkr made sure to grab HIS and that he and HIS kid were safe....he shouldn't have even let her get into that situation but if you're taking your kid out, damn mfkr grab the other one too!!

if i'm the other BD.....me and this dude are now at "ON, SIGHT*" status... meaning if I see you, it's on bitch!
gonna grab your damn kid, but leave mine to get shot at/up?!!!! yeah, ok

*make sure to clap your hands to separate each syllable
 
This has what to do with them killing her in her house and erasing the evidence?


Shows she isn't stable, escalated an issue that wasn't an issue (that she caused) with her two children and seems to have death wish.

I'm not going to pass judgement on these cops who had a five hour standoff, who called her parents to help get her out.

Whose bf ran out the house with their one year old while she was broadcasting live on FB what in her mind was going on.


I'd like to see whatever footage the police have for transparency but this is probably a case where we're going to look foolish trying to stick up for her.
 
Shows she isn't stable, escalated an issue that wasn't an issue (that she caused) with her two children and seems to have death wish.

I'm not going to pass judgement on these cops who had a five hour standoff, who called her parents to help get her out.

Whose bf ran out the house with their one year old while she was broadcasting live on FB what in her mind was going on.


I'd like to see whatever footage the police have for transparency but this is probably a case where we're going to look foolish trying to stick up for her.

Not if you attack the right points. This can be used to show how pigs need more training to deal with mentally unstable individuals. Just admit she wasn't all there and show how supposed 'professionals' made the situation worse. She needed help and the system failed her. :smh:
 
Not if you attack the right points. This can be used to show how pigs need more training to deal with mentally unstable individuals. Just admit she wasn't all there and show how supposed 'professionals' made the situation worse. She needed help and the system failed her. :smh:
If you have a kid in the house it makes a big difference. I'm interested to see what the boyfriend who escaped with the 1 year old has to say about the young woman's mental state. At least all of the babies are ok.
 
Not if you attack the right points. This can be used to show how pigs need more training to deal with mentally unstable individuals. Just admit she wasn't all there and show how supposed 'professionals' made the situation worse. She needed help and the system failed her. :smh:

I honestly don't believe that police officers should be mentally unstable individuals.

They should provide support for whomever is trained for dealing with people that have disabilities but they should be the first line of people called.

I agree that she wasn't all the way there however I don't agree that the professionals made it worse.

I can't say they made it worse until the videos of the officers are released if they ever are.

The one thing I can say for certain is that in the traffic stop that she posted, she was the one that made the situation worse after the cops acted EXTREMELY professional.

She even comes off as an attention whore in the traffic stop video.

From what I saw in the traffic stop video wanted to die at the hands of cops for whatever reason and us capping for her is a step backwards.

Anybody that intentionally puts their children in harms way gets no benefit of the doubt from me.
 
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