2015-2016 NBA playoff edition: Finals - Cavs vs Warriors - Cavs win 4-3
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We're not talking about historically. We're talking about THIS SERIES. He's leaning way too much on his jumper. Go look at his shot chart. They're publicly available if you aren't watching the games.
He's shooting less than 30 percent from 3 but he's continuing to shoot them at volume.
He took 13 shots in game 3. NINE of them were 3 pointers. Yeah, he's driving to the rack..ok...
We're not talking about historically. We're talking about THIS SERIES. He's leaning way too much on his jumper. Go look at his shot chart. They're publicly available if you aren't watching the games.
He's shooting less than 30 percent from 3 but he's continuing to shoot them at volume.
He took 13 shots in game 3. NINE of them were 3 pointers. Yeah, he's driving to the rack..ok...
Is what it is trollin bra don't even try to make sense of his argument
So... That also explains the differences in FT attempts between the teams too right? Especially in GS?We're not talking about historically. We're talking about THIS SERIES. He's leaning way too much on his jumper. Go look at his shot chart. They're publicly available if you aren't watching the games.
He's shooting less than 30 percent from 3 but he's continuing to shoot them at volume.
He took 13 shots in game 3. NINE of them were 3 pointers. Yeah, he's driving to the rack..ok...
Edit**** lets not forget the almost identical number of fouls called between the two teams as well, which since Cle has shot so many more FTs SOMEBODY is blowing the whistle on GS?!?!?
So... That also explains the differences in FT attempts between the teams too right? Especially in GS?
Yo. Let's be honest here. Before you starting jumping around, let's deal with the first assertion.
Your counterpoint was that there was not advantage for the Warriors because of the free throw discrepancy.
You then used Curry as the example.
Curry two TWO shots in the paint in the entire game and got fouled on one of them. That's a 50 percent conversion rate.
You can't convert on what you aren't attempting. Curry didn't shoot free throws in game 3 because he didn't drive. It has nothing to do with the refs not calling fouls on the Cavs when they should have.
If you shoot 13 shots and 9 of them are 3 and two of them are step back shots in the lane, you aren't going to shoot a lot of free throws. Point blank. A lack of free throws can mean a lot of things. It can make the refs are calling the game a certain way or it can make your team is playing the game a certain way.or it can mean both.
In this case, Curry didn't shoot free throws because he didn't do anything to draw contact, period. It's not even up for debate. Don't argue for the sake of arguing.
Curry's shot is not dropping, he needs to drive to the basket and put pressure on the Cavs' interior defense.
I knew game was over the moment I saw Curry's first shot (Golden State's first) and the foul wasn't called. All arm and the ball died mid-air. The first quarter was all holding, grabbing and non-calls. Throw in some good shooting by the Cavs and the outcome was never in doubt. I changed the channel after the first quarter. It's not this is kind of thing is new.
Is what it is trollin bra don't even try to make sense of his argument
For like 3 days youve tried hard to get my attention lil guy but you dont even rate enough for me to waste my time with you... Now you do some weak shit like try to piggy back on another convo Im having?!??! At least KingT makes it interesting, you sound desperate for my attention and are really boring as fuck... Imma give your lil bitch ass some time out lil Nigga, keep referencing me in your weak aas posts though, I guess somebody will read them and you can feel 'included'... Niggas desperate to be involved... Wow :smh;
We always get on Lebron for his performance against the Mavs in 2011. And Curry might get away with this because is team is so balanced, but this is an epic underperformance so far..epic. He's averaging 15 points a game (half of his season's average) and things like turnovers, etc are up.
This is a point guard who had 3 assists on 6 TOs. Curry is playing like ass on the biggest stage.
This is a point guard who had 3 assists on 6 TOs. Curry is playing like ass on the biggest stage.
My first assertion was the FT disparity, Curry was secondary and I still stand behind my contention that No FTA for him in over 2 gamea is ridiculously imbalanced. You too a biased baby sample and tries to comprise the who finals narrative from it, I gave supporting evidence to contradict your contention. Youve yet to supporr your theory outside of that video...
Is what it is trollin bra don't even try to make sense of his argument
I know how dude gets down.
Curry needs to start playing with some intelligence. He's shooting like ass but he's a 90 percent free throw shooter and the mvp. he'll get 10 FTs per game easily if he just drives. He's bailing the Cavs out with all the 3 point shooting. Outside of two great games in the playoffs, Curry has quietly shot the ball poorly by his standards.
MVP is a regular season award and I still believe he deserved it, however hes playing ass cheeks in this series so far no doubt. Winning cures a lot of shit though and LeBron gets shit on because his choke jobs directly contributed to his teams failures... Unless they lose Currys wont. Its not fair but ultimately if GS wins and Curry plays this way, hes still a 2 time champ AGAINST LeBron...
You won't shoot FT when you're only shooting 3s and step back shots. He drove to the lane twice. That's the reason why he's not going to the line. It's not even debatable.
I've not posted a video. You're confusing me with someone else.
If they win, he's going to get a pass. But he's playing like ass. His shot isn't falling. he can't be a one-dimensional player.
He's got to be smart. This is a trend. He's in a real shooting slump. He needs to drive to the basket....especially when he gets Irving on him. Plus, making some free throws can often help your shot.. that's why Lebron blocked his dunk on that after the whistle attempt...sometimes all it takes it to see one shot drop.
But in a sense. That's kinda what you want curry to do; drive to the basket.
He would rather shoot the three, so driving is what you would want him to do. If he is bricking from the outside, then driving to the lane is still what you want him to do because he rather shoot the three ball.
Interesting.
The Warriors don't want him ONLY driving to the lane. However, when you're obviously in a shooting slump, you need to get easy baskets. He has to supplement the poor 3 point shooting with easy baskets. He needs mid-range buckets and free throws.
With Curry shooting like this, he's just an average player. he's not a defender..and Curry can be a decent playmaker, but you can't make players when you're ONLY shooting 3s. Curry driving isn't just about him shooting.. the defense will have to collapse and he'll get other players shots.
But ONLY shooting long-range when you're not hitting them is a recipe for disaster... the shit just worked out at home because their role players and bench went bananas.
And when his shot isn't dropping, it fucks up Thompson too. Thompson is a spot shooter. He likes to get set as opposed to shooting off the dribble.. when Curry is driving, it opens up options for Klay.
Dude your focusing on Curry... The problem with you guys is if someone doesnt see shit the way you do they are trolling... That is really a weak ass insecurity a lot of you Dudes have... I still stand by my contention... The series has been called fairly. Nothing supports otherwise
My bad.
You brought up Curry specifically to make your argument. I didn't. I just shot down the main point you used to make your argument.
Use another player and I'll explain that too. Want to use thompson? Go look at Klay's shot chart.
You aren't shooting free throws if you only shooting spot up jumpers. It's that fucking simple.
The refs are calling the contact fouls WHEN the Warriors drive. They just aren't doing it.
The Cavs are going to shoot more free throws because they're attacking. They should be shooting even more but the refs aren't calling the interior tightly. That's why it got so physical that Love was concussed by an elbow (which wasn't even called a foul).
And that definitely benefits the warriors as they can get away with playing their small lineup.
If the refs start calling the game tighter and both team continue with the same strategy, it will go even more towards the Cavs.
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The Cavs have had 3 more fouls called on them the entire series, AND Cleveland has outshot them 61 to 46 in FT attempta so... But hey, its obvious how much GS is being favored by the refs so far so... i stand corrected
But teams that drive will always shoot more free throws than jump shooting teams. So that's a bad comparison.
No doubt, but both teams are averaging 25 or more 3s per game. Very valid point tho Bruh, GS def shouldnt be shooting more FTs than Cle, especially with the way LeBrons game has evolved.
..i still say him not shooting ONE FT untik the 3rd qtr of gamr 3 is ridiculous bruh
Huh he's goat remember? Even though no finals MVP or defensive awards
You won't shoot FTs if you're only shooting 3 pointers and fallaway shots.
It's ridiculous that he's bailing out the Cavs.
If he attacks, he'll shoot three throws. In this case, that's an issue with Curry not the refs. They can't call fouls if he's not drawing any contact.
But they don't want 2's fam. They want 3s. It gets them pumped up.
It's better you intentionally foul than give them 3s. They don't want to play a grind it out 2 for 2 type of game.
I know what they want. But you gotta smarten up. This is a trend (the below average shooting from Curry). You don't need to completely abandon what you got you there, but clearly you gotta try to get easier shots.
My bad. I wasn't talking about what the warriors wanted him to do, but what the Cavs want him to do. Obviously if he is shooting poorly, you want to play your percentages, but at the same time as long as he isn't making them I would still want him to drive if I was the Cavs. Curry can get 24 points from threes in a hurry. Which is hard to trade 2 for 3 when that kat is in.
I do agree with the points you made about what the warriors want him to do.
Klay is the Rip Hamilton of the pistons.
In the half court games, executed offense benefits klay more.
I said that they can't play together but not bringing out old ass Richard Jefferson
oh hell yeah.. Cavs definitely want him to keep chucking if he's doing to shoot this poorly.
Jefferson gave them good production. Yeah..you probably don't want him playing 33 minutes again, but he's the type of player that helps you match up with the Warriors. With Love back, you're going to reduce his minutes... but if Fry isn't scoring, Jefferson is going to get a bulk of those minutes when Love isn't out there...really no way around that. and Jefferson is a much better defender than Love.
Steve Kerr needs to light up into Curry and Klay. It's not like they aren't getting open shots. Cleveland played inspired D last nite, but them ninjas are just missing shots. And what's maddening is that they rarely go to the rack. It's usually 3s or bust for them. They need to drive some on those pick and rolls. Get some pull-up Js and try to get to the FT line.
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