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From the same man who jumped teams to try to win a chip:smh:

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Charles Barkley doesn't like that Kevin Durantis jumping on the Golden State Warriors' "gravy train" to win a title and doesn't think he's a "bum" because he didn't "cheat" his way to one in his career.

Durant chose to sign a two-year deal with the Warriors this week after nine seasons with the Oklahoma City Thunder that netted him seven All-Star Games, one MVP and one NBA Finals appearance but no championship.

"I was disappointed. I was disappointed like I was disappointed when LeBron went to Miami," Barkley said on ESPN Radio's "Mike and Mike" on Wednesday. "Kevin is a terrific player, he's a good kid. But just disappointed with the fact that he weakened another team and he's gonna kind of gravy train on a terrific Warriors team. Just disappointed from a competitive standpoint. Because just like it meant more to LeBron to win one in Cleveland, it would mean more to Kevin to win one in Oklahoma than it would be in Golden State."

Philadelphia 76ers, Phoenix Suns and Houston Rockets. He was an All-Star 11 times but only made the Finals once, in his 1992-93 MVP season, losing to Michael Jordan's Chicago Bulls in six games.

Barkley headlines a long list of NBA greats who have never won a championships -- players such as Elgin Baylor, Karl Malone, John Stockton, Patrick Ewing, Dominique Wilkins, George Gervin, Allen Iverson and Reggie Miller. Barkley, who is now a TNT analyst, doesn't think it makes them lesser players.

"We develop this thing where you keep telling these guys, 'Hey man, if you don't win a championship you're a bum.' I don't feel like a bum," he said. "I'm pretty sure Patrick Ewing, Karl Malone and John Stockton -- we think we're pretty damn good. We could have played with some of those other guys and kind of cheated our way to a championship. But there is this thing that started with this new generation where these guys feel so much pressure. Everybody wants to win.

"I'm a big Chris Paul fan. I'm sure Chris Paul wants to win a championship. And he could, when his contract is up, go join one of these super teams and get a championship. But it won't be the same as leading your team where you're the bus driver instead of the bus rider."

Durant joins two-time MVP Stephen Curry, Klay Thompson, Draymond Green and Andre Iguodala, a core that won 73 games in the regular season but lost in the NBA Finals to LeBron James and the Cleveland Cavaliers. The team Durant leaves, the Thunder, had the Warriors on the ropes in the Western Conference Finals, leading 3-1 before dropping the last three games. The Thunder are now left wondering if they're good enough to win it all and whether they should consider trading superstar Russell Westbrook before he can leave as a free agent after next season.

Barkley doesn't like this whole process.

"We're gonna have guys on bad teams making $25 million a year. And we're going to have three or four competitive teams," Barkley said. "That's the negative of LeBron going to Miami, KD going to Golden State.

"First of all the fans love their teams, they love sports. But they're not going to go see Sacramento, Indiana, Miami, these bad teams where guys are making 10, 20, 30 million dollars a year and they don't have a chance to compete. I mean, that's where we're going. We're going to kill the golden goose. Everybody's going to be making a lot of money, but other than five teams we're going to be putting a shabby product out there. That's what's going to kill the NBA in the next few years in my opinion."

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Gonna be interesting to watch the trajectory of the careers of Barnes and Durant from here in out. If it goes in anyway short of exactly how we expect, there will be no shortage of stories written on the moves.

Let the Mavs and the sheep tell it Barnes about to be a star.

18ppg+ this season

I'll believe it when I see it
 
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"We develop this thing where you keep telling these guys, 'Hey man, if you don't win a championship you're a bum.' I don't feel like a bum," he said. "I'm pretty sure Patrick Ewing, Karl Malone and John Stockton -- we think we're pretty damn good. We could have played with some of those other guys and kind of cheated our way to a championship. But there is this thing that started with this new generation where these guys feel so much pressure. Everybody wants to win.

Charles blame "your good friend" Michael Jordan's faggot ass fans and Kobe Bryant's groupies for that notion. Prior to them moving that goal post to shit on LeBron we could appreciate stars who never won a ring like yourself, Reggie, Ewing, Iverson, etc. But in their zeal to cupcake and protect the volume shooter's legacies they've shitted on so many great players indirectly. Now anybody who has less rings than LeBron aint shit to me. He's the barometer for success and failure. Thats the damage they've done. They created this pressure were guys feel like if they dont win 3 rings they career aint mean shit. Look at Dirk Nowitzki, he got 1 ring in 19 years and his career is a dissapointment to most. :lol:
 
From the same man who jumped teams to try to win a chip:smh:

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Charles Barkley doesn't like that Kevin Durantis jumping on the Golden State Warriors' "gravy train" to win a title and doesn't think he's a "bum" because he didn't "cheat" his way to one in his career.

Durant chose to sign a two-year deal with the Warriors this week after nine seasons with the Oklahoma City Thunder that netted him seven All-Star Games, one MVP and one NBA Finals appearance but no championship.

"I was disappointed. I was disappointed like I was disappointed when LeBron went to Miami," Barkley said on ESPN Radio's "Mike and Mike" on Wednesday. "Kevin is a terrific player, he's a good kid. But just disappointed with the fact that he weakened another team and he's gonna kind of gravy train on a terrific Warriors team. Just disappointed from a competitive standpoint. Because just like it meant more to LeBron to win one in Cleveland, it would mean more to Kevin to win one in Oklahoma than it would be in Golden State."

Philadelphia 76ers, Phoenix Suns and Houston Rockets. He was an All-Star 11 times but only made the Finals once, in his 1992-93 MVP season, losing to Michael Jordan's Chicago Bulls in six games.

Barkley headlines a long list of NBA greats who have never won a championships -- players such as Elgin Baylor, Karl Malone, John Stockton, Patrick Ewing, Dominique Wilkins, George Gervin, Allen Iverson and Reggie Miller. Barkley, who is now a TNT analyst, doesn't think it makes them lesser players.

"We develop this thing where you keep telling these guys, 'Hey man, if you don't win a championship you're a bum.' I don't feel like a bum," he said. "I'm pretty sure Patrick Ewing, Karl Malone and John Stockton -- we think we're pretty damn good. We could have played with some of those other guys and kind of cheated our way to a championship. But there is this thing that started with this new generation where these guys feel so much pressure. Everybody wants to win.

"I'm a big Chris Paul fan. I'm sure Chris Paul wants to win a championship. And he could, when his contract is up, go join one of these super teams and get a championship. But it won't be the same as leading your team where you're the bus driver instead of the bus rider."

Durant joins two-time MVP Stephen Curry, Klay Thompson, Draymond Green and Andre Iguodala, a core that won 73 games in the regular season but lost in the NBA Finals to LeBron James and the Cleveland Cavaliers. The team Durant leaves, the Thunder, had the Warriors on the ropes in the Western Conference Finals, leading 3-1 before dropping the last three games. The Thunder are now left wondering if they're good enough to win it all and whether they should consider trading superstar Russell Westbrook before he can leave as a free agent after next season.

Barkley doesn't like this whole process.

"We're gonna have guys on bad teams making $25 million a year. And we're going to have three or four competitive teams," Barkley said. "That's the negative of LeBron going to Miami, KD going to Golden State.

"First of all the fans love their teams, they love sports. But they're not going to go see Sacramento, Indiana, Miami, these bad teams where guys are making 10, 20, 30 million dollars a year and they don't have a chance to compete. I mean, that's where we're going. We're going to kill the golden goose. Everybody's going to be making a lot of money, but other than five teams we're going to be putting a shabby product out there. That's what's going to kill the NBA in the next few years in my opinion."

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Phoenix was not a ready-made championship squad. They had good to decent players, but lets not act like they were overwhelming favorites from the day he signed.

With the Rockets, he was no longer the player he was. He was good, but he was no longer Charles Barkley, the dominant All-Star PF.

I don't care about players not in their prime doing the shit. Its not going to be viewed the same, anyway.
 
Sources: Ray Allen eyeing Warriors, Cavs, Spurs, Clippers


Ray Allen, one of the greatest shooters in NBA history, is considering making a comeback, according to league sources.

Allen's representatives recently reached out to the Golden State Warriors and Cleveland Cavaliers, sources told ESPN, about the possibility of Allen joining the two conference champions.

The Warriors are unsure whether they want to pursue the future Hall of Famer, sources said. Allen's contact with the Cavs was first reported by Cleveland.com.

Allen, who will turn 41 on July 20, is also not absolutely sure he wants to return after sitting out the past two seasons. But he is intrigued by the possibility of playing for another championship, and in addition to the Warriors and Cavs, he would consider joining the San Antonio Spurs and Los Angeles Clippers, sources said.

Miami Heat in 2013-14, his final season.

Allen averaged 18.9 points over his career and shot 40 percent from the 3-point line. The 10-time All-Star won championships with Boston in 2008 and Miami in 2013.

In 2013, Allen salvaged the title hopes ofLeBron James, Dwyane Wade and the Heat by making a game-tying 3-pointer with 5.2 seconds left in regulation to force overtime against San Antonio in Game 6 of the NBA Finals. Miami went on to win the series in seven games.
Why?
 
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Robert Pack admits current NBA players have it much better now than when he played


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On the first day of NBA free agency this past Friday more than $1.7 billion was handed out in contract offers.

It has been huge contracts galore, which includes Memphis Grizzlies point guard Mike Conley agreeing to a five-year, $153 million contract and former Pelicans backup forward Ryan Anderson accepting the Houston Rockets' four-year, $80 million contract. Small forward Solomon Hill, who started only three games last season and averaged 4.2 points with Indiana, got a four-year, $52 million contract offer from the Pelicans.




With the amount of substantial contracts extended by teams, Pelicans assistant coach and New Orleans native Robert Pack, 47, wished he was 20 years younger so he could be part of this current era of NBA players.


Pack, entering his second season on Alvin Gentry's coaching staff, played in the NBA as a point guard from 1991 to 2004. During the 2002-03 season, Pack played in 28 games for the then-New Orleans Hornets.

''I had that conversation with my mom, I was born too early,'' said Pack, who is the head coach of the Pelicans' summer league team that opens on Friday in Las Vegas against the Lakers. ''I talked last night about that. It's a good time to be a player.''

Pack was a member of the 1991-92 Portland Trail Blazers that advanced to the NBA Finals before losing to the Michael Jordan-led Chicago Bulls. Pack also was a member of the 1993-94 Denver Nuggets that made NBA history as the first No. 8 seed to a defeat a No. 1 seed (Seattle Supersonics) in the first round of the playoffs.

Pack totaled just more than $23 million during his entire 13-year career. As a rookie in 1991-92 with the Trail Blazers, Pack made $130,000. He landed his biggest contract with the Nuggets when he made $4.3 million in 2000-01.

Pelicans star forward Anthony Davis will earn $22.1 million this upcoming season in the first year of his five-year extension, according to Spotrac.

''I hope the guys continue to get paid, but continue to respect the game, play hard and give the fans what they pay for.''




In Pack's heyday, the Cleveland Cavaliers had the highest payroll in the league at $23.7 million in 1993-94 and Nuggets' payroll totaled $17.3 million with center Dikembe Mutombo drawing the highest salary on the team at $3 million.


The NBA announced this past Saturday that the salary cap for the 2016-17 season will be set at $94.1 million. The minimum payroll for the league's 30 teams is $84.7 million.




The salary cap and luxury tax have soared because starting with the 2016-17 season, the NBA's new nine-year, $24 billion TV deal begins. This past season's salary cap was $70 million and luxury tax threshold was $84.7 million. For this upcoming season, the luxury tax threshold will be $133.2 million.


''The game has definitely grown,'' said Pack, who was former high school star at Lawless before playing in college in USC. ''Monetarily the guys have been able to benefit a lot better now.''


Robert Pack's injured ass had it pretty good too. Stole some money from the Mavs.
 
Yep. I guess he's saying it doesn't count because he didn't actually win a championship :lol:
Real convenient for him to forget that fact. Drexler did the same shit, but he got his ring with the Rockets, otherwise, he would join the ignominious list of Barkley, Ewing, Stockton and Malone.
 
Let the Mavs and the sheep tell it Barnes about to be a star.

18ppg+ this season

I'll believe it when I see it

I still remember how he was his rookie year in the post season....dude was killing it. This offense.....I don't think Carlislie wants a main guy. Let Barnes develop into a main option. As of right now he's the best scorer we have on the team. Not the best shooter but the best scorer. He can score all all over the floor.

I'll say at worst he's going to be a 10-12 point per game scorer.....at best he's a 16-18. Would be nice to get better.
 
He will be an improvement over Parsons.... You know that cac trash when even the cac Mavs and his butt boy Cubs let him walk.

Yep and they were willing to give Parsons the max this summer had he not got hurt again so either way this money was going to be spent Barnes should be an upgrade
 
Real convenient for him to forget that fact. Drexler did the same shit, but he got his ring with the Rockets, otherwise, he would join the ignominious list of Barkley, Ewing, Stockton and Malone.

And Barkley and Malone sure tried to get that ring too team hopping....I don't know what the hell Ewing was trying to do at the end of his career.....
 
I still remember how he was his rookie year in the post season....dude was killing it. This offense.....I don't think Carlislie wants a main guy. Let Barnes develop into a main option. As of right now he's the best scorer we have on the team. Not the best shooter but the best scorer. He can score all all over the floor.

I'll say at worst he's going to be a 10-12 point per game scorer.....at best he's a 16-18. Would be nice to get better.

Dude can't dribble but he was the top prospect coming out of high school and a top 10 pick in the draft. Has shown flashes and has a lot of postseason experience at a young age. Hopefully he branches out and gets better.
 
Dude can't dribble but he was the top prospect coming out of high school and a top 10 pick in the draft. Has shown flashes and has a lot of postseason experience at a young age. Hopefully he branches out and gets better.

Naw he can't but his handles are good enough. He's almost like how Michael Finley was when he was here. Probably the best comparison I can think of. Parsons had handles on him. I'll say that. Both love to pump fake to death for whatever reason. Well I get why Barnes does because that's how he has to create his own shot.
 
And Barkley and Malone sure tried to get that ring too team hopping....I don't know what the hell Ewing was trying to do at the end of his career.....
Oh yeah. Mailman went to the Lakers with The Glove who was also chasing a ring when they had that Dream Team situation in LA. GP eventually got one at the end of Miami's bench.

Chuck needs to shut the fuck up. He has that selective amnesia when it comes to his contemporaries.
 
Ewing got traded Knicks did him wrong

He wasn't ring chasing
The year Ewing hurt his wrist was the year they played the Spurs for the chip. Ewing came back and if I remember, dude wanted to get paid. Ewing was always more concerned about paper than rings. He got shipped off to Seattle and that was that.
 
Ewing got traded Knicks did him wrong

He wasn't ring chasing

How he end up in Orlando then lol? Like I said I don't really know what he was doing at the end of his career. I know Magic had T-Mac and a injured Grant but I don't know if he thought he had a shot with them or what.
 
Oh yeah. Mailman went to the Lakers with The Glove who was also chasing a ring when they had that Dream Team situation in LA. GP eventually got one at the end of Miami's bench.

Chuck needs to shut the fuck up. He has that selective amnesia when it comes to his contemporaries.

I be laughing at these old heads because THEY WERE THE ONES who started that ring chasing. They go back to "Oh Bird and MJ would've never done this....." yeah but their peers sure as hell did it.
 
I still remember how he was his rookie year in the post season....dude was killing it. This offense.....I don't think Carlislie wants a main guy. Let Barnes develop into a main option. As of right now he's the best scorer we have on the team. Not the best shooter but the best scorer. He can score all all over the floor.

I'll say at worst he's going to be a 10-12 point per game scorer.....at best he's a 16-18. Would be nice to get better.


Man when you think about this...it's crazy
 
I be laughing at these old heads because THEY WERE THE ONES who started that ring chasing. They go back to "Oh Bird and MJ would've never done this....." yeah but their peers sure as hell did it.[/QUOTE]


:lol: this some funny shit
 
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