2015-2016 NBA playoff edition: Finals - Cavs vs Warriors - Cavs win 4-3

Who's you going with Cavs or Warriors!!!


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What do y'all think about this...

The dubs been on fire from deep...while the cavs tried to take away the 3's(I'm guessing didn't see game 2)

Been on fire inside...(dubs have slasher, finishers who's attack their defender)


What do you think about going zone...


At least this would've maybe cut off the lane, vs giving up both lane and outside

You gonna bring an air raid siren with you? Cause bombs will start dropping.
 
LeBron be like....
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:lol:
Imagine the blow back if he did leave.
Think the media would turn on him again?
 
This nigga Lebron traded Andrew Wiggins for a white boy
Think about that move. He not only PROBABLY fucked up his chances, but he also fucked up the future. Wiggins could be a solid peace for the next 10-12 years. I remember when I was in denial about the Love trade happening and even had Wiggins on my 2k squad.

They might have done that 30/30 shit too soon. If the Cavs don't come back, they'd have to mention this shit. :smh: Shit so bad for me right now I played as the Cavs and lost to GS in fucking 2k16.
 
Think about that move. He not only PROBABLY fucked up his chances, but he also fucked up the future. Wiggins could be a solid peace for the next 10-12 years. I remember when I was in denial about the Love trade happening and even had Wiggins on my 2k squad.

They might have done that 30/30 shit too soon. If the Cavs don't come back, they'd have to mention this shit. :smh: Shit so bad for me right now I played as the Cavs and lost to GS in fucking 2k16.


Well if one is losing against the computer, what can be said...
 
Think about that move. He not only PROBABLY fucked up his chances, but he also fucked up the future. Wiggins could be a solid peace for the next 10-12 years. I remember when I was in denial about the Love trade happening and even had Wiggins on my 2k squad.

They might have done that 30/30 shit too soon. If the Cavs don't come back, they'd have to mention this shit. :smh: Shit so bad for me right now I played as the Cavs and lost to GS in fucking 2k16.


Like said earlier had they not made that trade warriors trade love for Klay. Then he easily wins a ring for Cleveland
 
I kept telling these muthafuckas. Man you would have had Wiggins and Lebron defending the perimeter like a mini Wade and Lebron duo. Plus Wiggins can score. Now they would have another defender and he would balance out Love's scoring but they would have 20M to sign more talent. You can do a lot with 20M. It's a completely different squad with Wiggins and another similar player that can score and defend. And then you still have 10M left so sign a shooter.

Do you know that bastard Kyrie is shooting in the teens percentage-wise from 3pt land? He's missing that normal pullup that usually goes in. Because Bron wanted Wiggins out of town, now he has to either deal with Shump(who can't score) and Delly(who lost his shit) for defense OR deal with Kyrie and Smith for offensive which they seem to have lost.

This team better show up Wed and Fri. You know they say a series don't start until another team wins on the other teams court. Yeah, I'm reaching for shit at this point.
 
Like said earlier had they not made that trade warriors trade love for Klay. Then he easily wins a ring for Cleveland

Knowing Cleveland's luck, Love would be balling out in GS -- at least against the Cavs.

I could see it right the fuck know. Love putting up 20 and 10 and everyone saying how Cleveland should have made the trade. This Cleveland shit will have you believing in the supernatural. :smh:
 
Knowing Cleveland's luck, Love would be balling out in GS -- at least against the Cavs.

I could see it right the fuck know. Love putting up 20 and 10 and everyone saying how Cleveland should have made the trade. This Cleveland shit will have you believing in the supernatural. :smh:


Man I gotta :lol: at this
 
It's worked for him, just that they Dubs system does both at a high level...

Ball moment on point
Shooting on point
Defense on point
Attacking on point
Mind set on point

Besides the time that they lost to the Mavs, Lebron has lost to the same type of teams...when his team couldn't defend the perimeter and the perimeter shooters struggled. Think about it. Lebron is good enough to get his team out of the east consistently because it's historically bad, but what has been the winning formula when he's actually won a title. Think about it.
 
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Everybody keeps talking about LeBron should have stayed in Miami... I guess people don't realize the Heat would NOT be the same team they are now if he'd stayed! There would have been no Winslow, no Richardson, MIGHT have been Whiteside... D Wade was still getting older, Bosh would STILL have developed his conditions... That team had run their course with what they accomplished...

Also, understanding Love is what he is, he was who he was before he came to the Cavs It doesn't help that Dude to LeBron and Kyrie's style of play he has been relegated to a spot up 3 point shooter and not much room to at LEAST do what he does well. You change the dynamic of almost any players strengths and you will get less production...

There have been pages of Love dissing going on, a lot of what is deserved, but he WAS NOT the biggest issue last night, Kyrie had 4 points in the first minute of the game, 6 the rest of the game, LeBron got torched by the Warriors 3rd best offensive player, AND had 8 turnovers?!?!?

Love didn't even play the majority of the second half, and they were down single digits when he left the game.... His +/- was only minus 8 and they lost by 33 FUCKING POINTS! How the hell was that on him!?!?!?

LeBrons +/- was minus 20 and Kyrie's was minus 26, but yet somehow the loss was all on Love?!?!?!

You guys are comical with you biased viewpoints on games. Its hard as fuck to take some of you seriously some times, with the way you conveniently avoid shit because it doesn't fit the narrative you're trying to project! :lol:

Had he stayed in Miami and did a mini rebuild they would have the team the Heat has now even if it took for him to miss the playoffs for 1 year but they would have Winslow, Whiteside and Joe Johnson
 
Had he stayed in Miami and did a mini rebuild they would have the team the Heat has now even if it took for him to miss the playoffs for 1 year but they would have Winslow, Whiteside and Joe Johnson
Nah they wouldn't have Winslow. Bosh would have went elsewhere. Lebron would have done a max contract and they wouldn't miss the playoffs because the east is terrible. They would have put something together but nothing like u said. Because lebron and Wade both wouldn't be able to that many regular season games off also.
 
Lebron is supposed to be a basketball genius, right?

He has high on the court IQ, but putting a team together is a different animal. Remember even MJ was trying to run Pippen out of town when Pippen kept choking up against the Pistons. Management knew better... history could have been a lot different if management had listened to MJ.

People underestimate management and team-builders. You think it's a coincidence that Jerry West has been consulting for the Warriors. There is a difference between on the court bb IQ and then putting successful teams together.
 
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Dude was ONE GAME away from the finals... Add a few pieces, sign a one or two year deal with OKC, and see what's good. Why leave a team that seriously dominated the majority of the series with GS, to come to a team that even with him will have massive holes!?!?! :confused:

One game away and choked the other 3 lmaoo
 
Are you sure the money would work out that way?

They traded for Love when he was under his previous deal, and used his Bird rights to sign him to a max contract. I'm not sure that not trading Wiggins would flat-out result in 20 million more dollars under the cap.

The contract geniuses in here can work it out but I do know that Kove's contract was a 20M cap hit. Love has a cap hit of $19,689,000 while his dead money value is $113,211,750.
 
He has high on the court IQ, but putting a team together is a different animal. Remember even MJ was trying to run Pippen out of town when Pippen kept choking up against the Pistons. Management knew better... history could have been a lot different if management had listened to MJ.

People underestimate management and team-builders. You think it's a coincidence that Jerry West has been consulting for the Warriors. There is a difference between on the court bb IQ and then putting successful teams together.

That's why Lebron is going straight to TNT when his career is over. Think team owners ain't going to remember all this shit if Cavs don't win a chip?
 
Do you know that bastard Kyrie is shooting in the teens percentage-wise from 3pt land? He's missing that normal pullup that usually goes in. .

Because Kyrie isn't a pure shooter. He's a streaky shooter. You fear him getting hot but you don't fear him shooting jumpers. You want him chucking. Klay + Curry are pure shooters. Jr Smith is the same way. He's not a pure shooter, he's a streaky shooter.. the guy that can break a record over the first 3 series and then not buy a bucket in the Finals..just like did last year.

A guy like Ray Allen was a pure shooter. Durant and Dirk are pure shooters. Shit.. the Warriors are being coached by a play who are pure shooters.

Lebron had Wade as the two headed monster and had a bunch of guy who could spot up and consistently hit shots. They weren't streaky shooters...and that mean that Lebron could drive the lane (and players were scared to help) so he got way better looks or could be a much effective playmaker if the help did come.
 
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This thread turned from how the Cavs were going to beat the Warriors to how bad the Cavs are and the decisions with personnel they let LeBron make lmao


Yea within two games....that why I stayed away game 1, with 3 days
In between...fuck that shit!!!
 
The Cavs are still a good team it's just that they'll always struggle against a top team that's balanced on both sides of the ball because of all the inherent matchup problems they'll always have.

and the problem is that expecting muthafuckas like Love and Irving to be superstars in the final is a fool's bet... i was even foolish thinking they would step it up
 
Think about that move. He not only PROBABLY fucked up his chances, but he also fucked up the future. Wiggins could be a solid peace for the next 10-12 years. I remember when I was in denial about the Love trade happening and even had Wiggins on my 2k squad.

They might have done that 30/30 shit too soon. If the Cavs don't come back, they'd have to mention this shit. :smh: Shit so bad for me right now I played as the Cavs and lost to GS in fucking 2k16.

Remember why he did it though. 20/10 lifetime stats would tempt anybody.
 
He has high on the court IQ, but putting a team together is a different animal. Remember even MJ was trying to run Pippen out of town when Pippen kept choking up against the Pistons. Management knew better... history could have been a lot different if management had listened to MJ.

People underestimate management and team-builders. You think it's a coincidence that Jerry West has been consulting for the Warriors. There is a difference between on the court bb IQ and then putting successful teams together.


I didn't know that pip Jirdan story. Props.
He has high basketball IQ but refuses to establish a post game. That I don't understand.
 
This team better show up Wed and Fri. You know they say a series don't start until another team wins on the other teams court. Yeah, I'm reaching for shit at this point.

Man. They're going to win home games.. well at least one. I still think it's going six. The reason why it's not winnable for the Cavs is just because you can't expect them to be extraordinary. They "could" beat the Warrior, it's just they dont' have the type of players that show up. Remember, they were a Klay historic game away from getting their asses ran out of the playoffs 4-1.
 
The Cavs are still a good team it's just that they'll always struggle against a top team that's balanced on both sides of the ball because of all the inherent matchup problems they'll always have.

and the problem is that expecting muthafuckas like Love and Irving to be superstars in the final is a fool's bet... i was even foolish thinking they would step it up

Is this what you were saying before the series started?
 
I didn't know that pip Jirdan story. Props.
He has high basketball IQ but refuses to establish a post game. That I don't understand.

Yep. @alexw and I been talking about that shit for years.

If he could play from the post, it could open up so many things for his team... because he couldn't be defended one on one from the post if he knew how to play from there and would require help defense (and he's a great passer) so just good ball movement would be enough to get Love, irving, etc easy shots. They get those easy shots against average teams, but when you have a team like the Warriors that can play everyone straight up, the Cavs are getting forced to play ISO ball and Warriors can lock you down w/ that shit unless you have some real horses (like OKC had).
 
who can stop the warriors in the next 2/3 years?

its easy to see them win 4/5 in a row!

I used to think that too.. but they were a Klay historic performance away from being bounced out 4-1 in the conference finals. And once Curry gets that max contract, they're going to lose role players.. just the way shit is.. this all works. Curry is only making 11M.
 
What's scary is 2(Green and KT) of their superstars haven't even peaked yet. Coach is going to get better too. Just damn.

But how are they going to keep all the role players when Curry wants the max contract? Klay getting 17M. Green gonna be 16M, Curry is gonna get up to 23-24M, .. they're not gonna be able to have them and then have all those damn role players :lol: unless they just eat a massive tax bill
 
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I used to think that too.. but they were a Klay historic performance away from being bounced out 4-1 in the conference finals. And once Curry gets that max contract, they're going to lose role players.. just the way shit is.. this all works. Curry is only making 11M.

Who are the role players? Because them cats on the bench are not getting max deals no more plus they were career starters on other teams and been in the league 10+ years.. If anything their vet minimums will go up and they where get more than the minimum

Klay locked up, dray locked up.. Iggy ain't going no where... West still consulting..
 
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