Has Steph Curry supplanted LeBron as the 'Best Player in the World?' (CP Alert)

[LordSinister]

Le Bronze Stans >>> Kobe Stans

 

[Spectrum]

I like Bron, hope he wins it because Cleveland been so fucking sorry for so long until Bron. I hope he does. Man don't count out The Thunder either. The Spurs crying in the car with Larmarcus A. They will be back next year minus Duncan and Manu

Yeah.I would love to see Lebron win one in Cleveland. Thunder is another dark horse. They've also peaking at the right time. I think they're going to give the Warriors hell. I think they match up better with GS than with the Cavs though (not saying the Cavs are the better team).. but the Thunder have just never had a guy that could deal with Lebron. GS can put multiple bodies on him, but Warriors really just have nothing.

 

[Spectrum]

They haven't even played good ball so far in the playoffs not 1 complete game together and they're just warming up

Well. Curry missed a couple of weeks. I'm not saying they've played their best ball... but they even mentioned the pressure of getting to 73 was starting to build up at the end of the season.. they didn't choke up but they felt it. I think they'll feel it if they make the finals.. I don't think it will have an impact but certainly the Warriors will have more pressure to win that Cleveland. There was a time when people questioned if Cleveland would even make it out of the east when they hit that real bad patch.

 

[Spectrum]

On the other side, Lebron is going to feel A LOT of pressure if his squad is healthy. Also, Irving and Love will feel pressure to come through.

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You think Lebron will feel it?.I mean Lebron is used to playing in the Finals. I could see Irving and Love coming out tight. You're right...even with the low expectations, neither has been there.

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

Well. Curry missed a couple of weeks. I'm not saying they've played their best ball... but they even mentioned the pressure of getting to 73 was starting to build up at the end of the season.. they didn't choke up but they felt it. I think they'll feel it if they make the finals.. I don't think it will have an impact but certainly the Warriors will have more pressure to win that Cleveland. There was a time when people questioned if Cleveland would even make it out of the east when they hit that real bad patch.

Now everybody on the wagon and they swept the first two rounds if they sweep 3 better believe pressure will be equal bare minimum

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

There's enough pressure all around. GS beat an injury-plagued team last year. GS won 73 this year. Curry probably wants that MVP this time.

On the other side, Lebron is going to feel A LOT of pressure if his squad is healthy. Also, Irving and Love will feel pressure to come through.

There is indeed enough pressure in a Cavs vs GS final.

Media is just waiting for failure so they can go in....

For both sides.

Smh

 

[Spectrum]

Now everybody on the wagon and they swept the first two rounds if they sweep 3 better believe pressure will be equal bare minimum

You think so? I still think GS is overshadowing them because steph came back going all-world and it's not like they've beaten two good teams. Cavs have had one of the easiest roads imaginable to the conference finals.

but youre qualifying it based on another sweet. Yeah.. if they sweep all the way to the finals, it's different expectations game... underdogs but not major underdogs.

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

You think so? I still think GS is overshadowing them because steph came back going all-world and it's not like they've beaten two good teams. Cavs have had one of the easiest roads imaginable to the conference finals.

but youre qualifying it based on another sweet. Yeah.. if they sweep all the way to the finals, it's different expectations game... underdogs but not major underdogs.

They're not underdogs now.
Nobody mentions level of competition and truthfully shouldn't.
Like they shouldn't have last year but did lol.
We can net most pundits who got thru picking the spurs last series are going to pick the thunder this series

The problem is both teams have high expectations and pressure

Both teams are riding high and have star power

Both teams make a good story if they win and lose

Equal pressure imo but I don't really see the warriors having pressure moreso something to prove. Their pressure was last year to deliver a title to the town for the first time in 40 years.
That pressure now shifts to lebron to deliver for his city

 

[IT IS WHAT IT IS]

Sounds exactly like what someone around here has been saying all season.

Youve also been saying how much of a threat the Spurs were too

 

[Amajorfucup]

Youve also been saying how much of a threat the Spurs were too

67 wins and dominant ball the entire season looked pretty threatening to me. Lost a tough 6 game series where the refs possibly cost them one and absolutely played a part in another. Didnt see TD falling off a cliff so abruptly either.

 

[IT IS WHAT IT IS]

There's enough pressure all around. GS beat an injury-plagued team last year. GS won 73 this year. Curry probably wants that MVP this time.

On the other side, Lebron is going to feel A LOT of pressure if his squad is healthy. Also, Irving and Love will feel pressure to come through.

There is indeed enough pressure in a Cavs vs GS final.

Media is just waiting for failure so they can go in....

I feel you Gene and quite frankly IF both teams make the Finals, and that's a big IF, I Really at this point don't see a clear favorite with the way both teams are playing. I do know this series is not going to be won or lost by the way LeBron or Curry plays alone. There are a lot of intangibles at play so, I wouldn't be surprised to see the Cavs pull it out if healthy. I believe LeBron has another capture to his book to be written, that signature moment, and this very well could be it.

 

[BDR]

For both sides.

Smh

I told you put dude on clown status

 

[BDR]

Lebron and the Cavs winning the title this year fucks up the perfect season for Curry.

I honestly think the Cavs are going to shock people. They have zero pressure and they're peaking at the right time. It's a perfect underdog situation for them.

Bron has zero pressure

Love in his usual fashion will fold up like a cheap suit the moment he misses his first 4 shots plus he's a defensive liability

 

[IT IS WHAT IT IS]

Real rap, well I believe Curry in terms of current stature has surpassed LeBron at least for now, it's all relative. You don't just take a guy who has played at such a high level so long and just take a dump on them, LeBron has one Championship won MVP season away from reclaiming his throne if you will. In terms of overall stature, even though he's lost more than he's won, take away all the plea coppin about weak Eastern Conference, all the stuff what LeBron has done in terms of consistently get into the finals is on heard of. As much as I'm a fan of Curry, this is just a two-year run. I really think people need to pull up on LeBron comparison when you're comparing a guy who's had a great career and an exceptional two-year run to a guy who has had an exceptional career.

 

[Day_Carver]

Jump shot....that's it.

dribbler, penetrator, jump shot, free throw, dynamic, passer, anything on offense...thats it

 

[Day_Carver]

Westbrook
Leonard
Demarcus

[GALLERY=][/GALLERY]
Westbrook doesnt play better defense as Curry, and hes not as offensively dominant; Leonard isnt in the same league offensively as Curry; and I really cant even believe you said Demarcus

 

[BDR]

Niggas really don't get how next level this kid is..

His offensive game is so deadly that when Curry is on defense teams are scared to turn the ball over because they know those are automatic points especially if it's Green, Curry, Livingston, Iggy on the fast break..

You gotta play next to perfect offensively to get separation from GS..

 

[dat_cartel_boi]

Fuck no. The dickriding has to stop, please! GOAT when it comes to shooting and making crazy ass 3 pointers.

 

[IT IS WHAT IT IS]

Niggas really don't get how next level this kid is..

His offensive game is so deadly that when Curry is on defense teams are scared to turn the ball over because they know those are automatic points especially if it's Green, Curry, Livingston, Iggy on the fast break..

You gotta play next to perfect offensively to get separation from GS..

Not only that but no lead is safe. They may be the most explosive team ever. How many times have they been down double digits, you walk away for a few minutes and come back and theyre up 10!?!?!?

 

[IT IS WHAT IT IS]

Westbrook
Leonard
Demarcus

This Dude

 

[lazarus]

This is my last response I'm giving you. Reading comprehension causes people lots of problems. You niggas have such a hard time comprehending things that you don't even realize that there was never an argument about whether or not Curry would be the greatest player of all time. I clearly defined in the original post that "goat status" is a function of being an era-defining player and I listed a series of players that are often put in that category of player (and said there were many more that could be included over the decades of basketball).

Some of you cats struggle with some of the simplest shit. I used to list logical fallacies, but I don't waste the time anymore. But it's ridiculous that you guys continue to argue irrelevant shit and then come back with strawman arguments because you don't know to read + extract the basic premise when it's spelled out for you.

this is my last response to you. Intellect is missing in your life. You made a dumb ass post about calling someone GOAT after two MVPS and there's no point comparing when one hasn't even made a career. It is an argument because you asked can he be goat, dumbass. Your name is spectrum probably because you have a wide range of stupidity. I'm guessing you live with your moms, never went to school, and you think this is a clever question to ask everyone.
Dumbass.

 

[Day_Carver]

This Dude

its really ridiculous seriously...

 

[Day_Carver]

I feel you Gene and quite frankly IF both teams make the Finals, and that's a big IF, I Really at this point don't see a clear favorite with the way both teams are playing. I do know this series is not going to be won or lost by the way LeBron or Curry plays alone. There are a lot of intangibles at play so, I wouldn't be surprised to see the Cavs pull it out if healthy. I believe LeBron has another capture to his book to be written, that signature moment, and this very well could be it.

Let me remind you Cavs played Detroit and the Hawks...Cavs are playing the same way they played since Lue took over as coach; Nothing has changed; if so, please show me...

 

[BlackArsenic]

dribbler, penetrator, jump shot, free throw, dynamic, passer, anything on offense...thats it

A lot of corny niggas In here. Honestly,this whole thread is bait material. I don't believe Curry should be the MVP this season and him winning has more to do with the backlash of not picking a player from a team who broke the record and it just so happens he's the face of that franchise.

You have players like Lillard, James, Lowery, hell even Leonard who were all more critical to their teams success than Curry to the Warriors. Take any of those players out and none of those teams are winning above 40-45. Take Curry away, this team as is, is still winning a minimum of 50.

 

[Mrfreddygoodbud]

lebron aint thinkin about that shit,

he thinkin about bringin home that championship...

he knows that all he gots to do to get his title of the best

in teh game back..

he getting his team ready for that three point bonanza....

 

[Confucius]

Man. None of that qualifying shit is important (Who had different priorities or whatever is irrelevant) Who was the better player this season? You can just say Lebron if you believe it. But go have a seat somewhere if you're going to post stats from previous seasons or the mean of several seasons.

As someone else said earlier, they think Lebron was the better player this year because although his scoring is down, he's a better rebounder, had more assists, and much better and more versatile defender than Steph. That's the basis of a qualitative and quantitative argument for this season. That's valid for this season.

Stats from 2012 arent.

Was LaMarcus Aldridge a better player than Tim Duncan this year? Yes. Was Tim Duncan a better player than Aldridge during his peak? Yes. Did Tim Duncan have a wildly better career than that what Aldridge has so far? Yes

Shit's not hard. It's like you cats are unable to evaluate one season on its merit alone without injecting irrelevant shit.

I pretty much said the same in both of the Lebron Curry threads...you are reading some of my later posts

 

[Confucius]

You think so? I still think GS is overshadowing them because steph came back going all-world and it's not like they've beaten two good teams. Cavs have had one of the easiest roads imaginable to the conference finals.

but youre qualifying it based on another sweet. Yeah.. if they sweep all the way to the finals, it's different expectations game... underdogs but not major underdogs.

Dude GS beat HOUSTON and PORTLAND to get there...

 

[Confucius]

[GALLERY=][/GALLERY]
Westbrook doesnt play better defense as Curry, and hes not as offensively dominant; Leonard isnt in the same league offensively as Curry; and I really cant even believe you said Demarcus

This Dude

NBA Regular Season Stats
Stats Per Game
Points Per Game
Stephen Curry 22.4

Russell Westbrook 21.5

Rebounds Per Game
Stephen Curry 4.3

Russell Westbrook 5.6

Assists Per Game
Stephen Curry 6.9

Russell Westbrook 7.6

Steals Per Game
Stephen Curry 1.8

Russell Westbrook 1.7

Blocks Per Game
Stephen Curry 0.2

Russell Westbrook 0.3

Totals Stats
Total Points
Stephen Curry 11,089

Russell Westbrook 12,598

Total Rebounds
Stephen Curry 2,149

Russell Westbrook 3,285

Total Assists
Stephen Curry 3,393

Russell Westbrook 4,453

Total Steals
Stephen Curry 885

Russell Westbrook 1,021

Total Blocks
Stephen Curry 104

Russell Westbrook 166

Total Games
Stephen Curry 495

Russell Westbrook 587

 

[Confucius]

NBA Regular Season Stats
Stats Per Game
Points Per Game
Stephen Curry 22.4

Kawhi Leonard 14.3

Rebounds Per Game
Stephen Curry 4.3

Kawhi Leonard 6.3

Assists Per Game
Stephen Curry 6.9

Kawhi Leonard 2.0

Steals Per Game
Stephen Curry 1.8

Kawhi Leonard 1.8

Blocks Per Game
Stephen Curry 0.2

Kawhi Leonard 0.7

Totals Stats
Total Points
Stephen Curry 11,089

Kawhi Leonard 4,620

Total Rebounds
Stephen Curry 2,149

Kawhi Leonard 2,039

Total Assists
Stephen Curry 3,393

Kawhi Leonard 643

Total Steals
Stephen Curry 885

Kawhi Leonard 572

Total Blocks
Stephen Curry 104

Kawhi Leonard 225

Total Games
Stephen Curry 495

Kawhi Leonard 324

 

[Confucius]

DeMarcus Cousins 20.2

Stephen Curry 22.4

Rebounds Per Game
DeMarcus Cousins 10.8

Stephen Curry 4.3

Assists Per Game
DeMarcus Cousins 2.7

Stephen Curry 6.9

Steals Per Game
DeMarcus Cousins 1.4

Stephen Curry 1.8

Blocks Per Game
DeMarcus Cousins 1.2

Stephen Curry 0.2

 

[Confucius]

^^^^^^
we are talking about defense and rebounds...Dont look that far fetched for Leonard and Westbrook to me...Cousins is a Big with comp defense stats
Leonard played 170 fewer games than dude

 

[IT IS WHAT IT IS]

Let me remind you Cavs played Detroit and the Hawks...Cavs are playing the same way they played since Lue took over as coach; Nothing has changed; if so, please show me...

Man listen... I dont wanna mix in with you chief! If thats how you see it..... Then.... FUCK LEBRON!

 

[IT IS WHAT IT IS]

^^^^^^
we are talking about defense and rebounds...Dont look that far fetched for Leonard and Westbrook to me...Cousins is a Big with comp defense stats
Leonard played 170 fewer games than dude

Ok... You can yell a nigga that doesnt know shit about basketball whatsoever. Google is your friend though. Now, watch some games or even play a little bit, and then you will truly understand how stupid the points you are trying to make are. Im seriously not trying to be funny. Im trying to help you because i see you are giving geniune effort with this and I appreciate your energy...

 

[Spectrum]

Dude GS beat HOUSTON and PORTLAND to get there...

apples and oranges though... GS won 73 games and dominated the league's top teams this season. On the other hand, Cleveland struggled against the league's top teams so people don't know if sweeping the pistons and hawks is that meaningful.

Doesnt matter who GS beat to get there because they beat everyone's ass all season.

 

[MonkeyBizness]

@Confucius Listing Steph's per game stats means nothing. How many 4th quarters did he not play because his team was mollywhopping the opponent? You need advanced metrics to gauge his numbers.

Re: The Cavs. It's been impossible to measure how good any of the Eastern Conference Champs have been for years now because the East has been so mediocre to historically bad. When you regularly have sub-.500 teams in the postseason, a dominant Eastern Conference Champ means very little.

It's easy to say the Cavs are peaking when they are playing teams that may not even made the playoffs if they were in the West. The true test always comes in the Finals.