Name sometimes where I was wrong.... Come on, I dare you to answer that..
Charles Barkley: LeBron James will never be a top-five NBA great
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Bruh cavs wasn't beating GS that injury prone
I know, I never said the Cavs was going to win with all those injuries...
Yup now do it.... YOur on the clock!!!; you cant be serious
i agree with CB, Lebron can never get into my top 5 either because we've seen his best and it's not top 5 and now he's past his prime so.....to little too late.
What are you?
Laker (Kobe)
Jordan
Warrior
Salty CAC
Coon
or disgruntle Heat fan?
Be honest......
You didn't answer my question tho bruh?
So there are different levels of wrong now bro!? LMAO
So who is #5
And he's also guarded PGs etc multiple times. So... Guarding multiple positions only means guarding centers? Still waiting for Barkleys list I asked you for too Bruh, as well as his all defensive team selections?
No I want him to name the times I was wrong on a call over the past 5 season, I was kind enough to give dude a freebie for the Spurs win over the Heat, all he has to do is come up with two more...
Sorry whats the question again??
Yea. If Irving was healthy this would have been a repeat.
Go eat a dick faggit no ifs y'all lost period Foh
Wasn't address to you Sir
Not sure why you are asking me for that information. I never said anything about Barkley or him doing those things. Point is, don't say he's guarded every position regularly, when he's only guarded one of those positions one time. He doesn't guard every position on a regular. I'm still trying to figure out how is he such a great defender, when the opposing small forward won finals MVP twice against him.
Can you quote the post where I said LeBron guards ever position regularly please?
Bitch ass nigga thinking he can tell who wins games rather than the players on the floor still mad huh? Fuck you and your wack ass record label fag!!
Yep. RIP Mr. Spain. He used to always yell at us for being on his grass he used to always yell at us for being on his grass back when I lived in Cleveland
I hate when cats don't take the pace back then into consideration. Imagine the numbers Westbrook or LBJ would put up with the pace of the 60s(not to mention a truly watered down league due to racial quotas).
Let's look at this: https://doubledribble.wordpress.com/2012/09/13/nba-stars-of-1960s-pace-adjusted-stats/
http://thinkprogress.org/yglesias/2009/02/27/185774/lebrons_stats_now_with_pace_adjustment/
Okay, so you’ve all seen Wilt and Oscar’s numbers from 1962… but have you ever sat down and looked at the league averages that year? In ‘62, the average team took 107.7 shots per game. By comparison, this year the average team takes 80.2 FGA/G. If we use a regression to estimate turnovers & offensive rebounds, the league pace factor for 1962 was 125.5 possessions/48 minutes, whereas this year it’s 91.7. Oscar’s Royals averaged 124.7 poss/48, while Wilt’s Warriors put up a staggering 129.7 (the highest mark in the league). On the other hand, the 2009 Cavs are averaging a mere 89.2 poss/48. It turns out that the simplest explanation for the crazy statistical feats of 1961-62 (and the early sixties in general) is just that the league was playing at a much faster tempo in those days, with more possessions affording players more opportunities to amass gaudy counting statistics.
Let’s say LeBron ‘09 could switch paces (note that I didn’t say “places”, which is another argument entirely) with Oscar ‘62… That means we would have to scale down the Big O’s per-game numbers by multiplying them by .715, giving Robertson a far more reasonable line of 22.0 PPG, 8.9 RPG, & 8.1 APG — which are still really good numbers, to be sure, but not as crazy as they looked at the breakneck pace of ‘62. By contrast, we have to multiply LBJ’s stats by a factor of 1.4 if we want to see what they would look like if he played at a 1962-style pace. The results: 40.1 PPG, 10.3 RPG, & 10.0 APG!! As you can see, those 35.5 extra possessions per game really make a huge difference when comparing the two players’ stats.
When adjusted for pace, the stats tell a different story than the superhuman shit we are spoonfed by old timers. I also wonder if any of the cats who have Bill Russell top 5 ever watched him play. Damn his offense was just terrible. He did have some stacked teams.
If you disregard numbers for pace 40 years ago someone can do the same 20 years from now on this era. Also factor in no 3 point line and the fact everyone played under those rules at the time but only a handful put up historic numbers.
Didn't u say the spurs match up well with the dubs
didn't u say dubs and hawks are the same teamdidn't you say the heat would beat the spurs didn't you say the cavs would beat the dubs last yeardidn't u say u wasn't lurking when you really wasetc etc etc...go back to lurking..but before u do name one player that has averaged a tripple double 
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Lebron is a really good player. But when you compare him to the greats from a skills level he falls short somewhat.
Lebron does not have an outside game because he was never a good shooter.
He has very limited post moves.
His mid range game is not strong.
Lebron's freakish athletic ability always covered up his flaws. Not saying this in a negative way but Lebron is the best stat padder and empty stat player ever.
Lebron does not have an outside game because he was never a good shooter.
He has very limited post moves.
His mid range game is not strong.
Lebron's freakish athletic ability always covered up his flaws. Not saying this in a negative way but Lebron is the best stat padder and empty stat player ever.
While I agree with that. Only 2 of those players with 4 bums on the team are going to make it to the finals and be competitive.
The big men can't distribute the ball. Except magic, which beside MJ I would consider grabbing before Lebron.
My point is he can do everything, he probably the most comple players we have seen.
Pace is a product of players not being that good and dumb coaches..Westbrook isn't even as skilled as bird let alone big o..understanding the difference between athletics talents and skills goes along way..these players are athletic like no other but their skills are well below what they should beI hate when cats don't take the pace back then into consideration. Imagine the numbers Westbrook or LBJ would put up with the pace of the 60s(not to mention a truly watered down league due to racial quotas).
Let's look at this: https://doubledribble.wordpress.com/2012/09/13/nba-stars-of-1960s-pace-adjusted-stats/
http://thinkprogress.org/yglesias/2009/02/27/185774/lebrons_stats_now_with_pace_adjustment/
Okay, so you’ve all seen Wilt and Oscar’s numbers from 1962… but have you ever sat down and looked at the league averages that year? In ‘62, the average team took 107.7 shots per game. By comparison, this year the average team takes 80.2 FGA/G. If we use a regression to estimate turnovers & offensive rebounds, the league pace factor for 1962 was 125.5 possessions/48 minutes, whereas this year it’s 91.7. Oscar’s Royals averaged 124.7 poss/48, while Wilt’s Warriors put up a staggering 129.7 (the highest mark in the league). On the other hand, the 2009 Cavs are averaging a mere 89.2 poss/48. It turns out that the simplest explanation for the crazy statistical feats of 1961-62 (and the early sixties in general) is just that the league was playing at a much faster tempo in those days, with more possessions affording players more opportunities to amass gaudy counting statistics.
Let’s say LeBron ‘09 could switch paces (note that I didn’t say “places”, which is another argument entirely) with Oscar ‘62… That means we would have to scale down the Big O’s per-game numbers by multiplying them by .715, giving Robertson a far more reasonable line of 22.0 PPG, 8.9 RPG, & 8.1 APG — which are still really good numbers, to be sure, but not as crazy as they looked at the breakneck pace of ‘62. By contrast, we have to multiply LBJ’s stats by a factor of 1.4 if we want to see what they would look like if he played at a 1962-style pace. The results: 40.1 PPG, 10.3 RPG, & 10.0 APG!! As you can see, those 35.5 extra possessions per game really make a huge difference when comparing the two players’ stats.
When adjusted for pace, the stats tell a different story than the superhuman shit we are spoonfed by old timers. I also wonder if any of the cats who have Bill Russell top 5 ever watched him play. Damn his offense was just terrible. He did have some stacked teams.
When the Cavs were down 3-1 he ran. Now he wants to postDidn't u say the spurs match up well worth the dubs
You are a lurker period..u hide behind paragraphs of bullshit and say the dumbest shit and then throw some stupid analysis behind it..no need for me to ever respond to you again...
Exactly..fucker didn't say shit..now wants to come beat his chest...gtfohWhen the Cavs were down 3-1 he ran. Now he wants to post
I hate when cats don't take the pace back then into consideration. Imagine the numbers Westbrook or LBJ would put up with the pace of the 60s(not to mention a truly watered down league due to racial quotas).
Let's look at this: https://doubledribble.wordpress.com/2012/09/13/nba-stars-of-1960s-pace-adjusted-stats/
http://thinkprogress.org/yglesias/2009/02/27/185774/lebrons_stats_now_with_pace_adjustment/
Okay, so you’ve all seen Wilt and Oscar’s numbers from 1962… but have you ever sat down and looked at the league averages that year? In ‘62, the average team took 107.7 shots per game. By comparison, this year the average team takes 80.2 FGA/G. If we use a regression to estimate turnovers & offensive rebounds, the league pace factor for 1962 was 125.5 possessions/48 minutes, whereas this year it’s 91.7. Oscar’s Royals averaged 124.7 poss/48, while Wilt’s Warriors put up a staggering 129.7 (the highest mark in the league). On the other hand, the 2009 Cavs are averaging a mere 89.2 poss/48. It turns out that the simplest explanation for the crazy statistical feats of 1961-62 (and the early sixties in general) is just that the league was playing at a much faster tempo in those days, with more possessions affording players more opportunities to amass gaudy counting statistics.
Let’s say LeBron ‘09 could switch paces (note that I didn’t say “places”, which is another argument entirely) with Oscar ‘62… That means we would have to scale down the Big O’s per-game numbers by multiplying them by .715, giving Robertson a far more reasonable line of 22.0 PPG, 8.9 RPG, & 8.1 APG — which are still really good numbers, to be sure, but not as crazy as they looked at the breakneck pace of ‘62. By contrast, we have to multiply LBJ’s stats by a factor of 1.4 if we want to see what they would look like if he played at a 1962-style pace. The results: 40.1 PPG, 10.3 RPG, & 10.0 APG!! As you can see, those 35.5 extra possessions per game really make a huge difference when comparing the two players’ stats.
When adjusted for pace, the stats tell a different story than the superhuman shit we are spoonfed by old timers. I also wonder if any of the cats who have Bill Russell top 5 ever watched him play. Damn his offense was just terrible. He did have some stacked teams.
Oscar's not top 5 Bruh... Its actually not really debatable, but thanks for putting a capper on that discussion anyway...
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