NBA Offseason 2016 - FreeAgency money dried up...Waiters gets $2.6 after OKC pulled $6+ offer...
Dude at the end of the day I don't blame NONE of these dudes for doing this shit! Even if LeBron colluded, that was his right and the system allowed it. He had went as far as he could in Cleveland the first time around.
KD, the same thing IMO. He signed a damn extension with the team, shit didn't work out, so he bounced.
That's why you have Barkley and fools like him still salty, because they don't have chips. Shit, people feel like him going to GS was a bitch move, cool. I actually see it differently, Dude HAS to win, the pressure is ENORMOUS on him and if he fails, nothing else he's done in his career will be able to negated the L that's going to follow him around. If he does win, he doesn't get any credit, unless he's clearly the best player on the court and wins the Finals MVP or some shit.. Even then its diluted..
Kerr, Curry, and the crew stay winning though...
KD follow Lebron path...give it your all to the team that drafted you, sign a extension, give it your all then bounced when u have a chance
Damn... Jordan WAS mad the Bulls were fucking with his money! 
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/...ulls-free-agents-allan-houston-scottie-pippen
Nearly A Knick
How New York Almost Lured Michael Jordan, And Could It Happen Again?
August 13, 1997|By Sam Smith.
The Bulls decided not to trade Scottie Pippen.
And they rehired coach Phil Jackson and appear willing to agree to Jackson's request that they re-sign Dennis Rodman.
So it's expected that Michael Jordan re-signs with the Bulls.
But under the same conditions last season, Jordan indicated he was prepared to leave the Bulls and sign with the New York Knicks.
Is it possible that could happen this time?
As the Bulls and Jordan prepare for what most believe will be a routine negotiation and resumption of the Bulls' dynasty, here's the untold story of how Jordan almost left the Bulls last summer. It comes from insiders with knowledge of the negotiations on both sides.
Jordan, who was paid his basketball salary of $8 million during an absence of almost two years in which he tried to play baseball, was finally coming to the end of an eight-year contract that was groundbreaking in sports when he signed it.
Effective with the start of the 1988-89 season, the contract paid Jordan $25 million over the eight years.
It was the only time in his tenure with the Bulls that Chairman Jerry Reinsdorf has torn up an existing contract and given a player an immediate raise.
But with exorbitant rookie contracts prompting an unprecedented salary escalation in the early 1990s, Jordan's deal quickly became outdated.
The Bulls, under previous collective bargaining rules, were willing to extend Jordan's contract to match the big new ones, but they refused to tear up the contract again.
Jordan didn't want an extension or a "balloon" payment, so he played out the eight-year deal. And while he didn't speak openly about its unfairness, he made his feelings known to management, promising they would not get off easily in the next negotiation.
So how did they settle on a $30 million contract after Jordan had floated a trial balloon of $18 million during the 1995-96 playoffs?
At the time, Knicks center Patrick Ewing was playing a "balloon" season of $18 million, then the biggest one-year deal in NBA history.
That's where Jordan started, and the Bulls were prepared to go to $20 million for one season as a sort of a one-year payback to Jordan for the previous seasons when he was "underpaid."
But in stepped those dreaded Knicks, then owned by a partnership between ITT-Sheraton and Cablevision Inc.
The Knicks had maneuvered themselves well below the salary cap--about $12 million--and eventually signed free agents Allan Houston, Chris Childs and Buck Williams
But the initial target was Jordan.
"We told them they could have all our cap room," Madison Square Garden President Dave Checketts acknowledged.
But the talk was of a $25 million deal.
The key was ITT, which is now out of the picture in New York with Cablevision having extended its ownership share to about 90 percent of the Knicks and Madison Square Garden.
ITT owned the Sheraton hotel chain, and the plan hatched by Jordan's agent, David Falk, was to get Jordan the Knicks' $12 million in salary-cap money and perhaps another $15 million for being a spokesman for such ITT companies as Sheraton.
The NBA usually regards such outside arrangements as salary-cap avoidance, and any money paid in that manner counts against a team's cap--unless it can be shown that the player's market value as a spokesman is that high.
Because Jordan is such a huge commercial presence, his status was considered unique, and the NBA was prepared to allow the separate deal without the money counting against the Knicks' cap.
The Bulls argued with the league, but Commissioner David Stern's traditional reluctance to cut off such commercial opportunities changed the parameters of the Jordan negotiations.
The Bulls had believed no team could pay Jordan more than $10 million, perhaps $12 million, so their thinking was he had to return for their offer, whether it was $15 million, $18 million or $20 million.
That led up to an infamous phone call, supposedly from Falk to Reinsdorf.
Although neither side would reveal the exact wording, the message was clear: The Bulls had one hour, maybe the rest of the day, to beat a $25 million offer from the Knicks, or Michael Jordan was going to sign with New York.
Was it a bluff?
Would Jordan have left Chicago, with Jackson having re-signed and the team coming off a championship, to go play in New York?
It doesn't seem likely, and some people close to Jordan say he would never leave Chicago.
But the Bulls were not willing to take the chance.
They knew the $25 million offer was a possibility because of the outside money from ITT.
The Knicks could well pay Jordan $25 million.
And Jordan said that with Ewing, he could win another title.
And how embarrassing would that be for the Bulls?
So they came up with the $30 million offer, and Jordan signed.
But Jordan was privately angered that such a threat had to be made for the Bulls to meet his price.
The Bulls believed they were doing their part by making Jordan the highest paid player in the history of American team sports.
Jordan believed the Bulls were not showing the proper appreciation and respect by making him go out and get a better offer to push his deal higher.
How close did Jordan actually come to leaving?
No one will ever know for sure.
But it is against that backdrop that Jordan and the Bulls begin talking about another deal, a deal that is hardly assured just because Jackson and Pippen remain on board.
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/...ulls-free-agents-allan-houston-scottie-pippen
Nearly A Knick
How New York Almost Lured Michael Jordan, And Could It Happen Again?
August 13, 1997|By Sam Smith.
The Bulls decided not to trade Scottie Pippen.
And they rehired coach Phil Jackson and appear willing to agree to Jackson's request that they re-sign Dennis Rodman.
So it's expected that Michael Jordan re-signs with the Bulls.
But under the same conditions last season, Jordan indicated he was prepared to leave the Bulls and sign with the New York Knicks.
Is it possible that could happen this time?
As the Bulls and Jordan prepare for what most believe will be a routine negotiation and resumption of the Bulls' dynasty, here's the untold story of how Jordan almost left the Bulls last summer. It comes from insiders with knowledge of the negotiations on both sides.
Jordan, who was paid his basketball salary of $8 million during an absence of almost two years in which he tried to play baseball, was finally coming to the end of an eight-year contract that was groundbreaking in sports when he signed it.
Effective with the start of the 1988-89 season, the contract paid Jordan $25 million over the eight years.
It was the only time in his tenure with the Bulls that Chairman Jerry Reinsdorf has torn up an existing contract and given a player an immediate raise.
But with exorbitant rookie contracts prompting an unprecedented salary escalation in the early 1990s, Jordan's deal quickly became outdated.
The Bulls, under previous collective bargaining rules, were willing to extend Jordan's contract to match the big new ones, but they refused to tear up the contract again.
Jordan didn't want an extension or a "balloon" payment, so he played out the eight-year deal. And while he didn't speak openly about its unfairness, he made his feelings known to management, promising they would not get off easily in the next negotiation.
So how did they settle on a $30 million contract after Jordan had floated a trial balloon of $18 million during the 1995-96 playoffs?
At the time, Knicks center Patrick Ewing was playing a "balloon" season of $18 million, then the biggest one-year deal in NBA history.
That's where Jordan started, and the Bulls were prepared to go to $20 million for one season as a sort of a one-year payback to Jordan for the previous seasons when he was "underpaid."
But in stepped those dreaded Knicks, then owned by a partnership between ITT-Sheraton and Cablevision Inc.
The Knicks had maneuvered themselves well below the salary cap--about $12 million--and eventually signed free agents Allan Houston, Chris Childs and Buck Williams
But the initial target was Jordan.
"We told them they could have all our cap room," Madison Square Garden President Dave Checketts acknowledged.
But the talk was of a $25 million deal.
The key was ITT, which is now out of the picture in New York with Cablevision having extended its ownership share to about 90 percent of the Knicks and Madison Square Garden.
ITT owned the Sheraton hotel chain, and the plan hatched by Jordan's agent, David Falk, was to get Jordan the Knicks' $12 million in salary-cap money and perhaps another $15 million for being a spokesman for such ITT companies as Sheraton.
The NBA usually regards such outside arrangements as salary-cap avoidance, and any money paid in that manner counts against a team's cap--unless it can be shown that the player's market value as a spokesman is that high.
Because Jordan is such a huge commercial presence, his status was considered unique, and the NBA was prepared to allow the separate deal without the money counting against the Knicks' cap.
The Bulls argued with the league, but Commissioner David Stern's traditional reluctance to cut off such commercial opportunities changed the parameters of the Jordan negotiations.
The Bulls had believed no team could pay Jordan more than $10 million, perhaps $12 million, so their thinking was he had to return for their offer, whether it was $15 million, $18 million or $20 million.
That led up to an infamous phone call, supposedly from Falk to Reinsdorf.
Although neither side would reveal the exact wording, the message was clear: The Bulls had one hour, maybe the rest of the day, to beat a $25 million offer from the Knicks, or Michael Jordan was going to sign with New York.
Was it a bluff?
Would Jordan have left Chicago, with Jackson having re-signed and the team coming off a championship, to go play in New York?
It doesn't seem likely, and some people close to Jordan say he would never leave Chicago.
But the Bulls were not willing to take the chance.
They knew the $25 million offer was a possibility because of the outside money from ITT.
The Knicks could well pay Jordan $25 million.
And Jordan said that with Ewing, he could win another title.
And how embarrassing would that be for the Bulls?
So they came up with the $30 million offer, and Jordan signed.
But Jordan was privately angered that such a threat had to be made for the Bulls to meet his price.
The Bulls believed they were doing their part by making Jordan the highest paid player in the history of American team sports.
Jordan believed the Bulls were not showing the proper appreciation and respect by making him go out and get a better offer to push his deal higher.
How close did Jordan actually come to leaving?
No one will ever know for sure.
But it is against that backdrop that Jordan and the Bulls begin talking about another deal, a deal that is hardly assured just because Jackson and Pippen remain on board.
Yep... Dont fault him at all...
It makes sense for Bron.. It would be the ultimate give back for when Wade opted out and left money on the table thinking Bron would come back and he left.. And like the tweet said, in the scheme of things, $20 mill paycut for him aint shit.. His issue is not having the money go back in Dan Gilbert pocket... Im certain he has no problem giving it to Wade.
Damn... Jordan WAS mad the Bulls were fucking with his money!
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/...ulls-free-agents-allan-houston-scottie-pippen
Nearly A Knick
How New York Almost Lured Michael Jordan, And Could It Happen Again?
August 13, 1997|By Sam Smith.
The Bulls decided not to trade Scottie Pippen.
And they rehired coach Phil Jackson and appear willing to agree to Jackson's request that they re-sign Dennis Rodman.
So it's expected that Michael Jordan re-signs with the Bulls.
But under the same conditions last season, Jordan indicated he was prepared to leave the Bulls and sign with the New York Knicks.
Is it possible that could happen this time?
As the Bulls and Jordan prepare for what most believe will be a routine negotiation and resumption of the Bulls' dynasty, here's the untold story of how Jordan almost left the Bulls last summer. It comes from insiders with knowledge of the negotiations on both sides.
Jordan, who was paid his basketball salary of $8 million during an absence of almost two years in which he tried to play baseball, was finally coming to the end of an eight-year contract that was groundbreaking in sports when he signed it.
Effective with the start of the 1988-89 season, the contract paid Jordan $25 million over the eight years.
It was the only time in his tenure with the Bulls that Chairman Jerry Reinsdorf has torn up an existing contract and given a player an immediate raise.
But with exorbitant rookie contracts prompting an unprecedented salary escalation in the early 1990s, Jordan's deal quickly became outdated.
The Bulls, under previous collective bargaining rules, were willing to extend Jordan's contract to match the big new ones, but they refused to tear up the contract again.
Jordan didn't want an extension or a "balloon" payment, so he played out the eight-year deal. And while he didn't speak openly about its unfairness, he made his feelings known to management, promising they would not get off easily in the next negotiation.
So how did they settle on a $30 million contract after Jordan had floated a trial balloon of $18 million during the 1995-96 playoffs?
At the time, Knicks center Patrick Ewing was playing a "balloon" season of $18 million, then the biggest one-year deal in NBA history.
That's where Jordan started, and the Bulls were prepared to go to $20 million for one season as a sort of a one-year payback to Jordan for the previous seasons when he was "underpaid."
But in stepped those dreaded Knicks, then owned by a partnership between ITT-Sheraton and Cablevision Inc.
The Knicks had maneuvered themselves well below the salary cap--about $12 million--and eventually signed free agents Allan Houston, Chris Childs and Buck Williams
But the initial target was Jordan.
"We told them they could have all our cap room," Madison Square Garden President Dave Checketts acknowledged.
But the talk was of a $25 million deal.
The key was ITT, which is now out of the picture in New York with Cablevision having extended its ownership share to about 90 percent of the Knicks and Madison Square Garden.
ITT owned the Sheraton hotel chain, and the plan hatched by Jordan's agent, David Falk, was to get Jordan the Knicks' $12 million in salary-cap money and perhaps another $15 million for being a spokesman for such ITT companies as Sheraton.
The NBA usually regards such outside arrangements as salary-cap avoidance, and any money paid in that manner counts against a team's cap--unless it can be shown that the player's market value as a spokesman is that high.
Because Jordan is such a huge commercial presence, his status was considered unique, and the NBA was prepared to allow the separate deal without the money counting against the Knicks' cap.
The Bulls argued with the league, but Commissioner David Stern's traditional reluctance to cut off such commercial opportunities changed the parameters of the Jordan negotiations.
The Bulls had believed no team could pay Jordan more than $10 million, perhaps $12 million, so their thinking was he had to return for their offer, whether it was $15 million, $18 million or $20 million.
That led up to an infamous phone call, supposedly from Falk to Reinsdorf.
Although neither side would reveal the exact wording, the message was clear: The Bulls had one hour, maybe the rest of the day, to beat a $25 million offer from the Knicks, or Michael Jordan was going to sign with New York.
Was it a bluff?
Would Jordan have left Chicago, with Jackson having re-signed and the team coming off a championship, to go play in New York?
It doesn't seem likely, and some people close to Jordan say he would never leave Chicago.
But the Bulls were not willing to take the chance.
They knew the $25 million offer was a possibility because of the outside money from ITT.
The Knicks could well pay Jordan $25 million.
And Jordan said that with Ewing, he could win another title.
And how embarrassing would that be for the Bulls?
So they came up with the $30 million offer, and Jordan signed.
But Jordan was privately angered that such a threat had to be made for the Bulls to meet his price.
The Bulls believed they were doing their part by making Jordan the highest paid player in the history of American team sports.
Jordan believed the Bulls were not showing the proper appreciation and respect by making him go out and get a better offer to push his deal higher.
How close did Jordan actually come to leaving?
No one will ever know for sure.
But it is against that backdrop that Jordan and the Bulls begin talking about another deal, a deal that is hardly assured just because Jackson and Pippen remain on board.
from what I quickly read...seems like a behind the scenes ploy to get chicago to ante up...anyway it never happened so the "comparison" is moot
Man i forgot about this shit. Has me over here crying! Air was mad as fuck!
Lets see if Bronze hooks D Wade up for that hoe shit he pulled on him 2 years ago.
Any time any situation where a player leaves or threatens to leave over money I don't blame them one bit
Fuck these owners who try to lowball their stars when they are the ones making them the money
Fuck these owners who try to lowball their stars when they are the ones making them the money
Durant could've made more with OKC. Something like 250mil over 5
And Jordan fans that act like that tend to not be from Chicago or Wilmington, NC but places like Texas, California, and New York
It was a bitch move. Kinda like him threatening retirement if Scottie wasnt brought back. But its MJ so his bitchassness gets a pass.
Exactly... Dude kill me with that shit! KD>>>>>>
If Durant wins a ring then bounces are you gonna be mad.
Heat need to move McBob then they can give Wade 2 for 50
No way would I be mad. That's silly and selfish he didn't have to come here. He chose to I'm thankful he wants to try and win here and if he bolts cause he got a ring and goes back to okc or anywhere else, I'm not going to have any hard feelings towards durant I'm just going to be happy that I saw him in a warriors jersey.
The only problem I have is that if he went anywhere else people would say it's ok. If he went to the spurs then they'd say its a power move and it was a good job not realizing that the warriors and okc don't have a long ass rivalry lol. This was the 1st time this core played in the playoffs against each other.
The spurs were the team that grandson'd him but it would be ok to join them though they coming off a year where they had 65 fucking wins.
That's my only gripe. I get it too. And I'm absolutely OK with it too.
Right
Any time you leave your original team you leave money on the table
I'm talking about situations where the team doesn't want to pay
Come on man they full of shit. KD ain't no rookie. He's been in the league 9 years......he sure as hell tried to beat his competitors.
its fake. staying put shit died with k.g. he was the last one.
Stephen A done pissed Durant off!! 
???????Stephen A done pissed Durant off!!
KD put in a good effort man. If KD would've stayed in college 4 years he would essentially be leaving the Thunder at around 32-34 years old. These complaints are full of shit and trying to re-write KD to make him out to be this villain. I get Draymon but the media and league will fail at trying to make these dudes out to be villains. They don't have the traits other than Draymon.
They going to have to give up Wiggins/Dunn or KAT/Dunn plus next years draft picks for Russ.
I think they like Dunn and his potential so they don't even make that move
nah its coming. and its ok. they all need to grow out their goatees and just embrace the hate cause its coming. they signed up for it. well k.d. signed up for it. no escaping now. no man westbrook this or that now. joining a team that was 4 points away from back to back you gotta win.
so im not trying to build in any escapes. i will say nothing is guaranteed cause that's how i roll and believe you gotta go earn it. so this crowning of best assembled and playing wise and all of that stuff...no. not until they do it on the court then we can judge.
but i think he'll love it in oakland. absolutely love it here. the love he'll get around actual black people will probably make him not want to leave.
klay thompson lived by the lake during his rookie contract. i ran into that nigga several times at merrit bakery and all of that shit. cool ass dude. i didn't hound him just was saying normal shit hang in there.. yall good. blah blah and he never tried to play the star..
i can see kevin being that kind of dude here as well.
oh 1 time i did tell him he had to learn how to dribble he shrugged and laughed at me like
nah its coming. and its ok. they all need to grow out their goatees and just embrace the hate cause its coming. they signed up for it. well k.d. signed up for it. no escaping now. no man westbrook this or that now. joining a team that was 4 points away from back to back you gotta win.
so im not trying to build in any escapes. i will say nothing is guaranteed cause that's how i roll and believe you gotta go earn it. so this crowning of best assembled and playing wise and all of that stuff...no. not until they do it on the court then we can judge.
but i think he'll love it in oakland. absolutely love it here. the love he'll get around actual black people will probably make him not want to leave.
klay thompson lived by the lake during his rookie contract. i ran into that nigga several times at merrit bakery and all of that shit. cool ass dude. i didn't hound him just was saying normal shit hang in there.. yall good. blah blah and he never tried to play the star..
i can see kevin being that kind of dude here as well.
oh 1 time i did tell him he had to learn how to dribble he shrugged and laughed at me like
These gonna be the worst villains of all time lol. Everyone loves these dudes lol. Except Draymon. The Splash brothers and KD.......i'm sure whenever KD jersey goes on sell its gonna be #1. These are like the least hateable stars in the league lol.
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