NBA Offseason 2016 - FreeAgency money dried up...Waiters gets $2.6 after OKC pulled $6+ offer...

Wade the only one on the Heat that always has to fight for every dollar... but once you start giving discounts, mufuckas don't want to pay full price.
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Shaq helped them get there. Wade delivered in the Finals. That was an all-time NBA Finals performance.
IMO it was because Dallas stayed double teaming Shaq. They never adjusted their defense. Now put in an average center Say Alonzo Mourning at that time Wade doesn't get off like he does.
 
Riley is believed in Miami just as much as Wade. Shit, he had to come down and coach that team because they ever going no where with the coach they had.

you mean the coach that followed that up and got dwight howard to the nba finals? who turned the pistons around in 1 and a half years when they had been shitty for about 7 straight? that coach?
 
Wade won that ship putting shaq & the squad on his back.


Pat is fucked up for not paying him


I disagree on Shaq. Like I said those double teams were key.

Pat is fucked up, but Wade allowed himself to be sold a dream. That's on him. What makes you think a GM is your friend? His interest is with the Owner not the player. Maybe Wade has just now realized this but again that's in him.
 
Otto needs to make a big jump as well. I'm not sure of his ceiling but at his draft position he needs to be another solid star alongside Beal and Walls. You may get that improvement from within if he progresses or keeps on anyway.
Ole Otto huh?? Lets see what Amajordamus had to say about that guy in 2013....

Man Otto will be a journeyman rotation guy at best. He has high bust potential imo. Wiz better get Oladipo fast ass to give Wall a wing speedster that can keep up with him. He's the best prospect in the draft imo.
http://www.bgol.us/forum/index.php?threads/cavaliers-win-nba-draft-lottery.735121/page-2
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I disagree on Shaq. Like I said those double teams were key.

Pat is fucked up, but Wade allowed himself to be sold a dream. That's on him. What makes you think a GM is your friend? His interest is with the Owner not the player. Maybe Wade has just now realized this but again that's in him.

And without Wade taking the cut there's no Lebron or Bosh. Riley isn't caring or seeing that shit
 
you mean the coach that followed that up and got dwight howard to the nba finals? who turned the pistons around in 1 and a half years when they had been shitty for about 7 straight? that coach?


Yea that coach. He's been to a finals, and? So has George Karl and we shit on him, he turned the Bucks around as well and he gets shitted on. Byron Scott went to a finals, and had the hornets competive as fuck in the west. I can list more coaches who been to the finals and never reached them again after. Holla at me when Van Gundy does something great.
 
IMO it was because Dallas stayed double teaming Shaq. They never adjusted their defense. Now put in an average center Say Alonzo Mourning at that time Wade doesn't get off like he does.

It was ruthless driving along with a friendly whistle. Shaq was way more important in the series against Detroit.

That example goes both ways. Keep Shaq and put in another average 2 guard and the Mavs win it.
 
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Ole Otto huh?? Lets see what Amajordamus had to say about that guy in 2013....


http://www.bgol.us/forum/index.php?threads/cavaliers-win-nba-draft-lottery.735121/page-2
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Well...to his credit he only been one one team and Olapido already been on 2 lol. When I see Otto I see a role player so I was shocked to hear was a top 3 pick in the draft. He needs to make a huge jump this year.......if not by year 3 then he probably is what he is at this point. Solid rotational guy. Worst case scenario he can become a 3 and D guy.
 
Yea that coach. He's been to a finals, and? So has George Karl and we shit on him, he turned the Bucks around as well and he gets shitted on. Byron Scott went to a finals, and had the hornets competive as fuck in the west. I can list more coaches who been to the finals and never reached them again after. Holla at me when Van Gundy does something great.

I think Van Gundy has been good post-Heat but with the Heat he underachieved like crazy.
 
And without Wade taking the cut there's no Lebron or Bosh. Riley isn't caring or seeing that shit


He got finessed by an old l greasy haired cac it happens. It's on him not Rikey. Again Riley is the GM, not his friend. He was sold some dreams and brought into it. You know who didn't by intoWniteside. He said fuck taking a cut give me my bread,
 
It was ruthless driving along with a friendly whistle. Shaq was way more important in the series against Detroit.

That example goes both ways. Keep Shaq and put in another average 2 guard and the Mavs win it.

Its been so long ago....maybe I don't remember it right but I seem to remember Alonzo Mourning having a bigger impact in that finals than Shaq. His defense was NASTY.
 
He got finessed by an old l greasy haired cac it happens. It's on him not Rikey. Again Riley is the GM, not his friend. He was sold some dreams and brought into it. You know who didn't by intoWniteside. He said fuck taking a cut give me my bread,

Caught out there stuck between a rock and a hard place.
 
Its been so long ago....maybe I don't remember it right but I seem to remember Alonzo Mourning having a bigger impact in that finals than Shaq. His defense was NASTY.

Mourning was a monster defensively in that series on very limited minutes. A lot of people won't remember this but Antoine Walker put up more points in that Finals than Shaq.
 
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ive never had an outright problem with riley until now.
that lebron shit pushed me over the top with hate. calling someone less than a man cause they don't wanna come back to danny granger and mcbob?
Lebron quit. I can't blame Pat for being a man and refusing to have or Let Lebron run over him.

Pat called Lebron and Pat was told he had to talk to his agent. That was real foul shit Lebron pulled. That is why Pat went in on him.
 
It was ruthless driving along with a friendly whistle. Shaq was way more important in the series against Detroit.

That example goes both ways. Keep Shaq and put in another average 2 guard and the Mavs win it.


Touché but I'm just not under the impression Wade carried the team to ship. I think it was joint effort between then both. I lean more towards Shaq because I haven't seen Wade do that without Lebron or Shaq.
 
Touché but I'm just not under the impression Wade carried the team to ship. I think it was joint effort between then both. I lean more towards Shaq because I haven't seen Wade do that without Lebron or Shaq.

It was. I said Shaq was key during the conference Finals. He got off against my Pistons. But in the finals, it was all Wade. He almost had more points per game than the rest of other starters combined... he lead them in scoring, steals... was second in rebounds, assists, and blocks.. he balled out in the Finals.
 
Well...to his credit he only been one one team and Olapido already been on 2 lol. When I see Otto I see a role player so I was shocked to hear was a top 3 pick in the draft. He needs to make a huge jump this year.......if not by year 3 then he probably is what he is at this point. Solid rotational guy. Worst case scenario he can become a 3 and D guy.

That's cuz Orlando don't know what the Hell they are doing
 
Lebron quit. I can't blame Pat for being a man and refusing to have or Let Lebron run over him.

Pat called Lebron and Pat was told he had to talk to his agent. That was real foul shit Lebron pulled. That is why Pat went in on him.


Bron played the cac. He learned after Gilbert. Truth be told if Riley was smart and observant he would've saw that it's the same behavior he gave Gilbert.
 
It was. I said Shaq was key during the conference Finals. He got off against my Pistons. But in the finals, it was all Wade. He almost had more points per game than the rest of other starters combined... he lead them in scoring, steals... was second in rebounds, assists, and blocks.. he balled out in the Finals.

I can agree with this. I just don't like when people give Wade all the credit.
 
Lebron quit. I can't blame Pat for being a man and refusing to have or Let Lebron run over him.

Pat called Lebron and Pat was told he had to talk to his agent. That was real foul shit Lebron pulled. That is why Pat went in on him.

That's what an agent is for. The fuck you calling Bronze direct about for business? If it was for a foundation, or helping kids yeah. But to holler about business? Man, that's what got Dirk and Wade shitted on. An Agent isn't going for the banana in the tailpipe.

Wade took a back seat to all that and made the sacrifice. He got 2 more chips and some commercials, but the Warmth are already moving on. He's getting that Finley treatment. Wade better jump on Spurs, OKC or Warriors and chase a couple more rings. Riley is dirty as fuck, but how you gonna trust an old man with a mafia hair style?
 
How should the Warriors replace him? Might they be better off signing him a trading him early in the season, thereby retaining some value rather than taking a complete loss?

with someone who can handle his responsibilities.
im not saying he is trash. he is a good player. he's not worth 95 million to the warriors when he was hurt for an extended period this season and nobody even knew it...

Easier said than done... I'd like to see them get Durant or Dirk but I'm doubtful. So what can they actually do? I'm really pulling for them to come back next year but it looks like they're going to be a weaker team.
 
Every time I come in this thread y'all got my team in your mouths.
Stop believing everything you read.
The heat were waiting to talk to kd before they put anything in stone.
They need to see what moves need to be made to get everyone signed.
 
That's what an agent is for. The fuck you calling Bronze direct about for business? If it was for a foundation, or helping kids yeah. But to holler about business? Man, that's what got Dirk and Wade shitted on. An Agent isn't going for the banana in the tailpipe.

Wade took a back seat to all that and made the sacrifice. He got 2 more chips and some commercials, but the Warmth are already moving on. He's getting that Finley treatment. Wade better jump on Spurs, OKC or Warriors and chase a couple more rings. Riley is dirty as fuck, but how you gonna trust an old man with a mafia hair style?


Man if you were to cast the devil in a movie. Pat Riley has to be top 3 choice. I would never trust that dude. Just look at what he did to the Knicks and I'll never forgive him almost ruining basketball. Making final scores 69-63. That's all pats fault.
 
Every time I come in this thread y'all got my team in your mouths.
Stop believing everything you read.
The heat were waiting to talk to kd before they put anything in stone.
They need to see what moves need to be made to get everyone signed.

So Fuck Wade then huh?

Lets see how this works out...
 
Easier said than done... I'd like to see them get Durant or Dirk but I'm doubtful. So what can they actually do? I'm really pulling for them to come back next year but it looks like they're going to be a weaker team.

its just as easy said as done.
barnes missed chunks of this season and rush filled in and nobody even noticed. that's the point.
 
sad thing is wade is pretty much stuck...the knicks talk was nonsense...don't think bucks have the $$$ to pay him 20 mill/yr either
 
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