Black Lives Matter is LGBTQ & White Progressive Propaganda in blackface.

[respiration]

That's a straw man argument. I never said they did. So, you're arguing against your own assertion. Clever.

Your OP is a straw man.

More bizzare than BLM omitting 48% of the community you claim to be representing--even though they account for overwhelming majority of police killings in that community?

So, BLM can actively seek justice for the murders of Black men and boys by police, but since you didn't see Black men and boys mentioned in a guidelines on one of their websites, none of that is relevant. Huh. Never mind that continuously on social media and the news you've seen BLM protesting, disrupting and advocating on behalf of Michael Brown, Eric Garner, Tamir Rice, Freddie Gray, Laquan McDonald, Ronald Johnson. So then what are you on about?

Another straw man argument. I never said I need BLM's "validation". I question why they are so eager to affirm the LGBTQ's, Women, and Mothers; but not Black Males and Fathers; and I believe their is a hostility behind it.

Do you actually somehow feel victimized by BLM?

I also notice how you are using validation as a synonym for insecurity. The founders of Black Lives Matter routinely state that a portion of their impetus for starting their organization was their perception that Black Women and LGBTQ had been marginalized and needed their work for Black civil rights to be validated. Does this make them insecure in your judgement?

Not at all. They have been marginalized.

The National Action Network, (who's attorney Benjamin Crump, represented the family's of both Trayvon Martin and Michael Brown) and the Nation of Islam which held another Million Man March, and many other black civil rights groups could make the very same claims.

You're actually trying to compare those groups with a grassroots organization who DAILY all around the country is actively fighting against the epidemic of police murders of Black people? What tangible thing did the second Million Man March accomplish toward those goals? C'mon bro. Just because you choose to look away doesn't mean that BLM isn't there.

Some or all could be true or false. The real fact is there is really no way of knowing the how "hugely instrumental" BLM or any other group has been "in keeping the national focus on the issue of unprosecuted murders of Black people by police."

But, I do understand the importance of making these claims in order for groups to fundraise and bolster their political relevance and name recognition. And, I ain't mad about it.

Influence.
A simple google search yielded the following:
National Action Network: search results = 350,000
Million Man March 2015: search results = 41,000
Black Lives Matter: search results = 9,780,000

...And this group who received almost 10 million hits, specifically dedicates itself to justice for families and reform to the present system of policing.

Your ad hominem attack about eyesight aside, they key term here is "attributable". It is BLM which self-attributing responsibility for making "unprecedented and important victories".

My bad bro. I was speaking figuratively. Didn't mean that eyesight comment as a personal attack. BLM didn't use that language ("unprecedented and important"). I used it and it is accurate. The people collectively made these things happen in Chicago. You see those are some of the things that people organized can accomplish. Here are others:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...-achieved-in-2015_us_567996bae4b0b958f6583320
http://www.alternet.org/activism/8-...s-matter-movement-most-people-dont-know-about
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/12/black-lives-matter/421839/

I give attributes to Black Lives Matter for being the most clever marketing tool the Gay and White Progressive communities have ever unleashed on the Black Community.

It's pretty ingenius to create a Trojan black civil rights group to pacify opposition in the Black Community to their agendas. That's some, Sith Lord, "Order 66" shit there!

You should consider looking into how to utilize your tin foil hat to serve double duty as a solar panel. Help save the planet while cooking up conspiracies! lol

As I have said before, I do not invalidate the valor nor the efforts of the Black Lives Matter foot soldier. I am sure many are sincere and well-meaning people who want to help the Black Community. But they either don't understand how they are being duped or they are now too emotionally vested in the deception to walk away from it.

...Because they are only sheep, right? Brother, you don't know what you're talking about. I honestly mean no disrespect on a personal level in saying that. I don't know any other way to put it. You have not been to any planning sessions or taken part in any of their internal discussions to have even an inkling of what they are about, what they plan, what the long game is, etc - nor do you know firsthand what goes on behind the scenes or what challenges they face or about their imminent enemies. The conspiracy is in your imagination.

Clearly you don't keep up with BLM's actions either or else you wouldn't have made this thread. I understand you're wanting to be right, but there is no dignity lost in admitting that you just don't know something.

Thank you, but I also believe strong black families, strong black businesses, strong black educational and religious institutions, along with other strong black organizations are also ongoing collective actions--provided they are committed to Black Empowerment.


I think just being a got damn strong black man, despite the onslaught against Black Manhood, is an excellent form of activism--but others may differ.

Nevertheless, peace to you too my brother!

RE/ your words in bold: What in your assessment constitutes a strong Black man? Taking care of family? Paying bills? Buying Black? Being a responsible man and example of a good leader to the women in your life? All good things. But they are not activism. I also believe in those things you listed, wholeheartedly - especially geared towards Black liberation. I absolutely support those thing because they are absolutely important. It is also true that white supremacy despises and fears Black manhood.

Do you. That which you do in this life that is positive, I would never tear down nor disrespect. When I asked you the question that started your and my dialogue, a number of your answers could have been speaking of me too. The battle for our liberation is multi-tiered. YOU do not have to be on the front lines of the protest movement. As things change for the better, I will receive joy in seeing you and yours benefit from those hard fought gains.

I don't know how old you are, but I would wager that it is younger than me. A word from someone who transitioned from boy to man, many many years ago:
If you have an opportunity to learn something from someone who has "been there", respect the learning opportunity and be open-minded to receive new knowledge and refine and sharpen your worldview. Each day is a new blackboard upon which a new lesson can be outlined.

A political activists or activism organization is no more important than the others. Nothing is more insufferable than a motherfucker who thinks they're doing more than anyone else because they're out protesting.

Dr. King and the SCLC did their thing and Malcolm and the OAAU was beginning to do theirs. Different starting points, different paths but same end destination. There is space for all groups who are sincerely devoted to the liberation of Black folks from the clutches of white supremacy.

As for the part in black, I think that's a strange statement. If it was directed at me, I would first of all say that yes, I have fucked a number of mothers in my time and enjoyed it, so I don't take it as a perjorative. Secondly, as an imperfect person, I cannot judge another's essential worth. All are creations of the Almighty and are loved equally. Whatever I do for this movement, I do because I believe in justice. I do it because I love Black people. Those around me have a similar mindset. It isn't for glory or name recognition or to perceive oneself as better than another.

There is one way I personally benefit though. Before becoming active, I used to hear and watch the news stories of Brothers and Sisters getting murdered by police and experience feelings of despair, powerlessness and unfocused anger at the injustice. Becoming part of the change that I wanted to see, changed my mindset. It gave me hope and sharpened my eyesight to see areas of progress (that the news doesn't cover) and to work with others to bring liberation and justice.

 

[respiration]

My brother......

Peace.

In terms of an official manifesto of BLM, the "guidelines" you found on the website is not it. Chicago's BLM chapter founder is in agreement with me that those guidelines are incomplete.

THIS is probably the closest you will get to an "official" manifesto or statement of purpose of Black Lives Matter:

Black Lives Matter activists have released a 10 point plan to address abuses by US police forces after critics said that the group has lacked direction.

http://www.joincampaignzero.org/#vision

We can live in a world where the police don't kill people
by limiting police interventions, improving community interactions, and ensuring accountability.
CLICK THE CATEGORIES BELOW FOR POLICY SOLUTIONS (DOWNLOAD THIS GRAPHIC)










*This site will be updated continuously in response to the ideas and insights of activists, organizers and concerned citizens nationwide.

 

[Fred Sanford]

Peace.

In terms of an official manifesto of BLM, the "guidelines" you found on the website is not it. Chicago's BLM chapter founder is in agreement with me that those guidelines are incomplete.

THIS is probably the closest you will get to an "official" manifesto or statement of purpose of Black Lives Matter:

Black Lives Matter activists have released a 10 point plan to address abuses by US police forces after critics said that the group has lacked direction.

http://www.joincampaignzero.org/#vision

We can live in a world where the police don't kill people
by limiting police interventions, improving community interactions, and ensuring accountability.
CLICK THE CATEGORIES BELOW FOR POLICY SOLUTIONS (DOWNLOAD THIS GRAPHIC)










*This site will be updated continuously in response to the ideas and insights of activists, organizers and concerned citizens nationwide.

I do not have any problem with these objectives of the Project Zero Campaign, pertaining to Police Violence. I think they are all good measures and I fully support them. But the statement is attributed to an organization called "We The Protestors" and in their "Executive Summary" they listed both Deray (Deray Mckesson) and Nettaaaaaaaa (Johnetta Elzie) as the contacts.

Here's the link:
http://www.wetheprotesters.org/exe-sum-and-overview

However in an earlier response, below, to @DaAssWatcher, you stated that neither Deray nor Netta were members of Black Lives Matter; yet you now have attributed the Project Zero Campaign from "We The Protestors" to Black Lives Matter.

Nothing weird about that at all. That was to be expected. They are holding up Netta as well. Neither is in BLM. Both are centrists and vocal advocates for charter schools.

What's going on here, my brother? There appears to be several major contradictions here. Can you explain?

1. Is the Project Zero Campaign the work of Black Lives Matter?

2. Is We The Protestors the same as Black Lives Matter?

3. Are either Deray Mckesson or Johnetta "Netta" Elzie members of Black Lives Matter?

4. Does Black Lives Matter just appropriate anything other groups do and then attribute it to itself?

 

[Fred Sanford]

I do not have any problem with these objectives of the Project Zero Campaign, pertaining to Police Violence. I think they are all good measures and I fully support them. But the statement is attributed to an organization called "We The Protestors" and in their "Executive Summary" they listed both Deray (Deray Mckesson) and Nettaaaaaaaa (Johnetta Elzie) as the contacts.

Here's the link:
http://www.wetheprotesters.org/exe-sum-and-overview

However in an earlier response, below, to @DaAssWatcher, you stated that neither Deray nor Netta were members of Black Lives Matter; yet you now have attributed the Project Zero Campaign from "We The Protestors" to Black Lives Matter.



What's going on here, my brother? There appears to be several major contradictions here. Can you explain?

1. Is the Project Zero Campaign the work of Black Lives Matter?

2. Is We The Protestors the same as Black Lives Matter?

3. Are either Deray Mckesson or Johnetta "Netta" Elzie members of Black Lives Matter?

4. Does Black Lives Matter just appropriate anything other groups do and then attribute it to itself?

Black Lives Matter responds to why Black Males (48% of the Black Community) and black Fathers are omitted from their "13 guiding principles" and "11 misconceptions" statements on their OWN website...by pointing you to another website--with, by the way, some very good goals (called Project Zero) for ending police violence.

Then you notice that this other site doesn't say anything about Black Lives Matter. And, you also point out that this other website appears to belong to another group (called We The Protesters) affiliated with 2 individuals (Deray and Netta) that the Black Lives Matter's advocate earlier said, "neither is in BLM"--and there has since been silence.

To date, in my opinion, all Black Lives Matter advocates really have said about these obvious contradictions and omissions, is....

 

[respiration]

I do not have any problem with these objectives of the Project Zero Campaign, pertaining to Police Violence. I think they are all good measures and I fully support them. But the statement is attributed to an organization called "We The Protestors" and in their "Executive Summary" they listed both Deray (Deray Mckesson) and Nettaaaaaaaa (Johnetta Elzie) as the contacts.

Here's the link:
http://www.wetheprotesters.org/exe-sum-and-overview

However in an earlier response, below, to @DaAssWatcher, you stated that neither Deray nor Netta were members of Black Lives Matter; yet you now have attributed the Project Zero Campaign from "We The Protestors" to Black Lives Matter.



What's going on here, my brother? There appears to be several major contradictions here. Can you explain?

1. Is the Project Zero Campaign the work of Black Lives Matter?

2. Is We The Protestors the same as Black Lives Matter?

3. Are either Deray Mckesson or Johnetta "Netta" Elzie members of Black Lives Matter?

4. Does Black Lives Matter just appropriate anything other groups do to help the Black Community and attribute it to itself?

Fred Sanford,
During my absence, I spoke to one more knowledgeable than myself on this topic and found that I was in error.

On speaking to A.P., last night she let me know that Campaign Zero is in no way a part of Black Lives Matter and is not affiliated with them. That is Netta and Deray's group. Although they might share some ideas and principles with BLM - they are by far not the same entity. As for your question #4, no Black Lives Matter does not do that. Netta and Deray do like to mention their names in conjunction with BLM, however, though they are not BLM members. I thank you for pointing out the discrepancy regarding Campaign Zero. As I alluded to before, there is no indignity in admitting error. That applies to me too.

 

[respiration]

Black Lives Matter responds to why Black Males (48% of the Black Community) and black Fathers are omitted from their "13 guiding principles" and "11 misconceptions" statements on their OWN website...by pointing you to another website--with, by the way, some very good goals (called Project Zero) for ending police violence.

Then you notice that this other site doesn't say anything about Black Lives Matter. And, you also point out that this other website appears to belong to another group (called We The Protesters) affiliated with 2 individuals (Deray and Netta) that the Black Lives Matter's advocate earlier said, "neither is in BLM"--and there has since been silence.

To date, in my opinion, all Black Lives Matter advocates really have said about these obvious contradictions and omissions, is....

The part in bold is not making sense to me. Which Black Lives Matter leader(s) have you begun a dialogue with and asked about why in your assessment: "(48% of the Black Community) and black Fathers are omitted" ? I don't see any indication that the lack of a specific mention indicates "BLM = anti-Black father" . I never saw that specifically stated.

What I can tell you is that at many of the actions I've been to - particularly the larger ones there have always been many Black men in attendance - some with their children. There have also been teachers and their classes as well as many, many folks from the community in participation. The"guidelines" that you quoted are just one among many statements of purpose. The hierarchy of BLM does not have an authoritarian figure or group at the top that dictates what each individual chapter who makes up the body of BLM will do.

Here is BLM co-founder Patrisse Cullors on the structure of Black Lives Matter:
"Cullors says, “The consequence of focusing on a leader is that you develop a necessity for that leader to be the one who’s the spokesperson and the organizer, who tells the masses where to go, rather than the masses understanding that we can catalyze a movement in our own community.” Or, as Garza put it, “The model of the black preacher leading people to the promised land isn’t working right now.” Jesse Jackson—a former aide to King and a two-time Presidential candidate, who won seven primaries and four caucuses in 1988—was booed when he tried to address young protesters in Ferguson, who saw him as an interloper. That response was seen as indicative of a generational divide. But the divide was as much philosophical as it was generational, and one that was visible half a century earlier."

Garza, Cullors, and Tometi advocate a horizontal ethic of organizing, which favors democratic inclusion at the grassroots level. Black Lives Matter emerged as a modern extension of Ella Baker’s thinking—a preference for ten thousand candles rather than a single spotlight. In a way, they created the context and the movement created itself. “Really, the genesis of the organization was the people who organized in their cities for the ride to Ferguson,” Garza told me in her office. Those people, she said, “pushed us to create a chapter structure. They wanted to continue to do this work together, and be connected to activists and organizers from across the country.” There are now more than thirty Black Lives Matter chapters in the United States, and one in Toronto. They vary in structure and emphasis, and operate with a great deal of latitude, particularly when it comes to choosing what “actions” to stage.

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/03/14/where-is-black-lives-matter-headed

________________________________________________________________

To date there are 33 chapters of Black Lives Matter. There are not 33 independent websites -one for each chapter. Yet the individual chapters do have either a Facebook presence, a Twitter presence or both. Here are some of their individual statements of purpose:

http://www.blacklivesmattermpls.org/ (Minneapolis, MN Chapter):
"Black Lives Matter is an ideological and political intervention in a world where Black lives are systematically and intentionally targeted for demise. It is an affirmation of Black folks’ contributions to this society, our humanity, and our resilience in the face of deadly oppression.

#BlackLivesMatter was created by the Black Queer women; Alicia Garza, Patrisse Cullors and Opal Tometi as a call to action for Black people after 17-year-old Trayvon Martin was post-humously placed on trial for his own murder and the killer, George Zimmerman, was not held accountable for the crime he committed. It was a response to the anti-Black racism that permeates our society and also, unfortunately, our movements.

Black Lives Matter Minneapolis is an extension of this, when several of us stepped forward when the community asked, “and how will Minnesota respond?”. Organizers in Minneapolis acted quickly to highlight that while Minnesota boosts being a liberal bastion, our state remains one of the worst places for Black people in the country."

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https://twitter.com/BLMPDX (Portland Chapter)
"We are Portland's chapter of #BlackLivesMatter. Black folks united in the struggle for Black Liberation. "

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Black Lives Matter: Los Angeles, CA (Facebook group)
"#BlackLivesMatter is an online forum intended to build connections between Black people and our allies to fight anti-Black racism, to spark dialogue amongst Black people, and to facilitate the types of connections necessary to encourage social action and engagement."

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Black Lives Matter: Memphis, TN (Facebook group)
"This page promotes BLACK LIVES IN SHELBY COUNTY & MEMPHIS TN
BLACK LIVES DO MATTER
28 BLACKS HAVE BEEN MURDERED BY POLICE IN 2 YEARS IN THIS CITY! STOP THE VIOLENCE"

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Black Lives Matter: Pasadena, CA (Facebook group)
"#BLMDena is an online forum intended to build connections between Black people and our allies to fight anti-Black racism in the city of Pasadena, to spark dialogue amongst Black people, and to facilitate the types of connections necessary to encourage social action and engagement."

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Black Lives Matter: Williamsburg, VA (Facebook Group)
"Black Lives Matter – Williamsburg is dedicated to dismantling institutional racism, in particular as it relates to the criminal justice system and the commodification of Black lives and Black bodies.


As a movement we seek to raise awareness of the persistent devaluation of black lives; recognize the detrimental effects of Jim Crow, both past and present; function as a conduit for increased social citizenship in both organizations within the Williamsburg community and at the College of William and Mary; and empower the understanding of racialized issues to generate cultural proficiency, dialogue, and lasting change in attitudes and policies. We seek to be agents of reconciliation by aiding in the healing and restoration of broken cross-racial relationships."


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Black Lives Matter: Roanoke VA (Facebook Group)
"Supporting all things important to Black Lives; because Black Lives Matter in Roanoke..."

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Black Lives Matter: Long Beach, CA (Facebook Group)
"#BlackLivesMatter #LBC is a local organizing effort in Long Beach, CA, in solidarity with the national an global #BlackLivesMatter movement. We are Black-led, women affirming, queer, and working-class affirming organization that seeks Black liberation, and accordingly liberation for all people. Our demands are majority local, but tie-in to regional, national, and international organizing efforts by #BlackLivesMatter. #BlackLivesMatter #LBC is organized by Taylor Thomas, Dawn Modkins, Audrena Redmond, Kenyon Davis, and Michael Brown."

Black Lives Matter: Cincinnati, OH (Facebook Group)
"Dedicated to educating others on the true source of systemic injustice against African Americans."

 

[Lexx Diamond]

I'm just going to leave this right here. http://www.bgol.us/forum/index.php?...-the-2016-celebration-of-lgbtqi-pride.889276/

 

[Fred Sanford]

I'm just going to leave this right here. http://www.bgol.us/forum/index.php?...-the-2016-celebration-of-lgbtqi-pride.889276/

Thanks for posting this @LexxDiamond!

Black Lives Matter to Help Lead San Francisco Pride Parade
https://www.colorlines.com/articles/black-lives-matter-help-lead-san-francisco-pride-parade
The group has been named the organizational grand marshal for the 2016 celebration of LGBTQI pride.


Kenrya Rankin MAR 14, 2016 3:00PM EDT

Dwayne Edwards salutes City Hall after the San Francisco Gay Pride Parade, June 28, 2015, in San Francisco, California.
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In a move that illustrates the intersectionality of the Black Lives Matter (BLM) movement and the work of activists who advocate for LGBTQI rights, the San Francisco Lesbian Gay Bisexual Transgender Pride Celebration Committee has named BLM as one of its grand marshals for the 2016 pride parade.

The 46th annual San Francisco Pride Parade is scheduled for June 26, and this year’s theme is “For Racial and Economic Justice.” SFist reportsthat the parade typically has about 13 grand marshals each year. Black Lives Matter will serve as the organizational grand marshal; co-founder Alicia Garza was a grand marshal in 2015. It’s an honor that closely aligns with the mission of the organization, which includes the following passage:

[Black Lives Matter] goes beyond the narrow nationalism that can be prevalent within Black communities, which merely call on Black people to love Black, live Black and buy Black, keeping straight cis Black men in the front of the movement while our sisters, queer and trans and disabled folk take up roles in the background or not at all.

Black Lives Matter affirms the lives of Black queer and trans folks, disabled folks, black-undocumented folks, folks with records, women and all Black lives along the gender spectrum. It centers those that have been marginalized within Black liberation movements. It is a tactic to (re)build the Black liberation movement.

The group also announced two other grand marshals, both of whom are people of color. Larry Yang, who has helped to create several LGBTQI meditation groups in the Bay Area, will be the community grand marshal. And Janetta Johnson, executive director of the Transgender Gender Variant and Intersex Justice Project, is the member’s choice for community grand marshal.

 

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[actinanass]

We Affirm that All Black Lives Matter
http://blacklivesmatter.com/guiding-principles/
Black Lives Matter is an ideological and political intervention in a world where Black lives are systematically and intentionally targeted for demise. It is an affirmation of Black folks’ contributions to this society, our humanity, and our resilience in the face of deadly oppression.

Diversity
We are committed to acknowledging, respecting and celebrating difference(s) and commonalities.

Restorative Justice
We are committed to collectively, lovingly and courageously working vigorously for freedom and justice for Black people and, by extension all people. As we forge our path, we intentionally build and nurture a beloved community that is bonded together through a beautiful struggle that is restorative, not depleting.

Unapologetically Black
We are unapologetically Black in our positioning. In affirming that Black Lives Matter, we need not qualify our position. To love and desire freedom and justice for ourselves is a necessary prerequisite for wanting the same for others.

Globalism
We see ourselves as part of the global Black family and we are aware of the different ways we are impacted or privileged as Black folk who exist in different parts of the world

Black Women
We are committed to building a Black women affirming space free from sexism, misogyny, and male‐centeredness.

Collective Value
We are guided by the fact all Black lives, regardless of actual or perceived sexual identity, gender identity, gender expression, economic status, ability, disability, religious beliefs or disbeliefs, immigration status or location

Transgender Affirming
We are committed to embracing and making space for trans brothers and sisters to participate and lead. We are committed to being self-reflexive and doing the work required to dismantle cis-gender privilege and uplift Black trans folk, especially Black trans women who continue to be disproportionately impacted by trans-antagonistic violence.

Black Villages
We are committed to disrupting the Western-prescribed nuclear family structure requirement by supporting each other as extended families and “villages” that collectively care for one another, and especially “our” children to the degree that mothers, parents and children are comfortable.

Empathy
We are committed to practicing empathy; we engage comrades with the intent to learn about and connect with their contexts.

Black Families
We are committed to making our spaces family-friendly and enable parents to fully participate with their children. We are committed to dismantling the patriarchal practice that requires mothers to work “double shifts” that require them to mother in private even as they participate in justice work.

Loving Engagement
We are committed to embodying and practicing justice, liberation, and peace in our engagements with one another.

Queer Affirming
We are committed to fostering a queer‐affirming network. When we gather, we do so with the intention of freeing ourselves from the tight grip of heteronormative thinking or, rather, the belief that all in the world are heterosexual unless s/he or they disclose otherwise.

Intergenerational
We are committed to fostering an intergenerational and communal network free from ageism. We believe that all people, regardless of age, shows up with capacity to lead and learn.


Did anyone find ANYTHING about the Black men, fathers, or males--except as a pejorative--mentioned in any of Black Lives Matter 13 guiding principles? Yet, who has been the primary face of black martyrdom at the hands of the police--the black man. Who's, by far, the most endangered member of the Black Community--the black male. Who is by far the most marginalized and maligned parent in the Black Community--the black father. Yet out of 13 principle--the black male does not matter to Black Lives Matters unless he's killed--then he's a useful propaganda tool. And, no mention whatsoever of Black Economic Empowerment.

And, perhaps I missed it...but did anyone read anything about White Supremacy? Where did he run off too? I thought that was another major principle of Black Lives Matter, at least that's what they say in the media? Where did Mr. White Supremacist go? I guess he changed his ways and nobody at Black Lives Matter told us.

Damn...I don't know what else you Negroes need to see to realize that Black Lives Matters is not a true advocate for the values of the Black Community--because the Black Community, our community, does want strong black men as husbands, fathers, and role models. And, our Black Community does want Black Economic Empowerment. And our Black Community does believe systematic racism/White Supremacy is one of the major obstacles in our path.

How does a movement that, allegedly, came from us and is about us and is one of us, not really know our values and guiding principles---because it is not a Black movement at all. My people, you've been hoodwinked....bamboozled....led astray....again.

I hate to say it, but this dude has a point.

 

[Fred Sanford]

I hate to say it, but this dude has a point.

Thanks, but I hate that I am right too because I do not like to see my People duped into being mules for the Gay & White Progressive Community agendas. And for the benefit of them who still do not believe...here's some more evidence that Black Lives Matter is nothing but a marketing tactic/propaganda to pacify the Black Community toward LGBTQ's and the Democrat Party, not Black Empowerment.

Let's continue to connect the dots, shall we:

There's an organization called GLAAD--the Gay & Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation. This is the mission of GLAAD from its own website with the emphasis on the key points the Black Community needs to be aware of:
http://www.glaad.org/about

About GLAAD

Leading the conversation. Shaping the media narrative. Changing the culture. That's GLAAD at work.

Our areas of expertise
News Media

GLAAD works with print, broadcast and online news sources to bring people powerful stories from the LGBT community that build support for equality. And when news outlets get it wrong, GLAAD is there to respond and advocate for fairness and accuracy.

Entertainment Media

GLAAD brings LGBT characters and plotlines to movie theaters, television sets and even comic books -- working with writers, producers and studios to ensure accurate and diverse representations of LGBT people on the big and small screens.

Spanish-language and Latino media

GLAAD works to share stories from the LGBT community in Spanish-language and Latino media, helping to increase understanding and support among the Spanish-speaking community, the fastest-growing population in the country.

Communications & Digital strategy

GLAAD serves as the communications epicenter of the LGBT movement, equipping advocacy leaders with the tools they need to communicate more effectively. GLAAD is also reinventing the way social media moves equality forward.


It's personal
GLAAD rewrites the script for LGBT acceptance. As a dynamic media force, GLAAD tackles tough issues to shape the narrative and provoke dialogue that leads to cultural change. GLAAD protects all that has been accomplished and creates a world where everyone can live the life they love.







Now...there's another organization called "ColorofChange.org". Here is their mission from their own website (with emphasis added):

What Is ColorOfChange.org?


ColorOfChange.org exists to strengthen Black America's political voice. Our goal is to empower our members - Black Americans and our allies - to make government more responsive to the concerns of Black Americans and to bring about positive political and social change for everyone.


We were heart-broken and outraged by the catastrophe that followed Hurricane Katrina. And we were devastated to realize that no African-American organization or coalition had the capacity to respond on the necessary scale.

Hurricane Katrina made it clear that our lack of a political voice has life-and-death consequences. With no one to speak for them, hundreds of thousands of people - largely Black, poor, and elderly - were left behind to die. But it wasn't just Black folks. Poor, sick, and elderly people of every color were abandoned too. We are not alone, and when we work to protect Black lives and interests, we do the same for all who have been left behind in political silence.

ColorOfChange.org is comprised of Black folks from every economic class, as well as those of every color who seek to help our voices be heard. Our members are united behind a simple, powerful pledge: we will do all we can to make sure all Americans are represented, served, and protected - regardless of race or class.








I know what you Negroes are saying...what the fuck does GLAAD and ColorofChange.org have to do with Black Lives Matters? I'm glad (no pun intended) you asked! The answer is: Rashad Robinson.

Who is Rashad Robinson, you ask? Rashad Robinson is a black gay man who was the "Senior Director of Media Programs" at GLAAD for over 6 years until he left to become the "Executive Director" at ColorofChange.org, where currently serves. What was Mr. Robinson's role at GLAAD? I let him tell you himself (with emphasis added):
https://www.linkedin.com/in/rashadrobinson

Senior Director of Media Programs
GLAAD
March 2005 – June 2011 (6 years 4 months)
Rashad serves as Senior Director of Programs at GLAAD where he oversees all of GLAAD's advocacy and programmatic work and serves as producer of the GLAAD Media Awards.

Rashad's work has included expanding GLAAD’s utilization of quantitative and qualitative research to reach the “moveable middle,” or conflicted Americans, on issues critical to advancing LGBT equality. These efforts included partnering with a coalition of organizations and researchers to develop tools for advocates working to communicate with and persuade African American and Latino/a audiences on a range of LGBT rights issues. He has spearheaded the development of GLAAD’s Media Field Strategy division, which has helped build communications infrastructures within movement organizations and provided strategic media support, trainings and message development in over 25 states. The Media Field Strategy team has also supported successful initiatives to change public opinion and policy in states such as California, Iowa, New Hampshire, Connecticut and the District of Columbia. Rashad launched the organization's Religion, Faith and Values Program, which is raising the visibility of LGBT people of faith and counteracting anti-gay activism and cultural inertia that position people of faith and the LGBT community as mutually exclusive and opposing forces. In 2008, he pioneered the organization's work in Digital and Online Media, with the launch of GLAADblog.org and developing movement-wide trainings for advocates and collaborating with colleagues to increase the reach and effectiveness of the organization’s social media presence and networks. In 2010, Rashad was selected by the US State Department's Diplomacy in Action Program to travel to Belgrade, Serbia, to work with activists and journalists on cultural change and media advocacy strategies.





Now for you folks who don't know, all these terms like "utilization of quantitative and qualitative research" and "partnering with a coalition of organizations and researchers to develop tools for advocates working to communicate with and persuade" and "build communications infrastructures within movement organizations and provided strategic media support, trainings and message development" are really just euphemisms for COUNTERINTELLIGENCE.

You call bullshit? Well, did you notice this little tidbit at the end of Mr. Rashad Robinson's own outline of his work at GLAAD:
"In 2010, Rashad was selected by the US State Department's Diplomacy in Action Program to travel to Belgrade, Serbia, to work with activists and journalists on cultural change and media advocacy strategies."





Ask yourself, how does one learn counterintelligence? Right. You have to be trained by an entity with the knowledge and resources to train individuals in that area--like the U.S. State Department. Do you really believe the U.S. State department just magically learned of Rashad Robinson and sought to use his talents in Serbia? Of course not, he was called by his handlers to do what he was trained to do.

Oh, and by the way, guess who was Secretary of State (the head of the U.S. State Department) in 2010? Hilary Rodham Clinton! But, I'm not done, yet. We still have not connected Rashad Robinson to Black Lives Matter. Let's do that.


Guess who helps Black Lives Matter organize online and get funding and infrastructure support from major White Progressive and Democrat Party donors and donor organizations? Correctomundo! It's Rashad Robinson's ColorofChange.org. Here's the Politico article from 11/13/15:
http://www.politico.com/story/2015/11/major-donors-consider-funding-black-lives-matter-215814

Major donors consider funding Black Lives Matter
Activists for the protest movement are meeting in secret with liberal funder club.

By Kenneth P. Vogel and Sarah Wheaton

11/13/15 05:11 AM EST

Neal Blair wears a hoodie that reads "Black Lives Matter" as he stands on the lawn of the Capitol during a rally to mark the 20th anniversary of the Million Man March on Oct. 10, 2015, in Washington. | AP Photo | AP Photo



Some of the biggest donors on the left plan to meet behind closed doors next week in Washington with leaders of the Black Lives Matter movement and their allies to discuss funding the burgeoning protest movement, POLITICO has learned.

The meetings are taking place at the annual winter gathering of the Democracy Alliance major liberal donor club, which runs from Tuesday evening through Saturday morning and is expected to draw Democratic financial heavyweights, including Tom Steyer and Paul Egerman.


The DA, as the club is known in Democratic circles, is recommending its donors step up check writing to a handful of endorsed groups that have supported the Black Lives Matter movement. And the club and some of its members also are considering ways to funnel support directly to scrappier local groups that have utilized confrontational tactics to inject their grievances into the political debate.

It’s a potential partnership that could elevate the Black Lives Matter movement and heighten its impact. But it’s also fraught with tension on both sides, sources tell POLITICO.

The various outfits that comprise the diffuse Black Lives Matter movement prize their independence. Some make a point of not asking for donations. They bristle at any suggestion that they’re susceptible to being co-opted by a deep-pocketed national group ― let alone one with such close ties to the Democratic Party establishment like the Democracy Alliance.

And some major liberal donors are leery about funding a movement known for aggressive tactics ― particularly one that has shown a willingness to train its fire on Democrats, including presidential candidates Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders.

“Major donors are usually not as radical or confrontational as activists most in touch with the pain of oppression,” said Steve Phillips, a Democracy Alliance member and significant contributor to Democratic candidates and causes. He donated to a St. Louis nonprofit group called the Organization for Black Struggle that helped organize 2014 Black Lives Matter-related protests in Ferguson, Missouri, over the police killing of a black teenager named Michael Brown. And Phillips and his wife, Democracy Alliance board member Susan Sandler, are in discussions about funding other groups involved in the movement.

The movement needs cash to build a self-sustaining infrastructure, Phillips said, arguing “the progressive donor world should be adding zeroes to their contributions that support this transformative movement.” But he also acknowledged there’s a risk for recipient groups. “Tactics such as shutting down freeways and disrupting rallies can alienate major donors, and if that's your primary source of support, then you're at risk of being blocked from doing what you need to do.”

The Democracy Alliance was created in 2005 by a handful of major donors, including billionaire financier George Soros and Taco Bell heir Rob McKay to build a permanent infrastructure to advance liberal ideas and causes. Donors are required to donate at least $200,000 a year to recommended groups, and their combined donations to those groups now total more than $500 million. Endorsed beneficiaries include the Center for American Progress think tank, the liberal attack dog Media Matters and the Democratic data firm Catalist, though members also give heavily to Democratic politicians and super PACs that are not part of the DA’s core portfolio. While the Democracy Alliance last year voted to endorse a handful of groups focused on engaging African-Americans in politics ― some of which have helped facilitate the Black Lives movement ― the invitation to movement leaders is a first for the DA, and seems likely to test some members’ comfort zones.

“Movements that are challenging the status quo and that do so to some extent by using direct action or disruptive tactics are meant to make people uncomfortable, so I’m sure we have partners who would be made uncomfortable by it or think that that’s not a good tactic,” said DA President Gara LaMarche. “But we have a wide range of human beings and different temperaments and approaches in the DA, so it’s quite possible that there are people who are a little concerned, as well as people who are curious or are supportive. This is a chance for them to meet some of the leaders of the Black Lives Matter movement, and understand the movement better, and then we’ll take stock of that and see where it might lead.”

According to a Democracy Alliance draft agenda obtained by POLITICO, movement leaders will be featured guests at a Tuesday dinner with major donors. The dinner, which technically precedes the official conference kickoff, will focus on “what kind of support and resources are needed from the allied funders during this critical moment of immediate struggle and long-term movement building.”

The groups that will be represented include the Black Youth Project 100, The Center for Popular Democracy and the Black Civic Engagement Fund, according to the organizer, a DA member named Leah Hunt-Hendrix. An heir to a Texas oil fortune, Hunt-Hendrix helps lead a coalition of mostly young donors called Solidaire that focuses on movement building. It’s donated more than $200,000 to the Black Lives Matter movement since Brown’s killing. According to its entry on a philanthropy website, more than $61,000 went directly to organizers and organizations on the ground in Ferguson and Baltimore, where the death of Freddie Gray in police custody in April sparked a more recent wave of Black Lives-related protests. An additional $115,000 went to groups that have sprung up to support the movement.

She said her goal at the Democracy Alliance is to persuade donors to “use some of the money that’s going into the presidential races for grass-roots organizing and movement building.” And she brushed aside concerns that the movement could hurt Democratic chances in 2016. “Black Lives Matter has been pushing Bernie, and Bernie has been pushing Hillary. Politics is a field where you almost have to push your allies hardest and hold them accountable,” she said. “That’s exactly the point of democracy,” she said.


That view dovetails with the one that LaMarche has tried to instill in the Democracy Alliance, which had faced internal criticism in 2012 for growing too close to the Democratic Party.

In fact, one group set to participate in Hunt-Hendrix’s dinner ― Black Civic Engagement Fund ― is a Democracy Alliance offshoot. And, according to the DA agenda, two other groups recommended for club funding ― ColorOfChange.org and the Advancement Project ― are set to participate in a Friday panel “on how to connect the Movement for Black Lives with current and needed infrastructure for Black organizing and political power.”


ColorOfChange.org has helped Black Lives Matter protesters organize online, said its Executive Director Rashad Robinson. He dismissed concerns that the movement is compromised in any way by accepting support from major institutional funders. “Throughout our history in this country, there have been allies who have been willing to stand up and support uprisings, and lend their resources to ensure that people have a greater voice in their democracy,” Robinson said.

Nick Rathod, the leader of a DA-endorsed group called the State Innovation Exchange that pushes liberal policies in the states, said his group is looking for opportunities to help the movement, as well. “We can play an important role in facilitating dialogue between elected officials and movement leaders in cities and states,” he said. But Rathod cautioned that it would be a mistake for major liberal donors to only give through established national groups to support the movement. “I think for many of the donors, it might feel safer to invest in groups like ours and others to support the work, but frankly, many of those groups are not led by African-Americans and are removed from what’s happening on the ground. The heart and soul of the movement is at the grass roots, it’s where the organizing has occurred, it’s where decisions should be made and it’s where investments should be placed to grow the movement from the bottom up, rather than the top down.”





So...we have Gay and White Progressive Community organizations targeting the Black Community with fake black Civil Rights groups--like Black Lives Matter, led by black LBTQ's trained by both in counterintelligence, that are really there to accomplish their strategic goal to pacify our community to be more accepting of their agendas and to support the Democrat Party, not to bring about real Black Empowerment.

The Black Community is in the grasps of a major counterintelligence onslaught and the majority of us have no idea how we're being played. I am not suggesting the we hate our black LGBTQ sisters and brothers, not at all. What I am saying that our community has too many real problems we need to address to be led by groups that, at the end of the day, are not really about Black Empowerment.

I think we all should pissed off and angry that the Gay & White Progressive Community is exploiting our deaths, poverty, and economic disenfranchisement due to systematic White Supremacy to advance their own agenda. And, I have nothing but contempt for any blacks--regardless of their sexual preference--who ally themselves with any agendas that are not toward bringing about Black Empowerment.

The great fallacy of "intersectionality" is the problem of divided allegiance. Anyone who says they're an "intersectionalist" is telling you that they are double-agents, only loyal to their own personal gratification. Black folks use to understand the danger of having black folks around us who claimed to be something other than Black. Now here we go again with this neo-other crap called "intersectionality".

But, in the end, it's just another attempt (see mulatto, quadroon, octaroon, mixed, Latin, etc) by some Blacks to escape or lessen the impact of White Supremacy upon themselves (becoming something less threatening)--by allying themselves with White Supremacy.

 

[Mr. Bizkits]

Just take into consideration, if BLM was dismantled by the end of this very hour, WE STILL HAVE THE ISSUE OF REPLACING WHITE SUPREMACY WITH A SYSTEM OF JUSTICE.

All of this back & forth is just a waste of time and energy. BLM is not the problem. White Supremacy has always been the current problem for over 500 yrs.

 

[respiration]

Just take into consideration, if BLM was dismantled by the end of this very hour, WE STILL HAVE THE ISSUE OF REPLACING WHITE SUPREMACY WITH A SYSTEM OF JUSTICE.

All of this back & forth is just a waste of time and energy. BLM is not the problem. White Supremacy has always been the current problem for over 500 yrs.

Correct.

 

[respiration]

Thanks, but I hate that I am right too because I do not like to see my People duped into being mules for the Gay & White Progressive Community agendas. And for the benefit of them who still do not believe...here's some more evidence that Black Lives Matter is nothing but a marketing tactic/propaganda to pacify the Black Community toward LGBTQ's and the Democrat Party, not Black Empowerment.

Let's continue to connect the dots, shall we:

There's an organization called GLAAD--the Gay & Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation. This is the mission of GLAAD from its own website with the emphasis on the key points the Black Community needs to be aware of:
http://www.glaad.org/about

About GLAAD

Leading the conversation. Shaping the media narrative. Changing the culture. That's GLAAD at work.

Our areas of expertise
News Media

GLAAD works with print, broadcast and online news sources to bring people powerful stories from the LGBT community that build support for equality. And when news outlets get it wrong, GLAAD is there to respond and advocate for fairness and accuracy.

Entertainment Media

GLAAD brings LGBT characters and plotlines to movie theaters, television sets and even comic books -- working with writers, producers and studios to ensure accurate and diverse representations of LGBT people on the big and small screens.

Spanish-language and Latino media

GLAAD works to share stories from the LGBT community in Spanish-language and Latino media, helping to increase understanding and support among the Spanish-speaking community, the fastest-growing population in the country.

Communications & Digital strategy

GLAAD serves as the communications epicenter of the LGBT movement, equipping advocacy leaders with the tools they need to communicate more effectively. GLAAD is also reinventing the way social media moves equality forward.


It's personal
GLAAD rewrites the script for LGBT acceptance. As a dynamic media force, GLAAD tackles tough issues to shape the narrative and provoke dialogue that leads to cultural change. GLAAD protects all that has been accomplished and creates a world where everyone can live the life they love.







Now...there's another organization called "ColorofChange.org". Here is their mission from their own website (with emphasis added):

What Is ColorOfChange.org?


ColorOfChange.org exists to strengthen Black America's political voice. Our goal is to empower our members - Black Americans and our allies - to make government more responsive to the concerns of Black Americans and to bring about positive political and social change for everyone.


We were heart-broken and outraged by the catastrophe that followed Hurricane Katrina. And we were devastated to realize that no African-American organization or coalition had the capacity to respond on the necessary scale.

Hurricane Katrina made it clear that our lack of a political voice has life-and-death consequences. With no one to speak for them, hundreds of thousands of people - largely Black, poor, and elderly - were left behind to die. But it wasn't just Black folks. Poor, sick, and elderly people of every color were abandoned too. We are not alone, and when we work to protect Black lives and interests, we do the same for all who have been left behind in political silence.

ColorOfChange.org is comprised of Black folks from every economic class, as well as those of every color who seek to help our voices be heard. Our members are united behind a simple, powerful pledge: we will do all we can to make sure all Americans are represented, served, and protected - regardless of race or class.








I know what you Negroes are saying...what the fuck does GLAAD and ColorofChange.org have to do with Black Lives Matters? I'm glad (no pun intended) you asked! The answer is: Rashad Robinson.

Who is Rashad Robinson, you ask? Rashad Robinson is a black gay man who was the "Senior Director of Media Programs" at GLAAD for over 6 years until he left to become the "Executive Director" at ColorofChange.org, where currently serves. What was Mr. Robinson's role at GLAAD? I let him tell you himself (with emphasis added):
https://www.linkedin.com/in/rashadrobinson

Senior Director of Media Programs
GLAAD
March 2005 – June 2011 (6 years 4 months)
Rashad serves as Senior Director of Programs at GLAAD where he oversees all of GLAAD's advocacy and programmatic work and serves as producer of the GLAAD Media Awards.

Rashad's work has included expanding GLAAD’s utilization of quantitative and qualitative research to reach the “moveable middle,” or conflicted Americans, on issues critical to advancing LGBT equality. These efforts included partnering with a coalition of organizations and researchers to develop tools for advocates working to communicate with and persuade African American and Latino/a audiences on a range of LGBT rights issues. He has spearheaded the development of GLAAD’s Media Field Strategy division, which has helped build communications infrastructures within movement organizations and provided strategic media support, trainings and message development in over 25 states. The Media Field Strategy team has also supported successful initiatives to change public opinion and policy in states such as California, Iowa, New Hampshire, Connecticut and the District of Columbia. Rashad launched the organization's Religion, Faith and Values Program, which is raising the visibility of LGBT people of faith and counteracting anti-gay activism and cultural inertia that position people of faith and the LGBT community as mutually exclusive and opposing forces. In 2008, he pioneered the organization's work in Digital and Online Media, with the launch of GLAADblog.org and developing movement-wide trainings for advocates and collaborating with colleagues to increase the reach and effectiveness of the organization’s social media presence and networks. In 2010, Rashad was selected by the US State Department's Diplomacy in Action Program to travel to Belgrade, Serbia, to work with activists and journalists on cultural change and media advocacy strategies.





Now for you folks who don't know, all these terms like "utilization of quantitative and qualitative research" and "partnering with a coalition of organizations and researchers to develop tools for advocates working to communicate with and persuade" and "build communications infrastructures within movement organizations and provided strategic media support, trainings and message development" are really just euphemisms for COUNTERINTELLIGENCE.

You call bullshit? Well, did you notice this little tidbit at the end of Mr. Rashad Robinson's own outline of his work at GLAAD:
"In 2010, Rashad was selected by the US State Department's Diplomacy in Action Program to travel to Belgrade, Serbia, to work with activists and journalists on cultural change and media advocacy strategies."





Ask yourself, how does one learn counterintelligence? Right. You have to be trained by an entity with the knowledge and resources to train individuals in that area--like the U.S. State Department. Do you really believe the U.S. State department just magically learned of Rashad Robinson and sought to use his talents in Serbia? Of course not, he was called by his handlers to do what he was trained to do.

Oh, and by the way, guess who was Secretary of State (the head of the U.S. State Department) in 2010? Hilary Rodham Clinton! But, I'm not done, yet. We still have not connected Rashad Robinson to Black Lives Matter. Let's do that.


Guess who helps Black Lives Matter organize online and get funding and infrastructure support from major White Progressive and Democrat Party donors and donor organizations? Correctomundo! It's Rashad Robinson's ColorofChange.org. Here's the Politico article from 11/13/15:
http://www.politico.com/story/2015/11/major-donors-consider-funding-black-lives-matter-215814

Major donors consider funding Black Lives Matter
Activists for the protest movement are meeting in secret with liberal funder club.

By Kenneth P. Vogel and Sarah Wheaton

11/13/15 05:11 AM EST

Neal Blair wears a hoodie that reads "Black Lives Matter" as he stands on the lawn of the Capitol during a rally to mark the 20th anniversary of the Million Man March on Oct. 10, 2015, in Washington. | AP Photo | AP Photo



Some of the biggest donors on the left plan to meet behind closed doors next week in Washington with leaders of the Black Lives Matter movement and their allies to discuss funding the burgeoning protest movement, POLITICO has learned.

The meetings are taking place at the annual winter gathering of the Democracy Alliance major liberal donor club, which runs from Tuesday evening through Saturday morning and is expected to draw Democratic financial heavyweights, including Tom Steyer and Paul Egerman.


The DA, as the club is known in Democratic circles, is recommending its donors step up check writing to a handful of endorsed groups that have supported the Black Lives Matter movement. And the club and some of its members also are considering ways to funnel support directly to scrappier local groups that have utilized confrontational tactics to inject their grievances into the political debate.

It’s a potential partnership that could elevate the Black Lives Matter movement and heighten its impact. But it’s also fraught with tension on both sides, sources tell POLITICO.

The various outfits that comprise the diffuse Black Lives Matter movement prize their independence. Some make a point of not asking for donations. They bristle at any suggestion that they’re susceptible to being co-opted by a deep-pocketed national group ― let alone one with such close ties to the Democratic Party establishment like the Democracy Alliance.

And some major liberal donors are leery about funding a movement known for aggressive tactics ― particularly one that has shown a willingness to train its fire on Democrats, including presidential candidates Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders.

“Major donors are usually not as radical or confrontational as activists most in touch with the pain of oppression,” said Steve Phillips, a Democracy Alliance member and significant contributor to Democratic candidates and causes. He donated to a St. Louis nonprofit group called the Organization for Black Struggle that helped organize 2014 Black Lives Matter-related protests in Ferguson, Missouri, over the police killing of a black teenager named Michael Brown. And Phillips and his wife, Democracy Alliance board member Susan Sandler, are in discussions about funding other groups involved in the movement.

The movement needs cash to build a self-sustaining infrastructure, Phillips said, arguing “the progressive donor world should be adding zeroes to their contributions that support this transformative movement.” But he also acknowledged there’s a risk for recipient groups. “Tactics such as shutting down freeways and disrupting rallies can alienate major donors, and if that's your primary source of support, then you're at risk of being blocked from doing what you need to do.”

The Democracy Alliance was created in 2005 by a handful of major donors, including billionaire financier George Soros and Taco Bell heir Rob McKay to build a permanent infrastructure to advance liberal ideas and causes. Donors are required to donate at least $200,000 a year to recommended groups, and their combined donations to those groups now total more than $500 million. Endorsed beneficiaries include the Center for American Progress think tank, the liberal attack dog Media Matters and the Democratic data firm Catalist, though members also give heavily to Democratic politicians and super PACs that are not part of the DA’s core portfolio. While the Democracy Alliance last year voted to endorse a handful of groups focused on engaging African-Americans in politics ― some of which have helped facilitate the Black Lives movement ― the invitation to movement leaders is a first for the DA, and seems likely to test some members’ comfort zones.

“Movements that are challenging the status quo and that do so to some extent by using direct action or disruptive tactics are meant to make people uncomfortable, so I’m sure we have partners who would be made uncomfortable by it or think that that’s not a good tactic,” said DA President Gara LaMarche. “But we have a wide range of human beings and different temperaments and approaches in the DA, so it’s quite possible that there are people who are a little concerned, as well as people who are curious or are supportive. This is a chance for them to meet some of the leaders of the Black Lives Matter movement, and understand the movement better, and then we’ll take stock of that and see where it might lead.”

According to a Democracy Alliance draft agenda obtained by POLITICO, movement leaders will be featured guests at a Tuesday dinner with major donors. The dinner, which technically precedes the official conference kickoff, will focus on “what kind of support and resources are needed from the allied funders during this critical moment of immediate struggle and long-term movement building.”

The groups that will be represented include the Black Youth Project 100, The Center for Popular Democracy and the Black Civic Engagement Fund, according to the organizer, a DA member named Leah Hunt-Hendrix. An heir to a Texas oil fortune, Hunt-Hendrix helps lead a coalition of mostly young donors called Solidaire that focuses on movement building. It’s donated more than $200,000 to the Black Lives Matter movement since Brown’s killing. According to its entry on a philanthropy website, more than $61,000 went directly to organizers and organizations on the ground in Ferguson and Baltimore, where the death of Freddie Gray in police custody in April sparked a more recent wave of Black Lives-related protests. An additional $115,000 went to groups that have sprung up to support the movement.

She said her goal at the Democracy Alliance is to persuade donors to “use some of the money that’s going into the presidential races for grass-roots organizing and movement building.” And she brushed aside concerns that the movement could hurt Democratic chances in 2016. “Black Lives Matter has been pushing Bernie, and Bernie has been pushing Hillary. Politics is a field where you almost have to push your allies hardest and hold them accountable,” she said. “That’s exactly the point of democracy,” she said.


That view dovetails with the one that LaMarche has tried to instill in the Democracy Alliance, which had faced internal criticism in 2012 for growing too close to the Democratic Party.

In fact, one group set to participate in Hunt-Hendrix’s dinner ― Black Civic Engagement Fund ― is a Democracy Alliance offshoot. And, according to the DA agenda, two other groups recommended for club funding ― ColorOfChange.org and the Advancement Project ― are set to participate in a Friday panel “on how to connect the Movement for Black Lives with current and needed infrastructure for Black organizing and political power.”


ColorOfChange.org has helped Black Lives Matter protesters organize online, said its Executive Director Rashad Robinson. He dismissed concerns that the movement is compromised in any way by accepting support from major institutional funders. “Throughout our history in this country, there have been allies who have been willing to stand up and support uprisings, and lend their resources to ensure that people have a greater voice in their democracy,” Robinson said.

Nick Rathod, the leader of a DA-endorsed group called the State Innovation Exchange that pushes liberal policies in the states, said his group is looking for opportunities to help the movement, as well. “We can play an important role in facilitating dialogue between elected officials and movement leaders in cities and states,” he said. But Rathod cautioned that it would be a mistake for major liberal donors to only give through established national groups to support the movement. “I think for many of the donors, it might feel safer to invest in groups like ours and others to support the work, but frankly, many of those groups are not led by African-Americans and are removed from what’s happening on the ground. The heart and soul of the movement is at the grass roots, it’s where the organizing has occurred, it’s where decisions should be made and it’s where investments should be placed to grow the movement from the bottom up, rather than the top down.”





So...we have Gay and White Progressive Community organizations targeting the Black Community with fake black Civil Rights groups--like Black Lives Matter, led by black LBTQ's trained by both in counterintelligence, that are really there to accomplish their strategic goal to pacify our community to be more accepting of their agendas and to support the Democrat Party, not to bring about real Black Empowerment.

The Black Community is in the grasps of a major counterintelligence onslaught and the majority of us have no idea how we're being played. I am not suggesting the we hate our black LGBTQ sisters and brothers, not at all. What I am saying that our community has too many real problems we need to address to be led by groups that, at the end of the day, are not really about Black Empowerment.

I think we all should pissed off and angry that the Gay & White Progressive Community is exploiting our deaths, poverty, and economic disenfranchisement due to systematic White Supremacy to advance their own agenda. And, I have nothing but contempt for any blacks--regardless of their sexual preference--who ally themselves with any agendas that are not toward bringing about Black Empowerment.

The great fallacy of "intersectionality" is the problem of divided allegiance. Anyone who says they're an "intersectionalist" is telling you that they are double-agents, only loyal to their own personal gratification. Black folks use to understand the danger of having black folks around us who claimed to be something other than Black. Now here we go again with this neo-other crap called "intersectionality".

But, in the end, it's just another attempt (see mulatto, quadroon, octaroon, mixed, Latin, etc) by some Blacks to escape or lessen the impact of White Supremacy upon themselves (becoming something less threatening)--by allying themselves with White Supremacy.

bookmarked

 

[Fred Sanford]

Just take into consideration, if BLM was dismantled by the end of this very hour, WE STILL HAVE THE ISSUE OF REPLACING WHITE SUPREMACY WITH A SYSTEM OF JUSTICE.

All of this back & forth is just a waste of time and energy. BLM is not the problem. White Supremacy has always been the current problem for over 500 yrs.

How do you defeat White Supremacy with more White Supremacy?

 

[Mello Mello]

@ Rashad Robinson. These motha fuckas! The U.S. Gov has not stopped trying to destabilize the black community.

 

[Mello Mello]

Just take into consideration, if BLM was dismantled by the end of this very hour, WE STILL HAVE THE ISSUE OF REPLACING WHITE SUPREMACY WITH A SYSTEM OF JUSTICE.

All of this back & forth is just a waste of time and energy. BLM is not the problem. White Supremacy has always been the current problem for over 500 yrs.

But that's the whole point of these articles. These articles are pointing out that BLM as an organization is linked to WS.

It's just using a black face to further it's agenda.

It's going to take a group of right thinking black people with no other agenda but to replace r/WS with a system of justice. Anything else is futile.

If we can't do that without trying to insert some side agenda a top it. Then expect to remain under r/WS a bit longer.

BLM is about gay black people waving their gay pride flag showing their superiority. I guess it's similar to how black people want to be recognized for their contributions to society. My only gripe is the exploitation of black people once again only to further their true agenda.

Black people have a long way to go, and sadly I don't expect to see it change much during my lifetime cuz I think we are quite comfortable with the way things are now.

r/WS may fade numerically but they will only consolidate their power at the top even more.

We'll just end up looking like one of these South American or Caribbean countries with majority black and brown population with a minority of white leadership at the top.

I wanna be wrong tho.

 

[respiration]

Black Lives Matter movement sees series of victories in midwest elections
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...s-matter-movement-midwest-elections-victories

The protest movement that formed in response to deadly shootings of African Americans saw oustings of prosecutors in Chicago and Cleveland on Wednesday.

The protest movement that formed in response to deadly shootings of African Americans by police won a remarkable series of political victories in the American midwest on Wednesday night, including its first oustings of prosecutors in major cities.

In successive upsets, Democratic primary challengers in Chicago, Illinois, and Cleveland, Ohio, wrested the party’s nomination from sitting prosecutors who came under sharp criticism for their handling of the fatal shootings of Laquan McDonald and Tamir Rice.

The electoral wins were declared just hours after the town of Ferguson, Missouri – where nights of unrest followed the killing of a black 18-year-old by a white officer in August 2014 – buckled under pressure to accept federal oversight of its criminal justice system.

With 96% of votes counted in Cook County, Illinois, challenger Kim Foxx was trouncing the two-term state’s attorney, Anita Alvarez, by almost 30 percentage points. “The stakes in this race were very high,” Foxx, an African American former prosecutor, told a victory rally. “This race is not so much about saying goodbye. It’s about turning the page.”

Alvarez was targeted by demonstrators after the emergence last November of video footage showing Laquan, 17, being shot 13 times by Chicago police officer Jason Van Dyke while walking away from a confrontation in 2014. Despite Alvarez bringing murder charges against Van Dyke, she angered protesters by waiting more than a year to act while city authorities fought to prevent the release of the dashcam recording to the public.

The win by Foxx, who pledged on Wednesday to repair what she called the county’s “broken criminal justice system”, was celebrated by activists who campaigned against Alvarez intensely, some organising on social media under the hashtag #ByeAnita.

Rashad Robinson, the executive director of Color Of Change, said Alvarez’s departure promised to halt “nearly a decade of corruption and over-prosecution in our communities”. In a statement, Assata’s Daughters, a campaign group made up of black women and girls, declared: “Chicago Black youth have kicked Anita Alvarez out of office.”

In Ohio, meanwhile, Cuyahoga County prosecuting attorney Timothy McGinty was unseated by Michael O’Malley, a former deputy county prosecutor. O’Malley, currently the safety director for the city of Parma, led McGinty by almost 10 percentage points with 95% of precincts reporting.

McGinty last year led a contentious and drawn-out grand jury inquiry into the fatal police shooting of Tamir Rice, a 12-year-old African American boy who was playing with a toy gun in a park in November 2014. In December last year, McGinty announced that no charges would be brought against Cleveland police officer Timothy Loehmann, who shot Tamir within seconds of arriving at the scene in response to a 911 call.

Tamir’s family and protesters expressed disgust over the handling of the case by McGinty, who confirmed in December that he had personally recommended to the grand jurors that they not prosecute the officers involved. Throughout the inquiry, McGinty steadily released information that cast the officers in a favourable light, including reports he had commissioned by private consultants that made questionable claims about Rice’s conduct in his final moments.

O’Malley said on Wednesday that he would work to “restore some type of confidence” to the office, according to Cleveland’s Fox 8 News. “I truly believe that over the last three or four weeks people started hearing the message that my campaign team was putting forth, and it was that this county needs to rebuild confidence in the criminal justice system and they need an individual who is willing to work to do that,” O’Malley said.

Earlier in the evening, city councillors in Ferguson had voted unanimously to approve the so-called “consent decree” pushed on them by the US Justice Department following a scathing report that alleged systematic racism in the St Louis suburb’s policing and courts system.

The attorney general, Loretta Lynch, filed a civil rights lawsuit against the town last month, when it initially rejected the oversight deal, raising a series of objections. However, councillors and the mayor voted to accept it under pressure from protesters and after assurances from federal officials over how much the oversight process was likely to cost city funds.

“Our number one goal is to not only move the city but the entire region forward,” Mayor James Knowles said in a statement after the decision. “We have heard the concerns of the community and we’re looking forward to working with our citizens.”

Following the vote, Knowles, a part-time leader lambasted by protesters for more than 18 months, was photographed shaking hands with Michael Brown Sr, whose son Michael was fatally shot in August 2014 following a struggle with white Ferguson officer Darren Wilson. A grand jury declined to bring charges against Wilson, sparking further unrest.

 

[Mr. Bizkits]

How do you defeat White Supremacy with more White Supremacy?

I see where you are coming from. I'm still trying to figure out the first step lol.

 

[respiration]

I see where you are coming from. I'm still trying to figure out the first step lol.

The first step is to not get distracted by conspiracy theory bullshit. Second step is look at Black Lives Matters' track record. Actions speak louder than words. Third step is be very wary of the agenda of those who seek to tear down this movement that is actively fighting to bring about a just system of policing and prosecution of criminal, racist officers...Especially if the ones throwing stones aren't out there themselves joining that fight.

 

[King Natty]

Black Lives Matter movement sees series of victories in midwest elections
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...s-matter-movement-midwest-elections-victories

The protest movement that formed in response to deadly shootings of African Americans saw oustings of prosecutors in Chicago and Cleveland on Wednesday.

The protest movement that formed in response to deadly shootings of African Americans by police won a remarkable series of political victories in the American midwest on Wednesday night, including its first oustings of prosecutors in major cities.

In successive upsets, Democratic primary challengers in Chicago, Illinois, and Cleveland, Ohio, wrested the party’s nomination from sitting prosecutors who came under sharp criticism for their handling of the fatal shootings of Laquan McDonald and Tamir Rice.

The electoral wins were declared just hours after the town of Ferguson, Missouri – where nights of unrest followed the killing of a black 18-year-old by a white officer in August 2014 – buckled under pressure to accept federal oversight of its criminal justice system.

With 96% of votes counted in Cook County, Illinois, challenger Kim Foxx was trouncing the two-term state’s attorney, Anita Alvarez, by almost 30 percentage points. “The stakes in this race were very high,” Foxx, an African American former prosecutor, told a victory rally. “This race is not so much about saying goodbye. It’s about turning the page.”

Alvarez was targeted by demonstrators after the emergence last November of video footage showing Laquan, 17, being shot 13 times by Chicago police officer Jason Van Dyke while walking away from a confrontation in 2014. Despite Alvarez bringing murder charges against Van Dyke, she angered protesters by waiting more than a year to act while city authorities fought to prevent the release of the dashcam recording to the public.

The win by Foxx, who pledged on Wednesday to repair what she called the county’s “broken criminal justice system”, was celebrated by activists who campaigned against Alvarez intensely, some organising on social media under the hashtag #ByeAnita.

Rashad Robinson, the executive director of Color Of Change, said Alvarez’s departure promised to halt “nearly a decade of corruption and over-prosecution in our communities”. In a statement, Assata’s Daughters, a campaign group made up of black women and girls, declared: “Chicago Black youth have kicked Anita Alvarez out of office.”

In Ohio, meanwhile, Cuyahoga County prosecuting attorney Timothy McGinty was unseated by Michael O’Malley, a former deputy county prosecutor. O’Malley, currently the safety director for the city of Parma, led McGinty by almost 10 percentage points with 95% of precincts reporting.

McGinty last year led a contentious and drawn-out grand jury inquiry into the fatal police shooting of Tamir Rice, a 12-year-old African American boy who was playing with a toy gun in a park in November 2014. In December last year, McGinty announced that no charges would be brought against Cleveland police officer Timothy Loehmann, who shot Tamir within seconds of arriving at the scene in response to a 911 call.

Tamir’s family and protesters expressed disgust over the handling of the case by McGinty, who confirmed in December that he had personally recommended to the grand jurors that they not prosecute the officers involved. Throughout the inquiry, McGinty steadily released information that cast the officers in a favourable light, including reports he had commissioned by private consultants that made questionable claims about Rice’s conduct in his final moments.

O’Malley said on Wednesday that he would work to “restore some type of confidence” to the office, according to Cleveland’s Fox 8 News. “I truly believe that over the last three or four weeks people started hearing the message that my campaign team was putting forth, and it was that this county needs to rebuild confidence in the criminal justice system and they need an individual who is willing to work to do that,” O’Malley said.

Earlier in the evening, city councillors in Ferguson had voted unanimously to approve the so-called “consent decree” pushed on them by the US Justice Department following a scathing report that alleged systematic racism in the St Louis suburb’s policing and courts system.

The attorney general, Loretta Lynch, filed a civil rights lawsuit against the town last month, when it initially rejected the oversight deal, raising a series of objections. However, councillors and the mayor voted to accept it under pressure from protesters and after assurances from federal officials over how much the oversight process was likely to cost city funds.

“Our number one goal is to not only move the city but the entire region forward,” Mayor James Knowles said in a statement after the decision. “We have heard the concerns of the community and we’re looking forward to working with our citizens.”

Following the vote, Knowles, a part-time leader lambasted by protesters for more than 18 months, was photographed shaking hands with Michael Brown Sr, whose son Michael was fatally shot in August 2014 following a struggle with white Ferguson officer Darren Wilson. A grand jury declined to bring charges against Wilson, sparking further unrest.

I was told that this wasn't BLM

 

[SamSneed]

You know what bgol, y'all mufuccas disgust me sometimes. Like, for real i hate you fuckers on here.

Y'all are ACTUALLY paying this feeble minded asshat of a plant that suddenly showed up in a Donald Trump thread after being here for 8 fuckin years with under 200 posts any attention?

YOU GUYS KNOW HIS FUCKIN AGENDA!!!

and what's worse is this shit happens every 4 years, right on time with the election cycle. Some random fuckin poster pops up telling us blacks what we need to do to be successful in the future and it's the same faux news talking point BULLSHIT that's spewed and regurgitated daily out of the mouths of these dumbass racist faggits that you guys claim you despise!

Fuck you. Fuck you all.

And he still anit ready for our new qb, fish grease already hot ass fuck.

My ninja spi gonna burst into flames

 

[Mr. Bizkits]

The first step is to not get distracted by conspiracy theory bullshit. Second step is look at Black Lives Matters' track record. Actions speak louder than words. Third step is be very wary of the agenda of those who seek to tear down this movement that is actively fighting to bring about a just system of policing and prosecution of criminal, racist officers...Especially if the ones throwing stones aren't out there themselves joining that fight.

What would you say is the third step to dismantling racism/white supremacy?

 

[respiration]

I was told that this wasn't BLM

You were told wrong, fam. Black Lives Matter has kept the issue in the headlines for almost two years. They raised awareness in Chicago of the injustice mentioned in the article. And our struggle here in Chicago became known nationwide. BLM has done the same across the country from NYC to Baltimore to Cleveland. BLM along with other groups - some mentioned in the article - raised awareness and galvanized folks in Chicago to vote that evil bitch Alvarez the fuck out of office.

 

[respiration]

What would you say is the third step to dismantling racism/white supremacy?

Well Bro, in regards to this topic, I already told you my third step. Be wary of the agenda of those who are trying to tear down a movement fighting for justice and safety for us Black folks from police who can murder us and then walk free. Especially be skeptical of those who are not themselves involved in that fight.

 

[mangobob79]

Your OP is a straw man.



So, BLM can actively seek justice for the murders of Black men and boys by police, but since you didn't see Black men and boys mentioned in a guidelines on one of their websites, none of that is relevant. Huh. Never mind that continuously on social media and the news you've seen BLM protesting, disrupting and advocating on behalf of Michael Brown, Eric Garner, Tamir Rice, Freddie Gray, Laquan McDonald, Ronald Johnson. So then what are you on about?



Do you actually somehow feel victimized by BLM?

Not at all. They have been marginalized.



You're actually trying to compare those groups with a grassroots organization who DAILY all around the country is actively fighting against the epidemic of police murders of Black people? What tangible thing did the second Million Man March accomplish toward those goals? C'mon bro. Just because you choose to look away doesn't mean that BLM isn't there.

Influence.
A simple google search yielded the following:
National Action Network: search results = 350,000
Million Man March 2015: search results = 41,000
Black Lives Matter: search results = 9,780,000

...And this group who received almost 10 million hits, specifically dedicates itself to justice for families and reform to the present system of policing.



My bad bro. I was speaking figuratively. Didn't mean that eyesight comment as a personal attack. BLM didn't use that language ("unprecedented and important"). I used it and it is accurate. The people collectively made these things happen in Chicago. You see those are some of the things that people organized can accomplish. Here are others:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...-achieved-in-2015_us_567996bae4b0b958f6583320
http://www.alternet.org/activism/8-...s-matter-movement-most-people-dont-know-about
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/12/black-lives-matter/421839/


You should consider looking into how to utilize your tin foil hat to serve double duty as a solar panel. Help save the planet while cooking up conspiracies! lol



...Because they are only sheep, right? Brother, you don't know what you're talking about. I honestly mean no disrespect on a personal level in saying that. I don't know any other way to put it. You have not been to any planning sessions or taken part in any of their internal discussions to have even an inkling of what they are about, what they plan, what the long game is, etc - nor do you know firsthand what goes on behind the scenes or what challenges they face or about their imminent enemies. The conspiracy is in your imagination.

Clearly you don't keep up with BLM's actions either or else you wouldn't have made this thread. I understand you're wanting to be right, but there is no dignity lost in admitting that you just don't know something.



RE/ your words in bold: What in your assessment constitutes a strong Black man? Taking care of family? Paying bills? Buying Black? Being a responsible man and example of a good leader to the women in your life? All good things. But they are not activism. I also believe in those things you listed, wholeheartedly - especially geared towards Black liberation. I absolutely support those thing because they are absolutely important. It is also true that white supremacy despises and fears Black manhood.

Do you. That which you do in this life that is positive, I would never tear down nor disrespect. When I asked you the question that started your and my dialogue, a number of your answers could have been speaking of me too. The battle for our liberation is multi-tiered. YOU do not have to be on the front lines of the protest movement. As things change for the better, I will receive joy in seeing you and yours benefit from those hard fought gains.

I don't know how old you are, but I would wager that it is younger than me. A word from someone who transitioned from boy to man, many many years ago:
If you have an opportunity to learn something from someone who has "been there", respect the learning opportunity and be open-minded to receive new knowledge and refine and sharpen your worldview. Each day is a new blackboard upon which a new lesson can be outlined.

Dr. King and the SCLC did their thing and Malcolm and the OAAU was beginning to do theirs. Different starting points, different paths but same end destination. There is space for all groups who are sincerely devoted to the liberation of Black folks from the clutches of white supremacy.

As for the part in black, I think that's a strange statement. If it was directed at me, I would first of all say that yes, I have fucked a number of mothers in my time and enjoyed it, so I don't take it as a perjorative. Secondly, as an imperfect person, I cannot judge another's essential worth. All are creations of the Almighty and are loved equally. Whatever I do for this movement, I do because I believe in justice. I do it because I love Black people. Those around me have a similar mindset. It isn't for glory or name recognition or to perceive oneself as better than another.

There is one way I personally benefit though. Before becoming active, I used to hear and watch the news stories of Brothers and Sisters getting murdered by police and experience feelings of despair, powerlessness and unfocused anger at the injustice. Becoming part of the change that I wanted to see, changed my mindset. It gave me hope and sharpened my eyesight to see areas of progress (that the news doesn't cover) and to work with others to bring liberation and justice.

I-Moses ! My brother! I thank you for taking time out of ur life to respond cos I just couldn't anymore, and yes the brother means well but we all can understand his suspicion but we know its unfounded but rightfully based upon historical suspicion even tho we believe him to be wrong or atleast misguided, I salute you king!
Becos truthfully I don't bother engaging in these discussions anymore , these discussions that seem to just prove who is smarter or blacker or more revolutionary, while the real work is going on in the streets, cos no matter what anyone says ,my money and resources are constantly going to the BLM movement, I just don't bother with the street corner philosopher thing anymore. Blessings

 

[respiration]

I-Moses ! My brother! I thank you for taking time out of ur life to respond cos I just couldn't anymore, and yes the brother means well but we all can understand his suspicion but we know its unfounded but rightfully based upon historical suspicion even tho we believe him to be wrong or at least misguided, I salute you king!
Becos truthfully I don't bother engaging in these discussions anymore , these discussions that seem to just prove who is smarter or blacker or more revolutionary, while the real work is going on in the streets, cos no matter what anyone says ,my money and resources are constantly going to the BLM movement, I just don't bother with the street corner philosopher thing anymore. Blessings

Peace and respect, Brother.

The founders of Black Lives Matter are three Black women. As Black women that love Black people, they responded to the call and mobilized people to rise up against this repeated injustice. Too often, we'd hear in the news about different unarmed Black people being violated and murdered with impunity by cops. Too often we would get angry about it, old guard leaders would tell us "be cool and let it go through the justice system." Time and time again we saw how corrupt that so-called justice system is as they repeatedly exonerated murderers with badges. Too often, a few days would go by and that injustice would be all but forgotten as some new unrelated story would dominate the headlines. With Mike Brown, people had enough, and so began this journey. It is on this basis, that I supported BLM.

Out of the three Black women who founded Black Lives Matter - two of them are gay. It should be no wonder that they would seek freedom from abuse and discrimination for gays as well, as that is part of their identity. It would be self-evident that people who have experienced harassment and who have been made to feel outside of the norm - such a people could sympathize with others who are being oppressed. These Sistas are not kids. They are intelligent women in their mid and late thirties who are fully capable of conceiving and acting out an idea without needing some mysterious white puppet master to pull their strings. I'm a Christian and don't believe in gay unions. But I am not involved with BLM for anything having to do with sexual identity. After the second time the Tea Party sent some sold out negro thugs to rallies and they targeted and beat up some of the lesbian protesters, I began to come through in the capacity of security to protect them. And why not? After all, lesbians or not, they were down for the cause of freedom from police murder and oppression against Black folks, just as the heterosexual protesters were.

All the actions and meetings I have attended in my area - I have not personally seen, heard of nor taken part in even one that was geared in any way towards gay liberation or anything like that. They were ALL for freedom from racist police oppression and violence against Black people. This has manifested in teaching seminars, political education, toy and clothing drives for families of the victims, advocacy and support for victims' families, candlelight vigils, legal support and coalescing with other activist groups who supported these projects. The stuff you see on the tv, marching, blockading, disrupting, chanting, protesting and shutting down is just the tip of the iceberg. Those things are vitally important, but so much more goes on behind the scenes - that never makes the headlines.

The beautiful thing about this modern day civil rights movement headed by Black Lives Matter is that it has mobilized others to follow suit... like the students in Mizzou, the Muslims and Latinos at the failed Trump rally in Chicago and the Latinos in Arizona blocking the roadways. This is exactly what this country needs. It's what gets things done. Those put in charge, politically MUST be pushed by the people to give us what we need. It is as it should be.

 

[Fred Sanford]

You know, it is amazing to me how people can ask us to ignore the "guiding principles" and other mission statements of Black Lives Matter which clearly demonstrate that its values and goals are in direct opposition to the values and goals that will bring about Black Empowerment.

Instead we are asked to have blind faith in Black Lives Matter and rely upon biased personal testimonials about what goes on in their meetings, self-attributed claims by BLM of their successes (though at best they were one of many groups involved), and statistics about BLM's name recognition and web hits--even though that only really speaks to the success of Black Lives Matter as a brand, not as a black civil rights group.

I ask the Black Lives Matter supporters to answer the following questions:

• Do you believe that Demilitarizing Police , LBGTQ equality & acceptance, voting Democrats into office, protesting Donald Trump campaign rallies, electing Hilary Clinton, Bernie Sanders, or Trump are the most important keys to success for the Black Community in America?

• Do Black males in America makeup about 48% of the Black population?

• Do Black males in America makeup the vast majority (more than triple) of homicide victims in the Black Community, whether at the hands of police or civilians?

• Do young Black males (18-35) in America have higher unemployment, lower graduation rates, less access to healthcare and higher incarceration rates than ANY other racial, age and gender groups in the U.S.?

• Do Black males in America makeup less than 35% of heads of households in the Black Community?

• Do you believe that Black fathers are the most maligned and negatively stereotyped parents in America?

• Do you believe White Supremacy exists and is a major obstacle to success in the Black Community?

• Do you believe that the greatest target of White Supremacy has been the Black male?

• Do you believe that the Black Community will be more successful by focusing on strengthening Black males over Demilitarizing Police , LBGTQ equality & acceptance, voting Democrats into office, protesting Donald Trump campaign rallies, electing Hilary Clinton, Bernie Sanders, or Trump?

• Do you believe that the Black Community will be more successful by focusing on dramatically increasing the number of households headed by Black males over Demilitarizing Police , LBGTQ equality & acceptance, voting Democrats into office, protesting Donald Trump campaign rallies, electing Hilary Clinton, Bernie Sanders, or Trump?

• Do you believe that the Black Community will be more successful by focusing on Black Economic Empowerment (meaning Blacks controlling the economics within their own community) over Demilitarizing Police , LBGTQ equality & acceptance, voting Democrats into office, protesting Donald Trump campaign rallies, electing Hilary Clinton, Bernie Sanders, or Trump?

• Did I post both the "guiding principles" and common misconceptions statements of Black Lives Matter in their entirety?

• Does Black Lives Matter's "guiding principles" and common misconceptions statements mention helping LBGTQ people, women, children, and seniors?

• Does Black Lives Matter's "guiding principles" and common misconceptions statements mention Black males and fathers--except as adjectives or contrasts or when referencing the deaths of Trayvon, Mike, or Eric?

• Does Black Lives Matter's "guiding principles" and common misconceptions statements mention Black Economic Empowerment?

• Finally, tell me, how the hell is Black Lives Matter going to empower the Black Community without strengthening our Males, returning to majority patriarchal family units, and increasing our Economic Empowerment just as every successful people in the ENTIRE human history have done?

 

[respiration]

You know, it is amazing to me how people can ask us to ignore the "guiding principles" and other mission statements of Black Lives Matter which clearly demonstrate that its values and goals are in direct opposition to the values and goals that will bring about Black Empowerment.

Instead we are asked to have blind faith in Black Lives Matter and rely upon biased personal testimonials about what goes on in their meetings, self-attributed claims by BLM of their successes (though at best they were one of many groups involved), and statistics about BLM's name recognition and web hits--even though that only really speaks to the success of Black Lives Matter as a brand, not as a black civil rights group.

I ask the Black Lives Matter supporters to answer the following questions:

• Do you believe that Demilitarizing Police , LBGTQ equality & acceptance, voting Democrats into office, protesting Donald Trump campaign rallies, electing Hilary Clinton, Bernie Sanders, or Trump are the most important keys to success for the Black Community in America?

• Do Black males in America makeup about 48% of the Black population?

• Do Black males in America makeup the vast majority (more than triple) of homicide victims in the Black Community, whether at the hands of police or civilians?

• Do young Black males (18-35) in America have higher unemployment, lower graduation rates, less access to healthcare and higher incarceration rates than ANY other racial, age and gender groups in the U.S.?

• Do Black males in America makeup less than 35% of heads of households in the Black Community?

• Do you believe that Black fathers are the most maligned and negatively stereotyped parents in America?

• Do you believe White Supremacy exists and is a major obstacle to success in the Black Community?

• Do you believe that the greatest target of White Supremacy has been the Black male?

• Do you believe that the Black Community will be more successful by focusing on strengthening Black males over Demilitarizing Police , LBGTQ equality & acceptance, voting Democrats into office, protesting Donald Trump campaign rallies, electing Hilary Clinton, Bernie Sanders, or Trump?

• Do you believe that the Black Community will be more successful by focusing on dramatically increasing the number of households headed by Black males over Demilitarizing Police , LBGTQ equality & acceptance, voting Democrats into office, protesting Donald Trump campaign rallies, electing Hilary Clinton, Bernie Sanders, or Trump?

• Do you believe that the Black Community will be more successful by focusing on Black Economic Empowerment (meaning Blacks controlling the economics within their own community) over Demilitarizing Police , LBGTQ equality & acceptance, voting Democrats into office, protesting Donald Trump campaign rallies, electing Hilary Clinton, Bernie Sanders, or Trump?

• Did I post both the "guiding principles" and common misconceptions statements of Black Lives Matter in their entirety?

• Does Black Lives Matter's "guiding principles" and common misconceptions statements mention helping LBGTQ people, women, children, and seniors?

• Does Black Lives Matter's "guiding principles" and common misconceptions statements mention Black males and fathers--except as adjectives or contrasts or when referencing the deaths of Trayvon, Mike, or Eric?

• Does Black Lives Matter's "guiding principles" and common misconceptions statements mention Black Economic Empowerment?

• Finally, tell me, how the hell is Black Lives Matter going to empower the Black Community without strengthening our Males, returning to majority patriarchal family units, and increasing our Economic Empowerment just as every successful people in the ENTIRE human history have done?

"We are supposed to...have blind faith in biased personal testimonies"

Oh so I've been lying just to kick it, is that it? YOU can't lay claim to ANY personal testimony from your own experience - because you have none.

And stop being disingenuous trying to claim that BLM takes sole credit for the successes (glad you FINALLY acknowledge them as such). It is well known that BLM works in coordination with a number of other activist groups at their actions. That's consistently been in the media. That's the beautiful thing about them. They have allied with other smaller groups as well as the community itself to effect change. BLM has often referenced these groups and individuals.

You have spent way more time trying to find the "gay" in Black Lives Matter in this thread alone than BLM has spent actually protesting for any gay causes. And your hypersensitivity to BLM not specifically mentioning Black heterosexual males in the "guidelines" you posted - is questionable.

Who are YOU really working for? Who is paying you to undermine this movement and attempt to steer Black men away from participating in it? If someone isn't breaking bread with you to troll, then that makes it even sadder.

You talk as if you think BLM is the Justice League of America and should meet your criteria as legit. Yet you choose not to participate - not to protest demanding the firing of murdering cops, not to help families of victims pay their bills, not to assist victims' families with finding good legal representation or anything else to directly impact these victims' families. Clearly you don't give a shit.

Your words and opinions are featherweight.

 

[mangobob79]

"We are supposed to...have blind faith in biased personal testimonies"

Oh so I've been lying just to kick it, is that it? YOU can't lay claim to ANY personal testimony from your own experience - because you have none.

And stop being disingenuous trying to claim that BLM takes sole credit for the successes (glad you FINALLY acknowledge them as such). It is well known that BLM works in coordination with a number of other activist groups at their actions. That's consistently been in the media. That's the beautiful thing about them. They have allied with other smaller groups as well as the community itself to effect change. BLM has often referenced these groups and individuals.

You have spent way more time trying to find the "gay" in Black Lives Matter in this thread alone than BLM has spent actually protesting for any gay causes. And your hypersensitivity to BLM not specifically mentioning Black heterosexual males in the "guidelines" you posted - is questionable.

Who are YOU really working for? Who is paying you to undermine this movement and attempt to steer Black men away from participating in it? If someone isn't breaking bread with you to troll, then that makes it even sadder.

You talk as if you think BLM is the Justice League of America and should meet your criteria as legit. Yet you choose not to participate - not to protest demanding the firing of murdering cops, not to help families of victims pay their bills, not to assist victims' families with finding good legal representation or anything else to directly impact these victims' families. Clearly you don't give a shit.

Your words and opinions are featherweight.

YOU SAID NOT ONE WORD TOO MUCH!! SALUTE AGAIN KING!

 

[TheFuser]

"We are supposed to...have blind faith in biased personal testimonies"

Oh so I've been lying just to kick it, is that it? YOU can't lay claim to ANY personal testimony from your own experience - because you have none.

And stop being disingenuous trying to claim that BLM takes sole credit for the successes (glad you FINALLY acknowledge them as such). It is well known that BLM works in coordination with a number of other activist groups at their actions. That's consistently been in the media. That's the beautiful thing about them. They have allied with other smaller groups as well as the community itself to effect change. BLM has often referenced these groups and individuals.

You have spent way more time trying to find the "gay" in Black Lives Matter in this thread alone than BLM has spent actually protesting for any gay causes. And your hypersensitivity to BLM not specifically mentioning Black heterosexual males in the "guidelines" you posted - is questionable.

Who are YOU really working for? Who is paying you to undermine this movement and attempt to steer Black men away from participating in it? If someone isn't breaking bread with you to troll, then that makes it even sadder.

You talk as if you think BLM is the Justice League of America and should meet your criteria as legit. Yet you choose not to participate - not to protest demanding the firing of murdering cops, not to help families of victims pay their bills, not to assist victims' families with finding good legal representation or anything else to directly impact these victims' families. Clearly you don't give a shit.

Your words and opinions are featherweight.

 

[Fred Sanford]

"We are supposed to...have blind faith in biased personal testimonies"

Oh so I've been lying just to kick it, is that it? YOU can't lay claim to ANY personal testimony from your own experience - because you have none.

And stop being disingenuous trying to claim that BLM takes sole credit for the successes (glad you FINALLY acknowledge them as such). It is well known that BLM works in coordination with a number of other activist groups at their actions. That's consistently been in the media. That's the beautiful thing about them. They have allied with other smaller groups as well as the community itself to effect change. BLM has often referenced these groups and individuals.

You have spent way more time trying to find the "gay" in Black Lives Matter in this thread alone than BLM has spent actually protesting for any gay causes. And your hypersensitivity to BLM not specifically mentioning Black heterosexual males in the "guidelines" you posted - is questionable.

Who are YOU really working for? Who is paying you to undermine this movement and attempt to steer Black men away from participating in it? If someone isn't breaking bread with you to troll, then that makes it even sadder.

You talk as if you think BLM is the Justice League of America and should meet your criteria as legit. Yet you choose not to participate - not to protest demanding the firing of murdering cops, not to help families of victims pay their bills, not to assist victims' families with finding good legal representation or anything else to directly impact these victims' families. Clearly you don't give a shit.

Your words and opinions are featherweight.

cog·ni·tive dis·so·nance

Psychology

noun: cognitive dissonance


1. the state of having inconsistent thoughts, beliefs, or attitudes, especially as relating to behavioral decisions and attitude change.



DeRay Mckesson of #BlackLivesMatter shares identity and protest with #glaadgala
http://www.glaad.org/tags/blacklivesmatter
November 9, 2015

One of the featured stories at the GLAAD (the Gay & Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation) Gala San Francisco at the Hilton San Francisco Union Square on Saturday was #BlackLivesMatter activist DeRay Mckesson, who talked about his activism, social media, and the intersection of being Black and gay.



The GLAAD Gala San Francisco honors innovators in the Bay Area who advance LGBT acceptance through tech and new media and also funds GLAAD's national advocacy work to rewrite the script to accelerate acceptance. The event also featured a special performance by Grammy Award-nominated recording artist and Selma star Ledisi.







GLAAD All Access: Rashad Robinson [of ColorofChange.org, a group that provides various means of support to Black Lives Matter] on the racial justice and LGBT equality movements.

This week, host Claire Pires sat down with Rashad Robinson, executive director of ColorOfChange.org. ColorOfChange.org is a non-profit organization that aims to strengthen the African American community's political voice. The group has been active most recently with national campaigns for Eric Garner and Michael Brown. As an openly gay man, Robinson sits at the intersection between the racial justice and LGBT movements. He told GLAAD how the two movements can come together in solidarity.
http://www.glaad.org/video/all-access-rashad-robinson-racial-justice-and-lgbt-equality-movements
Watch GLAAD's interview here:



DID YOU HEAR WHAT THE FUCK THEY SAID? I TOLD YOU MOTHERFUCKAS!

 

[Cock Head Jones]

I will ride w/ those lesbians till the wheels fall off because they fight harder for black people than the black men who are supposed to be doing that job. Period.

 

[Fred Sanford]

I will ride w/ those lesbians till the wheels fall off because they fight harder for black people than the black men who are supposed to be doing that job. Period.

I ain't mad at you or anyone else for who they choose to ride with. I'm just informing Black folks (especially heterosexual black males) about where the Black Lives Matter ride is really taking you--and it ain't where they say they're taking you.

That said....ride on Playa!

 

[Fred Sanford]

Tariq Nasheed, producer of the upcoming (May 2016) Hidden Colors 4: The Religion of White Supremacy, speaks on the propaganda tool of the Gay and White Progressive community's known as "Black Lives Matter" and how this brand is really not about dismantling the system of White Supremacy: (skip ahead to the 11:55 mark, if you like)