2015-2016 NBA playoff edition: Finals - Cavs vs Warriors - Cavs win 4-3

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Nice breakdown. Adjustments are so important, but so are players doing what they are supposed to do.

As much as adjustments are important, it will eventually get to a point where if a team is just built to exploit your weaknesses, no matter what adjustments you make, your personnel is your personnel. What happened to Kerr and GS I believe is they were SO successful over the past 2 years with what they had and the system they run, the didn't look at Plan B, C, etc. Some of it is just their personnel matches up badly with OKC, plus, even though they were winning, a lot of what is going on now poked its head out earlier in the playoffs, but because the other teams couldn't CONSISTENTLY exploit the weaknesses, there was no real need to adjust...

Curry is getting beat up on the back screens and picks, how do you adjust for that? They are doing a great job crowding him with a big, and every one else is staying home on the other shooters. Thats a fallacy of the Warriors make up when essentially they have 2 great shooters, a decent shooter in Green and two non shooters in the line. Barkley may have been right, you take away the shooters, you have a problem.

These boys are in trouble, and I don't see them winning game 5 either. Mentally they have to be be broken or almost broken. They can still be a great team though, but this may be their year to get bumped. Jordan overcame the Jordan rules, LeBron made adjustments and won 2 chips, Curry and GS have to take away from this series, and work on what they see and come back better. They won't be able to cakewalk next season and beyond thats for sure. The blueprint is out...
 
As much as adjustments are important, it will eventually get to a point where if a team is just built to exploit your weaknesses, no matter what adjustments you make, your personnel is your personnel. What happened to Kerr and GS I believe is they were SO successful over the past 2 years with what they had and the system they run, the didn't look at Plan B, C, etc. Some of it is just their personnel matches up badly with OKC, plus, even though they were winning, a lot of what is going on now poked its head out earlier in the playoffs, but because the other teams couldn't CONSISTENTLY exploit the weaknesses, there was no real need to adjust...

Curry is getting beat up on the back screens and picks, how do you adjust for that? They are doing a great job crowding him with a big, and every one else is staying home on the other shooters. Thats a fallacy of the Warriors make up when essentially they have 2 great shooters, a decent shooter in Green and two non shooters in the line. Barkley may have been right, you take away the shooters, you have a problem.

These boys are in trouble, and I don't see them winning game 5 either. Mentally they have to be be broken or almost broken. They can still be a great team though, but this may be their year to get bumped. Jordan overcame the Jordan rules, LeBron made adjustments and won 2 chips, Curry and GS have to take away from this series, and work on what they see and come back better. They won't be able to cakewalk next season and beyond thats for sure. The blueprint is out...
I havent seen any games but its not many teams that have a Westbrook and Durant:hmm:; To say the blueprint is out, well what you describe has been happening to GS; its just teams dont have 2 top 5-10 superstars on their team...
 
And I don't hear anyone criticizing Kerr for his shit either. :rolleyes:

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I get back from vacation and the world has turned upside down:giggle:; GS is done:eek2::eek2: and Toronto isnt:hmm::eek2:; Sports can be crazy sometimes; I havent seen any games or highlights but it looks like OKC has been dominating:eek2:; I cant believe Toronto won not one, but two games against the Cavs:smh:; Clearly wrong about GS and OKC wow; I guess OKC has been playing very smart which is not typical of them( By the way, when you bros and siss go on vacation, turn your phones off; theres nothing like truly unplugging from the world); major props to OKC though; it will be interesting to see if what they do in the finals...
 
I havent seen any games but its not many teams that have a Westbrook and Durant:hmm:; To say the blueprint is out, well what you describe has been happening to GS; its just teams dont have 2 top 5-10 superstars on their team...

What up bro. Whats goin on wit your boys? They look like mere mortals.
 
I havent seen any games but its not many teams that have a Westbrook and Durant:hmm:; To say the blueprint is out, well what you describe has been happening to GS; its just teams dont have 2 top 5-10 superstars on their team...

Its not just about westbrook and durant offensively, but how OKC has figured out how to disrupt GS an Currys flow to basically make him ineffective. Thats the blue print I speak of, and to stay at home on the primary shooters to make swinging the ball,etc. more difficult and contesting all shots because they are staying home or switching effectively when needed...
 
What up bro. Whats goin on wit your boys? They look like mere mortals.
they finish :eek2:; but what up bro; been on vacation; no phones no computer no nothing; a true vacation pimp...but a im shocked about what Ive heard how they have played; I havent seen any games though so not sure why its happening...
 
Its not just about westbrook and durant offensively, but how OKC has figured out how to disrupt GS an Currys flow to basically make him ineffective. Thats the blue print I speak of, and to stay at home on the primary shooters to make swinging the ball,etc. more difficult and contesting all shots because they are staying home or switching effectively when needed...
but i was reading on espn how curry was 2-7 on wide open shots(0-5 on 3 point shots); thats not defense..thats something else going on; not sure what; I will try to watch every game later today...
 
Lotta ride or die GS fans ain't willing to die. look at all the rats trying to abandon the ship.

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If anyone can come back from a 3-1 deficit it's GS... They gotta win game 5 first which I expect they will in a big way..
Im shocked of the scores; seems like OKC has been dominating them; wasnt expecting that; I expected OKC to compete, but not dominate; that is very interesting to say the least...
 
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I know I am late to the party, but if OKC beat the Warriors next game, then I may low key root for Toronto just because I want to see a double upset. I didn't see the game, but I am sure Westbrook did his thing and maybe that team found a way to contain Curry & co. I wonder if the ratings would be negatively affected should the Finals be OKC vs. Toronto?

That shit would probably do better than we think...but that I mean slightly better than horrible



Come on man. Bills been on here for years trying to get Brooks fired. Stop looking for things when there isn't really anything there. Shit, I remember threads where Bills, myself and others talked about how Brooks was Mike Browning them.

My thing was KD needed a coach to stick up for him because Westbrook was taking over. Bills had a different take. We all agreed they needed a new coach for the next level.


Let's be real is it the coach, or the pieces...Westbrook damn near got into the playoffs last year without Ibaka, Adams or Kanter(don't remember which one), Durant down the stretch
 
That shit would probably do better than we think...but that I mean slightly better than horrible






Let's be real is it the coach, or the pieces...Westbrook damn near got into the playoffs last year without Ibaka, Adams or Kanter(don't remember which one), Durant down the stretch
True, I dont really think its the coach either but I havent watch any games so I cant say for sure; I do find it interesting that its really Westbrook team though; Durant is more of his side kick and that might be the coaches doing; I just think we, media, fans etc have overhyped Durant a little; Clearly it looks like Westbrook is in charge; It was definitely him in the Spurs series, and it looks like its him in this series...
 
but i was reading on espn how curry was 2-7 on wide open shots(0-5 on 3 point shots); thats not defense..thats something else going on; not sure what; I will try to watch every game later today...

It still is defense because they are bumping him, beating him up on screens and being extremely physical which does impact you as the game goes on. It's the equivalent of a boxer hitting another one on the arms, shoulders, hips.... he's not scoring but later in the fight hes slowing the other one down and affecting his output and game plan... They are wearing Steph down bruh, that does impact a jump shot
 
It still is defense because they are bumping him, beating him up on screens and being extremely physical which does impact you as the game goes on. It's the equivalent of a boxer hitting another one on the arms, shoulders, hips.... he's not scoring but later in the fight hes slowing the other one down and affecting his output and game plan... They are wearing Steph down bruh, that does impact a jump shot
true..i feel that; but I still think OKC having westbrook and durant is huge; both can take over games; I dont think any other team, outside of GS, can say they have multiple players that can take over games; maybe Cavs but thats it; that combination and also how Curry isnt responding seems like its working...
 
Kenny made a good point last night that Donavon always plays Westbook as a PG and never makes him a combo/SG like Brooks.
This had made him a better player

 
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true..i feel that; but I still think OKC having westbrook and durant is huge; both can take over games; I dont think any other team, outside of GS, can say they have multiple players that can take over games; maybe Cavs but thats it; that combination and also how Curry isnt responding seems like its working...

Offensively no doubt, but when things are flowing, GS can score with the best of them, and if things were on, I believe the sum of the parts would be greater than 2 superstars... but OKC has eventually shut down that flow. GS only scored 12 pts in the 4th quarter last night
 
Offensively no doubt, but when things are flowing, GS can score with the best of them, and if things were on, I believe the sum of the parts would be greater than 2 superstars... but OKC has eventually shut down that flow. GS only scored 12 pts in the 4th quarter last night
The defense for GS has been non existence it seems...
 
but i was reading on espn how curry was 2-7 on wide open shots(0-5 on 3 point shots); thats not defense..thats something else going on; not sure what; I will try to watch every game later today...

It's nothing it's just not falling.. What Steph needs to do is start going to tr basket put pressure on the defense and guys gotta start cuting to the basket with him and he needs to stop with the lazy passes..

Backs against the wall now
 
True, I dont really think its the coach either but I havent watch any games so I cant say for sure; I do find it interesting that its really Westbrook team though; Durant is more of his side kick and that might be the coaches doing; I just think we, media, fans etc have overhyped Durant a little; Clearly it looks like Westbrook is in charge; It was definitely him in the Spurs series, and it looks like its him in this series...


Man it's dudes motor...

High energy players ain't normally your best player but these last few years, I've seen that change....(gs, CheatCode & Green, OKC...Westbrook
 
It's nothing it's just not falling.. What Steph needs to do is start going to tr basket put pressure on the defense and guys gotta start cuting to the basket with him and he needs to stop with the lazy passes..

Backs against the wall now
So Okc defense hasn't been anything special? I'm just asking I don't know cuz you know I haven't seen any games
 
So Okc defense hasn't been anything special? I'm just asking I don't know cuz you know I haven't seen any games

Not really.. It's their length but a good way to beat length is attack attack attack not settle for long 3s.. No lazy passes because that length will poke those balls away...

Also they have to play straight up defense none of that leaving Roberson open or Ibaka shit because when OKC go small hey have Roberson at the center and Ibaka at the 4..

OKC beating Curry up on the screens but Curry can't settle on the 3..

Curry will figure it
 
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