NBA Offseason 2016 - FreeAgency money dried up...Waiters gets $2.6 after OKC pulled $6+ offer...

Well at least Rondo will get rid of Hoiberg.


Based off the cap..and what other players are getting...Rondo for 14 aint THAT BAD, imho. He can still ball! He's fast paced and he can dish the ball. He fits the type of offense that the Bulls want to run. Butler wont have to worry about sharing the ball as much as he did with Rose...because Rondo would rather drive and dish.

My only issue with him is his character. Do the Bulls have the right people to control him? Or will the change of scenery help him out?
We'll see...

They still have money to work with.

http://www.spotrac.com/nba/chicago-bulls/cap/

But look for them to start shedding money during next season. Pax and them already said that want more money to work with.
 
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"West also told Durant that playing alongside the Warriors' star trio of Stephen Curry, Klay Thompson and Draymond Green would make it much easier on him. West opined that in Oklahoma City, most of Durant's shot attempts are difficult and contested.

He told Durant, a career 27.4 point scorer, that his points would come much easier in Golden State, suggesting it would take fewer shots to score the same amount of points he always has.

Finally, West pointed out to Durant how he believes his overall game is overlooked in Oklahoma City. While Durant is known as one of the greatest scorers of all-time, he does not receive much credit for his rebounding - he led the Thunder with 8.2 boards per game last season - and defense.

West said if Durant goes to a team with other great scorers and wins championships, the other parts of his game will receive recognition and he'll be known as a great all-around player rather than just a great scorer.

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/1...-west-calls-pitches-kevin-durant-joining-team
 
Just trying to read into the situation.

If he chooses Boston it is safe to say he really wanted to get out of OKC and their were some underlying issues that we may never find out about in OKC. To trade Westbrook and Adams for Hortford and Isiah Thomas sees like a step back to me.

Choosing GSW is all about winning and I can't fault anyone for taking advantage to play with Curry, Klay, and Draymond.

Leaving OKC means that Westbrook had to be like "Bro do you because I can't promise you I will resign"

So other than GSW, Durant must have grown tired of something internal with OKC. Maybe him and Westbrook were not that close. Or Westbrook was like he is out.


Yup you covered pretty much everything
 
My only issue with him is his character. Do the Bulls have the right people to control him? Or will the change of scenery help him out?
We'll see...

Nope.

Rondo is going to be Rondo. Nobody's going to change that.

I don't think he and Taj would get along, if Taj is still there before the season starts.

I don't know if Hoiberg could handle a sociopath like Rondo.

He and Jimmy might work, tho.

But I'm expecting a disaster of a season.

Another one of those "not good enough to make the playoffs, not bad enough to tank", treading water seasons.
 
I don't think he and Taj would get along, if Taj is still there before the season starts.



Taj will get traded. Thats already the plan.

As for Rondo, look at what he's done/does; 14 for a player like him..considering the cap..aint bad at all. Especially when compared to what all these no names are a getting. His character is a bigger issue than his contract, imho. But we'll see how it goes. Despite his funny ways, he still managed to have solid seasons almost every year. And if he does act up, 2 years 28 mills is a VERY tradable contract. Imho...they just using him to get by; hoping that Grant or that Dinwinddle dude develop in the process.

As for next year...we werent gonna make any noise anyways. But I honestly cant see them tanking. Gar and Pax cant afford to tank; Job security reasons. I think the Owners will give them 2-3 years to fix it. If nothing starts rolling by 2017-2018...then thats when youll start hearing about the coach, GM etc losing their jobs.
 
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Shit wide open to me. I like the Celtics chances the best because of their defense but all of the team are mysteries. Raptors really dropped the ball this offseason. Biyombo is replacable but he looked legit with their center went down.


Y'all still got y'all picks right? I wish I was in y'all spot. I'd be ok with being ASS for another year or two. Its the right move. PEople are impatient but the right move for y'all is to suck again. Let the young guys develop. Like the Celtics for instance. They got good too fast. They should've been ASS for one more year and they would've had two top 5 picks in this draft. Could've kept them or had some ammunition to get Jimmy Butler.
Yup. Got Lakers top 3 protected pick next year as well as the right to swap with the Kings next year. Also the Kings 1st round unprotected pick for 2019 as well. Lakers pick becomes unprotected in 2018. That's a good spot to be in with a young team coming together. :dance:

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wtf is this?

Jailed Chicago gangbanga Rondo #9. All his friends will now have something to wear to honor him while he faces murder charges. That black & red dont match his gang tho....maybe theyll wear the St. Patrick's Day green jerseys.
 
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Like Most...you think Love is gone as well....

Love isnt trash....imho. He did give the Cavs ALMOST 20 and 10 over the last two years. That shit in the playoffs is what got folks disgusted. If they do trade, they should be able to get something nice for him in return. They need a solid 2 way player.

I just seen something suggesting that the Celtics would trade a few players to get Kevin Love IF they dont get Durant. Regardless of what happens in Boston, their future is VERY bight. They have so much young talent. Danny's doing a great job....imho

Boston and then the Pacers are my two East teams that made the best moves. I would pick the Knicks, they have a nice line up as well, but as of right now their squad is old/temp fix. Despite not having titles, most of the Knicks top talents already made their footprints in the NBA. That hunger aint there.

If KD signs with the Warriors then the Cavs have to trade Love for Carmello and offer a contract to D Wade. They will have to match fire power. Love and Mello contracts should be closed to a wash plus the Cavs should some change with Mozgov , dellavadova and Richard Jefferson gone. Keep Shumpert and JR Smith and sign Roy Hibbert to veteran minimum as a backup center.
Lineup
Irving
Wade
Carmello
James
Thompson
Bench
JR Smith
Iman Shubert
Channing Frye
Roy Hibbert
Kay felder
Joe Harris
James Jones ( LeBron's decision)
 
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If KD signs with the Warriors then the Cavs have to trade Love for Carmello and offer a contract to D Wade. They will have to match fire power. Love and Mello contracts should be closed to a wash plus the Cavs should some change with Mozgov , dellavadova and Richard Jefferson gone. Keep Shumpert and JR Smith and sign Roy Hibbert to veteran minimum as a backup center.
Lineup
Irving
Wade
Carmello
James
Thompson
Bench
JR Smith
Iman Shubert
Channing Frye
Roy Hibbert
Kay felder
Joe Harris
James Jones ( LeBron's decision)

You can't be serious.
 
Taj will get traded. Thats already the plan.

As for Rondo, look at what he's done/does; 14 for a player like him..considering the cap..aint bad at all. Especially when compared to what all these no names are a getting. His character is a bigger issue than his contract, imho. But we'll see how it goes. Despite his funny ways, he still managed to have solid seasons almost every year. And if he does act up, 2 years 28 mills is a VERY tradable contract. Imho...they just using him to get by; hoping that Grant or that Dinwinddle dude develop in the process.

As for next year...we werent gonna make any noise anyways. But I honestly cant see them tanking. Gar and Pax cant afford to tank; Job security reasons. I think the Owners will give them 2-3 years to fix it. If nothing starts rolling by 2017-2018...then thats when youll start hearing about the coach, GM etc losing their jobs.

Rondo's 2nd year will be an option year. I'm glad GarPax wasn't that stupid.

I say - Let Rondo act an ass if he wants to, trade Taj for a first round draft pick, and let this wash season be over with quickly.

Fuck it, 2017, only Butler and Lopez on the books, we'll have a gang of cap space and a better FA pool.

Only thing interesting about this season will be which rookie contract guys will step up to stay with the team.
 
Grades: Chicago Bulls unwise to buy into Rajon Rondo’s heavy baggage

http://www.si.com/nba/2016/07/03/nba-free-agency-rajon-rondo-chicago-bulls-grades

Another year, another desperate front office talks into itself into taking on Rajon Rondo’s considerable baggage.

The Bulls agreed to sign Rondo, an unrestricted free agent point guard, to a two-year deal worth $28 million, according to ESPN.com and NBA.com. The second year of the deal is reportedly partially guaranteed. Rondo, 30, averaged 11.9 PPG and a league-leading 11.7 APG in Sacramento last season, but the volatile floor general clashed with former coach George Karl, drew a suspension for targeting a referee with an anti-gay slur and led the Kings to just 33 wins. The four-time All-Star will step in to fill the void created by Chicago’s pre-draft trade of Derrick Rose to New York.

To anyone paying attention, and to any front office with a reasonable solution at point guard, Rondo is no longer worth the hassle. Although he shot a career-best 36.5% on threes and posted a respectable 16.9 Player Efficiency Rating for the Kings, he again failed to translate his own individual production into team success. Sacramento’s offensive efficiency rating was higher with Darren Collison on the court rather than Rondo, in large part because the latter is a flow-killer thanks to his ball-stopping and a floor-cramper thanks to his shaky jumper and reluctance to attack the hoop in search of his own offense.

Defensively, Rondo hardly resembles the player who earned four All-Defensive selections while in Boston. He alternates between reckless gambling and inexplicable ambivalence, ranking 30th among point guards in Defensive Real Plus-Minus and posting a terrible 106.8 Defensive Rating for a Kings defense that ranked 23rd in Defensive Efficiency. Chicago’s other top point guard option, the 34-year-old Jose Calderon, played such poor defense last season that it was the subject of tabloid headlines. Nevertheless, Calderon posted better marks in both DRPM and Defensive Rating than Rondo. That’s remarkable and, frankly, tragic.
Even Rondo’s most stubborn apologists—those who delude themselves into thinking his triple doubles are significant, point out that his numbers have recovered since a serious knee injury in 2013 and buy into the notion that he’s merely “eccentric”—had to question their support during his ugly incident with referee Bill Kennedy last December. Not only did Rondo cross way over the line during the confrontation with Kennedy that led to his ejection, he first issued a muddled statement that fell short of an apology. Finally, after ducking the media and setting off a firestorm of criticism, Rondo issued a second statement that included an apology.

The Kennedy episode was the latest example of Rondo being his own worst enemy. At the end of the 2014–15 season, Rondo bailed on the Mavericks during the middle of a playoff series after butting heads with coach Rick Carlisle at multiple points during the season. Before that, Rondo drew three suspensions in 2012 (for throwing a ball at a referee, for making contact with a referee and for engaging in a fight) and another a suspension in 2013 (for bumping a referee again). While Rondo was a key member of the Celtics’ 2008 title team, doing very well to keep a loaded cast of stars on track, he hasn’t played in a postseason win since 2012.


Carlisle ultimately won the power struggle in Dallas, as the Mavericks moved on in quick fashion, while Karl did not, as he failed to survive the Kings’ chemistry mess last season. Now Rondo enters a Bulls team in transition, one that has lost Rose and Joakim Noah and will almost certainly lose Pau Gasol too. Second-year coach Fred Hoiberg failed to establish a coherent identity or style in his disappointing first season, and now he will be at the mercy of Rondo’s domineering inconsistency. What’s more, Jimmy Butler, who never struck the right balance with Rose once he ascended to All-Star status, must now make it work with Rondo, an even more difficult task.
Chicago made the right call in moving on from Rose, as a split was best for both parties, but Bulls management clearly stumbled by not having a workable backup plan in place. Asking Rondo to carry a weakened roster, mesh with Butler and see eye-to-eye with Hoiberg, whose easy-going personality came under scrutiny last year, is begging for disaster.

Defenders of this move will point to the fact that the Bulls can simply part ways with Rondo next summer. As the Kings discovered during their circus of a season, it’s never quite that simple, is it? SI.com gave Sacramento an “F” last summer for its decision to ink Rondo, and nothing that has happened since then indicates Chicago deserves more favorable treatment.

The occasional breathtaking assist simply comes at too high of a cost. Even Vlade Divac managed to figure that out.

Grade: F
 
Grades: Chicago Bulls unwise to buy into Rajon Rondo’s heavy baggage

http://www.si.com/nba/2016/07/03/nba-free-agency-rajon-rondo-chicago-bulls-grades

Another year, another desperate front office talks into itself into taking on Rajon Rondo’s considerable baggage.

The Bulls agreed to sign Rondo, an unrestricted free agent point guard, to a two-year deal worth $28 million, according to ESPN.com and NBA.com. The second year of the deal is reportedly partially guaranteed. Rondo, 30, averaged 11.9 PPG and a league-leading 11.7 APG in Sacramento last season, but the volatile floor general clashed with former coach George Karl, drew a suspension for targeting a referee with an anti-gay slur and led the Kings to just 33 wins. The four-time All-Star will step in to fill the void created by Chicago’s pre-draft trade of Derrick Rose to New York.

To anyone paying attention, and to any front office with a reasonable solution at point guard, Rondo is no longer worth the hassle. Although he shot a career-best 36.5% on threes and posted a respectable 16.9 Player Efficiency Rating for the Kings, he again failed to translate his own individual production into team success. Sacramento’s offensive efficiency rating was higher with Darren Collison on the court rather than Rondo, in large part because the latter is a flow-killer thanks to his ball-stopping and a floor-cramper thanks to his shaky jumper and reluctance to attack the hoop in search of his own offense.

Defensively, Rondo hardly resembles the player who earned four All-Defensive selections while in Boston. He alternates between reckless gambling and inexplicable ambivalence, ranking 30th among point guards in Defensive Real Plus-Minus and posting a terrible 106.8 Defensive Rating for a Kings defense that ranked 23rd in Defensive Efficiency. Chicago’s other top point guard option, the 34-year-old Jose Calderon, played such poor defense last season that it was the subject of tabloid headlines. Nevertheless, Calderon posted better marks in both DRPM and Defensive Rating than Rondo. That’s remarkable and, frankly, tragic.
Even Rondo’s most stubborn apologists—those who delude themselves into thinking his triple doubles are significant, point out that his numbers have recovered since a serious knee injury in 2013 and buy into the notion that he’s merely “eccentric”—had to question their support during his ugly incident with referee Bill Kennedy last December. Not only did Rondo cross way over the line during the confrontation with Kennedy that led to his ejection, he first issued a muddled statement that fell short of an apology. Finally, after ducking the media and setting off a firestorm of criticism, Rondo issued a second statement that included an apology.

The Kennedy episode was the latest example of Rondo being his own worst enemy. At the end of the 2014–15 season, Rondo bailed on the Mavericks during the middle of a playoff series after butting heads with coach Rick Carlisle at multiple points during the season. Before that, Rondo drew three suspensions in 2012 (for throwing a ball at a referee, for making contact with a referee and for engaging in a fight) and another a suspension in 2013 (for bumping a referee again). While Rondo was a key member of the Celtics’ 2008 title team, doing very well to keep a loaded cast of stars on track, he hasn’t played in a postseason win since 2012.


Carlisle ultimately won the power struggle in Dallas, as the Mavericks moved on in quick fashion, while Karl did not, as he failed to survive the Kings’ chemistry mess last season. Now Rondo enters a Bulls team in transition, one that has lost Rose and Joakim Noah and will almost certainly lose Pau Gasol too. Second-year coach Fred Hoiberg failed to establish a coherent identity or style in his disappointing first season, and now he will be at the mercy of Rondo’s domineering inconsistency. What’s more, Jimmy Butler, who never struck the right balance with Rose once he ascended to All-Star status, must now make it work with Rondo, an even more difficult task.
Chicago made the right call in moving on from Rose, as a split was best for both parties, but Bulls management clearly stumbled by not having a workable backup plan in place. Asking Rondo to carry a weakened roster, mesh with Butler and see eye-to-eye with Hoiberg, whose easy-going personality came under scrutiny last year, is begging for disaster.

Defenders of this move will point to the fact that the Bulls can simply part ways with Rondo next summer. As the Kings discovered during their circus of a season, it’s never quite that simple, is it? SI.com gave Sacramento an “F” last summer for its decision to ink Rondo, and nothing that has happened since then indicates Chicago deserves more favorable treatment.

The occasional breathtaking assist simply comes at too high of a cost. Even Vlade Divac managed to figure that out.

Grade: F

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