2015-2016 NBA playoff edition: Finals - Cavs vs Warriors - Cavs win 4-3
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IMO, tonight is Steph and LeBron's defining moments. With LeBrons 2 chips, you always have the out that he needed Wade and Bosh to get them. With Steph, he's been good, but not great in either finals, so you question his place in terms of his position on the best player in the game discussion.
LeBron has NO excuses not to have a damn near finals career game tonight, and he gets the chance to exercise the Iggy 'demon'. Fuck all that deferring and passing shit, if the game is on the line tonight, nothing short of him pulling a Piston's like finish (in terms of his mindset more than actual stats. Nobody expects him to score 25 straight points and Kyrie ain't having that shit
), will be acceptable.
Curry, no more excuses about how the Cavs are playing him, etc. He doesn't have to dominaate like LeBron needs to to exercise his 'smedium' demons due to the his more complete squad, but he HAS to be the best player on the court for GS, if not, he deserves a major roasting as well.
The way I see it, GS still has the advantage due to their bench, but bigger than that, due to their coaching advantage. The Cavs have to get up early, and maintain, to allow for Lue's weaknesses not to impact them as much. If they are up, he SHOULD be able to get LeBron and Kyrie, etc. some rest, stealing minutes here and there in the first half, so they are fresher at the end of the game. If the game is close, I think he has another brain freeze, plays them too much, and the GS Stars will be fresher and more effective late, i.e. Game 4.
I see a close game, I see the Cavs trying to exploit Green not being in the game, I see LeBron being more aggressive, I see Kerr adjusting at different times in the game going big and extra small, which will throw Lue into fits because he will not have a true counter...
Comes down to benches. If LeBron and Steph both step up and play big, who do you favor to be the better support: Klay and the Warriors role players, or Kyrie and the Cavs role players?
I like GS in a very close, OT type game.....
IMO, tonight is Steph and LeBron's defining moments. With LeBrons 2 chips, you always have the out that he needed Wade and Bosh to get them. With Steph, he's been good, but not great in either finals, so you question his place in terms of his position on the best player in the game discussion.
LeBron has NO excuses not to have a damn near finals career game tonight, and he gets the chance to exercise the Iggy 'demon'. Fuck all that deferring and passing shit, if the game is on the line tonight, nothing short of him pulling a Piston's like finish (in terms of his mindset more than actual stats. Nobody expects him to score 25 straight points and Kyrie ain't having that shit
), will be acceptable.Curry, no more excuses about how the Cavs are playing him, etc. He doesn't have to dominaate like LeBron needs to to exercise his 'smedium' demons due to the his more complete squad, but he HAS to be the best player on the court for GS, if not, he deserves a major roasting as well.
The way I see it, GS still has the advantage due to their bench, but bigger than that, due to their coaching advantage. The Cavs have to get up early, and maintain, to allow for Lue's weaknesses not to impact them as much. If they are up, he SHOULD be able to get LeBron and Kyrie, etc. some rest, stealing minutes here and there in the first half, so they are fresher at the end of the game. If the game is close, I think he has another brain freeze, plays them too much, and the GS Stars will be fresher and more effective late, i.e. Game 4.
I see a close game, I see the Cavs trying to exploit Green not being in the game, I see LeBron being more aggressive, I see Kerr adjusting at different times in the game going big and extra small, which will throw Lue into fits because he will not have a true counter...
Comes down to benches. If LeBron and Steph both step up and play big, who do you favor to be the better support: Klay and the Warriors role players, or Kyrie and the Cavs role players?
I like GS in a very close, OT type game.....
It gets even worse for Lebron. They releasing the transcript of what Draymond green said.
Draymond called him a bitch and Lebron responded with "I am a father of 3 a husband and a grown man"
Draymond response was "you still a bitch"
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IMO, tonight is Steph and LeBron's defining moments. With LeBrons 2 chips, you always have the out that he needed Wade and Bosh to get them. With Steph, he's been good, but not great in either finals, so you question his place in terms of his position on the best player in the game discussion.
LeBron has NO excuses not to have a damn near finals career game tonight, and he gets the chance to exercise the Iggy 'demon'. Fuck all that deferring and passing shit, if the game is on the line tonight, nothing short of him pulling a Piston's like finish (in terms of his mindset more than actual stats. Nobody expects him to score 25 straight points and Kyrie ain't having that shit
Curry, no more excuses about how the Cavs are playing him, etc. He doesn't have to dominaate like LeBron needs to to exercise his 'smedium' demons due to the his more complete squad, but he HAS to be the best player on the court for GS, if not, he deserves a major roasting as well.
The way I see it, GS still has the advantage due to their bench, but bigger than that, due to their coaching advantage. The Cavs have to get up early, and maintain, to allow for Lue's weaknesses not to impact them as much. If they are up, he SHOULD be able to get LeBron and Kyrie, etc. some rest, stealing minutes here and there in the first half, so they are fresher at the end of the game. If the game is close, I think he has another brain freeze, plays them too much, and the GS Stars will be fresher and more effective late, i.e. Game 4.
I see a close game, I see the Cavs trying to exploit Green not being in the game, I see LeBron being more aggressive, I see Kerr adjusting at different times in the game going big and extra small, which will throw Lue into fits because he will not have a true counter...
Comes down to benches. If LeBron and Steph both step up and play big, who do you favor to be the better support: Klay and the Warriors role players, or Kyrie and the Cavs role players?
I like GS in a very close, OT type game.....
This your thoughts or copy and pasted?
I thing it's spot on either way
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IMO, tonight is Steph and LeBron's defining moments. With LeBrons 2 chips, you always have the out that he needed Wade and Bosh to get them. With Steph, he's been good, but not great in either finals, so you question his place in terms of his position on the best player in the game discussion.
LeBron has NO excuses not to have a damn near finals career game tonight, and he gets the chance to exercise the Iggy 'demon'. Fuck all that deferring and passing shit, if the game is on the line tonight, nothing short of him pulling a Piston's like finish (in terms of his mindset more than actual stats. Nobody expects him to score 25 straight points and Kyrie ain't having that shit
Curry, no more excuses about how the Cavs are playing him, etc. He doesn't have to dominaate like LeBron needs to to exercise his 'smedium' demons due to the his more complete squad, but he HAS to be the best player on the court for GS, if not, he deserves a major roasting as well.
The way I see it, GS still has the advantage due to their bench, but bigger than that, due to their coaching advantage. The Cavs have to get up early, and maintain, to allow for Lue's weaknesses not to impact them as much. If they are up, he SHOULD be able to get LeBron and Kyrie, etc. some rest, stealing minutes here and there in the first half, so they are fresher at the end of the game. If the game is close, I think he has another brain freeze, plays them too much, and the GS Stars will be fresher and more effective late, i.e. Game 4.
I see a close game, I see the Cavs trying to exploit Green not being in the game, I see LeBron being more aggressive, I see Kerr adjusting at different times in the game going big and extra small, which will throw Lue into fits because he will not have a true counter...
Comes down to benches. If LeBron and Steph both step up and play big, who do you favor to be the better support: Klay and the Warriors role players, or Kyrie and the Cavs role players?
I like GS in a very close, OT type game.....
I ain't read non of that shit... Who refin tonight and u will get your answe to who win game 5 lol
I dont think anybody be reading his bullshit essays.
Steph needs to prove he can win without Dray.
My thoughts bruh... You hit me with a LeBron there too tho!
I dont think anybody be reading his bullshit essays.
Steph needs to prove he can win without Dray.
How was the ball movement and player movement in game 4 for the Cavs?
I would guess ok at some point then erased
My thoughts bruh... You hit me with a LeBron there too tho!
What Disrespecting ?
If Bron wins tonite hes a 2 time champ, 5 time mvp, 2time finals mvp, 13 time all star, and top 10 all time player... If he loses hes still all that. No idea how this will be a defining moment for him.
Meanwhile, Steph has had 3 stinkers in the finals, team has won games and series without him, and he needs to lead the team without Draymond... Definitely defining moment for him tho.
I actually explained it in my post but you are definitely entitled to your opinion bruh
Kevin Love on His Critics: ‘It’s Just Never Enough’
June 13, 2016
The Cleveland Cavaliers had Kevin Love back on the court for their devastating 108-97 loss in Game 4 of the NBA Finals, and the big fella knows he can’t quiet his growing legion of critics.
Love came off the bench after sitting out Game 3—a 120-90 laugher for the Cavs—but public opinion is strongly against him these days.
The three-time All-Star’s future in Cleveland is cloudy at best.
Per ESPN:
“It was tough,” Love said. “Being able to pass protocol, one of the things, you have to be symptom-free for a certain amount of time, I was told. Having to deal with the headaches, having to deal with not being able to sleep, initially being in the dark rooms. Just going over all the stuff and then not being able to play was so, so frustrating. It was a weird experience dealing with a concussion.”
Why does this conversation always seem to occur with him specifically? Why does public sentiment turn on him as soon as the Cavs stumble? […] “Why do you think?” Love said, answering a question with a question. “You’re part of it. I’m not saying you’re who does it, but you are there with the people that do … I don’t know how to answer it, because I have a couple bad games last series [against Toronto], tough games, and have to come back and do whatever I needed to do to help the team. Still, it’s just never enough.”
It’s with the same knowing tone that Love assesses the calls for him to be traded this offseason if the Cavs can’t pull off the improbable and win Games 5-7. […] “It’s an easy storyline, and people are going to run with it, and that’s always going to be how it is,” Love said of the calls to blow the Cavs up, despite two straight trips to the Finals. “But if you ask anybody on that team, including myself, this is the closest unit, closest group I’ve ever been around. I mean, I’ve been asked to do different things, being here. I’ve been asked to be the second, third guy — third guy most nights. It hasn’t been the easiest transition in the world, but as far as being a part of a family, this unit here, I’ve never been on a team that’s closer than this. So that’s why I don’t understand when I hear people say I’m a square peg in a round hole or something like that.”
June 13, 2016
The Cleveland Cavaliers had Kevin Love back on the court for their devastating 108-97 loss in Game 4 of the NBA Finals, and the big fella knows he can’t quiet his growing legion of critics.
Love came off the bench after sitting out Game 3—a 120-90 laugher for the Cavs—but public opinion is strongly against him these days.
The three-time All-Star’s future in Cleveland is cloudy at best.
Per ESPN:
“It was tough,” Love said. “Being able to pass protocol, one of the things, you have to be symptom-free for a certain amount of time, I was told. Having to deal with the headaches, having to deal with not being able to sleep, initially being in the dark rooms. Just going over all the stuff and then not being able to play was so, so frustrating. It was a weird experience dealing with a concussion.”
Why does this conversation always seem to occur with him specifically? Why does public sentiment turn on him as soon as the Cavs stumble? […] “Why do you think?” Love said, answering a question with a question. “You’re part of it. I’m not saying you’re who does it, but you are there with the people that do … I don’t know how to answer it, because I have a couple bad games last series [against Toronto], tough games, and have to come back and do whatever I needed to do to help the team. Still, it’s just never enough.”
It’s with the same knowing tone that Love assesses the calls for him to be traded this offseason if the Cavs can’t pull off the improbable and win Games 5-7. […] “It’s an easy storyline, and people are going to run with it, and that’s always going to be how it is,” Love said of the calls to blow the Cavs up, despite two straight trips to the Finals. “But if you ask anybody on that team, including myself, this is the closest unit, closest group I’ve ever been around. I mean, I’ve been asked to do different things, being here. I’ve been asked to be the second, third guy — third guy most nights. It hasn’t been the easiest transition in the world, but as far as being a part of a family, this unit here, I’ve never been on a team that’s closer than this. So that’s why I don’t understand when I hear people say I’m a square peg in a round hole or something like that.”
The Myth and Reality of LeBron James
Draymond Green has never believed in the myth of LeBron James. In December 2012, Green was an unheralded second-round draft-pick, fighting for time in his rookie year. James was the centerpiece of supposedly the greatest team ever assembled. The Warriors arrived in Miami in the midst of a successful road trip and went to war against the Heat. In an effort to slow down a typically dominant performance from James, Mark Jackson gave Green a shot at defending him. Green denied James on two consecutive trips to the basket. The third time down, James finally drew a foul on the rookie. James then turned and barked at Green. “You too little.” At that moment, Warriors fans — and the rest of the NBA — learned something important about Green. He didn’t shy away from the then-best-player-in-the-world. He didn’t worry about the perceived ridiculousness of some then-nobody jawing at an NBA great. He turned around, got in LeBron’s face, and answered. Later that night, Green scored a slashing lay-up with 0.9 seconds left to defeat LeBron and the Heat on their home court, 97-95. It would be the first time Green bested James. It wouldn’t be the last.
The Cavs may win Game 5 against a Green-less Warriors, but LeBron James has lost something bigger in the process. In the fourth quarter of Game 4, James transparently baited Green with a step-over after Green and the Warriors’ defense had owned James on the defensive end all quarter. The step-over is usually an act reserved for a victor over the dominated — think Allen Iverson over Tyronn Lue. But James deployed it as a tantrum. It was the hollow act of someone lashing out in defeat, not boasting in victory. James then spent his post-game press conference passively-aggressively lobbying for a suspension, pushing the NBA to do what he could not do himself: get past Draymond Green.
The victim narrative is a new look for LeBron, and not one that sits well with his “Greatest” self-mythologizing. According to James, “some of the words that came out of [Green’s] mouth were a little overboard.” James immediately characterized the play as one “the League will take a look at.” James then descended into talk about how “the chips have been stacked up against us all year.” James and the Cavs apparently haven’t just overcome a historically weak Eastern Conference, a roster assembled specifically to meet James’ demands and a coach chosen with James’ blessing, but also intolerable bias from the referees. “I’m not quite sure what I can do personally to get to the free-throw line,” James mused. “I’m getting hit, but the refs are not seeing it that way, on my drives.” If that wasn’t direct enough: “it’s tough playing 46 minutes and only going to the line four times, as much as I attack the rim.” But asked a few questions later about his criticism of the refs, James was in full denial: “I didn’t talk about the referees. I was asked a question and I answered it. I’m going to save my 25K, okay. So I have not talked about the referees. Don’t put me in that cloud.” The myth of LeBron James floats on a different cloud. One where “the King” doesn’t need to whine for calls, doesn’t let an opponent’s trash talk rattle him, and doesn’t need NBA intervention to help him reach what he has always viewed as his entitlement: an NBA championship. But back on earth, in the reality of 2016, the myth of LeBron James is increasingly hard to believe.
There will be endless debate about how a play where Green barely makes contact with James can be a flagrant foul (James certainly didn’t respond as if Green made serious contact, and the ref immediately in front of the play didn’t call it). Others will try to cobble together some theory of intent intent based on plays scattered throughout the playoffs and Green’s career (none of which appear indisputably intentional), while ignoring more egregious acts by members of the Cavs that were dismissed as “scrappy basketball plays” and never reviewed for punishment. There will be talk of double standards, but the arbitrariness of the NBA’s ruling makes any reference to a “standard” generous. These debates may suck up all the media bandwidth until Monday night’s game, but ultimately, Draymond Green’s suspension will be an asterisk on this series. James and the Cavs may have successfully lobbied to change the match-ups in Game 5, but all their hurt feelings can’t change the fundamental differences between these teams: in talent, in coaching, and in the way the players work together as a true team.
A year after bemoaning the fact that the Warriors didn’t face the Cavs at full strength, I expect the Warriors to repay those slights with interest by beating the Cavs on Monday despite being a man down. Green has spent every second of this season watching the backs of his teammates. In Game 5, they’ll return the loyalty. It’s hard to imagine any greater motivation for a team that burns disrespect like rocket fuel than what’s transpired over the past 48 hours. But while I expect the Warriors’ response to this unfortunate incident to only increase their legend, the same can’t be said for James. Through all of James’ self-laudatory cliches about leadership, competition and rising to the challenge, remember this: when the time came for James and Green to match-up on the biggest stage, it was LeBron who was too little.
Passive aggresive diss like a sonofabitch!What Disrespecting ?