Charles Barkley: LeBron James will never be a top-five NBA great
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and once again somebody proved how wrong u are by telling your dumbass they was at the game..90 percent of the things that come out of your mouth is wrong like jordan riding the bench in north carolina
That changes everything to me. It's really difficult to wrap your mind around one player being #1 in all major categories for both. Shit being top 3 is sick.. you have to be a really balanced player to even do that.. but to be #1 for BOTH teams in all 5 categories
Without a HOF coach
ExactlyOnly in basketball does evolution not exist. No one argues a nextel chirp is as good or better than than Iphone6.
I also dont like the "tougher defenses competition" bullshit argument. Under that logic Glen Rice is better than LeBron because he faced tougher defenses and more top 50 players.
And they always assume guys that played well in that era would automatically dominate in this one.
As much as like Jordan, the hype he got damn near killed team basketball
Everyone trying to Be Like Mike and thought that meant jacking up a bunch of shots.
was phil a hall of fame coach b4 he coached the bulls??? or did he become a hall of fame coach when jordan help him get 6 rings?? maybe if lebron greatness could win 3 in a row or help his coaches win 6 his coaches to would be called hall of famers.. i'm pretty sure if he would've went 4 and 0 with spo they'd be calling him a hall of fame coach toWithout a HOF coach
It's crazy for realThat changes everything to me. It's really difficult to wrap your mind around one player being #1 in all major categories for both. Shit being top 3 is sick.. you have to be a really balanced player to even do that.. but to be #1 for BOTH teams in all 5 categories
I keep thinking it's a mistake
Lord help if this man shoots 10 3s a game at 40%
Damn
Man, I remember when he led his other championship team in pts, rebounds, and assists. But this was insane. Still ain't good enough for some people. Does this against a 73-win team and people still can actually have their brains activate nerve endings to type and say the craziest fucking shit.That changes everything to me. It's really difficult to wrap your mind around one player being #1 in all major categories for both. Shit being top 3 is sick.. you have to be a really balanced player to even do that.. but to be #1 for BOTH teams in all 5 categories
The cult of Skip Bayless.
man talking about lebron with his stans is like talking about a bitch with 99 flaws and 1 good quality.. bitch could be ugly, pussy stink, be a complete bitch, loud ass fuck, broke, but can cook her ass off... nigs will cover their eyes and hold their nose and try to act like they don't notice her flaws juss to get their stomach fed..lebron stans avoid all his flaws, bitch like tactics, getting shutdown by nobodies, losing more times than actually winning in the finals, but be like hey he lead all stats this finals
Most people don't pay attention to steals and blocks...and even assists don't get glorified too often...
Man. Think about that shit.. for both teams he was the best scorer, best rebounder, best passer, and best defender... that's retarded.
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Dude I respect you're energy and focus Bruh.... You go for days with them motherfuckers man!
Dude I respect you're energy and focus Bruh.... You go for days with them motherfuckers man!
...these dudes don't understand i use to go to war with knick fans and yankee fans in my school, block.. sports betting etc even doin some sports journalism back in the days i actually was considering this as a field of choice..talking shit especially when it comes to sports is what i do... hell i talked so much shit during a de la hoya/mayweather fight party i had every spanish nig in there bet money that mayweather was gonna lose..suckersssssssssss...back when was young betting on vidgames..talk shit to nigs where they get mad and start betting money..suckersssss
I don't think we'll ever see that again -- unless he does it. What's funny is he plays with 2 top 15 rebounders. Damn he controls the fucking game when the post season comes.
Barnes sucked in this series. So did Frye. And Love. And Shumpert.
Im not gonna sit here and pretend the series hinged on Barnes' shot making or that GS was the only team that had to overcome a struggling secondary player.
When you compare please compare apples to apples..shump is a bench player that was never gonna be a major factor in that series..love also was never gonna be a factor because he just doesn't match up well with GS..barnes was a solid starter for GS and was an xfactor in the series..meaning he would get countless of good to great looks because of how cavs played defense..it's not rocket science ..there was a combination of things that went wrong with GS and that's why they lost..and 1 major thing is barnes going 5-32 from the field,on almost all non contested shots, in the last 5 games..it's not hard to give fair and accurate assessments of what happened......
Nobody is denying how bad he played, but Stop pretending this series hinged on Barnes shooting.
Curry playing sub-par affects GS alot more then Barnes playing sub-par.
Cavs got the finals with Smith, Frye and Love launching a ton of 3s. They lost of all that production in the Finals. Its not hard to understand this was also a hurdle for the Cavs to overcome.
In fact, The Cavs are the team that changed the most in the series. GS played the same way and the same lineups until they lost Bogut. Cavs was the team that had to figure put how to adjust to everything.
And just like them Skip is a Jordan dickrider. 3 days after Bron wins a chip these dudes still yapping after they said for sure he'd lose. Luckily no one takes what they say seriously.
"Dominique Wilkins 2.0"
Obviously he wasnt a HoF coach when he first got there, but the rest of his career more then validates his worth to the Bulls and MJ himself.
You guys forgot how good the Bulls were when MJ went on vacation?
How many rings did MJ win without Phil? How many Finals appearances without Phil?
Phil, Pippen and MJ all leaned on each other to climb to the top.
MJ lost to the Bucks and a Magic team that choked in the Finals. Bird couldnt sweep Magic or Isiah but had no problem wit MJ twice. MJ couldnt make the playoffs in a conference dominated by Kerry Kittles and Keith Van Horn. Mofos had to beg Vince Carter to let him start in the ASG.
Again reading is fundamental..I've stated over and over that there were several factors as to why GS lost..I've never stated he is the sole reason..it's not that hard to comprehend and understand what I'm saying and why I'm saying it..
Cavs won't get any credit man. When the GS bench shot 70 percent and saved game one, the bandwagon was like
But when the bench played like the bench and couldn't bail out the superstars because the superstars wouldn't show up, pleas are copped at a record pace. Lue earned his stripes adjusting lineups. It came down to the Warriors trying to hide Curry, and the Cavs working screens to expose him in game 7. Cavs superstars didn't get exposed in game 7...and that's the bottom line...
Phil went to 7 Finals without MJ. MJ never saw a Final without Phil. Phil replaced MJ with Pete Myers and didnt miss a beat.
But Jordan was always the best player on the court in the finals. No one else EVER won a finals MVP against him, or even took him to a 7th game. The fact that his team was a good team, even though you try to project it as a negative, actually magnifies just how amazing a player he was, that with the team you interpret as such a great team, he STILL was always the best and always was identified as the alpha on that team, the measuring stick that all others to this day are compared too. It was NEVER debatable who was the best player on the court when he made it to the biggest stage! The ultimate performer... and undefeated winner!
Thats why, there is such an obsession with him by his detractors even on this blog.... 20 years after his prime, he is still the measuring stick... a mountain that others need to be validated against.
The obsession you guys have with Jordan is actually laughable, and proves his greatness! In YOUR eyes, LeBron is not the best, unless you can convince others he's better than Jordan... That in and of itself puts the nail in the coffin for your arguments!
The GOAT...
And just like them Skip is a Jordan dickrider. 3 days after Bron wins a chip these dudes still yapping after they said for sure he'd lose. Luckily no one takes what they say seriously.
"Dominique Wilkins 2.0"
What's that Wilkins part 2.0 shit?
You are still trying to scapegoat shit. Barnes is not even a top 5 reason why the Cavs won the series.
The Cavs aint even my team but its clear that they took it wayyyyy more then Warriors gave it away.
When I ask why there has never been a 3-1 finals comeback in history before and your pathetic answer is Barnes, it shows that you dont know much about the sport you are watching.
Those finals vs the 76ers, Pacers and Nets were absolute jokes, none of them would make it out of the 2nd round today...
But Jordan was always the best player on the court in the finals. No one else EVER won a finals MVP against him, or even took him to a 7th game. The fact that his team was a good team, even though you try to project it as a negative, actually magnifies just how amazing a player he was, that with the team you interpret as such a great team, he STILL was always the best and always was identified as the alpha on that team, the measuring stick that all others to this day are compared too. It was NEVER debatable who was the best player on the court when he made it to the biggest stage! The ultimate performer... and undefeated winner!
Thats why, there is such an obsession with him by his detractors even on this blog.... 20 years after his prime, he is still the measuring stick... a mountain that others need to be validated against.
The obsession you guys have with Jordan is actually laughable, and proves his greatness! In YOUR eyes, LeBron is not the best, unless you can convince others he's better than Jordan... That in and of itself puts the nail in the coffin for your arguments!
The GOAT...
If you actually read what I wrote, I was complimenting Phil and NOT disrespecting MJ. Both are greats who made it to the top together.
Nor am I trying to convince anyone that James is better then whoever. On this board the argument is always James vs MJ. You know what that means? That means James already won, cause being in the convo is the best anyone can do. He on the Mt Rushmore.
You are free to respond to something I actually wrote though. Anytime.
Tallblackchi says Bron is another Dominique. And that T Mac and Bird are better. He also says MJ made Phil a HOF coach.
I quoted that post because it was your last one.... my point still stands though. The irony is, the only reason the argument is always LeBron vs Jordan is because LeBron fans always bring Jordan up and initiates the debate... LeBron hasn't one anything, since it's HIS people who bring Jordan up not the other way around, as if they need Jordan to validate him. His Airness was considered the GOAT before LeBron was even thought of, LeBron fans need Jordan to validate him...
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